Vitamin C

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In a message dated 6/4/2002 12:52:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

switch_mn@... writes:

<< I'm trying to avoid eating orange but am afraid my vitamin c daily

amounts will not suffice. >>

Pineapple juice has almost as much vitamin C and is an HB.

Max

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look here: http://www.naturalhub.com/natural_food_guide_fruit_vitamin_c.htm

in particular, guava (highly beneficial) and papaya (neutral) seem to be

stand-outs

Vitamin C

I'm trying to avoid eating orange but am afraid my vitamin c daily

amounts will not suffice. I HATE grapefruit. I'll take supplements

if it comes to that, but does anyone know of fruits like oranges that

have a high vitamin c content and that type o's can eat?

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Strawberries- neutral (avoid for secretors), red bell pepper -Beneficial.

I'm sure there are others but can't think of any more off the top of my

head...

>From: " switch_mn " Reply- To:

> Subject: Vitamin C Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002

>16:31:53 -0000

>

>I'm trying to avoid eating orange but am afraid my vitamin c daily amounts

>will not suffice. I HATE grapefruit. I'll take supplements if it comes to

>that, but does anyone know of fruits like oranges that have a high vitamin

>c content and that type o's can eat?

>

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Where can I find fresh guava? Not even the Whole Foods Markets or other

specialty places I shop have it. I've never had it fresh only dried

guava, which is pretty good (and is only guava, no sugar or other

additives).

Vitamin C

I'm trying to avoid eating orange but am afraid my vitamin c daily

amounts will not suffice. I HATE grapefruit. I'll take supplements

if it comes to that, but does anyone know of fruits like oranges that

have a high vitamin c content and that type o's can eat?

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I've seen guava juice at my Whole Foods

Vitamin C

I'm trying to avoid eating orange but am afraid my vitamin c daily

amounts will not suffice. I HATE grapefruit. I'll take supplements

if it comes to that, but does anyone know of fruits like oranges that

have a high vitamin c content and that type o's can eat?

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I rarely ever use juices. Juice is stripped of fiber and as such it has

a higher Glycemic index and potentially Glycemic load. Has anyone ever

had a fresh guava? It could be that fresh guavas are rare in urban

United States areas.

Vitamin C

I'm trying to avoid eating orange but am afraid my vitamin c daily

amounts will not suffice. I HATE grapefruit. I'll take supplements

if it comes to that, but does anyone know of fruits like oranges that

have a high vitamin c content and that type o's can eat?

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I found these in a couple of online articles.

" Vitamin C is found in fruits and vegetables, including dark green leafy

vegetables, citrus

fruits, melons and squash, berries, tomatoes, peppers and yams. "

" Most vegetables that are dark in color are loaded with vitamins, and the dark

green color in

broccoli translates to Vitamin A and Vitamin C. In fact, one serving of broccoli

will supply you

with 200% of your daily requirement of Vitamin C. What's more, the calcium level

of broccoli is

said to rival that of milk. "

Looks like with our " O " bloodtype, the dark leafy greens are the way to go.

Heidi

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rose hips is the key or lemon and your HB/Neutral veggies and fruits

Re: Vitamin C

In a message dated 6/4/2002 12:52:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

switch_mn@... writes:

<< I'm trying to avoid eating orange but am afraid my vitamin c daily

amounts will not suffice. >>

Pineapple juice has almost as much vitamin C and is an HB.

Max

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Hi Lori,

I should have explained it a bit more when posting. I got this

information from the Failsafe group lists which are run by Sue

Dengate who has worked with salicylate and natural chemical

intolerances for many years and has written several books. These

groups utilize the salicylate & natural/unnatural chemical food lists

from the Royal Prince Alfred Hospital in Australia which appear to be

the most up to date as the RPAH continues ongoing testing of foods. I

am the only one that I know of who has Samter's on this group list

but this list has such valuable information on salicylates that I

joined it. Most of the stuff posted doesn't apply to me.

I am going to quote what was on the original group list several years

ago. This was also posted at an arthritis group list with the

documentation but for the life of me, I can't find that link. I will

continue to hunt for that documentation and post it when I find it.

