Guest guest Posted June 17, 2000 Report Share Posted June 17, 2000 In a message dated 06/17/2000 6:59:02 AM Central Daylight Time, shammahs.bean.field@... writes: << I know this may be off topic, however, I would like know if anybody's knows > what a coffee enema consists of. Is it just brewed coffee?? > > If anybody has information, let me know. > > Thank in advance. > > DAN! > >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Yes, three tablespoons in 1 qt water. Boil 3 min then simmer with lid on 15 min. strain and add enough water to make qt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2000 Report Share Posted October 30, 2000 coffee enemas after liver cleanse > Does anyone have any specific information on coffee enemas to clean out toxins stored in the liver? What temperature? ======== Body temp. How long do I have to hold the liquid? ======== Dr Gerson recommends 15 minutes How much coffee? ======== Ideally one litre How many a day/week is suggested? ======== Dr Gerson has cancer patients do several a day. Tailer to personal condition. Get the Gerson book, " Fifty Cases.... " ... get full title from the Gerson web site, search under " gerson therapy. " Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2000 Report Share Posted December 3, 2000 Hello List.. To, Saul Pressman I've read your very impressive book. I have a question about the real possibility of coffee entering the blood stream via the colon tissue. People with atrial fibrillation can not ingest caffeine! I see nothing in your book that speaks of answering this question. Thanks Larry =+ http://Community.webtv.net/Library-Info-/FluColdCure Believing Will Get You There... =+ http://community.webtv.net/MOLECULARROCK/NEWVOTINGSYSTEM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2000 Report Share Posted December 5, 2000 Dear Larry, I don't see what could prevent it. The Gerson clinic is the expert opinion in the field. Contact them and ask. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh Re: Coffee enemas > Hello Saul > > I was hoping to get an answer to my question about coffee enemas - witch > is, can the caffeine inter into the blood stream via the colon ? > > Best of Health > > Larry > > Believing Will Get You There... > =+ > http://community.webtv.net/MOLECULARROCK/NEWVOTINGSYSTEM > http://community.webtv.net/Legal-Pages-/doc > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2001 Report Share Posted April 30, 2001 Peggy, There are a number of holistic types that recommend coffee enemas for liver detoxification. A couple things to remember. Coffee will pull potassium out of the body. I have read of at least one person that had died from excessive potassium loss due to overdoing it with coffee enemas. Also, coffee will leave the colon environment in a slightly alkaline condition. The colon is, or should be, slightly acidic. Acidophilous resides primarily in the colon and as the name implies, it loves acid. Do not do back to back coffee enemas and do not retain longer than the recommended 20 minutes, really screws up the electrolyte levels (speaking from personal experience here). I don't want to scare you off from doing your own experimentation with it. Take it easy and you have nothing to worry about. You may want to discuss it with your doctor, assuming he is open to alternative health options. Rather than go with canned coffee, buy whole beans and grind them yourself in a blender. All the best, Jim clements@... Fibromyalgia: A Hypothesis of Etiology http://www.xmission.com/~total/temple/index.html > Has anyone used coffee enemas for liver detoxification? Specifically, > utilizing the Gerson protocol or any other? I would be interested to know if > anyone found these helpful, what method you used, etc. > > Peggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2001 Report Share Posted April 30, 2001 Peggy I have used the coffee enemas. Have they helped? I have no idea. I don't really feel different after anything I try. The theory behind them sounds good in that detoxifying the liver should help. I don't do them much as of all the time preparation involved. Phil > Has anyone used coffee enemas for liver detoxification? Specifically, > utilizing the Gerson protocol or any other? I would be interested to know if > anyone found these helpful, what method you used, etc. > > Peggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2001 Report Share Posted July 21, 2001 I do these all the time..it is easy: BASIC DIRECTIONS (1) Boil 1 quart/1 liter water, with 3 rounded tablespoons of freshly ground coffee. Use only filtered, purified or distilled water, not tap water. Do