silicone toxicity

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>> Author Address: Talcott Consulting, 17 Pacific Crest, Laguna Niguel, CA> 92677, USA.>>> Source: INTERNATIONAL JOURNAL OF OCCUPATIONAL MEDICINE AND TOXICOLOGY; 4> (1). 1995. 113-126.>>> Abstract:>> BIOSIS COPYRIGHT: BIOL ABS. Long-term implantable medical devices require> materials that are resistant to degradation by the corrosive environmentof> the body (or its cells) and must not release materials which cause> sensitization or stimulate an immune response. Although siliconescontained> significant amounts of migratable low-molecular-weight cyclics (oligomers)> and were known by the manufacturers to contain other migratable materials,> they were thought by device users to fit those requirements. Today thetrue> amount and nature of silicone migratables are still not openly publicized.> More recent data suggest that, because of these migratables, silicone> materials may not be as safe as initially thought. There were many early> warnings that were, at best, missed or at worst, ignored This reviewpoints> out erroneous assumptions and some of the recent related research whichmay> explain the chemical basis of silicone-caused diseases. It is hoped that> continued exposure to silicone-caused diseases can be stopped worldwide,and> agreement that silicones are involved with delayed toxicity can be reached> among the medical community.>

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Hi Open,

Welcome!

There is no test that will tell you if you have silicone toxcitity! . . . I think they're afraid to know the truth.

We have tons of information in the messages and the archives. . . Please look them over . . maybe you can find something that you feel applies to you.

And, feel free to ask any questions. . . We have wonderful ladies here who understand and want to help.

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

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Hi there,

I'm sorry to hear you've had your implants so long. Are they silicone

gel?

I'm afraid that there really is no single test that will specifically

point to your implants as a cause. If there were, there would be

many victories in court cases against implants with solid proof in

those tests.

What we have to do is test for various hormonal issues that may be

going on, (thyroid problems are extremely common amongst implanted

women), and autoimmune conditions. But testing is only the beginning

and it is strictly to understand what the body is dealing with. From

there we do not recommend taking drugs as they only add to the

toxicity in our body. Our focus is on detoxing and correcting

hormonal issues.

It is a very difficult period as you heal, but it can be done. You

just need to get focused on detoxing using natural methods after a

proper explant. This is the best course of action we have found.

If you have not considered explant, I would urge you to do so and get

them out as soon as you can. We have a list of recommended surgeons

that you can look over. It is in our files or links section.

Best wishes,

Patty

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> HI I HAD MY IMPLANTS SINCE 1991. JUST THIS SUMMER I STARTED HAVING

> PAIN IN MY LEGS AND HIPS SO BAD I COULD NOT SLEEP AT NIGHT THEN MY

HIPS

> GOT SO BAD I COULD NOT WALK...THEN MY RIBS BEGAN TO DISLOCATE AND I

AM

> HAVING SO MUCH PAIN WHEN I LIE DOWN THAT IT IS ALMOST UNBEARABLE.

I

> STAY EXTREMELY TIRED AND DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. I KEPT THINKING I

HAVE

> LUPUS BECAUSE I HAVE ALOT OF THE SYMPTOMS. CAN ANYONE TELL ME

WHERE I

> CAN GO TO GET A TOXICITY TEST.

>

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Hi, Thanks for the response. I have saline implants. I fell about three months ago and it was a very hard fall. I didn't think I really hurt myself bad, just bruised on my side. Maybe they(implants) began to leak then or something, because I have been in really good health all my life. But just a while after that I begin to get achey after exercising, I bought a new tread climber and used it everyday. If it was nice out I would walk for 3 miles everyday. Now I am unable to walk any length at all. My hips are very inflammed and my ribs keep coming out of place. A Dr. tried to put them back in place and broke them. I am still try to heal from that, it was right after Thanksgiving. And I am getting all responses through e-mail. Should I be doing something else I am new to this and just signed up today...I am just needing to know something, because this pain is wearing me down.

