Re: Increased pain with GCG use - Why?

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Don't have an answer, just a guess. It's not impossible that you are flushing

stones from the liver and the exit duct from the gallbladder is not of

sufficient elasticity or size to release what is being flushed, and suspect that

what you need is stone softener/reducer and lot of folks on this list are

getting benefits from apple juice. Would suggest that you slow down the flush

types and work on stone softening.

Also, is everybody remembering to take their ornithine capsules at 10:00 PM? I

don't anymore because I ran out. But ornithine relaxes the gallbladder duct

allowing the stones to move out more freely. Would suggest that when you begin

to experience the gallbladder pain that you might try to take some ornithine to

help open the duct.

Jay

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Subject: Increased pain with GCG use - Why?

Hello,

I have been flushing since May 2003. It seems my problems are

becoming worse instead of better. After recent flushes, my

gallbladder swells up and becomes inflamed. This has frightened me

to quit flushing for a spell of 3 months. Next time I flushed same

thing happened. Now trying the Gold Coin Grass tincture for past two

weeks and am experiencing increased pain in gallbladder and liver

area. There is a stiffness in gallbladder area as well as some

cramping. What can this be? What may be the problem? Does anyone

know? Thanks for your help. Dewyeyes

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> I have been flushing since May 2003. It seems my problems are

> becoming worse instead of better. After recent flushes, my

> gallbladder swells up and becomes inflamed. This has frightened me

> to quit flushing for a spell of 3 months. Next time I flushed same

> thing happened. Now trying the Gold Coin Grass tincture for past two

> weeks and am experiencing increased pain in gallbladder and liver

> area. There is a stiffness in gallbladder area as well as some

> cramping. What can this be? What may be the problem? Does anyone

> know? Thanks for your help. Dewyeyes

Hi " Dewyeyes " ,

When was your last flush?

Maybe you should take a break from things that stimulate the

gallbladder to give it a rest, time to recover. When I do the

flush, as I've mentioned here before, I use flax seed oil instead

of olive oil, or 1 part flax to 1 part olive oil, as they are both

good oils. The flax seed oil has anti-inflammatory properties,

and helps for a few days, then I may feel a twinge or some

minimal discomfort, but nothing terrible. I think that the poor

liver and gallbladder are just not used to working much, and

" getting them going " again may be uncomfortable at times.

If you have been flushing a lot, let your body settle a bit

before trying again. If you were doing well for a little while

after the last flush, and have started up again with discomfort

after feeling well for a spell, another flush may be needed.

I'm happy if I get 6 good months after a flush, then it's time

for another. Those are just a few of many possibilities.

Hope you feel better!

L. Meydrech, CN

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[Guest guest]

Jay, what is ornithine and where is it available? Why take it at 10 PM?

Been away for a few weeks and trying to catch up on here.

Judith

>

> Also, is everybody remembering to take their ornithine capsules at 10:00

PM? I don't anymore because I ran out. But ornithine relaxes the

gallbladder duct allowing the stones to move out more freely. Would suggest

that when you begin to experience the gallbladder pain that you might try to

take some ornithine to help open the duct.

>

> Jay

[Guest guest]

<<Jay, what is ornithine and where is it available? Why take it at 10 PM?

Been away for a few weeks and trying to catch up on here.

Judith>>

It's an amino acid associated with liver function and promoted by Hulda as

an adjunct to the gallbladder flush and is used to help relax the bile ducts and

gallbladder openings.

Jay