not use a coffee maker. Use only organically grown, non-decaffeinated coffee beans. Store coffee beans in the freezer to retain freshness. (2) Allow coffee to boil for 5-15 min, to evaporate the oils. (3) Let cool to body temp. (4) Strain, using a fine-mesh stainless steel tea strainer(it looks like screen wire) to strain out the grounds, leaving the " silt " . Since many of the beneficial elements for detoxification in the coffee are fiber-bound, it isn't a good idea to use a paper strainer, or even a cloth,unless it's got a fairly coarse weave. (5) Filtered water may be added back to make one full quart. Using an enema bag, insert coffee mixture into rectum. Lie on your right side for 15 min with knees toward your chest, breathing deeply. (6) Evacuate bowels. Patty coffee enemas > I am going to be doing my first ever liver cleanse today and tomorrow, > and I see from a previous posting that Dr. P recommends that it be > followed by one or more coffee enemas. From the Gerson website I > see that apparently the coffee should be prepared in a certain way: > > " One needs to follow the " enema recipe " in order to simmer > off the volatile oils and then strain through a tea strainer to > allow the sediment to pass through. The sediment holds > additional palmitates, an essential component, which is > ultimately enhancing in the removal of many toxic radicals > from the blood. " > > Can someone please provide instruction on preparation of the coffee?? > > Thanks, > Dave > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2001 Report Share Posted July 21, 2001 Dear Patty, Thanks for that 'recipe'. I am curious as to the reason for lying on the right side. The sigmoid colon goes up and to the left side. In order not to have the colon shift towards the center, and possibly close the intestine off, I was told to always lie on the left side. Do you have contrary info? Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH --------------------------------------------------- From: " Patty " <faussettdp@...> Reply-oxyplus <oxyplus > Subject: Re: coffee enemas Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 11:14:57 -0700 I do these all the time..it is easy: BASIC DIRECTIONS (1) Boil 1 quart/1 liter water, with 3 rounded tablespoons of freshly ground coffee. Use only filtered, purified or distilled water, not tap water. Do not use a coffee maker. Use only organically grown, non-decaffeinated coffee beans. Store coffee beans in the freezer to retain freshness. (2) Allow coffee to boil for 5-15 min, to evaporate the oils. (3) Let cool to body temp. (4) Strain, using a fine-mesh stainless steel tea strainer(it looks like screen wire) to strain out the grounds, leaving the " silt " . Since many of the beneficial elements for detoxification in the coffee are fiber-bound, it isn't a good idea to use a paper strainer, or even a cloth, unless it's got a fairly coarse weave. (5) Filtered water may be added back to make one full quart. Using an enema bag, insert coffee mixture into rectum. Lie on your right side for 15 min with knees toward your chest, breathing deeply. (6) Evacuate bowels. Patty _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2001 Report Share Posted July 23, 2001 Dr. Pressman, This question is on the Gerson site: http://www.gerson.com/questions/answer/properposition.htm What is the proper position to use while taking an enema? There is some controversy about the best position for taking an enema, as conventional protocol is backwards from Dr. Gerson's instructions. Most doctors and nurses are taught to have the patient lie on the left side while taking their enema. Dr. Gerson insisted that the best position was for the patient to lie on their right side, legs comfortably pulled up, relaxed, and breathing deeply. Lying on the right side allowed gravity to assist in passing the coffee flow past the descending colon, just around the " corner " of the splenic flexure and into the transverse colon for higher penetration and better release of toxic wastes. Patty Re: coffee enemas > Dear Patty, > > Thanks for that 'recipe'. > > I am curious as to the reason for lying on the right side. > > The sigmoid colon goes up and to the left side. In order not to have the > colon shift towards the center, and possibly close the intestine off, I was > told to always lie on the left side. > > Do you have contrary info? > > Best of Health! > Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2001 Report Share Posted July 23, 2001 Dr. Pressman, This question is on the Gerson site: http://www.gerson.com/questions/answer/properposition.htm What is the proper position