" Another thing to consider is Vitamin C intake. Did any of you know

that salycilates and vit C compete for excretion in the kidneys? A

large vit C load can have the effect of " damming up " the salicylates

and causing them to stay in the body much longer. This is something

that inflammatory arthritis patients who take large amounts of

aspirin are cautioned about, as well as being aware of dietary

salycilate intake. Large doses of Vit C can lead to salicylate

toxicity at a normally non-toxic dosage. "

" Lori Baur " wrote:

> I'm confused when you say vitamin C " competes " with salicylates.

Why would

> " competing " with salicylates raise the levels of salicylates in

your body?

> Can you please explain? Where did you get this information?

Thanks!

>

> Lori

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Reading in the Feingold Program book, it states that Rose hip which is often the source of vitamin C is found to have natural salicylates.

What I don't understand is when I use muscle testing to test for vitamins, I test okay for the rose hips and Vit C, but when I test for Ester-C (which is the suggested C) I test negative. Of course not everyone tests the same for everything.

What I was surprised was the listing of plants, trees and shrubs that contain natural salicylates, in fact I have most of the plants in my yard that are natural to this area. That explains a lot of why I can't work outside too long without running out of oxygen.

I'm trying right now to work up a low cholesterol non salicylates diet. What a trip that is!

I find that keeping a sense of humor really helps me on my down days. I tend to be kind of silly or some may think I am sarcastic about this disease when I write on this site. I don't mean to offend anyone, just trying to find some humor in some of this crazy illness. I figure if my husband could find humor in losing an arm and leg to electricity I should be able to find some humor in this. So...if I have offended anyone or think I don't take this disease seriously, please accept my apology. I was told that sometimes I don't come across as understanding and believe me I do. I have Samter's, I have very little lung function and I am just trying to make the best of a bad situation and keep my mental attitude up, which is hard some days.

So that is all I know about Vit C. at least at this time.

in Alaska

-- vitamin C

I'm confused when you say vitamin C "competes" with salicylates. Why would"competing" with salicylates raise the levels of salicylates in your body?Can you please explain? Where did you get this information? Thanks!Lori

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Simple. Buy powdered vitamin C. It has 4,000 grams of C per

level teaspoonfull. Use 1 tsp per glass of water. Best to buy a

buffered C because it isn't so terribly sour. With a buffered C, one

can make the drink much stronger than 1 tsp per glass. For me, I

like a mix of plain C and buffered C. It tastes better than either

one alone.

Ideally, one has a knowledgable physician who can give you an IV full

of vitamin C for huge doses, but I can take 50,000 mg of C per day

simply by drinking it. Many years ago, I read of a doctor for the

ski patrol out in Colorado who cured Mononucleosis by having patients

drinking 150,000 mg of C per day. That would be a *lot* of fluid.

Alobar

On 10/26/05, toujourstoijamais <gpatruno1@...> wrote:

> A number of recent posts have referred to the role of vitamin C and

> its ability to kill viral infections. The amounts necessary to do this

> have been high - 75,000 to 150,000 miligrams. The pills, capsules, and

> even powders of vitamin C I've seen contain a maximum of 5,000. How

> does one go about ingesting these amounts? Are there more potent forms

> of the vitamin available?

>

> Thanks to anyone who can answer these questions.

>

>

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From what I have read, most people can handle 8-12 grams of C per day

when healthy. When sickly, we tend to need a lot more. I take

about 12 grams a day these days. Last winter when I had a bad flu,

my daily C went up to about 100 grams for a few days, and was over 50

grams for more than a week. C intake is also connected to body

weight. Big people need more than small people.

Alobar

On 11/29/06, vickyhebbe <vickyhebbe@...> wrote:

>

> I was reading all the posts about taking vitamin c till bowel

> tolerance, well I just up mine to 8000 mgs? per day and still have

> constipation. So what do you think?

>

> Vicky

>

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>From: " vickyhebbe " <vickyhebbe@...>

>I was reading all the posts about taking vitamin c till bowel

>tolerance, well I just up mine to 8000 mgs? per day and still have

>constipation. So what do you think?

Buffered Vitamin C isn't likely to reach bowel tolerance.

