Vitamin C

[Guest guest]

I buy ascorbic acid in powder/crstal form, 1/4ts is about 2.25grams. I buy from

iherb in USA and its cheaper than here as long as I keep below £18 for

everything I buy.

Carole

......where do you all buy your Vitamin C from.

[Guest guest]

Hi Sheila,

Sorry I thought I did - silly me.

Health online is www.victoriahealth.com. It has a scheme called VH

Addicts where one pays £30 a year and then gets all products at 10% discount.

B

[Guest guest]

> Hi Sheila,

>

> Sorry I thought I did - silly me.

>

> Health online is www.victoriahealth.com. It has a scheme called

VH Addicts where one pays £30 a year and then gets all products at 10% discount.

Also, I forgot to add..........every VH Addict gets a FREE pressie with every

order.

>

> B

>

[Guest guest]

I haven't heard that it is bad.

Steph

vitamin c

is vitamin c with rose hips o.k. to use....or is the rose hips bad for the thyroid?? just saw something that said that flavanoids are detrimental to thryoid...thanks

[Guest guest]

Divided doses are best, as Vit C is not stored in the body but washed out

in the urine. --

>I've been taking regular vitamin C tablets as part of the iodine protocol

>(I mention that only because of all the recent discussion on LET vitamin

>C, etc). I've been taking 1,000 mg at a time, 3 times per day. Should I be

>taking it all at the same time, or does it matter as long as I get at

>least 3,000 mg per day?

>

>Sherry

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

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Is ester c okay to take?

iodine From: cking001@...Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:24:42 -0500Subject: Re: Vitamin C

Your plan is a good one as C doesn't last more than 4 hrs in the body.Spreading it out is a good idea.ChuckWe're lost, but we're making good time.On 1/30/2010 2:42:34 PM, lookonthebriteside (slehr05 ) wrote:> I've been taking regular vitamin C tablets as part of the iodine protocol (I mention that only because of all the recent discussion on LET vitamin C, etc). I've> been taking 1,000 mg at a time, 3 times per day. Should I be taking it all> at the same time, or does it matter as long as I get at least 3,000 mg per> day?> > Sherry>

[Guest guest]

Yes, prunes are rich in magnesium. Salt-loading as well as drinking water should

be of benefit also.

I had a doctor that recommended taking six cal/mags before bed with a glass of

water. It worked but I haven't had any use for it lately.

--- YardBirdMail wrote:

>

> > Just a suggestion, try some prune juice, or just

> prunes. It's an old old remedy for constipation.

> I've used it and works like a charm for me:)

> ...

>

> Bruce P wrote:

> > Whenever I get that I resume my normal breakfast, 2 tbsp organic flax seed>

> in oatmeal

>

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Vitamin C is not produced by the body so you have to take it. The bioflavanoids help the vitamin C to be absorbed and better utilized. It absorbed better when you eat and orange or something.JagFrom: Bruce P <bruce@...>Subject: Vitamin Ciodine Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 9:59 PM

