Anger

[Guest guest]

Yes, extreme bouts of anger are one of the symptoms of exposure to these

toxins.  Prior to my exposure, I was a very calm, patient person.  After the

exposure, I had serious problems with anger.  I know some of you won't believe

me, but I finally found one thing that helped--Lamisil.  I usually refuse to

take prescription drugs, but I decided to try Lamisil (as a last resort after

trying many other things like sweating, supplements, etc.)..  I was tired of

fighting all the cognitive problems including the extreme bouts of anger.  Good

thing I tried Lamisil because it worked.  It really helped decrease my cognitive

problems.  Someone on this group responded that the Lamisil should not have made

any difference for me, but it did.  After all, I was poisoned by several types

of fungus and Lamisil is an anti-fungal medication.  Sharon, maybe it's worth

trying it for a month or two. 

[Guest guest]

Hi I'm new to the list and it's so nice to hear that other people get

same reactions as me. My emotions are not triggered by smells but

they are triggered by potatoes and/or scalar waves. I hate it.

Anyway, I am able to avoid the potatoes but the scalar waves are

impossible to get away from in case I move so I was using the bach

flower remedies and have been having success with them. Just an idea

for you. THere are lots of websites that explain the different flower

remedies and what is good for what but it sounds to me that that may help!

Carol

>

> Like a box of chocoletes,my family never knows who they will get.

>

[Guest guest]

Sounds like you may have had intestinal candidaisis, which I understand is

quite common after major mold exposure as well as other things like

antibiotics killing off your normal intestinal microflora..???

Candida is a fungi.. Lamisil has activity against it.

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 11:56 AM, <brianc8452@...> wrote:

> Yes, extreme bouts of anger are one of the symptoms of exposure to these

> toxins. Prior to my exposure, I was a very calm, patient person. After the

> exposure, I had serious problems with anger. I know some of you won't

> believe me, but I finally found one thing that helped--Lamisil. I usually

> refuse to take prescription drugs, but I decided to try Lamisil (as a last

> resort after trying many other things like sweating, supplements, etc.).. I

> was tired of fighting all the cognitive problems including the extreme bouts

> of anger. Good thing I tried Lamisil because it worked. It really helped

> decrease my cognitive problems. Someone on this group responded that the

> Lamisil should not have made any difference for me, but it did. After all,

> I was poisoned by several types of fungus and Lamisil is an anti-fungal

> medication. Sharon, maybe it's worth trying it for a month or two.

>

> __._

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry to hear that you are suffering like this. This reaction is how I knew

there was a mold problem in my kitchen. This sort of thing would happen after

spending an hour in the kitchen.  I used to have this problem before we

remediated the whole house, it really improved after doing antifungals,

supplements and fixing the house.

My brain specialist suggested to me to take alot of flax oil (3 to 10 T a day)

to help heal up my brain.  He said to be sure to get a 2 to 1 ratio of omega 3

fats to other fats. It really did help rebuild the nerves and brain tissue. He

said the nerves are basically made of omega 3's, and if there is not enough,

they will not heal. I still have to eat fat everyday or I am just not very

happy. Even if I am out of my favorite type, if I even put  a tablespoon of oil

on my oatmeal and mix it in, it helps. Non fat diets are not good for the brain.

I saw another brain specialist on public TV- a Dr. Amen, who was pretty

interesting. He seemed a little like a salesman, but he talked about many things

I knew from my brain specialist, so I think he is onto something.

All these " brain allergies " ,  " brain reactions " , etc, may be nothing more than a

neurotoxic response to things either in our environment or in our bodies. It is

possible that inflammation plays a role too- if the brain is swelling a little,

wouldn't that cause headaches and other reactions? And we all know that mold can

cause inflammation.

I know that when my personal toxin load is minimal, my body heals much faster, I

am happier, and feel better.  Hope you feel better soon.

Best Wishes,

[Guest guest]

I have read where TOXIC OVERLOAD causes personality changes, and I

can very much agree with that! At the height of my exposure(s) I was

absolutly intolorant of everything and became so very much unlike my

self, in the way of sarcastic and mean comments or answers to

questions. There was a point where I almost became violent with one

of my co workers and another co worker had to intercept my attitude

and send me off in another direction to cool off. At the same time

all of these emotions were taking place, I was also experiencing

chest pain, palpatations and skipped beats, hyperactivity, high

anxieties, and an inability to tolorate any amount of stress. I was

previously very polite and very much a quiet type but also

a " Do'er " , a go getter and a no non-sense person. Suddenly I was

B*tching about every little thing as if it were the end of the world

and it was someones fault, and I became quite mouthy. Yikes! A

Personality change for sure!

Since I have been away from the TOXIC ENVIRONMENT, It has taken 1

year to realize just how badly I have been affected and changed. I

still have bouts of intolorence and irritabilities, but I am able to

recognize it and put my self in a diff frame of mind to talk my self

out of such rage, which is very hard to do at times.

