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I'd suggest track and swimming as two sports to try also. Both are great life-long sports and both are good for reducing anxiety! I was too shy as a child to deal with team sports (I was always sure everyone thought I was terrible at it) but excelled at running and swimming. And now I turn to swimming laps when I need to spend time alone and think about things - too bad my knees don't allow for running anymore!

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> When Dan was participating poorly in soccer and baseball, we didn't

know it was because of his mental disabilities (primarily ADD, I now

think). He would stand there clueless, not a credit to his team at

all.

>

> When we finally figured it out, we encouraged individual rather

than team sports. For example, he loves raquetball. Wasn't too fond

of tennis. I plan to give him golf lessons this summer. We also go

to the gym to work out.

>

> Judy

Interesting, Judy! My (ADHD+mild OCD) son, (17), LOVED

baseball! He was an all-star catcher because that was a GREAT

position for his hyperactivity. When he was placed in the outfield,

he'd pick daisies or blades of grass-- oblivious to anything going

on. He needed more action and involvement, and playing catcher did

the trick! The OCD part of it made him a perfectionist, so he'd

NEVER miss a ball. He was the most outstanding catcher in his

league! It surprised the heck out of all of us, considering that

when he started baseball, he didn't have a prayer because he was so

distracted! Funny how they can hyper-focus on some things, and if

left alone or isolated, can't focus at all.

(10, OCD), on the other hand, tried football---- mistake. He's

built like a linebacker and naturally, all the coaches wanted him on

their teams. Problem is, he may LOOK like a tank, but he's just

a 'softie' - a little teddy bear--WAY too sensitive for football. He

didn't like having to tackle his friends, or his friends tackle him.

He said, 'It hurts my feelings to hurt my friends.' He also hated

the way the coaches PUSH PUSH PUSH and YELL YELL YELL. That created

so much anxiety in an already anxious kid--- it paralyzed him. He

always had that 'doe caught in the headlights' kind of daze on his

face while playing football. :) Oh well... we tried. He LOVES

baseball and is doing GREAT. He hit a homerun tonight, as a matter

of fact! Wow! Dontcha' LOVE it when they get a taste of success? :)

Joni

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Jessie is in track, but her anxiety does affect her performance. In track

meets she is very frightened because she feels that everyone is looking at

her. What I am working on now is relaxation and focusing techniques to

help her not think about what frightens her and focus on the job at

hand. Any suggestions?

Judy <the other one>

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>life-long sports and both are good for reducing anxiety! I was too shy as a

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>swimming laps when I need to spend time alone and think about things - too

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(10) also loves baseball. He plays third base and is the clean-up

batter. It is the one thing at which he feels entirely comfortable.

Tonight's game was the first of the tournament, and they beat the

first-place team 21-9! Let's hear it for those home-run hitters!

hit two homers tonight, too! He is so intensely shy that he doesn't make

a big deal after he rounds the bases. He just tries to duck into the

dugout before his teammates fall all over him.

He wants to play football this fall. He can run and catch, but I'm not

sure how well he will take getting hit. He has some grandiosity, so he

thinks he can outrun everyone and not get tackled. He's skinny (unlike

his mother) so he doesn't have much padding to cushion the blows. We

shall see....

--

Joni wrote:

> Interesting, Judy! My (ADHD+mild OCD) son, (17), LOVED

> baseball! He was an all-star catcher because that was a GREAT

> position for his hyperactivity. When he was placed in the outfield,

> he'd pick daisies or blades of grass-- oblivious to anything going

> on. He needed more action and involvement, and playing catcher did

> the trick! The OCD part of it made him a perfectionist, so he'd

> NEVER miss a ball. He was the most outstanding catcher in his

> league! It surprised the heck out of all of us, considering that

> when he started baseball, he didn't have a prayer because he was so

> distracted! Funny how they can hyper-focus on some things, and if

> left alone or isolated, can't focus at all.

>

> (10, OCD), on the other hand, tried football---- mistake. He's

> built like a linebacker and naturally, all the coaches wanted him on

> their teams. Problem is, he may LOOK like a tank, but he's just

> a 'softie' - a little teddy bear--WAY too sensitive for football. He

> didn't like having to tackle his friends, or his friends tackle him.

> He said, 'It hurts my feelings to hurt my friends.' He also hated

> the way the coaches PUSH PUSH PUSH and YELL YELL YELL. That created

> so much anxiety in an already anxious kid--- it paralyzed him. He

> always had that 'doe caught in the headlights' kind of daze on his

> face while playing football. :) Oh well... we tried. He LOVES

> baseball and is doing GREAT. He hit a homerun tonight, as a matter

> of fact! Wow! Dontcha' LOVE it when they get a taste of success? :)

> Joni

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Hi,

Our whole family participates in martial arts -- tae kwon do, specifically. My 9yo son (suspected OCD) and older daughter (turned 13!! yesterday) are both black belts already. Dad is the instructor, and I (also OCD) participate too (6yo daughter either takes class or plays quietly in back).

Tae kwon do is an individual sport, but you have to work with others as well. I would suggest shopping around and observing classes for a while; find a school that works for you.

Helen

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> (10) also loves baseball. He plays third base and is the clean-

up

> batter. It is the one thing at which he feels entirely comfortable.

> Tonight's game was the first of the tournament, and they beat the

> first-place team 21-9! Let's hear it for those home-run hitters!

> hit two homers tonight, too! He is so intensely shy that he doesn't

make

> a big deal after he rounds the bases. He just tries to duck into the

> dugout before his teammates fall all over him.

