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> Any advice welcome, what about gold fillings etc...

I think gold will still act as an antenna for EMFs, and

will still contribute to problems. I had the gold in

my mouth removed, along with the mercury...

Composite fillings and crowns I think are the way to go.

Marc

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If you use composites I would go for the one that is cured with

UV light. Less BPA exposure.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Marc <marc@...> wrote:

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>

> > Any advice welcome, what about gold fillings etc...

>

> I think gold will still act as an antenna for EMFs, and

> will still contribute to problems. I had the gold in

> my mouth removed, along with the mercury...

>

> Composite fillings and crowns I think are the way to go.

>

> Marc

>

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Hi, ,

 

I SO know your dilemma!  I am currently on what seems to be permanent hold,

waiting for new filling materials to be invented.  I don't do well with the

current composites and I won't get any of the metal fillings.  Also some of my

teeth cannot be pulled due to their roots being wrapped in nerves.  I have no

real advice, but can just give you a bit of an idea of what to do till you

figure it out, .  lol 

 

I have looked (Googled) into how to re-enamel my teeth naturally.  (Won't

necessarily work, but I have lived for the last decade with honking huge holes

and not been bothered with pain, so it is at least doing something!  lol ) 

First try an enameling toothpaste.  I have read that " Pro-enamel " is a good

one.  (I am not currently using it, so don't know the gf status if any are

wondering that.  But I think I did read on the cd forum that it was.)  Also

eat ALOT of greens--lettuces and veggies with chlorophyl are good for rebuilding

enamel.

 

Also, do a great job brushing and flossing.  I also do  " oil pulling " --that is

where you swish and gargle an oil (I use safflower or sunflower oil) in your

mouth for 20 mins or so.  You can check this out on a home remedy site such

as  www.curezone.com  Actually, I have it saved from here:

 

http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/oil_pulling.html

 

 It takes huge resolve to do this, by the way--you want to gag somewhere

around 5 mins when you first start this program.  Oil pulling acts on the

principle that toxins are attracted to fats.  You really do not want to swallow

any of this oil during the 20 mins.  (I do this while I take my shower, or

while I am on my treadmill.)  Spit it out well *remember this is toxic and spit

it where it will not contaminate anything*, then swish and gargle again with

salt water and spit that out.  Brush your teeth (I often brush with oregano oil

diluted with a few drops of olive oil) and gargle with a good antiseptic

mouthwash.  Then, once a day I dip my brush into a small amount of food grade

hydrogen peroxide and brush with that.  I then clean my brush by cleaning it

in peroxide .  Sounds like alot of work, I know.  Takes only about 5 mins

once you get the hang of it, not counting the oil pulling.  This regimen was

recommended by Weil a

long time ago in one of his newsletters.

 

Hope all is well on the mold front, btw. 

Take care,

Diane

From: paulpjc@... <paulpjc@...>

Subject: TEETH

Date: Monday, January 11, 2010, 7:54 AM

 

Just lately at least 3 of my old plastic fillings plus 1 metal have fallen

out, I am left with the dillema of wether to benefit from free traetment as

I am on unemployment allowance or pay private fees- heres the catch -

The free work will give me metal filling and the quote for non metal ie

plastic composite fillings and porcelain caps amounts to £2000 ! Any advice

welcome, what about gold fillings etc...

help

uk PUK

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antiseptic mouthwash. Then, once a day I dip my brush into a small amount

of food grade hydrogen peroxide and brush with that. I then clean my

brush by cleaning it in peroxide . Sounds like alot of work, I know. Takes

only about 5 mins once you get the hang of it, not counting the oil pulling.

This regimen was recommended by Weil a

long time ago in one of his newsletters.

Hope all is well on the mold front, btw.

Take care,

Diane

Puk replies - so kind , heaps of thanks - On another related note does

anyone here suffer from Bruxism ie teeth grinding, it is possible that due to

the stress of enduring radiation poisoning from the Plasma TV in the

vicinity that I have begun to teeth grind at night or perhaps in my case teeth

clench, anger stress and so on. the situation is the apitomy of stressfull as

it seems so out of my control, and that at the flick of a switch my

wellbeing is slowly dismantled - p

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Hi and Diane

 

I know exactly what you are on about - I am in the same boat too - I saw my

NHS dentist in November and need two large fillings done, but she will do them

in metal and even if I ask her to do them in porcelain she won't do it

holistically with a special dam to avoid the mercury going down my throat

etc. There is a dentist about 50 miles away who would do the holistic work, but

I can't get to her at the minute and in the meantime I am trying to keep

postponing my normal dentist just so that I can keep my NHS status - its a

nightmare.