to use while taking an enema? There is some controversy about the best position for taking an enema, as conventional protocol is backwards from Dr. Gerson's instructions. Most doctors and nurses are taught to have the patient lie on the left side while taking their enema. Dr. Gerson insisted that the best position was for the patient to lie on their right side, legs comfortably pulled up, relaxed, and breathing deeply. Lying on the right side allowed gravity to assist in passing the coffee flow past the descending colon, just around the " corner " of the splenic flexure and into the transverse colon for higher penetration and better release of toxic wastes. Patty Re: coffee enemas > Dear Patty, > > Thanks for that 'recipe'. > > I am curious as to the reason for lying on the right side. > > The sigmoid colon goes up and to the left side. In order not to have the > colon shift towards the center, and possibly close the intestine off, I was > told to always lie on the left side. > > Do you have contrary info? > > Best of Health! > Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2001 Report Share Posted July 23, 2001 Dr. Pressman, This question is on the Gerson site: http://www.gerson.com/questions/answer/properposition.htm What is the proper position to use while taking an enema? There is some controversy about the best position for taking an enema, as conventional protocol is backwards from Dr. Gerson's instructions. Most doctors and nurses are taught to have the patient lie on the left side while taking their enema. Dr. Gerson insisted that the best position was for the patient to lie on their right side, legs comfortably pulled up, relaxed, and breathing deeply. Lying on the right side allowed gravity to assist in passing the coffee flow past the descending colon, just around the " corner " of the splenic flexure and into the transverse colon for higher penetration and better release of toxic wastes. Patty Re: coffee enemas > Dear Patty, > > Thanks for that 'recipe'. > > I am curious as to the reason for lying on the right side. > > The sigmoid colon goes up and to the left side. In order not to have the > colon shift towards the center, and possibly close the intestine off, I was > told to always lie on the left side. > > Do you have contrary info? > > Best of Health! > Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 Mike, Coffee enemas are " brew it yourself. " There is more information about them at the Gerson Institute website -- www.gerson.org. Peggy In a message dated 3/2/02 10:33:56 AM, writes: << Subject: Re:Marsha-Coffee enema I am a little confused re coffee enemas. Can you buy them somewhere or do you have to brew your own coffee and figure out how to administer it on your own? Sorry if this has been covered before but I have changed ISPs and haven't been keeping up. Mike >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 Thanks, Peggy. The Gerson therapy looks like something I want to pursue. Could someone tell me though, exactly what do you do to do a coffee enema, i couldn't find the info at Gerson.org. Do you dilute it or just brew it and " inject " it? Thanks, Mike > Mike, > > Coffee enemas are " brew it yourself. " There is more information about them > at the Gerson Institute website -- www.gerson.org. > > Peggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2004 Report Share Posted September 25, 2004 Wouldn't an oil and lemon juice gall bladder purge be a simpler way to clear the gall bladder of gall stones and bile? Zlad coffee enemas Hi all, I urge everyone for coffee enemas,especially the ones with high toxicity or liver gall bladder problems. I am having great benefits with it.It is even good if you get a cold.(helps by decreasing the toxic load so that your body can handle other toxins).The aim is using it as liver support not for bowel emptying.Only sigmoid part of the colon needs to be filled for that purpose. About 2 cups of solution per practice is fine.One should lie on right side not move much not to move the solution to small intestines.