Jo

From: glory2glory1401@...Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 03:16:40 +0000Subject: Re: Silicone toxicity

Hi there,I'm sorry to hear you've had your implants so long. Are they silicone gel?I'm afraid that there really is no single test that will specifically point to your implants as a cause. If there were, there would be many victories in court cases against implants with solid proof in those tests. What we have to do is test for various hormonal issues that may be going on, (thyroid problems are extremely common amongst implanted women), and autoimmune conditions. But testing is only the beginning and it is strictly to understand what the body is dealing with. From there we do not recommend taking drugs as they only add to the toxicity in our body. Our focus is on detoxing and correcting hormonal issues.It is a very difficult period as you heal, but it can be done. You just need to get focused on detoxing using natural methods after a proper explant. This is the best course of action we have found.If you have not considered explant, I would urge you to do so and get them out as soon as you can. We have a list of recommended surgeons that you can look over. It is in our files or links section.Best wishes,Patty>> HI I HAD MY IMPLANTS SINCE 1991. JUST THIS SUMMER I STARTED HAVING > PAIN IN MY LEGS AND HIPS SO BAD I COULD NOT SLEEP AT NIGHT THEN MY HIPS > GOT SO BAD I COULD NOT WALK...THEN MY RIBS BEGAN TO DISLOCATE AND I AM > HAVING SO MUCH PAIN WHEN I LIE DOWN THAT IT IS ALMOST UNBEARABLE. I > STAY EXTREMELY TIRED AND DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. I KEPT THINKING I HAVE > LUPUS BECAUSE I HAVE ALOT OF THE SYMPTOMS. CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHERE I > CAN GO TO GET A TOXICITY TEST.> The best games are on Xbox 360. Click here for a special offer on an Xbox 360 Console. Get it now!

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Jo,

You're doing fine . . . If the volume of emails gets too large, you can change your settings to Daily Digest, or No Mail (and read from the webpage).

Personally, I like to get all the messages!

I hope you can get those implants out soon. . . They've found all kinds of organisms growing in them. . . That fall may have caused them to start leaking. Since you were healthy before that, it's likely it did.

Things I'd suggest . . . "The Maker's Diet" . . . Caprylic Acid . . . Precision Herbs Mycoplex and Puricell. . . All can be found with a web search. . . www.vitacost.com has some decent prices for most products. They don't carry Precision Herbs though.

I'm impressed with what I've read and heard about Standard Process though . . . The ladies here can tell you about them.

There are other ways to get the toxins out . . . It looks like we've had a lot of discussion on that just today!

You'll likely feel overwhelmed with all the information you're going to find here . . . Please take a deep breath . . . and take one thing at a time. . . Getting scheduled to get those implants out would be a good place to start.

The good news is that you can get your life back! . . . It will take work and patience. But, if so many of our women have already done it, you should be able to do so too!

Hugs,

Rogene

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Ah, this explains alot! It sounds to me like your body is having an

immune system reaction to was instigated after your fall. I had a

similar experience although I didn't fall. About 7 months post

implantation, I had gone back to my surgeon and told him that my

breasts were just too hard. He had told me to massage them often

before then, but his solution this time was to have me lay down on my

stomach and let my weight fall directly onto my breast implants so

they could be " loosened " that way. It was right after that

experience that my sickness hit.

My take on that is that I had some kind of infective material within

my scar capsules (and I think this because at one point prior to my

consultation my breasts become very hot, like they were fevered, and

he didn't have an answer for that. They even squeaked, like if you

rub your fingers across a balloon!) I believe that the floor massage

actually caused some release of toxic material that my body reacted

to, and from there things went downhill.

It sounds like that could have been your experience after the fall.

All it takes is one trauma, one stressful event (death, divorce, loss

of job, etc.) to cause our immune system to be overburdened and to

start faltering. The implants are a foreign object that our bodies

fight 24/7. It's like a house of cards, when just one card out of

place or one more added will cause the whole thing to fall apart.

You will need to get the implants out if you want the best chance of

recovery.

As for the group posts, you will get them all through your email if

that is how you signed up for them. You can change your delivery

options to only view them at the website if you like. You will not

receive the attachments if you view them this way. (Things like

pictures.)

Patty

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HAD MY IMPLANTS SINCE 1991. JUST THIS SUMMER I STARTED HAVING > PAIN

IN MY LEGS AND HIPS SO BAD I COULD NOT SLEEP AT NIGHT THEN MY HIPS >

GOT SO BAD I COULD NOT WALK...THEN MY RIBS BEGAN TO DISLOCATE AND I

AM > HAVING SO MUCH PAIN WHEN I LIE DOWN THAT IT IS ALMOST

UNBEARABLE. I > STAY EXTREMELY TIRED AND DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. I

KEPT THINKING I HAVE > LUPUS BECAUSE I HAVE ALOT OF THE SYMPTOMS. CAN

ANYONE TELL ME WHERE I > CAN GO TO GET A TOXICITY TEST.>

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