Guest guest Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 I am slowly moving towards the approach recommended by JULIA CHANG at the www.sensiblehealth.com/#Topic Gallstones site. Has anyone here tried this regimen? If so, how did it go? This site goes into wonderful detail about the 5 Element rationale for the condition, both from the viewpoint of the liver and the gb. Of course, you really can't have a sick gb without first having a problem in the liver. The Chinese are all over the liver seeing it as the master organ and the root of many chronic health problems. Specifically, I am curious to see if anyone has treated themselves with the products she recommends and sells? Obviously, many have a Western corollary as well. I've listed below the products that seem to be the most interesting and most applicable for us: 1) CHINESE GENTIAN & BUPLEURUM ( " CHINESE BITTERS " ) -- Used for a month before a cleansing to decongest the liver and to increase the energy flow through it. 2) COPTIS-- To stimulate bile flow. Good if the gb has been taken out. 3) GOLD COIN GRASS--To " soften and crush " the stones prior to a cleansing. Also used with CORN SILK for kidney stone disolution. 4) CURCUMA--- Used with GCG to increase the energy flow through the liver and gb. If you haven't seen the site, do go there and add it to your library. I have found advice there that I've never seen elsewhere. Her dietary advice is also slightly different than the Western approach so I am curious if anyone here has tried it. She does a good job of fielding all the variations, fears and complications that could occur with a flush, and gives clear advice as to how to get back on track again. Women with uterine conditions such as fibroids or endometriosis will be intrigued how she combines therapy for these conditions as well. Thanks, Will in Minneapolis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am slowly moving towards the approach recommended by JULIA CHANG at the www.sensiblehealth.com/#Topic Gallstones site. Has anyone here tried this regimen? If so, how did it go? This site goes into wonderful detail about the 5 Element rationale for the condition, both from the viewpoint of the liver and the gb. Of course, you really can't have a sick gb without first having a problem in the liver. The Chinese are all over the liver seeing it as the master organ and the root of many chronic health problems. Specifically, I am curious to see if anyone has treated themselves with the products she recommends and sells? Obviously, many have a Western corollary as well. I've listed below the products that seem to be the most interesting and most applicable for us: 1) CHINESE GENTIAN & BUPLEURUM ( " CHINESE BITTERS " ) -- Used for a month before a cleansing to decongest the liver and to increase the energy flow through it. 2) COPTIS-- To stimulate bile flow. Good if the gb has been taken out. 3) GOLD COIN GRASS--To " soften and crush " the stones prior to a cleansing. Also used with CORN SILK for kidney stone disolution. 4) CURCUMA--- Used with GCG to increase the energy flow through the liver and gb. If you haven't seen the site, do go there and add it to your library. I have found advice there that I've never seen elsewhere. Her dietary advice is also slightly different than the Western approach so I am curious if anyone here has tried it. She does a good job of fielding all the variations, fears and complications that could occur with a flush, and gives clear advice as to how to get back on track again. Women with uterine conditions such as fibroids or endometriosis will be intrigued how she combines therapy for these conditions as well. Thanks, Will in Minneapolis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will; is a member of this group and has been since it was GroupOne, long before it was the group. She is still a member today. I called and talked with back in 1999 when I was first dealing with the problem of whether to do a flush or get my gallbladder cut out. I also got two bottles of the Gold Coin Grass and started taking that to reduce the size of the stone it was reported I had. I was only told I had a large single stone and that my gallbladder was thickened and in danger of bursting. It was also explained to me that it probably had not been working properly for the last ten years. Generally speaking the process of therapies for most all of them have to do with helping the liver do its job more efficiently. Just the process of clearing the bowels is doing something for the liver. So, enemas, colemas, or colonics do a lot for the liver and therefore the gallbladder and pancreas too. Personally I took on a number of regiments to determine what I would be doing. It really boiled down to simply avoiding all fats, taking the gold coin grass, and then doing the flushes. The only really bad mistake I made was to avoid all forms of fats for a bit over a month form August of 99 to October when I had my last and worst attack to date, which it turns out was a liver and not gallbladder attack because it was being damaged from my avoiding essential fats. The ultra sound done at the hospital showed my gallbladder was no longer thickened and that my liver looked good excepting the enlarged bile ducts, which I assumed had occurred from the flushing of the stones, and that there were no stones to be found anywhere. Today I still watch what I eat and try to eat for my liver. In fact, I just yesterday I was nibbling all day on olives that I get as a mixed variety. They are good for fiber and taste pretty darn good too especially the ones that I get stuffed with garlic, blue cheese, apricot or some other off the wall designer olive mix. (started me chuckling to think of this, designer olives. Oh, how preppy we are in this group) Dale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 In a message dated 4/20/2004 5:37:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, holistic@... writes: > I am slowly moving towards the approach recommended by > JULIA CHANG at the www.sensiblehealth.com/#Topic > Gallstones site. Has anyone here tried this regimen? If so, how > did it go? > Will: You might be interested to know that one of our acupuncture specialists here (treats people, dogs and fancy horses) uses the sensiblehealth products. I was there with my dog and whining about my gallbaldder (maybe the wrong one of us was being treated). She said she lost her GB as a result of a bad pancreatitis attack but she used 's herbs regularly to keep everything in good shape in her system and she periodically flushed. It sounded like this had taken place a number of years ago and she was a long time fan of and sensible health. The acupuncturist is from Colorado and now is in Georgia, neither handy to Toronto so it sounds like these products have a good reputation beyond their local trade area. (Atlanta) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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