It it's not buffered, if you feel OK there's no need to reach tolerance. If

you are sick, then keep going until you reach bowel tolerance, but dosing

for it should be done on an hourly basis. If really sick, I take 5 or

6,000 mg an hour. (At least that's what I did last time I was really sick a

few years ago, and since taking Vitamin C haven't seen a serious infection.)

Constipation can also be caused by gluten (the " glue " literally in flour),

slow thyroid, fluoride, iron, and other factors.

Skipper

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Buffered C reaches bowel tolerance just fine for me.

Alobar

On 11/29/06, Skipper Beers <lsb149@...> wrote:

> Buffered Vitamin C isn't likely to reach bowel tolerance.

>

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> I was reading all the posts about taking vitamin c till bowel

> tolerance, well I just up mine to 8000 mgs? per day and still have

> constipation. So what do you think?

>

> Vicky

>

That lack of Vitamin C is not the cause of the constipation.

Carol

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The 8 gms of vitamin C is peanuts anyway.

Ratan.

--- cbwillis9 <cbwillis9@...> wrote:

> > I was reading all the posts about taking vitamin c

> till bowel

> > tolerance, well I just up mine to 8000 mgs? per

> day and still have

> > constipation. So what do you think?

> >

> > Vicky

> >

>

> That lack of Vitamin C is not the cause of the

> constipation.

>

> Carol

>

>

>

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>

> Buffered C reaches bowel tolerance just fine for me.

>

> Alobar

Me too. Right now I can't go over about 1600 mg of it.

B.

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The subject of C is indeed controversial. One reason is that it is an antioxidant and an immune system booster. If it is an immune system booster, the question becomes: is it good to boost a sick system?

It is for this reason that most hematologists tell you "one multivitamin a day and that's it".

Your comments about C's effects on cholesterol, vs. the effects of statins, however, is very interesting.

Lets see what others think, and then we can ask the MA.

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The issue of vitamin C has long been discussed, especially with

regard to CLL patients. This dates back to the 1970s when some

studies done demonstrated that CLL lymphocytes accumulate vitamin C.

There are several important caveats regarding those data, the most

important of which is that no one knows whether this has any

significance biologically. No one knows if vitamin C helps protect

CLL lymphocytes or not. Some investigators believe it might help

control CLL lymphocytes.

Ultimately, it must be remembered that all cells require the same

basic things to survive, in this case, vitamins. There is no means

to " feed " normal cells and deprive cancer cells of nutrients.

Additionally, the cancer cells will not take what the need from the

body.

Med. Advisor

>

> Hello everone

> I have a question about how much vitamin C is too much, and if too

much can interfere with CLL. Im in stage one - wait and watch/dr

Keating. The reason for me asking is because I have been taking

Lipitor for several years now and a couple of months ago had a bad

muscle spasm in my foot and could hardly walk. I became concerned

and started doing reasearch on the statin drugs. What I read on the

internet was scarry. The health consultant talking about the dangers

of statin drugs said " our bodies produce several thousand miligrams

of chlesterol per day to carry out essential functions, and each day

the excess of cholesterol is supposed to be naturally recylcled. If

Your body dosen't have enough new chloesterol each day, you cannot

repair and replace you cell membranes and the will eventually

degenerate. The continual recycling of cholesterol happens when you

have sufficent aseorbate, another name for vitamin C. Excess

cholesterol is naterally converted to bile and excreted. but if you

dont consume enough vitamin C (about 2000-3000 milligrams per day)

cholesterol builds up in your bloodstream. It is here that doctors

make a critical error; instead of telling you to take more vitamin C

to recycle cholesterol naturally, they prescribe Lipitor, which may

create a deficeincy o new chlesterol. "

> I just wondered if anyone is on larger amounts of vitamin C

and if it in any way can affect CLL. I would not ever consider

taking it if I was on any kind of treament. I have looked for hours

on the internet and the subject of vitamin C is conterversial. Any

comments on this would be much appreciated.

>

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Thanks and Medical Advisor so much for your imput. Sometimes it's hard to know just what to do. I will be seeing Dr Keating in May and I suppose to be on the safe side I will talk with him about vitamin C. I had just started taking 2000 mg a day, but guess will go back to my muti vitamin with minerals. I dont want to do nothing that would affect CLL in a bad way. Not sure what to do now on this chloersteral problem. Im trying hard to eat much healthier and doing a little weight training and hope to start walking more too.