>

> He wants to play football this fall. He can run and catch, but I'm

not

> sure how well he will take getting hit. He has some grandiosity, so

he

> thinks he can outrun everyone and not get tackled. He's skinny

(unlike

> his mother) so he doesn't have much padding to cushion the blows. We

> shall see....

>

> --

>

Hey !!

There were PLENTY of small, quiet and SHY boys on 's football

team. In fact, the smaller- the better! Those LITTLE guys can

RUN!! They can slip thru the blockers and out-run the PANTS off the

bigger, slower guys! In fact, many of 's baseball buddies play

football - and do VERY well. 's just too sensitive for

football, unfortunately because I LOVED watching the games. His

sensitivity didn't sit too well w/ the macho coaches who saw this

stocky boy, BUILT for football, but his heart was too big. (can't you

hear them now: 'oh cry me a river!' ) :) They'd yell at him

constantly - expecting him to be macho and TOUGH. Not so! Oh well.

I didn't push it with . When he started complaining and not

wanting to go to the games, I knew it was over. I DID encourage him

to honor his commitment - and finish out the season.

I do have to warn you about football-- the practices start in the

HEAT of the beginning of August- and they practice EVERY SINGLE DAY

OF THE WEEK. It's INTENSE!! They do push-ups, sprints, sit-ups,

crunches, etc... and they don't get down to the business of tackling

and running the ball for about 3 weeks. If can get through this

period of intense training, he's on his way. Many boys dropped out

during this time because it was too much work, too hot, and no fun.

A process of natural selection and 'only the strongest survive' if I

ever saw one! LOL , being the little 'intuitive feeler' that

he is, just hated football! The first season wasn't too bad, but the

following year-- I could barely keep him motivated to show up for the

games. He doesn't have that competitive, KILL THE QUARTERBACK thing

in him! :) Oh well, I can't complain about the lack of 'killer

instinct!' :)

We're going to try MUSIC over the summer. I think he's going to be

like his dad with his musical abilities. His dad is a drummer, loves

to write music and listen to it (and so do I), so I'm taking him to a

music store over the summer and let him pick out an instrument. My

husband hopes he'll choose the drums, but he knows better than to

project HIS dreams onto his kids (did that to who played the

drums - it bombed! lol). Each kid IS unique and they need to follow

their own dreams! :) Plus, they stay *motivated* if they're playing

something THEY like instead of what mom/dad likes. We're also going

to introduce martial arts over the summer. has a problem with

SELF CONTROL (as we know by the flying objects! lol) so, this should

be a great 'sport' to emphasise the importance of self control.

Basketball will be tried again this winter. He did well with this

sport a couple of years ago, but we got sidetracked w/ football. I

think sports and music are great for these kids. That

perfectionistic/obsessive streak is channeled into something POSITIVE

(instead of obsessing about germs or tornados or other things).

Congrats on the big win and the TWO homers! Wow!!! I'm ecstatic! ;)

Joni

P.S. How is doing when an evening thunderstorm pops up during a

baseball game? had ALOT of trouble w/ football -- being out

there on that HUGE field and seeing a summer storm brew over the

horizon-- without a 'dugout' to run to. His meds helped, and so did

the peer pressure, but I think football was just too much ~anxiety~

for at the time. I hope you DONT have these experiences w/

. He should try it ALL and find what works for him! One good

thing, if it doesn't work out, you can get a refund for the fees

until the FIRST game in September. Start looking NOW (in those sport

consignment places) for the shoulder pads (and other accessories)

that he'll need. I should send you 's old stuff, which is still

in GOOD shape- but I'm not sure if it would fit . The league

here supplied all the padding EXCEPT the shoulder pads, which run

about $10-$20 USED, or $50+ new. He'll also need FOOTBALL cletes,

too. Geez. I hope I haven't overwhelmed you! lol ;)

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Kellen was on the swim team at the local pool last summer, and played on a

soccer team last fall and this past spring. Her anxiety can also get in her

way because she has high expectations of herself and on game/meet days she

worries that her team won't win or she'll do something to cause the team to

lose or make herself look stupid.

I have emphasized to her that *everyone* feels nervous/exited/worried to one

degree or another about these things, not just kids with OCD. This was

really news to her at first, I think because she had her onset so young and

she tended to think of *all* yucky feelings like this as OCD, and something

that the other kids never had to contend with. I've told her the winners in

this world are the ones who go ahead and do things, and do their best, even

though they are feeling anxious feelings. I think this is an important

cognitive part of participating in sports, taking tests, or anything else

that can cause anxiety, and the ERP of course is to go ahead and participate

despite the anxiety! Like everything else, it gets easier and sparks less

anxiety with repetition.

Though I'm not (and never was LOL) an athlete, I know that those in

professional sport etc. use a variety of relaxation and imagery techniques

to perform their best, so I think you are on the right track.

Kathy R. in Indiana

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From: " Judy " <judyh@...>

> Jessie is in track, but her anxiety does affect her performance. In track

> meets she is very frightened because she feels that everyone is looking at

> her. What I am working on now is relaxation and focusing techniques to

> help her not think about what frightens her and focus on the job at

> hand. Any suggestions?

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Joni, thanks for the warning about those football expenses. Yikes! I don't guess

I realized that they had to buy their own pads and stuff. And are football

cleats that much different from baseball cleats? Would anyone notice? Probably,

I guess.

's a size 12, which ironically is the same size as his soon-to-be 7-year-old

brother, Robin, wears. That kid is built like a Mack truck (kind of like his

mom!). He has been linebacker material since he was about 3 years old! Plus, he

loves to tackle people. He'll be playing football this fall, too.

