Re: Re: Age and GB Attacks

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This is a simple test that will let you know where you stand with

stomach acid. It is often assumed by most doctors that if there is

heart burn that there is excess acid. But lack of acid lets the stomach

contents build up too much before it dumps causing the heart burn feel

in the esophogus.

baking soda test

It is supposed to give you an idea about whether or not you have

enough stomach acid. To do this test, you mix 1/4 tsp baking soda into

8 oz of water. Drink this first thing in the AM, before food. Time

how long it takes you to blelch. Should happen in 2-3 minutes for

normal stomach acid. If it happens quickly, and you keep belching, you

have too much acid. If it doesn't happen within 5 minutes, you don't

have enough acid.

Just to find out how baking soda works with an acid, I added 1/4 cup of

5% vinegar to 8 oz of water mixed with 1/4 tsp of baking soda. It

bubbled for a long time.

wrote:

>It's possible that my pancreas isn't functioning fully - my chiropractor

>believes it is/was damaged from a year of intense stress that caused

>internal lesions. I think the pancreas excretes bicarbonate and maybe I'm

>not getting enough of that. Also, I'm Type O and Type O's have pretty acidic

>stomachs. I don't eat meat, so maybe that acid - meant to digest meat -

>builds up. I know that drinking lemon juice and warm water before breakfast

>one day gave me one of my worst attacks ever.

>

>-----Original Message-----

>From: Lucinda [mailto:jlsuther@...]

>Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 1:54 PM

>gallstones

>Subject: Re: Age and GB Attacks

>

>

>Now I'm the opposite, I need more acid to help digest the food and

>get it out of there quicker! I think the lemon juice from the cleanse

>does wonders to help my digestion. I've stopped having indigestion

>completely now that I started taking at least 2,000mg of Vitamin C

>each day.

>

>Luci

>

>

>

>

>>I had a similar situation...though not so many stones. I refused

>>

>>

>surgery and

>

>

>>saw a chiropractor who did craniosacral therapy and put me on a

>>

>>

>number of

>

>

>>supplements. At first I got worse, then finally started to improve.

>>

>>

>After

>

>

>>seeing him for about 6 months the attacks stopped. We both thought

>>

>>

>I was

>

>

>>cured. Then I relapsed 5 months later. I stopped seeing the

>>

>>

>chiropractor,

>

>

>>thinking he'd done all he could do for me. I then saw an

>>

>>

>accupuncturist. I

>

>

>>was attack free for 3 weeks, then things got worse. After a few

>>

>>

>months I

>

>

>>gave up on him. I started taking Tums. I've been attack free since

>>mid-September. I'm not ready to say I'm cured...I get nervous

>>

>>

>almost every

>

>

>>time I eat...but I'm feeling great. I don't know what is going on

>>

>>

>with me.

>

>

>>My GI specialist thinks it's gallstones, but I certainly believe

>>

>>

>stomach

>

>

>>acid plays a role. I think the chiropractor helped. For one, the

>>

>>

>supplements

>

>

>>seem to have enlarged my ducts, making it easier to pass stones

>>

>>

>when I was

>

>

>>having attacks. I forgot to mention that when I relapsed I was

>>

>>

>having up to

>

>

>>2 attacks a day, 4 times a week...but they were mild and short

>>

>>

>lived.

>

>

>>Previously they lasted 5 hours and were very intense.

>>

>>This is just my experience. I was really careful about acidic food,

>>

>>

>and took

>

>

>>Tums. I only take one a day now unless I know I'll be eating tomato

>>

>>

>or lemon

>

>

>>or something.

>>

>>-----Original Message-----

>>From: lynne93550 [mailto:lynne93550@y...]

>>Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 2:53 PM

>>gallstones

>>Subject: Age and GB Attacks

>>

>>

>>Hi...I am Lynne and age 53. I have been having GB attacks since the

>>summer and they are gradually getting more frequent and worse. It

>>

>>

>is

>

>

>>now getting so I can't eat anymore without getting a huge

>>

>>

>stomachache

>

>

>>afterwards and then I have to make myself throw up. I have lost 20

>>pounds in 3 weeks. I had an ultra sound after a massive attack a

>>month or so ago and it showed up that half my GB is filled with

>>stones. the doctor said I'd better get surgery right away. I am

>>anti-surgery and thought that if I went on the right diet that the

>>attacks would stop. I have been eating small amounts of oatmeal and

>>fat-free soy-milk and I still had an attack today. I am feeling

>>

>>

>like

>

>

>>I just don't want to live like this...I would rather die. And there

>>is no way that I will be cut open on an operating table. NEVER!!!!

