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At 12:53 AM 4/12/04 +0000, you wrote:

> >But I did read somewhere that dieting and fasting can bring on

>gallstones.<

Edie,

I also read that on several medical sites. I have been a little

concerned that changing my diet rather suddenly to avoid fatty foods could

actually create more stones! I'm trying to balance that possibility by

eating the " good fats " such as avocado. Just an idea.

BTW, I don't quite meet the " f profile " (I'm around 15-20lbs overweight &

most people would never guess it) but like you am 38 and female! Lucky for

me (I guess) my gb problems didn't start until about a year ago. Talk

about a wake up call! I've always had the feeling that my [somewhat] bad

eating habits would come back to bite me. I try to be grateful that it's

this and not cancer.

I guess I'm not the only night owl out there ...

Ronna

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<<> >But I did read somewhere that dieting and fasting can bring on

>gallstones.<

Edie,

I also read that on several medical sites. I have been a little

concerned that changing my diet rather suddenly to avoid fatty foods could

actually create more stones! I'm trying to balance that possibility by

eating the " good fats " such as avocado. Just an idea.>>

It is the loss of one's own fat during dieting that causes the gallstones and if

you Yo-Yo diet, it increases the accumulation dramatically.

Jay

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> I was wondering how many of you here don't fit the fat, female,

> fourty profile. I was actually shocked the first time I read that!

> I'm 38, female, been having attacks since my early 20's and

weight

> 115 soaking wet!

i actually fit most of 'em. but was still clueless what was

happening when i had my first attack (ER visit and all) - most

pregnancy books don't mention the increased risk of stones

during or after pregnancy, despite how common it seems to be.

Fat - unfortunately so, probably a good 30lb above where i

should be, and was as much as 60lb over before breastfeeding

and recent dietary changes have started to get off some of the

extra fluff.

Female - check.

Fair - blonde/green. yup.

Fertile - first attack (january of this year) was 1 month to the day

after my son was born.

Forty - not for 9 more years.

since this is my official de-lurk, i guess i might as well blather on

a little bit more about why i'm here and what i'm trying.

i've done 3 good flushes so far and a few more mini-flushes (in

the midst of attacks). i plan to do my next flush this tuesday night

if all goes well. my last was 3 weeks ago and yielded maybe

about 1/8 cup of mostly small stones, a few dark but most bright

green. previous flushes have yielded more dark stones than this

last - not sure what that means, if anything.

i've not had an attack in several weeks, though have felt on the

edge of one a few times after meals. this is still a nice

improvement from a month and a half ago, when i was

averaging one attack per week and had discomfort after almost

every meal (i'm guessing that was inflammation).

i'm taking a bunch of stuff each day, about 1/2 for my liver, 1/4 for

milk supply (has anyone else noticed that many liver health

promoters are also galactagogues?), and the final 1/4 for

general nutrition jic i'm missing anything vital in my daily meals.

the big list: lechithin, milk thistle, malic acid, choline &

inositol,

vitamin c, generic women's multivitamin, calcium/magnesium

blend, and blessed thistle. i occasionally take optiflora, but not

often because it seems to correlate with my son having a lot of

gas (though that could just be a coincidence).

i've also taken to making and eating a lot of granola for fiber and

good fats (oats, honey, apple juice, almonds, cashews,

sunflower seeds, flaxseeds, and wheat berries plus a few other

odds and ends), as i realized my previous diet was severely

lacking in fiber. i've also rediscovered and old childhood favorite -

applesauce, and enjoy it with many meals.

i have a copy of " the liver cleansing diet " and practically live on

one of the soup recipes in there for lunch each day, but can't go

full out on the diet in part due to laziness but in larger part

because i'm breastfeeding and need more fat in my diet than it

seems many of the meals suggested there would give me. so

it's a delicate balancing act right now planning and eating meals,

as i'm sure it is for many of us.

::: lori

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