 

The bottom line for me is that I have 2 big root canals one of which was

badly done about 15 years ago and when I am near a computer or wifi or people's

cell phones I get dreadful throat pain on that side of my mouth and neck - so

I'm thinking that isn't co-incidental - it is highly likely that mercury is

leaking out of those root filled teeth into the jawbone and surrounding tissue

and I want to have these teeth removed. This is music that has to be faced [i'm

a dreadful baby about the dentist!!!]

 

But in the meantime Diane's advice is brilliant - I had really EMF sensitive

 teeth at the start of last year and used the pro-enamel paste [pricey] and it

did a great job - knocked it on the head so it is worth a go - and I had read I

think on Mercola's site about the oil swilling [i think he recommended extra

virgin coconut oil] so I am going to give it a try too but don't fancy it much

and didn't realise you had to do it for 20 minutes.Oh man!!

 

Let me know how you get on with the teeth - it is hard not to think in my case

that the amalgam fillings are linked to my ill health and the ES.

 

all the best

 

Steph

From: paulpjcaol (DOT) com <paulpjcaol (DOT) com>

Subject: TEETH

groups (DOT) com

Date: Monday, January 11, 2010, 7:54 AM

 

Just lately at least 3 of my old plastic fillings plus 1 metal have fallen

out, I am left with the dillema of wether to benefit from free traetment as

I am on unemployment allowance or pay private fees- heres the catch -

The free work will give me metal filling and the quote for non metal ie

plastic composite fillings and porcelain caps amounts to £2000 ! Any advice

welcome, what about gold fillings etc...

help

uk PUK

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Hi,

There is an enamel on toothpaste called Oravive that is fluoride free:

oravie.com

The pressure you get going into your neck is likely from the lymph being impeded

from the root canals. It's not uncommon, plus the gutta percha they pack the

canal with is never tight enough to prevent bacteria in there.

The emf fields seem to change the barometric pressure in your body - whether

your jaw there, or sinus, or brain, etc.

Getting them out is probably the only relief on that part.

~ Snoshoe

>

> Hi and Diane

>  

> I know exactly what you are on about - I am in the same boat too - I saw

my NHS dentist in November and need two large fillings done, but she will do

them in metal and even if I ask her to do them in porcelain she won't do it

holistically with a special dam to avoid the mercury going down my throat

etc. There is a dentist about 50 miles away who would do the holistic work, but

I can't get to her at the minute and in the meantime I am trying to keep

postponing my normal dentist just so that I can keep my NHS status - its a

nightmare.

>  

> The bottom line for me is that I have 2 big root canals one of which was

badly done about 15 years ago and when I am near a computer or wifi or people's

cell phones I get dreadful throat pain on that side of my mouth and neck - so

I'm thinking that isn't co-incidental - it is highly likely that mercury is

leaking out of those root filled teeth into the jawbone and surrounding tissue

and I want to have these teeth removed. This is music that has to be faced [i'm

a dreadful baby about the dentist!!!]

>  

> But in the meantime Diane's advice is brilliant - I had really EMF sensitive

 teeth at the start of last year and used the pro-enamel paste [pricey] and it

did a great job - knocked it on the head so it is worth a go - and I had read I

think on Mercola's site about the oil swilling [i think he recommended extra

virgin coconut oil] so I am going to give it a try too but don't fancy it much

and didn't realise you had to do it for 20 minutes.Oh man!!

>  

> Let me know how you get on with the teeth - it is hard not to think in my case

that the amalgam fillings are linked to my ill health and the ES.

>  

> all the best

>  

> Steph

>

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When I saw the endo he said my lymph glands were swollen. He suggested that

there could be something else going on. Ya know, they don't much believe in

reactions.