That's sweet about not wanting to hurt his friends. I wish Robin would

sometimes exhibit that kind of sensitivity. But I can't get him to keep his

hands to himself. He's not being mean or a bully, he just plays that way. He's a

natural born Power Ranger, I guess. And I'm sure that those kinds of cartoons

(along with the constant physical fighting in Pokemon and Digimon) don't help

the situation.

doesn't have that constant fighting streak in him, but he thinks he's

tough. Right now he fights Robin with words, but soon Robin will probably kick

his skinny butt. It's hard being the mom. I don't want the kids to fight, but

part of me wants Robin to get his revenge on his eternally mean big brother. Did

ever get back at his brothers?

I like the idea of music. I played clarinet very well throughout junior high and

high school, and I played the piano not well at all earlier in childhood. (My

mom made me take piano lessons, which I hated. After a year I got to stop the

lessons, then I just taught myself the rest. So I can play the notes, but making

" music " is another matter!) Personally, I would love to see one of the boys play

guitar -- it seems to be a good instrument to help relieve that upcoming teenage

angst. But I know better than to mention it to them. If it's MY idea it won't be

good!

Good luck with your summer activities! We go to a new Pdoc on Monday at UNC to

see if indeed has childhood-onset bipolar disorder. I'll let you know what

happens.

--

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From: " Joni " <lyricaldreamer@...>

Date: 2001/06/01 Fri PM 01:22:05 EDT

Subject: Re: sports

Hey !!

There were PLENTY of small, quiet and SHY boys on 's football team. In

fact, the smaller- the better! Those LITTLE guys can RUN!! They can slip thru

the blockers and out-run the PANTS off the bigger, slower guys! In fact, many of

's baseball buddies play football - and do VERY well. 's just too

sensitive for football, unfortunately because I LOVED watching the games. His

sensitivity didn't sit too well w/ the macho coaches who saw this stocky boy,

BUILT for football, but his heart was too big. (can't you

hear them now: 'oh cry me a river!' ) :) They'd yell at him constantly -

expecting him to be macho and TOUGH. Not so! Oh well.

I didn't push it with . When he started complaining and not wanting to go

to the games, I knew it was over. I DID encourage him to honor his commitment -

and finish out the season.

I do have to warn you about football-- the practices start in the HEAT of the

beginning of August- and they practice EVERY SINGLE DAY OF THE WEEK. It's

INTENSE!! They do push-ups, sprints, sit-ups, crunches, etc... and they don't

get down to the business of tackling and running the ball for about 3 weeks. If

can get through this period of intense training, he's on his way. Many boys

dropped out during this time because it was too much work, too hot, and no fun.

A process of natural selection and 'only the strongest survive' if I ever saw

one! LOL , being the little 'intuitive feeler' that he is, just hated

football! The first season wasn't too bad, but the following year-- I could

barely keep him motivated to show up for the games. He doesn't have that

competitive, KILL THE QUARTERBACK thing in him! :) Oh well, I can't complain

about the lack of 'killer instinct!' :)

We're going to try MUSIC over the summer. I think he's going to be like his dad

with his musical abilities. His dad is a drummer, loves to write music and

listen to it (and so do I), so I'm taking him to a music store over the summer

and let him pick out an instrument. My husband hopes he'll choose the drums, but

he knows better than to project HIS dreams onto his kids (did that to who

played the drums - it bombed! lol). Each kid IS unique and they need to follow

their own dreams! :) Plus, they stay *motivated* if they're playing something

THEY like instead of what mom/dad likes. We're also going to introduce martial

arts over the summer. has a problem with SELF CONTROL (as we know by the

flying objects! lol) so, this should be a great 'sport' to emphasise the

importance of self control.

Basketball will be tried again this winter. He did well with this sport a couple

of years ago, but we got sidetracked w/ football. I think sports and music are

great for these kids. That perfectionistic/obsessive streak is channeled into

something POSITIVE (instead of obsessing about germs or tornados or other

things).

Congrats on the big win and the TWO homers! Wow!!! I'm ecstatic! ;)

Joni

P.S. How is doing when an evening thunderstorm pops up during a baseball

game? had ALOT of trouble w/ football -- being out there on that HUGE

field and seeing a summer storm brew over the horizon-- without a 'dugout' to

run to. His meds helped, and so did the peer pressure, but I think football was

just too much ~anxiety~ for at the time. I hope you DONT have these

experiences w/ . He should try it ALL and find what works for him! One good

thing, if it doesn't work out, you can get a refund for the fees until the FIRST

game in September. Start looking NOW (in those sport consignment places) for the

shoulder pads (and other accessories) that he'll need. I should send you 's

old stuff, which is still in GOOD shape- but I'm not sure if it would fit .

The league here supplied all the padding EXCEPT the shoulder pads, which run

about $10-$20 USED, or $50+ new. He'll also need FOOTBALL cletes, too. Geez. I

hope I haven't overwhelmed you! lol ;)

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I would like to thank everyone for the wonderful suggestions about sports. (age 11) loves to watch sports and get out and toss a baseball or football but when you put him on a field with other kids he falls apart. Sports Day is even worse, if he loses his partner he gets disoriented and lost (at his own school!). Often a kind parent has taken to seeing him through and at least getting him to participate in a few activities but it is one day of the year I would let him chose to skip because it causes him so much distress. This year he has really bonded well with a boy in his class so he might be able to cope. It is scheduled for the last day of school (end of June here) and it is really more of a fun event than serious track and field.