Re: vitamin C

The issue of vitamin C has long been discussed, especially with regard to CLL patients. This dates back to the 1970s when some studies done demonstrated that CLL lymphocytes accumulate vitamin C. There are several important caveats regarding those data, the most important of which is that no one knows whether this has any significance biologically. No one knows if vitamin C helps protect CLL lymphocytes or not. Some investigators believe it might help control CLL lymphocytes.Ultimately, it must be remembered that all cells require the same basic things to survive, in this case, vitamins. There is no means to "feed" normal cells and deprive cancer cells of nutrients. Additionally, the cancer cells will not take what the need from the body.Med. Advisor>> Hello everone> I have a question about how much vitamin C is too much, and if too much can interfere with CLL. Im in stage one - wait and watch/dr Keating. The reason for me asking is because I have been taking Lipitor for several years now and a couple of months ago had a bad muscle spasm in my foot and could hardly walk. I became concerned and started doing reasearch on the statin drugs. What I read on the internet was scarry. The health consultant talking about the dangers of statin drugs said " our bodies produce several thousand miligrams of chlesterol per day to carry out essential functions, and each day the excess of cholesterol is supposed to be naturally recylcled. If Your body dosen't have enough new chloesterol each day, you cannot repair and replace you cell membranes and the will eventually degenerate. The continual recycling of cholesterol happens when you have sufficent aseorbate, another name for vitamin C. Excess cholesterol is naterally converted to bile and excreted. but if you dont consume enough vitamin C (about 2000-3000 milligrams per day) cholesterol builds up in your bloodstream. It is here that doctors make a critical error; instead of telling you to take more vitamin C to recycle cholesterol naturally, they prescribe Lipitor, which may create a deficeincy o new chlesterol."> I just wondered if anyone is on larger amounts of vitamin C and if it in any way can affect CLL. I would not ever consider taking it if I was on any kind of treament. I have looked for hours on the internet and the subject of vitamin C is conterversial. Any comments on this would be much appreciated. >

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I think it depends on your gut tolerance. I have taken C-500 from Optimox, Buffered C - BalanCe from VRP.com and Ester C

Steph

vitamin C

I've been reading about vitamin C supplements. From what I read I understand there are different forms of vitamin C.Buffered, sodium ascorbate, ascorbic acid, camu camu, etc.What should one look for when buying a vitamin C supplement? If you are trying to help Adrenal fatigue.Thank you so much for your time.

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Just want to say you can get cheap powdered ascorbic acid (vit C) from USA, I

get it from www.iherb.com and theres many other sites as well if you google

them, but you do need to keep orders below £17 or you end up paying tax on them.

Postage cost is by weight. I get my q10 there as its so much cheaper than in UK.

HTH

Carole

>

> HI - if you cannot find any Internet pharmacies who sell higher doses

> of Vitamin C, then yes, take three 1000mgs tablets daily. I have just been

> reading the following from " The Vitamin C Foundation " . They recommend that

> every man, woman and child take at least 3000mgs vitamin C daily from the

> age of 3. http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/vitcrda.htm

>

>

>

> Luv - Sheila

>

>

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From: judith franklin <angel47572000@...>Subject: vitamin C"Sheila " <sheilaturner@...>Date: Friday, 8 May, 2009, 11:39 AMHi Sheila, have a question for you.( grin) where do you all buy your Vitamin C from.have looked online but can not find that much at 2000mg. thank

you.regards Angel.

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I buy mine from our local Health Food Store. I get Vitamin C 1000mgs,

which you can double/triple etc when necessary.

Luv - Sheila

Hi Sheila,

have a question for you.( grin) where do you all buy your Vitamin C from.

have looked online but can not find that much at 2000mg. thank you.

regards Angel.

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Hi

I buy my Vit C on line from victoria health -

Description

Unique-C is designed to provide the maximum absorption of non acidic Vitamin C.

Unique-C is in the buffered Ascorbate form which helps to prevent stomach

irritation that is common when supplementing with plain ascorbic acid found in

many over the counter Vitamin C supplements. Unique-C® also provides minerals

and bioflavonoids which help to increase the effectiveness of Vitamin C by as

much as 50%.

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