 

So you don't believe the gutta percha  with the filling material over it keeps

the bacteria out.

 

Root Canals are just nightmares. Loni 

 

From: snoshoe_2 <snoshoe_2@...>

Subject: Re: TEETH

Date: Saturday, February 20, 2010, 1:10 PM

 

Hi,

There is an enamel on toothpaste called Oravive that is fluoride free:

oravie.com

The pressure you get going into your neck is likely from the lymph being impeded

from the root canals. It's not uncommon, plus the gutta percha they pack the

canal with is never tight enough to prevent bacteria in there.

The emf fields seem to change the barometric pressure in your body - whether

your jaw there, or sinus, or brain, etc.

Getting them out is probably the only relief on that part.

~ Snoshoe

>

> Hi and Diane

>  

> I know exactly what you are on about - I am in the same boat too - I saw

my NHS dentist in November and need two large fillings done, but she will do

them in metal and even if I ask her to do them in porcelain she won't do it

holistically with a special dam to avoid the mercury going down my throat

etc. There is a dentist about 50 miles away who would do the holistic work,

but I can't get to her at the minute and in the meantime I am trying to

keep postponing my normal dentist just so that I can keep my NHS status

- its a nightmare.

>  

> The bottom line for me is that I have 2 big root canals one of which

was badly done about 15 years ago and when I am near a computer or wifi or

people's cell phones I get dreadful throat pain on that side of my mouth and

neck - so I'm thinking that isn't co-incidental - it is highly likely that

mercury is leaking out of those root filled teeth into the jawbone and

surrounding tissue and I want to have these teeth removed. This is music that

has to be faced [i'm a dreadful baby about the dentist!!!]

>  

> But in the meantime Diane's advice is brilliant - I had really EMF sensitive

 teeth at the start of last year and used the pro-enamel paste [pricey] and

it did a great job - knocked it on the head so it is worth a go - and I had read

I think on Mercola's site about the oil swilling [i think he recommended extra

virgin coconut oil] so I am going to give it a try too but don't fancy it much

and didn't realise you had to do it for 20 minutes.Oh man!!

>  

> Let me know how you get on with the teeth - it is hard not to think in my case

that the amalgam fillings are linked to my ill health and the ES.

>  

> all the best

>  

> Steph

>

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" great job - knocked it on the head so it is worth a go - and I had read I

think on Mercola's site about the oil swilling [i think he recommended extra

virgin coconut oil] so I am going to give it a try too but don't fancy it much

and didn't realise you had to do it for 20 minutes.Oh man!! "

Hi all

Does anyone know if other oils would do the job?

thanks

cindi

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I think this post didn't go through a couple hours ago as I was getting kicked

offline:

Hi Loni,

Nope, it doesn't seal. Here's some links and snips about it. The last one may be

an alternative for some of you needing nasty dental work.

Formaldehyde, lovely

Root Canal Cover-Up

Dr. Meinig found that the material gutta-percha, the most widely used root

filling, a rubbery-like substance that packs more easily if it is somewhat

warmed. However, when it cools and sets for a few days, shrinkage takes place.

It is this expansion and contraction of the gutta-percha that causes a lot of

the problems with infections....

http://www.life-enthusiast.com/index/Education/Dentistry/Root_Canal_Cover-Up

-----

75% of root canals have bacterial infections, (I have read all, and from reading

on it, I tend to agree with that.)

A " root canal " allows a patient to keep a dead tooth in his or her mouth. The

fallacy with this concept is that the body doesn't like dead things in it and

will try, sometimes desperately, to get rid of the dead thing. Notwithstanding,

the fact that it may be " handy " to save a tooth for " dental convenience " , it

does not change the fact that root canal treatments can devastate the human

immune system.

Gutta-percha endodontic filling points were found to contain approximately 20%

gutta-percha (matrix), 66% zinc oxide (filler), 11% heavy metal sulfates

(radiopacifier), and 3% waxes and/or resins (plasticizer).

All conventional root canals still do employ toxic substances to sterilize the

interior of the tooth, such as eugenol (oil of clove) and formocresol

(formaldehyde-creosote).

In the 1950s. Reinhold Voll, a German M.D., using an electro-acupuncture

biofeedback system he had developed, discovered that each tooth in the mouth

relates to a specific acupuncture meridian.