"Taking vitamin C is not really the natural way to acquire it. "Perhaps not the "natural way" but this flies in the face of all scientific evidence for the past 70 years. Recently there has been a lot of "popular" myths on vitamin C flying about the internet."The following treatise represents the position of The Vitamin C Foundation on the true nature of vitamin C. The ascorbate ion, the fraction commonly found in ascorbic acid, or one of the salts, e.g., sodium ascorbate or calcium ascorbate, is vitamin C. This is the substance that when missing in the diet causes death by scurvy. There is no scientific debate about this fact. The scientific literature is so voluminous that few would be capable of digesting it. Part of the problem is that today's dietitians and orthodox nutritionists are taught to ignore much of the early research and medical doctors are not well versed in vitamin C either. Apparently this knowledge vacuum has opened the door to the emotionally appealing idea of a "natural" vitamin C-complexAny review of the scientific literature that spans 80 years and includes more than 100,000 published studies and reports, concludes that what is commonly called vitamin C, the ascorbate ion, or simply ascorbic acid, is the real vitamin C. Humanity is fortunate that Linus ing became interested, for such a review of the literature requires reading the equivalent of 400 bound books just to hold the abstracts. The genius Linus ing was probably the only person who could possibly digest and assimilate and then disseminate this much scientific research over the course of his 30-year study. It was his practice to read the body of every study paper, not merely the abstract, draw conclusions and test whether his conclusions matched the author of the study.The naturalist model, based on vitamin complexes in food, would predict a smaller requirement for vitamin C, perhaps even less than the 2300 mg found in 2500 kcal (or one day's food) on the paleolithic diet. (ing 1986) They might also argue that the need for vitamin C isn't that great; after all, several high-level primates lost the ability to synthesize it. Studies with primates show that adjusted for body weight they require 1750 mg to 3500 mg of ascorbate in their diets. (ing 1986) ..."http://vitamincfoun dation.org/ NaturalC. htmAlso:An historical compendium of 20th-Century medical & scientific literature attesting to the efficacy of Ascorbate(Ascorbic Acid, Cevitamic Acid, Sodium Ascorbate etc. a.k.a. “Vitamin Câ€)in the treatment and prevention of human and animal illnesses and diseases.http://www.seanet. com/~alexs/ ascorbate/ index.htmBruce

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Of course studies of primates don't quite mirror across to humans.

Think of our urban environment, our type of food,our lack of physical

exercise and the amount of stress we have to deal with.

Given this type of environment the primates wouyld probaly need to

generate a great deal more vitamin C.

I read somewhere that apes produce up to 4g in their bodies?

Makes me wonder/

From: Bruce P <brucebkdesign (DOT) ca>Subject: Vitamin Ciodinegroups (DOT) comDate: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 9:59 PM

"Taking vitamin C is not really the natural way to acquire it. "Perhaps not the "natural way" but this flies in the face of all scientific evidence for the past 70 years. Recently there has been a lot of "popular" myths on vitamin C flying about the internet."The following treatise represents the position of The Vitamin C Foundation on the true nature of vitamin C. The ascorbate ion, the fraction commonly found in ascorbic acid, or one of the salts, e.g., sodium ascorbate or calcium ascorbate, is vitamin C. This is the substance that when missing in the diet causes death by scurvy. There is no scientific debate about this fact. The scientific literature is so voluminous that few would be capable of digesting it. Part of the problem is that today's dietitians and orthodox nutritionists are taught to ignore much of the early research and medical doctors are not well versed in vitamin C

either. Apparently this knowledge vacuum has opened the door to the emotionally appealing idea of a "natural" vitamin C-complexAny review of the scientific literature that spans 80 years and includes more than 100,000 published studies and reports, concludes that what is commonly called vitamin C, the ascorbate ion, or simply ascorbic acid, is the real vitamin C. Humanity is fortunate that Linus ing became interested, for such a review of the literature requires reading the equivalent of 400 bound books just to hold the abstracts. The genius Linus ing was probably the only person who could possibly digest and assimilate and then disseminate this much scientific research over the course of his 30-year study. It was his practice to read the body of every study paper, not merely the abstract, draw conclusions and test whether his conclusions matched the author of the study.The

naturalist model, based on vitamin complexes in food, would predict a smaller requirement for vitamin C, perhaps even less than the 2300 mg found in 2500 kcal (or one day's food) on the paleolithic diet. (ing 1986) They might also argue that the need for vitamin C isn't that great; after all, several high-level primates lost the ability to synthesize it. Studies with primates show that adjusted for body weight they require 1750 mg to 3500 mg of ascorbate in their diets. (ing 1986) ..."http://vitamincfoun dation.org/ NaturalC. htmAlso:An historical compendium of 20th-Century medical & scientific literature attesting to the efficacy of Ascorbate(Ascorbic Acid, Cevitamic Acid, Sodium Ascorbate etc. a.k.a. “Vitamin Câ€)in the treatment and prevention of human and animal illnesses and diseases.http://www.seanet. com/~alexs/ ascorbate/ index.htmBruce

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I finally read this article. This is someone's opinion, someone who has a

problem with people who prefer to get their nutrients from food. Just because

they keep people alive intravenously with ascorbic acid doesn't mean we should

be consuming it. We have wonderful whole foods to glean from that have a

special purpose for our bodies.

