Guest guest Posted March 18, 2003 Report Share Posted March 18, 2003 Temper temper, Jay. I guess sales aren't going so well at this board. Maybe you should go set up shop down the road somewhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2003 Report Share Posted March 28, 2003 Jeanine are you referring to this one. I'll bet you would love to know how many of these I have...and I'm not telling. I've even got some of yours...so do some other people who just love to read this stuff from poor people like you and Jeff. Dr. Lucca Moretti , a physician specializing in the treatment of AIDS discovered the formula for Master Amino Acid Pattern while researching ways to deal with wasting in AIDS patients. About two years ago Dr. Moretti entered into an agreement with Royal Body Care of Irving Texas to market the Master Amino Acid Pattern world wide. RBC named the product Bio Shape and Protivity and started marketing it. Dr. Moretti and RBC had a falling out and Dr. Moretti stopped selling his product through Royal Body Care. Royal Body Care continues to sell another Amino Acid Formula under the existing brand names Protivity and Bio Shape but these formulae are not 99 per cent utilitizable. Unfortunately there are many web sites on the internet that continue to use the old promotional materials from the days when Moretti and Royal Body Care were working together. It is extremely dangerous for people with challenged livers to use these Royal Body Care products. We have been told by a reliable source that the Bio Shape and Protivity products have been tested and found to be 0 per cent utilizable which means all of the nitrogen is dumped on the liver and kidneys and none of the amino acids are available for tissue formation. In the past I have contacted Royal Body Care to ask about the Net Nitrogen Utilization of their new products marketed under the old Protivity and Bio Shape labels. Officials at the company have refused to disclose the NNU of these products. This leads me to believe the assertions that they are zero percent utilizable are factual. Remember 99 percent utilizable is good, zero per cent utilizable is bad. Dr. Moretti continues to market his invention under the label "Master Amino Acid Pattern". As near as I can tell the link shown on Survival Pack http://www.survivalpack.homestead.com web site is the only place you can purchase this product other than from our friend clive@.... Clive purchases his product directly from Dr. Moretti. I think it is unsafe to attempt to purchase this product from any other source. Obviously Dr. Moretti is not a big bucks entrepreneur and given his experience with Royal Body Care it is easy to understand why he may be reluctant to license this product to anybody else. I try to stock enough for the Survival Packs and as you know I am willing to customize the survival packs to reflect each individual clients use of the products. Sometimes people order a little more or a little less of individual products when they renew their order depending on their consumption and need. I am really not set up to retail all the products. You are getting the taste of what I have gone through over the past two years trying to locate quality products at reasonable prices. You have no idea how many phone calls I have made to retailers, wholesalers and manufacturers. and hours of internet browsing, trying to track down information about how products are made, if they are available and how much they cost. I am confident that as my purchase volume increases I will be able to get better prices and of course I will pass the savings along to my customers. Also I try to support the Hepatitis C web site and forum with donations when I can. Of course I can't do that unless I keep the survival packs moving. I hope this clears up some of the confusion you are having trying to build your own supply. Sincerely, Jeff Jeanine London wrote: Why not show Jay and everyone here your FDA statement stating Flanagan and I are frauds? If you received a reply, then you can put all the rumors and accusations to rest by posting it... if you have received a reply, of course. You can always make one up, like the letter Andy made up from Jeff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2003 Report Share Posted March 28, 2003 Andy, can you tell me why my name is in the subject line? If this was sent to my attention as an example of fraud, I must say it is empty in that regard. It is just marketing although I find at least one of the conclusions specious (the 0 vs. 99% utilization). If I overlooked something in it pertaining to fraud, please let me know. Otherwise I just see competitive marketing statements. JWE Re: [ ] Re: Jay Jeanine are you referring to this one. I'll bet you would love to know how many of these I have...and I'm not telling. I've even got some of yours...so do some other people who just love to read this stuff from poor people like you and Jeff. Dr. Lucca Moretti , a physician specializing in the treatment of AIDS discovered the formula for Master Amino Acid Pattern while researching ways to deal with wasting in AIDS patients. About two years ago Dr. Moretti entered into an agreement with Royal Body Care of Irving Texas to market the Master Amino Acid Pattern world wide. RBC named the product Bio Shape and Protivity and started marketing it. Dr. Moretti and RBC had a falling out and Dr. Moretti stopped selling his product through Royal Body Care. Royal Body Care continues to sell another Amino Acid Formula under the existing brand names Protivity and Bio Shape but these formulae are not 99 per cent utilitizable. Unfortunately there are many web sites on the internet that continue to use the old promotional materials from the days when Moretti and Royal Body Care were working together. It is extremely dangerous for people with challenged livers to use these Royal Body Care products. We have been told by a reliable source that the Bio Shape and Protivity products have been tested and found to be 0 per cent utilizable which means all of the nitrogen is dumped on the liver and kidneys and none of the amino acids are available for tissue formation. In the past I have contacted Royal Body Care to ask about the Net Nitrogen Utilization of their new products marketed under the old Protivity and Bio Shape labels. Officials at the company have refused to disclose the NNU of these products. This leads me to believe the assertions that they are zero percent utilizable are factual. Remember 99 percent utilizable is good, zero per cent utilizable is bad. Dr. Moretti continues to market his invention under the label " Master Amino Acid Pattern " . As near as I can tell the link shown on Survival Pack http://www.survivalpack.homestead.com web site is the only place you can purchase this product other than from our friend clive@.... Clive purchases his product directly from Dr. Moretti. I think it is unsafe to attempt to purchase this product from any other source. Obviously Dr. Moretti is not a big bucks