>>So I just don't know what to do. I am too sick right now to do any

>>flush. It would kill me. Does anyone have a suggestion???

>>Lynne

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

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It's possible that my pancreas isn't functioning fully - my chiropractor

believes it is/was damaged from a year of intense stress that caused

internal lesions. I think the pancreas excretes bicarbonate and maybe I'm

not getting enough of that. Also, I'm Type O and Type O's have pretty acidic

stomachs. I don't eat meat, so maybe that acid - meant to digest meat -

builds up. I know that drinking lemon juice and warm water before breakfast

one day gave me one of my worst attacks ever.

-----Original Message-----

From: Lucinda [mailto:jlsuther@...]

Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 1:54 PM

gallstones

Subject: Re: Age and GB Attacks

Now I'm the opposite, I need more acid to help digest the food and

get it out of there quicker! I think the lemon juice from the cleanse

does wonders to help my digestion. I've stopped having indigestion

completely now that I started taking at least 2,000mg of Vitamin C

each day.

Luci

> I had a similar situation...though not so many stones. I refused

surgery and

> saw a chiropractor who did craniosacral therapy and put me on a

number of

> supplements. At first I got worse, then finally started to improve.

After

> seeing him for about 6 months the attacks stopped. We both thought

I was

> cured. Then I relapsed 5 months later. I stopped seeing the

chiropractor,

> thinking he'd done all he could do for me. I then saw an

accupuncturist. I

> was attack free for 3 weeks, then things got worse. After a few

months I

> gave up on him. I started taking Tums. I've been attack free since

> mid-September. I'm not ready to say I'm cured...I get nervous

almost every

> time I eat...but I'm feeling great. I don't know what is going on

with me.

> My GI specialist thinks it's gallstones, but I certainly believe

stomach

> acid plays a role. I think the chiropractor helped. For one, the

supplements

> seem to have enlarged my ducts, making it easier to pass stones

when I was

> having attacks. I forgot to mention that when I relapsed I was

having up to

> 2 attacks a day, 4 times a week...but they were mild and short

lived.

> Previously they lasted 5 hours and were very intense.

>

> This is just my experience. I was really careful about acidic food,

and took

> Tums. I only take one a day now unless I know I'll be eating tomato

or lemon

> or something.

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: lynne93550 [mailto:lynne93550@y...]

> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 2:53 PM

> gallstones

> Subject: Age and GB Attacks

>

>

> Hi...I am Lynne and age 53. I have been having GB attacks since the

> summer and they are gradually getting more frequent and worse. It

is

> now getting so I can't eat anymore without getting a huge

stomachache

> afterwards and then I have to make myself throw up. I have lost 20

> pounds in 3 weeks. I had an ultra sound after a massive attack a

> month or so ago and it showed up that half my GB is filled with

> stones. the doctor said I'd better get surgery right away. I am

> anti-surgery and thought that if I went on the right diet that the

> attacks would stop. I have been eating small amounts of oatmeal and

> fat-free soy-milk and I still had an attack today. I am feeling

like

> I just don't want to live like this...I would rather die. And there

> is no way that I will be cut open on an operating table. NEVER!!!!

> So I just don't know what to do. I am too sick right now to do any

> flush. It would kill me. Does anyone have a suggestion???

> Lynne

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Lemons are actually highly alkaline ash residue...some charts place lemons &

watermelon as the most alkaline fruit you can eat.

The acid in citrus fruit /pineapple etc (which is hard on tooth enamel) is in

now way connected to the acid as in acid /alkiine residue foods..these are 2

different things.....The acic/alkaline definition of foods refers to the ash

after digestion in the gut...lemons are very alkaline ..very cleansing & very

liver/GallBladder friendly ...Incidentally for all those who replace lemon juice

in the flush with grapefruit juice ..grapefruit is not in anyway a specifically

liver friendly fruit in fact just the contrary...grapefruit contain a potent

liver enzyme inhibitor.