There are issues with synthetic vitamin C which prompted this list.

http://www.bodymindhealing.info/vitc.php#top

It is a weak argument when someone puts down others to make their argument. I

might have liked it if he hadn't gone after the 'naturalists.'

Joan

>

> " Taking vitamin C is not really the natural way to acquire it. "

>

> Perhaps not the " natural way " but this flies in the face of all scientific

> evidence for the past 70 years. Recently there has been a lot of " popular "

> myths on vitamin C flying about the internet.

>

> " The following treatise represents the position of The Vitamin C Foundation

> on the true nature of vitamin C. The ascorbate ion, the fraction commonly

> found in ascorbic acid, or one of the salts, e.g., sodium ascorbate or

> calcium ascorbate, is vitamin C. This is the substance that when missing in

> the diet causes death by scurvy. There is no scientific debate about this

> fact. The scientific literature is so voluminous that few would be capable

> of digesting it. Part of the problem is that today's dietitians and orthodox

> nutritionists are taught to ignore much of the early research and medical

> doctors are not well versed in vitamin C either. Apparently this knowledge

> vacuum has opened the door to the emotionally appealing idea of a " natural "

> vitamin C-complex

>

> Any review of the scientific literature that spans 80 years and includes

> more than 100,000 published studies and reports, concludes that what is

> commonly called vitamin C, the ascorbate ion, or simply ascorbic acid, is

> the real vitamin C. Humanity is fortunate that Linus ing became

> interested, for such a review of the literature requires reading the

> equivalent of 400 bound books just to hold the abstracts. The genius Linus

> ing was probably the only person who could possibly digest and

> assimilate and then disseminate this much scientific research over the

> course of his 30-year study. It was his practice to read the body of every

> study paper, not merely the abstract, draw conclusions and test whether his

> conclusions matched the author of the study.

>

> The naturalist model, based on vitamin complexes in food, would predict a

> smaller requirement for vitamin C, perhaps even less than the 2300 mg found

> in 2500 kcal (or one day's food) on the paleolithic diet. (ing 1986)

> They might also argue that the need for vitamin C isn't that great; after

> all, several high-level primates lost the ability to synthesize it. Studies

> with primates show that adjusted for body weight they require 1750 mg to

> 3500 mg of ascorbate in their diets. (ing 1986) ... "

> http://vitamincfoundation.org/NaturalC.htm

>

>

> Also:

>

> An historical compendium of 20th-Century medical & scientific literature

> attesting to the efficacy of Ascorbate

> (Ascorbic Acid, Cevitamic Acid, Sodium Ascorbate etc. a.k.a. " Vitamin C " )

> in the treatment and prevention of human and animal illnesses and diseases.

> http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/index.htm

>

>

> Bruce

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Bee,

 

How about this vit C  product (with Bioflavonoids) from iHerb?

 

 

http://www.iherb.com/Bluebonnet-Nutrition-C-1000-Plus-Bioflavonoids-180-Caplets/\

9897?at=0

 

(its a bit cheaper and it contains more mg per tablet)

 

 

 

>>>+++Ensure she is taking 4,000 mg of vitamin C that contains bioflavonoids, in

divided doses - the Natural Factors Vitamin C Extra is excellent and available

at iHerb:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/resource/iherb.php

Bee<<<

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee,

>  

> How about this vit C  product (with Bioflavonoids) from iHerb?

>  

>  

>

http://www.iherb.com/Bluebonnet-Nutrition-C-1000-Plus-Bioflavonoids-180-Caplets/\

9897?at=0

+++Hi ,

That product also contains flavanone, erioritrin, naringen, flavonols and

flavones and I don't know what those are. Cheaper isn't necessarily better.

Bee

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Welcome to Candida Support!

Hi, What is your name please? We go by names here, not email addys.