I have wondered about martial arts... I think the key would be to find a very patient and sensitive teacher. is tall and slim but his gross motor skills always lagged behind other kids and I thought maybe martial arts might teach him more physical discipline. When he was at the hospital school they began every day with yoga and he quite enjoyed it but I can't imagine an 11 year old boy choosing to take yoga outside of such a structured setting. Swimming has been suggested a lot and one of the key problems here is that also suffers from severe psoriasis, which is of course, aggravated by stress. I can't seem to keep it under control since he does not like the feel of the cream but is mortified by the scars. We may have to try light therapy but that is every day for a month! Then again, the desire to swim might be motivation to tackle the psoriasis! There is also a non-competitive basketball team in town that I plan to look into next year. And the idea of going to the gym might be a good motivation for me to work out more!

We do enjoy outdoor activities like hiking and birdwatching but getting out the door is the biggest challenge, once he gets out he is fine. If I find myself a newer bike both kids now ride well enough for family biking trips too. And we are fortunate to have an Art Centre down the street and every year the kids take art classes after school. The staff there are especially understanding of and his unique needs. But I really would like to find a physical activity that he will enjoy and stick to for a while.

Thanks again for all the great ideas!

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Hi, all!

plays percussion in the high school band and believe me it

was at times the only highlight of an otherwise stressful year!

Beyond that, when R's compulsions (enormous time wasted on putting up

percussion equipment, taking forever to adjust the snare head, doing

pull-ups on the shelves in the percussion room, etc.)became more than

the director could tolerate, he let him have it and before we knew it

had reigned in his " band hall " compulsions. So, I couldn't

agree more...music is great!

Melinda s.

Dallas

> Joni, thanks for the warning about those football expenses. Yikes!

I don't guess I realized that they had to buy their own pads and

stuff. And are football cleats that much different from baseball

cleats? Would anyone notice? Probably, I guess.

>

> 's a size 12, which ironically is the same size as his soon-to-

be 7-year-old brother, Robin, wears. That kid is built like a Mack

truck (kind of like his mom!). He has been linebacker material since

he was about 3 years old! Plus, he loves to tackle people. He'll be

playing football this fall, too.

>

> That's sweet about not wanting to hurt his friends. I wish

Robin would sometimes exhibit that kind of sensitivity. But I can't

get him to keep his hands to himself. He's not being mean or a bully,

he just plays that way. He's a natural born Power Ranger, I guess.

And I'm sure that those kinds of cartoons (along with the constant

physical fighting in Pokemon and Digimon) don't help the situation.

>

> doesn't have that constant fighting streak in him, but he

thinks he's tough. Right now he fights Robin with words, but soon

Robin will probably kick his skinny butt. It's hard being the mom. I

don't want the kids to fight, but part of me wants Robin to get his

revenge on his eternally mean big brother. Did ever get back at

his brothers?

>

> I like the idea of music. I played clarinet very well throughout

junior high and high school, and I played the piano not well at all

earlier in childhood. (My mom made me take piano lessons, which I

hated. After a year I got to stop the lessons, then I just taught

myself the rest. So I can play the notes, but making " music " is

another matter!) Personally, I would love to see one of the boys play

guitar -- it seems to be a good instrument to help relieve that

upcoming teenage angst. But I know better than to mention it to them.

If it's MY idea it won't be good!

>

> Good luck with your summer activities! We go to a new Pdoc on

Monday at UNC to see if indeed has childhood-onset bipolar

disorder. I'll let you know what happens.

>

> --

>

>

> ============================================================

> From: " Joni " <lyricaldreamer@y...>

> Date: 2001/06/01 Fri PM 01:22:05 EDT

> @y...

> Subject: Re: sports

>

> Hey !!

> There were PLENTY of small, quiet and SHY boys on 's football

team. In fact, the smaller- the better! Those LITTLE guys can RUN!!

They can slip thru the blockers and out-run the PANTS off the bigger,

slower guys! In fact, many of 's baseball buddies play football -

and do VERY well. 's just too sensitive for football,

unfortunately because I LOVED watching the games. His sensitivity

didn't sit too well w/ the macho coaches who saw this stocky boy,

BUILT for football, but his heart was too big. (can't you

> hear them now: 'oh cry me a river!' ) :) They'd yell at him

constantly - expecting him to be macho and TOUGH. Not so! Oh well.

> I didn't push it with . When he started complaining and not

wanting to go to the games, I knew it was over. I DID encourage him

to honor his commitment - and finish out the season.

>

> I do have to warn you about football-- the practices start in the

HEAT of the beginning of August- and they practice EVERY SINGLE DAY

OF THE WEEK. It's INTENSE!! They do push-ups, sprints, sit-ups,

crunches, etc... and they don't get down to the business of tackling

and running the ball for about 3 weeks. If can get through this

period of intense training, he's on his way. Many boys dropped out

during this time because it was too much work, too hot, and no fun. A

process of natural selection and 'only the strongest survive' if I

ever saw one! LOL , being the little 'intuitive feeler' that he

is, just hated football! The first season wasn't too bad, but the

following year-- I could barely keep him motivated to show up for the

games. He doesn't have that competitive, KILL THE QUARTERBACK thing

in him! :) Oh well, I can't complain about the lack of 'killer

instinct!' :)

>

> We're going to try MUSIC over the summer. I think he's going to be

like his dad with his musical abilities. His dad is a drummer, loves

to write music and listen to it (and so do I), so I'm taking him to a

music store over the summer and let him pick out an instrument. My

husband hopes he'll choose the drums, but he knows better than to

project HIS dreams onto his kids (did that to who played the

drums - it bombed! lol). Each kid IS unique and they need to follow

> their own dreams! :) Plus, they stay *motivated* if they're playing

something THEY like instead of what mom/dad likes. We're also going

to introduce martial arts over the summer. has a problem with

SELF CONTROL (as we know by the flying objects! lol) so, this should

be a great 'sport' to emphasise the importance of self control.