[Guest guest]

" I know that when my personal toxin load is minimal, my body heals

much faster, I am happier, and feel better.  Hope you feel better soon. "

>

You are 100% correct. We just got rid of the last three pieces of

furniture that had been in the house during remediation. I knew mold

was still hidden inside them. Now I have 2X the energy than I had for

the last five years. llaci

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Brain, if I understand right, colonization does not = fungal

infection. you can have fungal infection without colonization,like with

a wound, and colonization may or may not lead to infection, maybe

depending somewhat on which organs are colonized and maybe more so on

organ and tissue damage. heres a interesting article on burn victims.

I just glad you found relief. did you fell like you had alot of sinus

infections? maybe you had some tissue damage that was cayseing re-

infection? maybe it afforded this tissue time to heal?

fungal wound infection (not colonization) associated with mortality in

burn patients.

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1876957

--- In , <brianc8452@...>

wrote:

>

> Yes, extreme bouts of anger are one of the symptoms of exposure to

these toxins.  Prior to my exposure, I was a very calm, patient

person.  After the exposure, I had serious problems with anger.  I know

some of you won't believe me, but I finally found one thing that helped-

-Lamisil. 

[Guest guest]

>I have been reading these " anger " posts and thinking well no one

wants to hear another story but when you mentioned personality that

set off my alarms!

When I moved into my present home (moldy!) 17 years ago I changed from

being an easy going person who loved to decorate and design and whom

nothing or nobody could make angry to a depressed highly pessimistic

person-this pessimism is what I noticed the most. For years before I

discovered the mold I kept thinking " didn't I use to be optimistic? I

KNOW I was never like this I don;t get it. " But because it was just so

unbelievable I ignored it. My house remained unpainted and unrepaired,

I suffered all kinds of strange moods and finally, finally I

discovered the mold and made the connections.

So I was really " sick " for years before the symptoms got extreme. I

lost years and my kids were brought up by some moody stranger-not

me!Now when I have a great day I dig deep for that optimistic feeling

that feels like the old me-sometimes it's there!

Thanks for all the posts-this topic really connected with me and my

life-Surella

>

[Guest guest]

Sharon,

This may not help much in dealing with the awful symptoms, let alone the stress

of your health and situation over the past 11 years. But do know that you and KC

are not alone. You have many friends. You both have reached out to many people

while suffering through these long years of seeking good health and justice.

Thank you for sharing your exeperiences and trials. That in itself is a

testament to your courage in being willing to confide in the rest of us. There

are many of us here, who can relate and also appreciate all that you are going

through.

Sam

[Guest guest]

Carol,

What are scalar waves?

Thanks,

Sam

> My emotions are not triggered by

> smells but

> they are triggered by potatoes and/or scalar waves.

[Guest guest]

Sharon,

I also had the identical anger reactions, which you describe, during

my periods of mold/mycotoxin, and chemical sensitivity exposures.

But, my anger reactions disappeared within days or weeks of my

eliminating the sources of mold and chemical off-gassing from my

environment.

I have wondered, since I joined this health board, why people are

complaining of symptoms, such as yours, long after they claim to have

removed themselves from their sources of toxic exposure. I have come

to the conclusion, based on my personal experience, that, no matter

how hard the sufferers have worked to remove themselves from the

toxic triggers of their illness, those toxic triggers HAVE RETURNED

to their environment.

There are no benchmark objective tests to validate the degree of our

suffering, to doctors and non-moldies. We are left with only

one " proof " of our suffering. That " PROOF " is the " suffering itself " .

If we are STILL suffering; then we are STILL exposed to the toxic

causes of our suffering. We MUST listen to our body. Even if we don't

like what our body is saying. IMHO, if you are still sick, Sharon,

then you are STILL exposed.

The good news is, from my personal experience, the very FIRST

horrible symptom that disappears, after leaving the toxic exposure,

is the ANGER. I was amazed at how fast my anger disappeared, after

leaving mold environments, and after throwing out chemical off-

gassing sources.

The most recent source of MY anger, was the purchase of two new

EXPENSIVE, T.V. sets. The off-gassing was driving me insane and

insanely angry. Within 2 or 3 days of getting rid of the T.V.'s, MY

ANGER DISAPPEARED. Sharon, did you buy any new T.V.'s or other

electronic equipment, several months ago, at about the same time that

your anger began?

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[Guest guest]

I've been through some very trying times in my past and many had

commented on how string minded I was to be able to deal with it and

not let it consume my personality. they all fiqure that if I got

through that, I can get through anything. and so I try to live up to

that but theres a hudge difference in phychological strength and

physilogical brain damage damage and illness. I'm still strong minded

I have to work at it. I still constantly hear about how strong I am,

it's as if it's a way for no one else to have to realize what this

has done to me, so I find myself still liveing up to that as it

provides others confort. thats alsi why I sometimes fell so utterly

alone in this.hummm, I think thats what I want on my stone " she was a

strong woman,she loved,lived and died,holding hands with nature " . not

that I'm planing on going there anytime soon.