You can have up to 6 lemons or limes a day on Bee's program. The best way is in

Bee's electrolyte drink. That way you'll also be getting some " good " ocean sea

salt. There are 150 mg of Vitamin C in one lemon.:

Bee's Electrolyte Drink

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/recipes/recipe170.php

If you are using lemon peelings, be sure they are certified organic.

I have never heard of anyone reaching bowel tolerance on lemons. Here are the

instructions for using Vitamin C:

Healthy Diet Supplement Details: Vitamin C

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/weight/supp9.php#ad

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4) Eliminating toxins in general.

When the immune system is strong enough it will automatically " make " candida (or

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>

> Hello I was curious if using peels from lemons, oranges, and limes as vitamin

c would be determental to balancing candida. I have read that the peels contain

loads of vitamin C. I would think the sugar is just in the fruit and juice, but

not sure. Please advise. THANKS SOO MUCH!

>

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>

> Hello I was curious if using peels from lemons, oranges, and limes as vitamin

c would be determental to balancing candida. I have read that the peels contain

loads of vitamin C. I would think the sugar is just in the fruit and juice, but

not sure. Please advise. THANKS SOO MUCH!

+++Hi my friend,

Please have patience, since I reply to messages every morning, and I just

replied to your earlier question about using peels from citrus fruits.

All the best, Bee

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Do you also have him on magnesium, D3, & K2? (there is also a low oxalate diet, but I am not savvy about that.) It seems to me that there is a Katharine Tamaro who has done a lot of research in this area in regard to autism. If you Google her, you might find some info.At any rate, it seems like you run into problems with a mineral, it is because it is not in balance with other minerals & nutrients.As for vitamin C, the body uses it for a LOT of things, & high doses of it have allegedly effected near miraculous cures for serious health issues. As a general rule, it is hard to get too much vitamin C. (High doses of pills can give you diarrhea, but high levels in the BODY are nothing but good.) Rather than looking to reduce C, I would be looking for how to increase other nutrients so that the body can tolerate C.There is also a theory that the liposomal form of vitamin C may be less likely to cause oxalate issues, so that is another thing to look into. You can make it at home for a fairly reasonable price, after the initial outlay for a sonic cleaner.AnneOn Feb 5, 2011, at 11:04 AM, <kldett@...> wrote: Can someone please tell me why the vitamin C is necessary.....my son has high oxalates (vitamin C turns into oxalate in his body) and I am afraid to give it to him.....when I had him on 1000 mg of vit C a year and a half ago his levels were 1100 and the high end of ref range is 37! We worked so hard to get his levels down.....I don't want to mess that up.....thoughts? -- Kasey Dettinger

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Most Vitamin C on the market (including buffered) is derived from corn. My

reaction to it was the same as yours.

My ND recommended some C derived from Cassava, and I've been tolerating that

just fine.

Think about it: today's corn is not the corn of 30 years ago. It's genetically

modified (unless it says ORGANIC). GM corn and GM soy are highly allergenic.

> >

> > Buffered C reaches bowel tolerance just fine for me.

> >

> > Alobar

>

> Me too. Right now I can't go over about 1600 mg of it.

>

> B.

>

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Liposomal vitamin C is derived from non-GMO products. It's silly expensive, but is pretty amazing stuff.

BarbF

In a message dated 2/5/2011 9:45:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tabler@... writes:

Most Vitamin C on the market (including buffered) is derived from corn. My reaction to it was the same as yours.My ND recommended some C derived from Cassava, and I've been tolerating that just fine.Think about it: today's corn is not the corn of 30 years ago. It's genetically modified (unless it says ORGANIC). GM corn and GM soy are highly allergenic.> >> > Buffered C reaches bowel tolerance just fine for me.> > > > Alobar> > Me too. Right now I can't go over about 1600 mg of it.> > B.>

[Guest guest]

Corn is, I am told, also very commonly contaminated with mold which can be what

some people are reacting to.

Jaye

> > >

> > > Buffered C reaches bowel tolerance just fine for me.

> > >

> > > Alobar

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> > Me too. Right now I can't go over about 1600 mg of it.

> >

> > B.