Lemon Juice is still my preferred companion for Olive oil in flush..fwiw

----- Original Message -----

From:

gallstones

Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 11:12 AM

Subject: RE: Re: Age and GB Attacks

It's possible that my pancreas isn't functioning fully - my chiropractor

believes it is/was damaged from a year of intense stress that caused

internal lesions. I think the pancreas excretes bicarbonate and maybe I'm

not getting enough of that. Also, I'm Type O and Type O's have pretty acidic

stomachs. I don't eat meat, so maybe that acid - meant to digest meat -

builds up. I know that drinking lemon juice and warm water before breakfast

one day gave me one of my worst attacks ever.

-----Original Message-----

From: Lucinda [mailto:jlsuther@...]

Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 1:54 PM

gallstones

Subject: Re: Age and GB Attacks

Now I'm the opposite, I need more acid to help digest the food and

get it out of there quicker! I think the lemon juice from the cleanse

does wonders to help my digestion. I've stopped having indigestion

completely now that I started taking at least 2,000mg of Vitamin C

each day.

Luci

> I had a similar situation...though not so many stones. I refused

surgery and

> saw a chiropractor who did craniosacral therapy and put me on a

number of

> supplements. At first I got worse, then finally started to improve.

After

> seeing him for about 6 months the attacks stopped. We both thought

I was

> cured. Then I relapsed 5 months later. I stopped seeing the

chiropractor,

> thinking he'd done all he could do for me. I then saw an

accupuncturist. I

> was attack free for 3 weeks, then things got worse. After a few

months I

> gave up on him. I started taking Tums. I've been attack free since

> mid-September. I'm not ready to say I'm cured...I get nervous

almost every

> time I eat...but I'm feeling great. I don't know what is going on

with me.

> My GI specialist thinks it's gallstones, but I certainly believe

stomach

> acid plays a role. I think the chiropractor helped. For one, the

supplements

> seem to have enlarged my ducts, making it easier to pass stones

when I was

> having attacks. I forgot to mention that when I relapsed I was

having up to

> 2 attacks a day, 4 times a week...but they were mild and short

lived.

> Previously they lasted 5 hours and were very intense.

>

> This is just my experience. I was really careful about acidic food,

and took

> Tums. I only take one a day now unless I know I'll be eating tomato

or lemon

> or something.

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: lynne93550 [mailto:lynne93550@y...]

> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 2:53 PM

> gallstones

> Subject: Age and GB Attacks

>

>

> Hi...I am Lynne and age 53. I have been having GB attacks since the

> summer and they are gradually getting more frequent and worse. It

is

> now getting so I can't eat anymore without getting a huge

stomachache

> afterwards and then I have to make myself throw up. I have lost 20

> pounds in 3 weeks. I had an ultra sound after a massive attack a

> month or so ago and it showed up that half my GB is filled with

> stones. the doctor said I'd better get surgery right away. I am

> anti-surgery and thought that if I went on the right diet that the

> attacks would stop. I have been eating small amounts of oatmeal and

> fat-free soy-milk and I still had an attack today. I am feeling

like

> I just don't want to live like this...I would rather die. And there

> is no way that I will be cut open on an operating table. NEVER!!!!

> So I just don't know what to do. I am too sick right now to do any

> flush. It would kill me. Does anyone have a suggestion???

> Lynne

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> Lemons are actually highly alkaline ash residue<snip>for all those who

>replace lemon juice in the flush with grapefruit juice ..grapefruit is

>not in anyway a specifically liver friendly fruit in fact just the

>contrary...grapefruit contain a potent liver enzyme inhibitor.

>Lemon Juice is still my preferred companion for Olive oil in flush..fwiw

>

Hi ,

I agree with you about lemons being alkili, this is true of

only FRESH lemon juice and other citrus. I am wondering about

what you said about Grapefruit. Can you give a bit more info

on that? I know that when my husband had Lipitor prescribed,

they said not to eat Grapefruit with it, that it completely negates

the work of the Lipitor, a drug that lowers cholesterol by it's

affect on the liver (he isn't taking it right now but trying a

natural alternative...we'll see at next blood test if it works and

then decide the next course of action if necessary). Can

you please point me to some more information on the affect

of Grapefruit on the liver? I use it for my flushes

and have had better cleanses since, but am not sure if that

is because of the Grapefruit of just a coincidence...I do

agree that lemon is a wonderful cleanser, it must increase

the flow of bile. An old remedy was to have some lemon

juice in warm water each morning to get yourself " going " ,

and the thing that gets people " going " with most laxative

type herbs, etc., is the fact that bile flow is increased.

Thanks for any input you can give.

L. Meydrech, CN

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