When you have a root canal, or even a big filling, or crown or anything that is

not compatible with the body, it sets up an interference field, blocking or

altering the energy meridian passing through it. It will affect different parts

along that meridian, different organ systems in the body. And usually will cause

it to have a problem as well.

If the tooth is removed, the energy does tend to pass through it. However,

without the tooth in the bone, it is still altered. (Too bad on that, but I'm

still happier w/o teeth than metal, xenoestrogens, root canal, cracked and

fluorosed teeth in, lol.)

Without stimulation from a tooth, blood circulation and lymphatic drainage will

be impaired, and the bone and tissue surrounding the extraction site can become

diseased and die. Infections in the teeth, and toxins, have no place to go but

down; down into the jaw bone and into the rest of the body, creating systemic

pathologies. ...

Of equal interest is the relationship of root filled teeth to traditional

Chinese medicine and body energies. ...

http://tuberose.com/Root_Canals.html

--------

There are many reasons why root canal treatments fail, but all of them involve

bacterial growth inside the tooth. ...

http://www.metrodentist.net/latest/why-do-root-canal-treatments-fail.html --

------

One dentist who wants the number of root canals performed to plummet rather than

rise is Dr. Hansen, D.M.D., Director of the Center for Advanced

Dentistry in Fullerton, California. Dr. Hansen is recognized as one of the

world's foremost experts on laser dentistry. The latest generation of laser

equipment and techniques affords people an option to avoid conventional root

canals, repair previously performed dental work, and prevent the need for root

canals in the future. ...

http://www.cdchealth.com/rootcanals.html

>

> When I saw the endo he said my lymph glands were swollen. He suggested that

there could be something else going on. Ya know, they don't much believe in

reactions.

>  

> So you don't believe the gutta percha  with the filling material over it

keeps the bacteria out.

>  

> Root Canals are just nightmares. Loni 

>  

>

>

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Hi, Cindi,

 

I do not use coconut oil.  Any oil will work, but it should not be an oil you

use often to cook with (which is why I did not choose coconut oil--I rather like

to eat some dishes with that in it).  I use safflower oil because I do not use

that one to cook with.  The thing with using an oil you cook with is you could

set up a sensitivity reaction at some point by oil pulling.  So I choose my

least favorite oil, knowing if that should happen, I will not have to give

up an oil I like.  Also, there is " memory " of use--the oil tastes bad while

pulling.  You don't want to eat your meals thinking about the taste of oil

pulling.

 

Good luck; I found oil-pulling a useful endeavor,

Diane

From: cindi <cindiwonderer@...>

Subject: Re: Re: TEETH

Date: Saturday, February 20, 2010, 5:18 PM

 

" great job - knocked it on the head so it is worth a go - and I had read I

think on Mercola's site about the oil swilling [i think he recommended extra

virgin coconut oil] so I am going to give it a try too but don't fancy it much

and didn't realise you had to do it for 20 minutes.Oh man!! "

Hi all

Does anyone know if other oils would do the job?

thanks

cindi

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Thanks so much Diane for your helpful insights.

cindi

Re: Re: TEETH

Hi, Cindi,

I do not use coconut oil. Any oil will work, but it should not be an oil you

use often to cook with (which is why I did not choose coconut oil--I rather like

to eat some dishes with that in it). I use safflower oil because I do not use

that one to cook with. The thing with using an oil you cook with is you could

set up a sensitivity reaction at some point by oil pulling. So I choose my least

favorite oil, knowing if that should happen, I will not have to give up an oil I

like. Also, there is " memory " of use--the oil tastes bad while pulling. You

don't want to eat your meals thinking about the taste of oil pulling.

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Hey thanks Snoshoe for all of this. Great info!  I am set to get this dang

tooth pulled on Wed. Can't wait to get this gutta percha/zinc oxide plus plastic

filling out of my mouth.

 

Loni

From: snoshoe_2 <snoshoe_2@...>

Subject: Re: TEETH

Date: Saturday, February 20, 2010, 3:49 PM

 

I think this post didn't go through a couple hours ago as I was getting kicked

offline:

Hi Loni,

Nope, it doesn't seal. Here's some links and snips about it. The last one may be

an alternative for some of you needing nasty dental work.

