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Thanks for all who replied to my inquiry, especially that ROFL image if you all

puckered-up, Lisbeth! #; )

I've decided that since I expect to be off the prednisone in the next few weeks

anyway, I'll wait for that and step up treatment with slippery elm before

trying it. In the meantime, a big mug of hot water with a generous squeeze of

lemon sounds like a good appetizer before meals. Thanks again! Liz G

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> Subject: Re:HCI

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> What is HCI, and what does it do?

I think it's hydrochloric acid, it's something the body

produces naturally to digest foods, esp. proteins?

Many of us don't have enough of it as we get older.

Pretty sure if I'm reading your " letters " correctly

that's what it is.

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think it's hydrochloric acid, it's something the body

produces naturally to digest foods, esp. proteins?

Yeah, we don't have enough as we age. I think that drinking some vinegar

water either before or with your meals helps.

Susie

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In a message dated 7/14/2003 1:02:48 PM Central Daylight Time,

dmagic@... writes:

> thanks susie and rachel. i'll try the vinegar water,.

I just don't know how much to tell you to use in the way of vinegar. I had a

book by Dr. Lee that's a menopause book, and he had something about it in his

book for people who have HCI problems. I can't remember if it's in Dr.

Cabot's book or not. might know the amount or heard of it before.

Susie

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In a message dated 7/14/2003 1:31:52 PM Central Daylight Time,

rachelschurdevin@... writes:

> Im not sure about lemon, I think it is really good for the stomach. You can

>

> buy strips to check your ph.I think if you call the health store and just

> ask for hydrochloric acid they should be able to help you.

>

I used to drink a glass of lemon or lime water every morning for years. I

may start it again. Dr. Cabot recommends it because it helps start your liver

to cleansing first thing. I would only use 1/2 of either lemon or lime.

Susie

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thanks susie and rachel. i'll try the vinegar water,.

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Date: Monday, July 14, 2003 10:43:54 AM

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Subject: Re: HCI

think it's hydrochloric acid, it's something the body

produces naturally to digest foods, esp. proteins?

Yeah, we don't have enough as we age. I think that drinking some vinegar

water either before or with your meals helps.

Susie

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I think A that vinegar can be bad if you are too acidic, and you can also

buy HCI pills, I was taking a supplement called Digestizyme it had HCI in

it, I think it is made by Energique. also maybe try checking your ph.

>From: " " <dmagic@...>

>Reply-gallstones

><gallstones >

>Subject: Re: HCI

>Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:00:55 -0700 (Pacific Standard Time)

>

>thanks susie and rachel. i'll try the vinegar water,.

>

>

>

>

>-------Original Message-------

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>From: gallstones

>Date: Monday, July 14, 2003 10:43:54 AM

>gallstones

>Subject: Re: HCI

>

>think it's hydrochloric acid, it's something the body

>produces naturally to digest foods, esp. proteins?

>

>Yeah, we don't have enough as we age. I think that drinking some vinegar

>water either before or with your meals helps.

>

>Susie

>

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if not vinegar, does lemon also apply? when i went to the health store they

did not know what hci is. how do i check my ph? is it simple, not

complicated? thanks, please understand i am new at all of this. guess i

ll have to thank my doctor for SOMETHING. like letting me know i had

gallstones.

-------Original Message-------

From: gallstones

Date: Monday, July 14, 2003 12:02:08 PM

gallstones

Subject: Re: HCI

I think A that vinegar can be bad if you are too acidic, and you can also

buy HCI pills, I was taking a supplement called Digestizyme it had HCI in

it, I think it is made by Energique. also maybe try checking your ph.

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> I just don't know how much to tell you to use in the way of vinegar. I

had a

> book by Dr. Lee that's a menopause book, and he had something about it in

his

> book for people who have HCI problems. I can't remember if it's in Dr.

> Cabot's book or not. might know the amount or heard of it before.

>

> Susie

I just use it as suggest on Bragg's Apple Cider Vinegar

bottle, and not all the time, just when I remember. For

digestion, I use digestive enzymes, the following links

to what I use:

https://www.mynsp.com/web/meydrech/products.jsp?stocknum=15250

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Im not sure about lemon, I think it is really good for the stomach. You can

buy strips to check your ph.I think if you call the health store and just

ask for hydrochloric acid they should be able to help you.

>From: " " <dmagic@...>

>Reply-gallstones

><gallstones >

>Subject: Re: HCI

>Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:19:10 -0700 (Pacific Standard Time)

>

>if not vinegar, does lemon also apply? when i went to the health store

>they

>did not know what hci is. how do i check my ph? is it simple, not

>complicated? thanks, please understand i am new at all of this. guess i

>ll have to thank my doctor for SOMETHING. like letting me know i had

>gallstones.

>

>

>

>-------Original Message-------

>

>From: gallstones

>Date: Monday, July 14, 2003 12:02:08 PM

>gallstones

>Subject: Re: HCI

>

>I think A that vinegar can be bad if you are too acidic, and you can also

>buy HCI pills, I was taking a supplement called Digestizyme it had HCI in

>it, I think it is made by Energique. also maybe try checking your ph.

>

>

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Take 2 teaspoons of vinegar in tall glass of water with 1 teaspoon

honey is the proportions for this drink.

I will share another good thing about the AC vinegar. I was sick at

my stomach and as soon as I had emptied it, I quickly made a glass

of 1 tablespoon of ACV in about 16 ounces of water and drank it.