>

> Basketball will be tried again this winter. He did well with this

sport a couple of years ago, but we got sidetracked w/ football. I

think sports and music are great for these kids. That

perfectionistic/obsessive streak is channeled into something POSITIVE

(instead of obsessing about germs or tornados or other things).

>

> Congrats on the big win and the TWO homers! Wow!!! I'm ecstatic! ;)

> Joni

>

> P.S. How is doing when an evening thunderstorm pops up during

a baseball game? had ALOT of trouble w/ football -- being out

there on that HUGE field and seeing a summer storm brew over the

horizon-- without a 'dugout' to run to. His meds helped, and so did

the peer pressure, but I think football was just too much ~anxiety~

for at the time. I hope you DONT have these experiences w/

. He should try it ALL and find what works for him! One good

thing, if it doesn't work out, you can get a refund for the fees

until the FIRST game in September. Start looking NOW (in those sport

consignment places) for the shoulder pads (and other accessories)

that he'll need. I should send you 's old stuff, which is still

in GOOD shape- but I'm not sure if it would fit . The league here

supplied all the padding EXCEPT the shoulder pads, which run about

$10-$20 USED, or $50+ new. He'll also need FOOTBALL cletes, too.

Geez. I hope I haven't overwhelmed you! lol ;)

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> Joni, thanks for the warning about those football expenses. Yikes!

I don't guess I realized that they had to buy their own pads and

stuff. And are football cleats that much different from baseball

cleats? Would anyone notice? Probably, I guess.

*** If I were you, I'd go in buying as cheaply (or 'previously worn'

equipment) as you can: (buy USED shoulder pads at a sports

consignment shop or sometimes, league parents will display -for sale-

their kids' outgrown shoulder pads in the equipment room). That way,

if one of the boys decides they don't want to keep playing football,

you haven't invested that much. As far as the cleats: The first

year played football, he wore his baseball cleats. We did this

for economic reasons and just in case he didn't like football. Plus--

he's a GROWING BOY, feet included! :) The second year, we bought

him *high top football cleats* because these kids are on their FEET

all the time - non stop!! They're ankles wear out and they need the

extra ankle support. If you can find some inexpensive *football*

cleats the FIRST year, I'd recommend doing so. 's ankles

started giving out that first year while using his low top baseball

cleats. Plus, the kids DO notice. And, with that OCD feeling of

being 'different from everyone else' I think it's important to make

them feel 'mainstream.'

The football cleats ARE made a little differently-- the spikes are

bigger, to dig into the turf (if memory serves me). But, the

appearance of the two shoes are virtually the same. Only a coach or

a trained eye can tell the difference between a high top football

cleat and a high top baseball cleat. I'm not big on details, so I'm

kind of oblivious to all that stuff! :)

>

(snip) Did ever get back at his brothers?

***LOL! Don't get me started about the TESTOSTERONE level in my

house! is 19, is 17 and is 10. R & N are average

sized teenage guys. Their little brother (who is built like the

HULK) is gonna KICK SOME MAJOR booty very soon!!! He's already

started with the MOUTH - getting some MAJOR revenge for all the

picking on and crap he's endured since BIRTH! I've done my BEST to

protect from his older brothers, but it HAS helped him handle

bullies and mean kids at school. If he can handle his two brothers -

pfffffff - everything else is CAKE! :) Life is really weird, ya

know? was my SURPRISE baby. He was SUPPOSED to be my little

GIRL. So here I am with 3 sons--- and I had two sisters! I didn't

have a CLUE how to raise BOYS, but they've been alot of fun. I've

definitely had to learn how to talk like a MARSIAN! When I

communicate to them, they can't handle too many WORDS! :) And

feelings? FuggetABOUTit! is my only 'touchy feely' kid on the

INSIDE, but on the outside-- he's WWF's 'THE ROCK!' GO FIGURE! He

DEFINITELY doesn't look like the kind of kid that would be afraid of

a storm or a bunch of silly germs!!! LOL Oh-- it's so funny!

Imagine a WWF wrestler running around TERRIFIED if somebody

sneezes!!!!!!?????? :)

>

>

> Good luck with your summer activities! We go to a new Pdoc on

Monday at UNC to see if indeed has childhood-onset bipolar

disorder. I'll let you know what happens.

*** Please do. 's gonna be fine. Keep the FAITH!! :)

Joni

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HI Judy:

This problem is a common symptom in social anxiety disorder. YOu may want

to discuss this possibility with her doc. Exposure techniques can be very

powerful in helping with this. Of course I am not a doc, just a parent of

a child with anxiety disorders and a person with GAD.

Making a loop tape with all the things people might be thinking about her

when they look at her doing track and listening to it until she gets bored

can be a step in tackling this one. KNowing that her anxiety will rob her

of what she can enjoy may provide the necessary motivation to attack this

difficult task. Good luck, take care, aloha, Kathy (h)

kathyh@...

P.S. I always like to do a bit of paradoxical humor to lighten up Steve's

fears, and he is now getting quite a rep at school for being a humorist. K.

At 08:47 PM 05/31/2001 -0700, you wrote:

>Jessie is in track, but her anxiety does affect her performance. In track

>meets she is very frightened because she feels that everyone is looking at

>her. What I am working on now is relaxation and focusing techniques to

>help her not think about what frightens her and focus on the job at

>hand. Any suggestions?