Formaldehyde, lovely

Root Canal Cover-Up

Dr. Meinig found that the material gutta-percha, the most widely used root

filling, a rubbery-like substance that packs more easily if it is somewhat

warmed. However, when it cools and sets for a few days, shrinkage takes place.

It is this expansion and contraction of the gutta-percha that causes a lot of

the problems with infections.. ..

http://www.life- enthusiast. com/index/ Education/ Dentistry/ Root_Canal_

Cover-Up

-----

75% of root canals have bacterial infections, (I have read all, and from reading

on it, I tend to agree with that.)

A " root canal " allows a patient to keep a dead tooth in his or her mouth. The

fallacy with this concept is that the body doesn't like dead things in it and

will try, sometimes desperately, to get rid of the dead thing. Notwithstanding,

the fact that it may be " handy " to save a tooth for " dental convenience " , it

does not change the fact that root canal treatments can devastate the human

immune system.

Gutta-percha endodontic filling points were found to contain approximately 20%

gutta-percha (matrix), 66% zinc oxide (filler), 11% heavy metal sulfates

(radiopacifier) , and 3% waxes and/or resins (plasticizer) .

All conventional root canals still do employ toxic substances to sterilize the

interior of the tooth, such as eugenol (oil of clove) and formocresol

(formaldehyde- creosote) .

In the 1950s. Reinhold Voll, a German M.D., using an electro-acupuncture

biofeedback system he had developed, discovered that each tooth in the mouth

relates to a specific acupuncture meridian.

When you have a root canal, or even a big filling, or crown or anything that is

not compatible with the body, it sets up an interference field, blocking or

altering the energy meridian passing through it. It will affect different parts

along that meridian, different organ systems in the body. And usually will cause

it to have a problem as well.

If the tooth is removed, the energy does tend to pass through it. However,

without the tooth in the bone, it is still altered. (Too bad on that, but I'm

still happier w/o teeth than metal, xenoestrogens, root canal, cracked and

fluorosed teeth in, lol.)

Without stimulation from a tooth, blood circulation and lymphatic drainage will

be impaired, and the bone and tissue surrounding the extraction site can become

diseased and die. Infections in the teeth, and toxins, have no place to go but

down; down into the jaw bone and into the rest of the body, creating systemic

pathologies. ...

Of equal interest is the relationship of root filled teeth to traditional

Chinese medicine and body energies. ...

http://tuberose. com/Root_ Canals.html

--------

There are many reasons why root canal treatments fail, but all of them involve

bacterial growth inside the tooth. ...

http://www.metroden tist.net/ latest/why- do-root-canal- treatments- fail.html

--

------

One dentist who wants the number of root canals performed to plummet rather than

rise is Dr. Hansen, D.M.D., Director of the Center for Advanced

Dentistry in Fullerton, California. Dr. Hansen is recognized as one of the

world's foremost experts on laser dentistry. The latest generation of laser

equipment and techniques affords people an option to avoid conventional root

canals, repair previously performed dental work, and prevent the need for root

canals in the future. ...

http://www.cdchealt h.com/rootcanals .html

>

> When I saw the endo he said my lymph glands were swollen. He suggested that

there could be something else going on. Ya know, they don't much believe in

reactions.

>  

> So you don't believe the gutta percha  with the filling material over it

keeps the bacteria out.

>  

> Root Canals are just nightmares. Loni 

>  

>

>

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Hey Stephani,

My husband is in much the same condition as . We brush my husband's teeth

twice a day with a Vac U Brush (model #VB3-001) which attaches to his suction

machine. We use regular toothpaste and brush his teeth and suction up the

residue with clear water, rinsing his teeth and tongue and roof of his mouth

with the vac u brush. We follow with a 6 week regiment of Peridex Oral Rinse

applied with a sponge through out his mouth. Then we switch to 6 weeks of an

Alcohol-free regular over the counter mouth wash as we don't want to mess with

the bacteria that is good for the mouth. Wayne visits our regular dentist every

6 months for a cleaning and check up. Prior to the HBOT we were using a bite

block to assist the hygenist with helping to keep Wayne's mouth open as he used

to be highly toned and resisted opening his mouth. Post HBOT Wayne has been

able to tolerate the cleanings well and keeps his mouth open for the cleaning.