Then ran back to the bathroom. When it came back it was not bitter

or burning. I took another and only lost part of it. It kills the

bitter acid in the stomach and cleans the stomach of the bad stuff.

I drank an other glass just to have something in my stomach. It

works every time too. Do not use honey at this time.

Lemon is good to alkalize the body too.

> if not vinegar, does lemon also apply? when i went to the health

store they

> did not know what hci is. how do i check my ph? is it simple,

not

> complicated? thanks, please understand i am new at all of this.

guess i

> ll have to thank my doctor for SOMETHING. like letting me know i

had

> gallstones.

>

>

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

> From: gallstones

> Date: Monday, July 14, 2003 12:02:08 PM

> gallstones

> Subject: Re: HCI

>

> I think A that vinegar can be bad if you are too acidic, and you

can also

> buy HCI pills, I was taking a supplement called Digestizyme it had

HCI in

> it, I think it is made by Energique. also maybe try checking your

ph.

>

>

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do you have allergies? My allergist told me that an upset

stomach is often a symptom of allergies. It can either be an allergy

to a food, or a nasal allergy and the stomach upset is caused by the

drainage of mucous into the stomach (post-nasal drip). Whenever I

have an upset stomach now (or if one of my children complain of

stomach upset) I take vitamin C or eat pickles or oranges --

something acidic to help digest all that mucous and yuck in my

stomach. It works wonders.

At one time my " food allergies " were so bad I couldn't eat more than

a couple tablespoonsful of food at a time (two crackers or a couple

of ounces of juice)... but since I've started taking lots of vitamin

C I have never again had that bloated-ready-to-explode feeling in my

stomach. I try to avoid wheat, but if I slip up or can't resist

something I load up on vitamin C and my system takes care of the

problem foods.

I also use a homeopathic allergy remedy on occasion -- especially if

I am exposed to a lot of dust -- and it helps a lot, too.

Luci

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> Take 2 teaspoons of vinegar in tall glass of water with 1 teaspoon

> honey is the proportions for this drink.

> I will share another good thing about the AC vinegar. I was sick at

> my stomach and as soon as I had emptied it, I quickly made a glass

> of 1 tablespoon of ACV in about 16 ounces of water and drank it.

> Then ran back to the bathroom. When it came back it was not bitter

> or burning. I took another and only lost part of it. It kills the

> bitter acid in the stomach and cleans the stomach of the bad stuff.

> I drank an other glass just to have something in my stomach. It

> works every time too. Do not use honey at this time.

> Lemon is good to alkalize the body too.

>

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At 11:29 PM 14-07-03 +0000, you stated:

>Take 2 teaspoons of vinegar in tall glass of water with 1 teaspoon

>honey is the proportions for this drink.

>I will share another good thing about the AC vinegar. I was sick at

>my stomach and as soon as I had emptied it, I quickly made a glass

>of 1 tablespoon of ACV in about 16 ounces of water and drank it.

>Then ran back to the bathroom. When it came back it was not bitter

>or burning. I took another and only lost part of it. It kills the

>bitter acid in the stomach and cleans the stomach of the bad stuff.

>I drank an other glass just to have something in my stomach. It

>works every time too. Do not use honey at this time.

>Lemon is good to alkalize the body too.

Both vinegar and lemon are acids.

Are you sure that they " alkalize " the body?

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> >Lemon is good to alkalize the body too.

>

> Both vinegar and lemon are acids.

>

> Are you sure that they " alkalize " the body?

In the case of lemon, if it is natural and not

pasteurized processed lemon juice, it becomes

alkili in the digestion process.

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At 07:47 AM 22-07-03 -0500, stated:

> > >Lemon is good to alkalize the body too.

> >

> > Both vinegar and lemon are acids.

> >

> > Are you sure that they " alkalize " the body?

>

>In the case of lemon, if it is natural and not

>pasteurized processed lemon juice, it becomes

>alkili in the digestion process.

That sort of sounds like saying that black becomes white. Can you explain

this seeming paradox?

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my understanding of acid/alkaline issues is fairly limited

but here is some info

from what i know, when people talk about foods being acid or alkaline, they

are talking about the effect they have on the body, or the burnt residue of

the food or ash. this is covered in arnold ehret's mucousless healing

system.

according to ehret all raw fruits and vegetgables are alkaline ash, or

mucousless, in that they have the properties of alkalizing the body.

so while lemon is obviously and acidic food, it contains minerals and

enzymes that ultimately cleanse the body and leave it more alkaline.

keep in mind that this issue is far from simple. there are alchemical

processes that happen all over the body that are not fully understood. as

some minerals and electrolytes can transmute into eachother.

also there can be pockets of acidity all over the body. so we might have a

situation where there is a tumor that is acidic, or impacted waste in the

intestine that is acidic, and still have a normal saliva or urine ph. ph

will also vary greatly depending on the most recent meal.

we might find a seemingly acidic condition in the blood or urine during a

healing crisis, which is while the body is in the process of becoming more

alkaline. so where in the process one is is also of importance.

for these reasons, i pay very little attention to acid/alkaline issues

if i feel like eating fruit i eat it. if i feel like eating meat i eat it.

meat contains minerals that can alkalize the body. whereas some people

contend that meat will putrefy in the intestines and cause acidity. then

again there is the blood type diet that contends that food compatibility is

more important than whether a food is alkaline or not. then there is the raw

food theory. the list goes on and on

things are rarely simple in the body

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