>

>Judy <the other one>

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At 07:26 AM 06/01/2001, you wrote:

>Though I'm not (and never was LOL) an athlete, I know that those in

>professional sport etc. use a variety of relaxation and imagery techniques

>to perform their best, so I think you are on the right track.

>

>Kathy R. in Indiana

Jessie just loves horses and recently saw the movie, " The Black

Stallion " . In the movie, Black is very fast and wins the big race, so now

she imagines that she is him and running like the wind! Hopefully that

will help her next month at the California State Games in San Diego. She's

never done anything of this magnitude before and it is so big that she may

panic. But she may surprise me. Her doc has put her back on the Prozac,

with Concerta also to help settle her down from the hyperactivity and it

should be working by then.

I've never been an athlete either, my own undiagnosed anxiety prevented

that when I was younger. Now that I am not so young, and on meds, I'm too

old to start! LOL

Judy

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Hi Judy, you wrote:

> Jessie just loves horses and recently saw the movie, " The Black

> Stallion " . In the movie, Black is very fast and wins the big race, so now

> she imagines that she is him and running like the wind! Hopefully that

> will help her next month at the California State Games in San Diego.

She's

> never done anything of this magnitude before and it is so big that she may

> panic. But she may surprise me. Her doc has put her back on the Prozac,

> with Concerta also to help settle her down from the hyperactivity and it

> should be working by then.

The Black Stallion is wonderful success imagery for a runner! I like the

way Jessie is finding positive images to counter the negative OCD ones. I

do hope her new meds kick in by then, and also some ERP around the specific

issues this State Games are raising would be helpful for her. I am nearly

certain she will surprise you!

> I've never been an athlete either, my own undiagnosed anxiety prevented

> that when I was younger. Now that I am not so young, and on meds, I'm too

> old to start! LOL

NOT! There are the Senior Olympics, right?! :-)

Best of luck to Jessie in her big competition, but she is already a winner

because she is out there giving it her best despite the challenges OCD may

throw her way. Go Jessie!

Kathy R. in Indiana

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Don't contact any of the below. . . . contact our own Dwarf Athletic

Association of America!!

At daaa@...!!!> It has been part of the U.S.Paralympic Program

for years. They have sent Athletes to Koreo, Australia, England and

other World Class Paralympic events!!!

>

> The U.S. Paralympic National Performance Team is looking for new

athletes

> with physical disabilities who are interested in training for and

possibly

> competing in the 2004 Paralympic Games in Athens Greece. Any athlete,

> coach, administrator, parent or friend who knows of such a person is

> encouraged to contact a National Performance Team coach.

>

> U.S. Paralympics

>

> U.S. Paralympics is a division of the U.S. Olympic

Committee

> that was created in May 2001 to focus efforts on enhancing programs,

> funding and opportunities for persons with physical disabilities to

> participate in Paralympic sport.

>

> The mission of U.S. Paralympics is to be the world leader

in the

> Paralympic movement and to promote excellence in the lives of persons

with

> physical disabilities.

>

> History of the Paralympic Games

>

> The Paralympic Games are the second largest sporting event

in

> the world, conceding top honors only to the Olympics. The multi-sport

> competition showcases the talents and abilities of the world’s most

elite

> athletes with physical disabilities. The Paralympics feature 22 sports,

19

> or which are also contested in the Olympics.

>

> The first Paralympics were held in 1960 in Rome, Italy. In

1988,

> Seoul, Korea, began the modern-day practice of the Olympic-host nation

also

> hosting the Paralympic Games. Today more than 4,000 athletes from 120

> countries participate in the Summer Paralympics, while more than 1,100

> athletes from 36 countries compete in the Winter Parlympic Games.

>

> Disability groups represented in the Paralympics include:

>

> · Athletes with amputations

>

> · Athletes who are blind or visually impaired

>

> · Athletes with cerebal palsy

>

> · Athletes with spinal cord injuries or who use wheelchairs, and

>

> · Athletes who are affected by a range of other disabilities

that do

> not fall into the aforementioned categories, such as multiple sclerosis

or

> dwarfism.

>

> Key Paralympic Facts

>

>

> More than 54 million people with disabilities live in the United States

> 143 million Americans are family members of persons with disabilities

> 66 percent of Americans are disabled for more than 6 months in their

> lifetime.

> 75 percent of children with disabilities are not active in physical

> education.

> A 1996 Surgeon General’s report concluded that inactivity and poor diet

> contribute to nearly 300,000 deaths in the United States annually.

>

>

> How Do I Get Started?

>

> Contact the National Program Director for Track & Field Hoddle or

> contact the event area coach for the event in which you participate.

>

> Visit <A HREF= " http://www.usparalympics.org/ " >www.usparalympics.org</A>

and review the “qualification standards” to

> determine eligibility for elite or emerging elite team support from

U.S.

> Paralympics.

>

> The National Performance Team coaching staff includes:

>

> Program Director: Hoddle (Washington) Email: <A

HREF= " mailto:bhoddle@... " >

> bhoddle@...</A>

>

> Assistant Program Director/ Endurance: Ron (Texas)

>

>

> Email: <A HREF= " mailto:rljtack@... " >rljtack@...</A>

>

> Sprints and Jumps Coach: Tony Veney (Oregon)

>

>

> Email: <A HREF= " mailto:trakcoach@... " >trakcoach@...</A>

>

> Throws and Weights Coach: Meg Stone (Colorado)

>

>

> Email: <A

HREF= " mailto:coachstone@... " >coachstone@...</A>

>

> Wheelchair Coach: Craig Hempel (Illinois) Email: <A

HREF= " mailto:champel@... " >

> champel@...</A>

>

>

> Recruitment & Junior development: Terri Jordan-Lucas (Pennsylvania)

>

>

> Email: <A HREF= " mailto:txj3@... " >txj3@...</A>

>

> How Do I Make The Team?