Wayne can swallow as well but it does not come easy.

You can contact P R Medical, Inc. (970)875-1082) PO BOX 776414 Steamboat

Springs, CO 80477 for the Vac u brushes.

God Bless you and and your family. I pray for you often , you

and I are in a class of our own. I pray for your strength and perserverence. I

pray for our husbands and for their healing and for the dignity, respect and

care they deserve as human beings. Thank you for being an example of love to

others.

medicaid

From: stephanividrine@...

Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 08:32:19 -0700

Subject: [ ] teeth

YES I have asked his dentist to start him on antibiotics before doing the

procedure because I worry he will have an infection and we will end up going to

the hospital. The dentist we found that would see and accept our

insurance, we have already met with him for an evaluation. he is 5.5 hours away

from us we will have to stay at a hotel for 2 nights in july and hopefully it

goes along smoothly.. When he first came home all they told us was to use a

sponge and hydrogen peroxide to clean the teeth he was semi conusious i did that

and it continued to get worse so it was just overwhelming, but that was before

he could swallow and he is so much more alert now i cant wait to get them

cleaned i know he will feel so much better .. we gotta run off to therapy n will

check emails this afternoon- stephani

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Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 10:21:35 AM

Subject: Re: [sPAM] Re: [ ] Brain doctor

I don't blame you and tradazone will loose its effectiveness and most people

need to increase the dose or use it sparingly..

my brother in law is vp of Lilly and this is all that they have to offer.

but I always say the mouth is the end of the GI system.. a good cleaning

including the tongue will help him. I am treating a dental hygen's son, she

tells me that antiboitics need to be on board during these types of cleaning

because of the bacteria could enter the heart.

God bless the children I hope he feels better

[ ] Brain doctor

Hello all, hope this email finds yall well. I have a question or two,

has since started therapy as outpatient and they want him on this drug that

stops the drooling. I was concerend because the doctor a Physiatrist that

wrote the prescription has never even seen at all how can a doctor

write a drug prescription with out seeing the patient, and the side effect

of the drug??? can swallow (it is just his teeth are bad dentition and

gingiva causing excessive drooling and head control in the neurtal position

he can and will swallow properly). I told them I wanted a second opinion,

from a neuro. Anyhoo what is the difference between neruologist and a

Physiatrist? Which would have more exerience of working with severe brain

injury especially from someone that has very limited response by

signlanguage (instead of verbally) ? From what i see physicarist tend to

work with patients that can reason and communicate, and a neurologist just

scan

the brain and looks at its physical and prescribe medications and therapy

ahhhh anyways thanks for any info- stephani

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We have used Tom's of Maine non-flouride peppermint toothpaste with Jimmy. He

lays on his back on the floor, and we brush over him from there. We've been

using an electric toothbrush for about four years. After we brush, we give him

water to rinse it down--which is why we use nonflouride.

It's never occurred to me until now to realize there's another way.

We've always looked at it as just one more way to get extra calcium in him.

His pediatric dentist often recommends our regimen to other parents, for both

brain-injured and non brain-injured children.

He's never had a cavity.

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>

>

>I don't blame you and tradazone will loose its effectiveness and most people

>need to increase the dose or use it sparingly..

>my brother in law is vp of Lilly and this is all that they have to offer.

>but I always say the mouth is the end of the GI system.. a good cleaning

>including the tongue will help him. I am treating a dental hygen's son, she

>tells me that antiboitics need to be on board during these types of cleaning

>because of the bacteria could enter the heart.

