Guest guest Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Loads - but apologies, I am too busy to go and find them for you *grin*. First look at the information in our web site www.tpa-uk.org.uk and especially check out about Vitamin D3 both in the FILES on our forum and under 'Associated Conditions' - you can also read about the ferritin connection with hypothyroidism and also candida connection. There are loads of papers about B12 deficiency in hypothyroidism and the importance of magnesium, zinc and copper - just type in something like 'magnesium hypothyroidism' etc into google. You will find the papers you need. Luv - Sheila Are there any official papers saying this, as in ones that the endo & GP will believe rather than referring to them as " things you read on the internet " ? I have recently had a lower than range result on D3, but the doctors are not interested - my GPO said " I thought we get enough of that from the sun & mention it to the endo " , the endo said it was nothing to do with him. Another GP I saw the other day said he is not interested in doing tests which are requested and that tests are expensive and he only does what he thinks are the norm & necessary. I think they are really tightening up - a different GP rung the lab & requested FT3 for me and arranged new blood tests but when these arrived at the lab they were yet again cancelled - all the thyroid ones canc as done within 30 days, he was going to yet again ring the lab, but I don't know the result of that. I guess I am going to have to pay for private ones & just ask them to take the blood ( & hope they do not charge to take the blood!). Val Vitamin D3, zinc, magnesium and copper. If any of these are low, it will be stopping your thyroid hormone replacement from being absorbed. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.4/2080 - Release Date: 04/25/09 08:29:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Blood tests to ask for: TSH. Free T3 Free T4 Ferritin Vitamin B2, vitamin D3 Magnesium Copper Zinc Folate Is there a file that will tell me exactly what blood tests I should be asking my GP to test me for,for the next time I have my TSH level tested?I know there are vitamins etc but I dont know exactly what to ask for.Thankyou. Best wishes Sharon No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.71/2334 - Release Date: 08/29/09 17:51:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 - if you read the recent Royal College of Physicians, British Thyroid Association's et all recent guidance on the Diagnosis and management of Hypothyroidism, you will see that they are trying to stop all medical practitioners from even treating patients with either synthetic T3 or natural T3 - they are actively boycotting all such products, trying to make doctors believe that T3 is dangerous. This is ridiculous as we all know, because we cannot live without T3. T3 is the active hormone that needs to get into every cell in our body and brain to make all our organs function. They appear to believe that all we need is thyroxine. Levothyroxine is only one hormone (T4) and T4 is mainly inactive. It has to convert to T3 in the liver, kidneys and other thyroid hormone receptors throughout the body. The is a large minority of us who cannot convert for various reasons - and therefore we MUST be given some form of T3. The RCP have not backed up their guidance with references to evidence to show they are correct - we on the other hand, have cited hundreds of references to the RCP, BTA et al to show that the evidence is out there (and has been for over 40 years) to show that they are completely wrong - but they refuse to listen to us. The only way we can get to the bottom of this is to find the reason they are acting this way by taking this case to a court of law. You need to ask your local Pathology laboratory (write to the Chief) and ask him WHY they refuse to test FT3 if T4 and TSH are within the normal range. Is it because they too have been got at and told not to do it - is it because they are trying to save money. Your FT4 is probably high because it is floating around in your blood with nowhere to go b because it is not converting to the active T3. We don't know whether this is the case or not because we need to know where your Free T3 lies in the reference range. It is likely you have too low T3 and need to replace the T3 you are not making, but your GP has no right to 'guess'. I would get my Free T3 tested privately - we cannot these days rely on the NHS anymore - we have to look after ourselves. You can get this done through Lab 21 or Genova Diagnostics. Luv - Sheila From: thyroid treatment [mailto:thyroid treatment ] On Behalf Of racheladdison Sent: 23 September 2009 12:29 thyroid treatment Subject: Blood tests I have, for the first time, requested a copy of my latest blood test results. Apart from the receptionist asking why I wanted them, and telling me she was unsure if I was allowed them, there was no great problem in getting them. However, I specifically asked the GP for T3 as well as TSH and T4, and he said'yes yes its all in there', and I queried with the phlebotomist, who told me I didn't get T3, so wrote it on the form by hand while I was present, and strange to say T3 is not on the form. According to the result I am now officially thyrotoxic, as I have NO TSH at all, and T4 is high. (31.5). However I currently at least feel human, and am not losing weight, do not have high BP, or racing pulse,etc. Why do they not check T3, or is it just not reported? when it has been requested. I am now waiting for my GP to reduce my dose..... and will feel grotty again I suppose. Sorry for the rant. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.112/2390 - Release Date: 09/23/09 05:52:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 From: Sharon son <sprog1967@...>Subject: blood teststhyroid treatment Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 6:46 PM Hi Everyone, I want my son [he's 20] to have a load of blood tests done,but am unsure what tests will be sufficient.He's always tired and sleeps a lot and had a long spell of what I suspected to be M E several years ago.His diet is all over the place and he smokes and drinks.He is underweight and only about 5"3in tall and is cold all the time.His dad has haemachromotisis,so thats one thing to get tested for and was going to send him for the suggested blood tests in the files.He gets colds a lot and gets a lot of pain in the centre of his tummy round about the belly button area.He had quite a bit to drink on a night out last friday and was very sick and now looks a bit yellow and has dark rings round his eyes.I expect people will say thats cos he drank too much,but its more as if his body is too 'tired and sick ' to cope with any stress.I would appreciate it if anyone could suggest any blood tests apart from the normal ones to ask from the forum files,I thought maybe a full liver screen amongst others.Any suggestions? Best wishes sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 Hi Sharon, This is a difficult age to be unwell, I'm sure the drinking and smoking are both to be like his mates and to try to forget his ills for a while. Lads that age tend not to be very cooperative either ( mine wasn't!!). all you can do re diet if he lives at home is to just put a healthy plateful in front of him and hope! It's amazing how much minced veg you can hide in pasta sauce!! The skin colour and eyes could be liver or kidney- try a look at wikipedia? I used to get colds all the time, but since I got adrenals sorted ( along with thyroid)- am now nearly off adrenal support- I no longer seem to get all the colds in the area even sleeping with my OH while he sniffs, sneezes, blows and coughs all night for the past 3 weeks I'm still fine. thyroid treatment From: sprog1967@...Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:46:30 -0800Subject: blood tests Hi Everyone, I want my son [he's 20] to have a load of blood tests done,but am unsure what tests will be sufficient.He's always tired and sleeps a lot and had a long spell of what I suspected to be M E several years ago.His diet is all over the place and he smokes and drinks.He is underweight and only about 5"3in tall and is cold all the time.His dad has haemachromotisis,so thats one thing to get tested for and was going to send him for the suggested blood tests in the files.He gets colds a lot and gets a lot of pain in the centre of his tummy round about the belly button area.He had quite a bit to drink on a night out last friday and was very sick and now looks a bit yellow and has dark rings round his eyes.I expect people will say thats cos he drank too much,but its more as if his body is too 'tired and sick ' to cope with any stress.I would appreciate it if anyone could suggest any blood tests apart from the normal ones to ask from the forum files,I thought maybe a full liver screen amongst others.Any suggestions? Best wishes sharon Add other email accounts to Hotmail in 3 easy steps. Find out how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Hi all,Got my results from blood test today. If anyone has any comment I would appreciate it!I'll do my own research again. Should have saved it from last time, duh!Compared to 2 months ago, my White Bld Cell count is 5.6, down from 6.57, but within normal range. Lymphocytes: 0.32, down from 0.42, a teeny lower than then and within normal Monocytes: 0.07, higher than then (0.05), and .01 over normalSegmenters 0.61, as opposed to 0.43 then, within normalRed Bld Cell Ct: 4.21, a little low Hemoglobin: 129, down from 138 then, below normal (141-181)Hematocrit: 0.43, up from 0.415 then, and a little lower than normalMCV 102.4, a little high, no reading thenMCH 30.6, within normal, no reading then MCHC 299, some lower than normal, not listed then eitherPlatelet Count: 203, was 206 2 months ago, within normalCreatinine: 113.90 (1.29 conventional) and was 79.56 (0.9 conv.) then. Is that good?SGPT 21.26, within normal. That was all she asked for. Not anything on the liver, alas!Any thoughts are welcome, good or bad.Thanks much!!!!!!!!!!Rod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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