>

> Qualifying for the 2004 Paralympic Track and Field Team will be based

on an

> athlete’s performance as it compares to performances of athletes with

> similar disabilities produced at major international competitions.

> Currently the performance staff is forming a pool of elite and emerging

> elite athlete who will be given the opportunity to attend special

training

> camps, elite competitions throughout the United States and the world.

They

> also will be provided with the opportunity to benefit from some of the

best

> coaches in the United States.

>

> What are you waiting for? Contact a coach today and lets us get you

started

> on your “Road to Athens, 2004”.

>

> Link to Classifications: <A

HREF= " http://www.usparalympics.org/trackclass.htm " >http://www.usparalympi

cs.org/trackclass.htm</A>

>

> Link to Qualification Standards: <A

HREF= " http://www.usparalympics.org/qualificationstandards.htm " >

> http://www.usparalympics.org/qualificationstandards.htm</A>

>

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Hello all.

If you are interested in Paralympic events and are not sure who to contact,

then do contact Janet Brown the Executive Director of DAAA. She will point

you in the correct direction.

The US Paralympic Program has been revised in the past few years and been

made more centralized. For good or bad, disability groups (like DAAA or

Wheelchair Sports) no longer sends their athletes to international events.

Athletes must qualify through US Paralympics.

DAAA is the premier group for local, regional and national dwarf sporting

events and international dwarf only events.

Also, thanks to Marge for posting DAAA's email address.

Cheers,

Jill Kennedy

> Subj:Fw: sports

> Date:4/29/2003 5:19:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time

> From:<A HREF= " mailto:MargeClpa@... " >MargeClpa@...</A>

> To:<A HREF= " mailto:dwarfism " >dwarfism </A>

> Sent from the Internet

>

>

> Don't contact any of the below. . . . contact our own Dwarf Athletic

> Association of America!!

> At daaa@...!!!> It has been part of the U.S.Paralympic Program

> for years. They have sent Athletes to Koreo, Australia, England and

> other World Class Paralympic events!!!

>

>

> > The U.S. Paralympic National Performance Team is looking for new

> athletes

> > with physical disabilities who are interested in training for and

> possibly

> > competing in the 2004 Paralympic Games in Athens Greece. Any athlete,

> > coach, administrator, parent or friend who knows of such a person is

> > encouraged to contact a National Performance Team coach.

> >

> > U.S. Paralympics

> >

> > U.S. Paralympics is a division of the U.S. Olympic

> Committee

> > that was created in May 2001 to focus efforts on enhancing programs,

> > funding and opportunities for persons with physical disabilities to

> > participate in Paralympic sport.

> >

> > The mission of U.S. Paralympics is to be the world leader

> in the

> > Paralympic movement and to promote excellence in the lives of persons

> with

> > physical disabilities.

> >

> > History of the Paralympic Games

> >

> > The Paralympic Games are the second largest sporting event

> in

> > the world, conceding top honors only to the Olympics. The multi-sport

> > competition showcases the talents and abilities of the worlds most

> elite

> > athletes with physical disabilities. The Paralympics feature 22 sports,

> 19

> > or which are also contested in the Olympics.

> >

> > The first Paralympics were held in 1960 in Rome, Italy. In

> 1988,

> > Seoul, Korea, began the modern-day practice of the Olympic-host nation

> also

> > hosting the Paralympic Games. Today more than 4,000 athletes from 120

> > countries participate in the Summer Paralympics, while more than 1,100

> > athletes from 36 countries compete in the Winter Parlympic Games.

> >

> > Disability groups represented in the Paralympics include:

> >

> > Athletes with amputations

> >

> > Athletes who are blind or visually impaired

> >

> > Athletes with cerebal palsy

> >

> > Athletes with spinal cord injuries or who use wheelchairs, and

> >

> > Athletes who are affected by a range of other disabilities

> that do

> > not fall into the aforementioned categories, such as multiple sclerosis

> or

> > dwarfism.

> >

> > Key Paralympic Facts

> >

> >

> > More than 54 million people with disabilities live in the United States

>

> > 143 million Americans are family members of persons with disabilities

> > 66 percent of Americans are disabled for more than 6 months in their

> > lifetime.

> > 75 percent of children with disabilities are not active in physical

> > education.

> > A 1996 Surgeon Generals report concluded that inactivity and poor diet

>

> > contribute to nearly 300,000 deaths in the United States annually.

>

> >

> >

> > How Do I Get Started?

> >

> > Contact the National Program Director for Track & Field Hoddle or

>

> > contact the event area coach for the event in which you participate.

> >

> > Visit <A HREF= " http://www.usparalympics.org/ " >www.usparalympics.org</A>

> and review the qualification standards to

> > determine eligibility for elite or emerging elite team support from

> U.S.

> > Paralympics.

> >

> > The National Performance Team coaching staff includes:

> >

> > Program Director: Hoddle (Washington) Email:

> HREF= " mailto:bhoddle@... " >

> > bhoddle@...

> >

> > Assistant Program Director/ Endurance: Ron (Texas)

> >

> >

>

> > Email: <A HREF= " mailto:rljtack@... " >rljtack@...</A>

> >

> > Sprints and Jumps Coach: Tony Veney (Oregon)

> >

> >

>

> > Email: <A HREF= " mailto:trakcoach@... " >trakcoach@...</A>

> >

> > Throws and Weights Coach: Meg Stone (Colorado)

> >

> >

>

> > Email: HREF= " mailto:coachstone@... " >coachstone@...