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>

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ester c says it is non gmo and i forget where i read that it is not made from corn. diane, near philly, pa On Feb 6, 2011, at 8:21 AM, Bbircie@... wrote:Liposomal vitamin C is derived from non-GMO products. It's silly expensive, but is pretty amazing stuff.BarbF In a message dated 2/5/2011 9:45:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tabler@... writes: Most Vitamin C on the market (including buffered) is derived from corn. My reaction to it was the same as yours.My ND recommended some C derived from Cassava, and I've been tolerating that just fine.Think about it: today's corn is not the corn of 30 years ago. It's genetically modified (unless it says ORGANIC). GM corn and GM soy are highly allergenic.> >> > Buffered C reaches bowel tolerance just fine for me.> > > > Alobar> > Me too. Right now I can't go over about 1600 mg of it.> > B.>

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Nutribiotic makes pharmaceutical grade vitamin C powders, & claims on their web-site that it is so ultra-purified that people with corn allergies can take it, even though it originated with corn, because there are no corn proteins left in the finished product.AnneOn Feb 6, 2011, at 1:00 PM, diane gaul wrote: ester c says it is non gmo and i forget where i read that it is not made from corn. diane, near philly, pa On Feb 6, 2011, at 8:21 AM, Bbircie@... wrote:Liposomal vitamin C is derived from non-GMO products. It's silly expensive, but is pretty amazing stuff.BarbF In a message dated 2/5/2011 9:45:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tabler@... writes: Most Vitamin C on the market (including buffered) is derived from corn. My reaction to it was the same as yours.My ND recommended some C derived from Cassava, and I've been tolerating that just fine.Think about it: today's corn is not the corn of 30 years ago. It's genetically modified (unless it says ORGANIC). GM corn and GM soy are highly allergenic.> >> > Buffered C reaches bowel tolerance just fine for me.> > > > Alobar> > Me too. Right now I can't go over about 1600 mg of it.> > B.>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee,

>

> I was wondering if Its okay to take 2000mg of vit c in the morning and

2000mg at night?? Or does it have to be divided throughout the day??

>

> Thanks

>

>

@@ Hi ,

Yes, that is fine, if you have gradually increase it up to a total of 4,000 mg

per day and you aren't getting loose stools.

Best in Health

Ed

group moderator

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Vitamin C

Also called ascorbic acid, vitamin C is necessary for the growth and repair of tissue, wound healing, and the health of cartilage, bones, and teeth. It is a powerful antioxidant, meaning that it neutralizes potentially harmful free radicals in our bodies. It is water-soluble, and the body can store only small amounts. Thus, humans must consume vitamin C on a regular basis. Many fruits and vegetables are rich in vitamin C, especially citrus fruits, peppers, broccoli, strawberries, and cantaloupe.Claims, purported benefits: Vitamin C supplements, especially in high doses, prevent or cure colds; may help prevent cancer, heart disease, and cataracts and other vision problems, or any of the other chronic conditions thought to be a result of free radical damage.Bottom line: There’s no evidence that megadoses of vitamin C prevent or cure cancer or colds. In spite of the thousands of studies, the only certainty is that vitamin C prevents

scurvy and plays other basic roles in human health. An intake of 75 to 90 milligrams daily appears to be all you really need. More does not seem to be better, except in the case of smokers—and then only an extra 35 milligrams is needed. If, however, you eat nine servings of fruits and vegetables daily, as we recommend, you’ll get far more vitamin C—probably 200 to 500 milligrams a day. There’s no evidence you need this much, but such a diet will also supply many other nutrients that, all together, will help keep you healthy and may reduce your risk of cancer and heart disease. In other words, in striving to consume more vitamin C, you’ll improve your diet. Supplementation is not necessary or recommended.

Wellness Letter

http://Hepatitis Cnewdrugs.blogspot.com/2011/03/vitamin-c.html

[Guest guest]

Hello SAJ,

Any form of Vitamin C is fine.

Kathleen

moderator

Vitamin C

Hi All,Vitamin C question for companion nutrient: Ester-C or Liposomal C ??ThanksSAJ