>God bless the children I hope he feels better

>

> [ ] Brain doctor

>

>Hello all, hope this email finds yall well. I have a question or two,

>has since started therapy as outpatient and they want him on this drug that

>stops the drooling. I was concerend because the doctor a Physiatrist that

>wrote the prescription has never even seen at all how can a doctor

>write a drug prescription with out seeing the patient, and the side effect

>of the drug??? can swallow (it is just his teeth are bad dentition and

>gingiva causing excessive drooling and head control in the neurtal position

>he can and will swallow properly). I told them I wanted a second opinion,

>from a neuro. Anyhoo what is the difference between neruologist and a

>Physiatrist? Which would have more exerience of working with severe brain

>injury especially from someone that has very limited response by

>signlanguage (instead of verbally) ? From what i see physicarist tend to

>work with patients that can reason and communicate, and a neurologist just

>scan

>the brain and looks at its physical and prescribe medications and therapy

>ahhhh anyways thanks for any info- stephani

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Yeah! Toms of Maine is what we just bought couple of weeks ago (at walmart! I

was surprised they carry it) I was worried about regular toothpaste having

aluminum in it. Though I admit it takes some getting used to that taste

different but not bad, I use spearmint, my kids use silly strawberry and for

too in case he swallows during brushing (there are two silly strawberry

one that is fluoride free and one that has anti cavity fluoride, I almost made

the mistake of getting fluoride) We also used Toms of Maine deodorant but for

me it didnt really work so I have tossed out regular deodorant and gone au

nautral LOL- stephani

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Subject: RE: [ ] teeth

 

We have used Tom's of Maine non-flouride peppermint toothpaste with Jimmy. He

lays on his back on the floor, and we brush over him from there. We've been

using an electric toothbrush for about four years. After we brush, we give him

water to rinse it down--which is why we use nonflouride.

It's never occurred to me until now to realize there's another way.

We've always looked at it as just one more way to get extra calcium in him.

His pediatric dentist often recommends our regimen to other parents, for both

brain-injured and non brain-injured children.

He's never had a cavity.

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>I don't blame you and tradazone will loose its effectiveness and most people

>need to increase the dose or use it sparingly..

>my brother in law is vp of Lilly and this is all that they have to offer.

>but I always say the mouth is the end of the GI system.. a good cleaning

>including the tongue will help him. I am treating a dental hygen's son, she

>tells me that antiboitics need to be on board during these types of cleaning

>because of the bacteria could enter the heart.

>God bless the children I hope he feels better

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>Hello all, hope this email finds yall well. I have a question or two,

>has since started therapy as outpatient and they want him on this drug that

>stops the drooling. I was concerend because the doctor a Physiatrist that

>wrote the prescription has never even seen at all how can a doctor

>write a drug prescription with out seeing the patient, and the side effect

>of the drug??? can swallow (it is just his teeth are bad dentition and

>gingiva causing excessive drooling and head control in the neurtal position

>he can and will swallow properly). I told them I wanted a second opinion,

>from a neuro. Anyhoo what is the difference between neruologist and a

>Physiatrist? Which would have more exerience of working with severe brain

>injury especially from someone that has very limited response by

>signlanguage (instead of verbally) ? From what i see physicarist tend to

>work with patients that can reason and communicate, and a neurologist just

>scan

>the brain and looks at its physical and prescribe medications and therapy

>ahhhh anyways thanks for any info- stephani

>

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Wild, I wouldn't have thought of full removal.

Someone else mentioned a couple of weeks ago, how during treatment they would wake up with a compeltely dry mouth. That would happen to me, too; a really strange feeling. It can't be good for your teeth, either.

The first round of treatment I noticed that the skin inside my mouth would come off in sheets, after brushing with some minty-fresh toothpaste like Colgate. Doctor had no advice, just shrugged.

The second time around, I told one of my friends, who had gone through Chemo for Breast Cancer. She instantly knew the answer, as this symptom is well known in breast cancer groups. The chemo goes after your fastest-dividing cells first -- these are the ones in nails, hair, and mucous membranes like inside your mouth. If you've done treatment you're sure to remember the way your fingernails became soft and useless.

Her advice: use Biotene toothpaste and mouthwash. The toothpaste works great -- no more sheets of mouth skin to pull out like boogers and wipe somehwere. The mouthwash is a good way to moisten up when waking up with your mouth all dry and crackly.

So there are some things that you can try, before full tooth removal.

Cynde

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Va Doc "suggested" I have my teeth removed and dentures installed before I began treatment. I had relatively good ones. Was a good idea

Glenn

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After having my teeth cleaned at the dentist they were sensitive for a week. I

bitched about it to my non-mercury dentist and next time they are only using

baking soda to clean them.