> >

> > Wheelchair Coach: Craig Hempel (Illinois) Email:

> HREF= " mailto:champel@... " >

> > champel@...

>

> >

> >

> > Recruitment & Junior development: Terri Jordan-Lucas (Pennsylvania)

> >

> >

>

> > Email: <A HREF= " mailto:txj3@... " >txj3@...</A>

> >

> > How Do I Make The Team?

> >

> > Qualifying for the 2004 Paralympic Track and Field Team will be based

> on an

> > athletes performance as it compares to performances of athletes with

> > similar disabilities produced at major international competitions.

> > Currently the performance staff is forming a pool of elite and emerging

>

> > elite athlete who will be given the opportunity to attend special

> training

> > camps, elite competitions throughout the United States and the world.

> They

> > also will be provided with the opportunity to benefit from some of the

> best

> > coaches in the United States.

> >

> > What are you waiting for? Contact a coach today and lets us get you

> started

> > on your Road to Athens, 2004.

> >

> > Link to Classifications:

> HREF= " http://www.usparalympics.org/trackclass.htm " >http://www.usparalympi

> cs.org/trackclass.htm

> >

> > Link to Qualification Standards:

> HREF= " http://www.usparalympics.org/qualificationstandards.htm " >

> > http://www.usparalympics.org/qualificationstandards.htm

> >

>

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No,they do not - not even religious exemptions. And the reason for that is

because a school has an obligation to educate a child, however, they do not

have an obligation to make sure little ny or Suzie plays football or

volleyball. Sports is considered " extra-curricular " not " educational " .

Like I said, I know there's a case in the courts on this right now - but if

this case wins, I do not know if it will effect only that state or not. It

may however, should it prevail, at least possibly set precedent for

somewhere else...

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Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 15:56:13 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)

From: " Carver " <jenjackcarver@...>

Subject: sports?

Do exemptions really not work for sports?

jen c

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Are you talking about a vaccination exemption or an exemption for a

physcial?

>

> No,they do not - not even religious exemptions. And the reason

for that is

> because a school has an obligation to educate a child, however,

they do not

> have an obligation to make sure little ny or Suzie plays

football or

> volleyball. Sports is considered " extra-curricular "

not " educational " .

> Like I said, I know there's a case in the courts on this right

now - but if

> this case wins, I do not know if it will effect only that state or

not. It

> may however, should it prevail, at least possibly set precedent

for

> somewhere else...

>

>

>

> Message: 17

> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 15:56:13 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)

> From: " Carver " <jenjackcarver@b...>

> Subject: sports?

>

> Do exemptions really not work for sports?

>

> jen c

> Randi Airola

> 517-819-5926

>

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This is really unfortuante because i have two boys that are dying to play

sports!! Do they always tend to ask for their records?

jen c

-- sports?

Do exemptions really not work for sports?

jen c

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My kids have been playing sports for their public school for several years now.

We've never been questioned about vaccines. I guess it depends on the school

district.

Kay

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This is really unfortuante because i have two boys that are dying to play

sports!! Do they always tend to ask for their records?

jen c

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I'm talking about exemptions for vaccinations, I'm sorry, but, I'm not sure on

the requirements if one wants to refuse a physical.... (sorry)

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Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 00:01:14 -0000

From: " Sara " <SaraShaughnessy@...>

Subject: Re: Sports

Are you talking about a vaccination exemption or an exemption for a

physcial?

-----------------------------------------------------

And , Kay brings up a good point - there are some Districts that

either don't make it a " high priority " , or, don't pay much attention... Some do

- some don't. It really does depend on the school District and each person

that's in whatever position.

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Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 08:25:42 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)

From: " Carver " <jenjackcarver@...>

Subject: Re: RE: Sports

This is really unfortuante because i have two boys that are dying to

play sports!! Do they always tend to ask for their records?

jen c

-- Re: RE: Sports

My kids have been playing sports for their public school for several

years now. We've never been questioned about vaccines. I guess it

depends on the school district.

Kay

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Hi,

I do Yoga, Pilates and light hand and leg weights. I have a Cochlear

Freedom, and I'm told it can get wet. It hasn't gotten wet yet, but I don't

think

a little sweat would hurt it according to the literature. If concerned call

all the manufacturers and hear what they have to say.

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Of course it can get wet, but they have a drier that you should put your

implant in every night. That's what I do, that way it will stay dry. Patsy

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I put my processor in a dehumidifier every nite. Keeps the processor and

batteries dry and working better. Also good for hearing aids.

M.

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Hi a -

I have the Nucleus 24 - and wear the 3G. I am an avid tennis player - we

spend winters in Az. where we play almost everyday. As you know it gets

plenty warm there - yes, even in winter! Our summer home is in Central

California which gets hot also.

I have never had a problem with my processor - but do faithfully put it in

the Dri 'n Store each nite.

The new Nucleus Freedom processor is built to federal standards for " water

resistance " and that is the implant/processor being used today. That

processor was developed just for such hot/humid conditions as you are

talking about! The Freedom is the only processor that can make that claim.

Rosemary Armstrong

N24 11/99

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>Reply-

>

>Subject: sports

>Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 17:36:08 -0000

>

>I was wondering what experiences people have had with CI's and sports.

>

>Also, since I will be moving back to New Orleans in a year, what affect

>sweat has on the device...is there one device that performs better

>under hot humid conditions?

>

>Thanks,

>

>mother of who will be implanted in July

>

>

>

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