> >I have been reading these " anger " posts and thinking well no one

> wants to hear another story but when you mentioned personality that

> set off my alarms!

> When I moved into my present home (moldy!) 17 years ago I changed

from

> being an easy going person who loved to decorate and design and whom

> nothing or nobody could make angry to a depressed highly pessimistic

> person-this pessimism is what I noticed the most. For years before I

> discovered the mold I kept thinking " didn't I use to be optimistic?

I

> KNOW I was never like this I don;t get it. " But because it was just

so

> unbelievable I ignored it. My house remained unpainted and

unrepaired,

> I suffered all kinds of strange moods and finally, finally I

> discovered the mold and made the connections.

> So I was really " sick " for years before the symptoms got extreme. I

> lost years and my kids were brought up by some moody stranger-not

> me!Now when I have a great day I dig deep for that optimistic

feeling

> that feels like the old me-sometimes it's there!

> Thanks for all the posts-this topic really connected with me and my

> life-Surella

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Joe,

I think that there are a lot of things going on and they can easily

explain people's reactions

if you give it a little thought.

1.) I don't know much about your home situation but I do know that for

me, HEAVILY

urban environments are often less reactive (at least when I am out on

the street) than

more suburban/wooded environments. I think its because of the simple

reason that many woods

contain large amounts of ever-rotting wood and leaves... especially in

the fall, which is the worst

season for me in that respect. (and in fall the contrast between city

and country is the greatest) Home

is a fairly safe zone for me but I get slammed when I go to malls or

big box stores, and also when

I go to areas that have seen recent flooding..

2.) Like you, I react when I get exposed to certain fumes.. I'm less

reactive than I was a few years ago

but only because I avoid them. If I get exposed to them, I get sick

again, pretty quickly.

Other people in the same situation don't. However, by avoiding them,

Ive managed to move beyond the situation

where I get sick by smelling a person's perfume in a store or

something.. (I still avoid cosmetics departments to the point

of keeping a mental map of where they are in stores so I can avoid

even just going near them..because they

can and do ruin my day..I get nausea and migraines from some perfumes..)

3.) Anger? I get angry because of situations. I don't attribute it to

mold illness now.. its a reaction to the

ugliness of our being taken advantage of by those who steal our health

and don't care. But, when I was

really ill, I had panic attacks and anxiety in spades.. it was mostly

because I was (and still am) terrified of not

being able to work and losing so much of my energy and the

implications of that for my and our

(as the human race's) survival.

Because if more and more people keep getting sick,

it will become a real crisis for our society, one we will have to deal

with one way or another.

None of the options at that point will be easy or pretty.

[Guest guest]

Very well said and consumed.

From: LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

Subject: Re: [] Re: Anger

Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 2:50 PM

Joe,

I think that there are a lot of things going on and they can easily

explain people's reactions

if you give it a little thought.

1.) I don't know much about your home situation but I do know that for

me, HEAVILY

urban environments are often less reactive (at least when I am out on

the street) than

more suburban/wooded environments. I think its because of the simple

reason that many woods

contain large amounts of ever-rotting wood and leaves... especially in

the fall, which is the worst

season for me in that respect. (and in fall the contrast between city

and country is the greatest) Home

is a fairly safe zone for me but I get slammed when I go to malls or

big box stores, and also when

I go to areas that have seen recent flooding..

2.) Like you, I react when I get exposed to certain fumes.. I'm less

reactive than I was a few years ago

but only because I avoid them. If I get exposed to them, I get sick

again, pretty quickly.

Other people in the same situation don't. However, by avoiding them,

Ive managed to move beyond the situation

where I get sick by smelling a person's perfume in a store or

something.. (I still avoid cosmetics departments to the point

of keeping a mental map of where they are in stores so I can avoid

even just going near them..because they

can and do ruin my day..I get nausea and migraines from some perfumes..)

3.) Anger? I get angry because of situations. I don't attribute it to

mold illness now.. its a reaction to the

ugliness of our being taken advantage of by those who steal our health

and don't care. But, when I was

really ill, I had panic attacks and anxiety in spades.. it was mostly

because I was (and still am) terrified of not

being able to work and losing so much of my energy and the

implications of that for my and our

(as the human race's) survival.

Because if more and more people keep getting sick,

it will become a real crisis for our society, one we will have to deal

with one way or another.

None of the options at that point will be easy or pretty.

[Guest guest]

I have been dealing with anger for five years. I got sick working in an

infested moldy basement for guess who? The government!

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