entrepreneur and given his experience with Royal Body Care it is easy to understand why he may be reluctant to license this product to anybody else. I try to stock enough for the Survival Packs and as you know I am willing to customize the survival packs to reflect each individual clients use of the products. Sometimes people order a little more or a little less of individual products when they renew their order depending on their consumption and need. I am really not set up to retail all the products. You are getting the taste of what I have gone through over the past two years trying to locate quality products at reasonable prices. You have no idea how many phone calls I have made to retailers, wholesalers and manufacturers. and hours of internet browsing, trying to track down information about how products are made, if they are available and how much they cost. I am confident that as my purchase volume increases I will be able to get better prices and of course I will pass the savings along to my customers. Also I try to support the Hepatitis C web site and forum with donations when I can. Of course I can't do that unless I keep the survival packs moving. I hope this clears up some of the confusion you are having trying to build your own supply. Sincerely, Jeff Jeanine London wrote: Why not show Jay and everyone here your FDA statement stating Flanagan and I are frauds? If you received a reply, then you can put all the rumors and accusations to rest by posting it... if you have received a reply, of course. You can always make one up, like the letter Andy made up from Jeff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2003 Report Share Posted March 28, 2003 Well Jay I can only suggest the obvious. Miss London accused me of inventing someone who seems to be impersonating her soon to be husband Jeff . I'm sorry I'm not as humorous as the person who did. The profile is a hoot. The only letters I have from Jeff are the ones he has sent to people as a sales pitch for his survival pak. I posted one in my reply. The reason your name is in the subject line is because Jeanine London placed it there. I just replied to her post in the customary manner. Jeanine London wrote: Why not show Jay and everyone here your FDA statement stating Flanagan and I are frauds? If you received a reply, then you can put all the rumors and accusations to rest by posting it... if you have received a reply, of course. You can always make one up, like the letter Andy made up from Jeff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2003 Report Share Posted March 28, 2003 Yea, but that email did not give the “FDA statement stating Flanagan and I are frauds?” Had it, I would have known why you were replying. That’s OK. I understand more of what’s going on. I should have lurked for longer… In Health! JWE Re: [ ] Re: Jay Well Jay I can only suggest the obvious. Miss London accused me of inventing someone who seems to be impersonating her soon to be husband Jeff . I'm sorry I'm not as humorous as the person who did. The profile is a hoot. The only letters I have from Jeff are the ones he has sent to people as a sales pitch for his survival pak. I posted one in my reply. The reason your name is in the subject line is because Jeanine London placed it there. I just replied to her post in the customary manner. Jeanine London wrote: Why not show Jay and everyone here your FDA statement stating Flanagan and I are frauds? If you received a reply, then you can put all the rumors and accusations to rest by posting it... if you have received a reply, of course. You can always make one up, like the letter Andy made up from Jeff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2003 Report Share Posted March 31, 2003 Thanks! The computer I wrote concerning HCV sends mail with my jay@... address. So, someone looked that up, and, low and behold, they see that I am involved in something (a non-profit buyer’s club) that involves money….I have no apologies for that. Those of you who know me know I am anything but a salesman. This is my lifestyle for my entire adult life and what I do to deal with my HCV. I was a member of HCV lists before I had the buyer’s club and don’t feel I should be limited or cut apart for that reason. I get enough people writing to me. I am not trying to solicit new customers. I learn from these lists. Bullies who interfere with the free and respectful exchange of communication irk me. However, I have one more email and then disengage from responding to any inappropriate emails. Thanks again. In Health! Jay [ ] Jay Jay: I would like to thank you for the advice you have given to me since you joined this group. I am sorry that you are being treated so poorly by . I have never seen anything posted by you that even suggests that you are trying to sell a product or a cure. I hope you will remain with this group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2003 Report Share Posted April 1, 2003 Hi , I'm sure Jay will stay--he knows we need him! Now that you've been around awhile, you can obviously separate the wheat from the chaff......peace, Satya [ ] Jay Jay: I would like to thank you for the advice you have given to me since you joined this group. I am sorry that you are being treated so poorly by . I have never seen anything posted by you that even suggests that you are trying to sell a product or a cure. I hope you will remain with this group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2003 Report Share Posted April 1, 2003 HI All, I am still here but had to take a break to let loose of some toxins that weighed on me a bit. It is nice to see some healing and learning going on again. I was attracted to this site because of the people here and look forward to continuing to learn from you all. In Health! Jay Re: [ ] Jay Hi , I'm sure Jay will stay--he knows we need him! Now that you've been around awhile, you can obviously separate the wheat from the chaff......peace, Satya [ ] Jay Jay: I would like to thank you for the advice you have given to me since you joined this group. I am sorry that you are being treated so poorly by . I have never seen anything posted by you that even suggests that you are trying to sell a product or a cure. I hope you will remain with this group. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: -unsubscribeegroups Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 Thanks so much for your responses. I have been to Children's Hopital in New Olreans, and one military hospital, and I am going to a Univeristy teaching clinic at UCSD and I am at Children's in Sand Diego as well. We have excellent docs, but unfortunatley he just hasn't exhibited enough or at least anything consistent enough to determine what he does or doesn't have. Thanks again, I will be lurking here to see what you all go thru with your children. Thanks for allowing be to join. Jay Mom to: 5 1/2 yrs oold Mathieu 20 1/2 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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