We'll see if that makes a difference.

Do you still have metal in your mouth?

On May 12, 2011, at 11:54 PM, Jacquelyn Nesdale wrote:

> hello everyone...i was wondering if anyone on here has problems with nerve

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Dont talk to me about teeth ! I have had 3 temp fillings with a veiw to

getting 2 zirconia crowns fitted. After the temp glassonemoer fillings were

fitted I suffered the most horendous pains in my teeth and jaws which after

1 month are still with me as a form of sensitivity to anything hot or cold

on 60% of my teeth. I had one large mercury filling removed in the

process. What brings me down is that I am likely to have to go through this

pain all over again several times - that's hell

puk

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After having my teeth cleaned at the dentist they were sensitive for a

week. I bitched about it to my non-mercury dentist and next time they are only

using baking soda to clean them.

We'll see if that makes a difference.

Do you still have metal in your mouth?

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nerve pain withthere teeth?

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try oil pulling, it really helps. Swish organic sesame oil around your mouth for

15 minutes then spit out first thing in the morning

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I have metal in my mouth and I am wanting to get it out in the hope that my e.s.

will disappear. I have read about needing to follow a protocol before removing

your amalgams. Have you done that? What did you do?

Maureen

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> I have metal in my mouth and I am wanting to get it out in the hope that my

e.s. will disappear.

> I have read about needing to follow a protocol before removing your amalgams.

> Have you done that? What did you do?

I would not expect your ES to disappear merely from removing the metals in your

mouth.

This would simply be the first step in a long process of heavy metal detox.

I'm not sure what you mean by a protocol BEFORE removing your fillings, other

than perhaps

getting your health up to a level where you can handle the removal (and I

suspect most

people are healthy enough for that).

Also, DURING the removal, the dentist should take some precautions to minimize

your

exposure to mercury. This could include things like:

- drilling strategy than gets the fillings out quickly (in chunks)

- water-cooled drill to reduce heat when drilling mercury fillings (less vapor)

- external air supply to your nose so you are not breathing in the mercury vapor

- rubber dam to prevent chunks of mercury falling down your throat

Also, after the appointment is over you might want to change your clothes,

take activate charcoal, take antioxidants, etc.

Marc

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> getting 2 zirconia crowns fitted. After the temp glassonemoer fillings were

> fitted I suffered the most horendous pains in my teeth and jaws which after

> 1 month are still with me as a form of sensitivity to anything hot or cold

> on 60% of my teeth.

Are you consuming any dairy products? I've read a book ( " Cure Tooth Decay " )

that indicates that milk, cheese, or butter (preferably unpasteurized if you

can find it) can reduce tooth sensitivity. I know I had similar tooth

sensitivities

which went away once I added these things to my diet.

Marc

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Raw cheese is not too hard to find. I think raw salmon has helped too,

and a supplement called MK-7 (from natto by Jarrow).

I've been getting terrible pain lately, I think more from the nerves in

the upper jaw, but may also be tooth related. I put in some temporary

fillings out of zinc oxide and clove oil. For pain relief the banana

peel remedy (apply inside over the painful area) does seem to work.

It has dopamine I've read.

Clove oil also can help with pain, but it's powerful and can irritate lips etc.

Best to protect lips with lip balm first.

I also think real sauerkraut (e.g. Bubbies) helps; maybe use baking soda

after or non-acidic vitamin C to neutralize.

I still like the blotting brush but it's not good if you want to just

use 1 brush.

In that case (like traveling) I'd go for the nimbus, which has soft

and firm bristles.

On 5/13/11, Marc <marc@...> wrote:

>> getting 2 zirconia crowns fitted. After the temp glassonemoer fillings

>> were

>> fitted I suffered the most horendous pains in my teeth and jaws which

>> after

>> 1 month are still with me as a form of sensitivity to anything hot or

>> cold

>> on 60% of my teeth.

>

> Are you consuming any dairy products? I've read a book ( " Cure Tooth Decay " )

> that indicates that milk, cheese, or butter (preferably unpasteurized if you

> can find it) can reduce tooth sensitivity. I know I had similar tooth

> sensitivities

> which went away once I added these things to my diet.

>

> Marc

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