(That is the way I read and it works fine with me) . If it moves into small intestines you get stimulated and there is no need for that. Just stimulating the liver so that toxic bile dump is initiated.2 times 2 cups of solution is fine.One may start with one tablespoon of coffee and increase the dosage until emptying of gall bladder is felt while lying down. You also see some dark green residues in toilet after the procedure which I believe are toxic bile.If you feel stimulated that means you have either used too much coffee or solution passed to small intestines.I boil the coffee water solution for about 2 to 5 minutes and let it cool down.Solution should not be too warm. Just at body temperature or cooler. Intestines are sensitive to high temperatures. Just wished to share. p.s. I may not be able to answer my posts.. best regards. Nil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 Thanks for pointing that out. I use that,too, but there are some differances. I somehow found it easier to do.Felt much better in some ways. Hard to explain.Coffee enema also stimulates intestines and helps to get some of the debris out.It could be why I felt good afterwards.I think both are helpful. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 Nil, Do you have to clean out the entire large bowel(colon) before you do the coffee? Regards, Don On Saturday, September 25, 2004, at 07:37 AM, Yldyz wrote: > Hi all, > > I urge everyone for coffee enemas,especially the ones with high > toxicity or liver gall bladder problems. I am having great benefits > with it.It is even good if you get a cold.(helps by decreasing the > toxic load so that your body can handle other toxins).The aim is using > it as liver support not for bowel emptying.Only sigmoid part of the > colon needs to be filled for that purpose. About 2 cups of solution > per practice is fine.One should lie on right side not move much not to > move the solution to small intestines.(That is the way I read and it > works fine with me) . If it moves into small intestines you get > stimulated and there is no need for that. Just stimulating the liver > so that toxic bile dump is initiated.2 times 2 cups of solution is > fine.One may start with one tablespoon of coffee and increase the > dosage until emptying of gall bladder is felt while lying down. You > also see some dark green residues in toilet after the procedure which > I believe are toxic bile.If you feel stimulated that means you have > either used too much coffee or solution passed to small intestines.I > boil the coffee water solution for about 2 to 5 minutes and let it > cool down.Solution should not be too warm. Just at body temperature or > cooler. Intestines are sensitive to high temperatures. > Just wished to share. > > p.s. I may not be able to answer my posts.. > best regards. > Nil > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 Hi DOn, Sorry for late answer. I can not access my pc regularly. No,I don't think clean colon is needed. Best regards. Nil > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 With coffee enemas, some caffeine would be absorbed through the intestines. You wouldn't have to get a caffeine " buzz " to have enough to create adrenal problems. Caffeine in any amount can be risky for adrenal function, and I would think it would be risky for those of us with thyroid issues. Some people are affected by it more than others. See " Caffeine Blues: Wake up to the Hidden Dangers of America's #1 Drug, " by Cherniske, http://www.amazon.com/Caffeine-Blues- Hidden-Dangers-Americas/dp/0446673919/ref=sr_1_1? ie=UTF8 & s=books & qid=1224795985 & sr=8-1 It's possible to cleanse the colon without coffee enemas. High doses of magnesium will do it. So will high doses of vitamin C (to bowel tolerance). Ingesting small amounts of castor oil will also do it. And gentle herbal products like Triphala can help keep the bowels cleared without resorting to coffee enemas. Barbara I don't think enough gets in to the blood stream from what I have read to make a difference. They don't bother me. I do not get a " buzz " from them at all. Steph Re: Iodomere> Hello, you mention coffee enemas, I did them for years when I did the Gerson Therapy. I have heard some say they can deplete the adrenals, has anyone ever heard that this can happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 As with everything you have to decide what is best for yourself. There are things that coffee enemas do that are not accomplished with other methods of flushing the colon. I have used this when my adrenals were struggling with no issues. I think like anything you will get pros and cons of utilizing the protocol. Re: Coffee Enemas > With coffee enemas, some caffeine would be absorbed through the > intestines. You wouldn't have to get a caffeine " buzz " to have enough > to create adrenal problems. Caffeine in any amount can be risky for > adrenal function, and I would think it would be risky for those of us > with thyroid issues. Some people are affected by it more than others. > See " Caffeine Blues: Wake up to the Hidden Dangers of America's #1 > Drug, " by Cherniske, http://www.amazon.com/Caffeine-Blues- > Hidden-Dangers-Americas/dp/0446673919/ref=sr_1_1? > ie=UTF8 & s=books & qid=1224795985 & sr=8-1 > > It's possible to cleanse the colon without coffee enemas. High doses > of magnesium will do it. So will high doses of vitamin C (to bowel > tolerance). Ingesting small amounts of castor oil will also do it. > And gentle herbal products like Triphala can help keep the bowels > cleared without resorting to coffee enemas. > > Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 Coffee enemas are not for cleansing the colon, although they do that to. How they work is, the caffeine is absorbed thru the portal vein to the liver, the liver immediately then starts to dump toxins. They were added to Dr Max Gersons Cancer therapy in the 1940's when he realized he was losing cancer patients, not from cancer, but from the cancer breaking down so fast that the body couldn’t not keep up with getting rid of those toxins. The coffee enemas are a time old remedy for helping the liver cleanse. However, I do wonder if they are done long enough , what effect if any they would have on the adrenals; perhaps none at all, I am just not sure. Kathleen Re: Iodomere> Hello, you mention coffee enemas, I did them for years when I did the Gerson Therapy. I have heard some say they can deplete the adrenals, has anyone ever heard that this can happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 Thank you for adding that Kathleen. I do mine for my liver issues. I have been feeling like there is a tennis ball under my rib cage. I did the coffee enema and the feeling is gone. Ever since RAI my liver cops an attitude and doesn't keep moving. Steph Re: Iodomere> Hello, you mention coffee enemas, I did them for years when I did the Gerson Therapy. I have heard some say they can deplete the adrenals, has anyone ever heard that this can happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 Hulda e's liver cleanse works well without the potential complications of flooding the system with caffeine. See http://www.curezone.com/cleanse/liver/huldas_recipe.asp. I've done these cleanses a number of times with good results. Personally I would never do a coffee enema myself, because of the potential risks from the caffeine exposure. I think there's too much " flogging the adrenals " involved. But as says, everyone has to find what works for them. Barbara > > I don't think enough gets in to the blood stream from what I have read > to make a difference. They don't bother me. I do not get a " buzz " > from them at all. > > Steph > Re: Iodomere> > > Hello, you mention coffee enemas, I did them for years when I did the > Gerson Therapy. I have heard some say they can deplete the adrenals, > has anyone ever heard that this can happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 I get a " tennis ball under my rib cage " feeling on the left side, where it would be spleen enlargement. (Right side would be liver, and I've never had it on that side.) When that happens, I skip iodine for a few days and it goes away. I assume it is related to too rapidly detoxifying in a way that affects my spleen more than the liver. Barbara > > I don't think enough gets in to the blood stream from what I have read > to make a difference. They don't bother me. I do not get a " buzz " > from them at all. > > Steph > Re: Iodomere> > > Hello, you mention coffee enemas, I did them for years when I did the > Gerson Therapy. I have heard some say they can deplete the adrenals, > has anyone ever heard that this can happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 Do you mean taking it orally? I thought the idea of the enema was to clear out the liver not just to clean out the bowels. On Oct 23, 2008, at 2:15 PM, brittenb wrote: It's possible to cleanse the colon without coffee enemas. High doses of magnesium will do it. So will high doses of vitamin C (to bowel tolerance). Ingesting small amounts of castor oil will also do it. And gentle herbal products like Triphala can help keep the bowels cleared without resorting to coffee enemas. Parashis artpages@... artpagesonline.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 I need to know, Why would you do a coffee enema? Its bad enough with water???? How many times a day do you do this? Is it coffee made of water? or coffee grounds/Beans? I am Dead serious, I need to know, maybe I would benefit from this, Re: Iodomere> > > Hello, you mention coffee enemas, I did them for years when I did the > Gerson Therapy. I have heard some say they can deplete the adrenals, > has anyone ever heard that this can happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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