To Soy or Not to Soy? That's my question.

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Hi Tina,

Thank you very much for your insightful comments and website. I really had no

idea about cooking in foil...gee, what next, eh? Makes sense, though, when

you consider that microwaving in plastic causes migration of toxic chemicals.

I must admit, the only thing I'm surprised about is avoiding soy products.

All the advice out there seems to encourage soy use for middle-aged women going

through the change and I thought I was doing " the right thing " . There also

seems to be some controversy about the use of soy in relation to gall stones.

Some say it's good...some say not. Here's one site, which includes studies that

seem to promote soy as very beneficial. You have to scroll to the end to view

dietary advice.

www.chem-tox.com/gallstones/index.htm

I've been drinking at least a cup a day of soy milk for the past year having

substituted it for milk in fruit smoothies for breakfast. I also started

having gall stone attacks this past November. Coincidence? Hmmm...hard to say

(actually don't believe in coincidences!), though I would be interested to hear

what the general concensus is, here in the group, about soy-based vegetable

proteins and their effects on the liver/gall bladder.

Thanks everyone!! You're all giving me such an education!

Blessings, n

>>>1. Read www.mercola.com, sign on to his newsletter and read his book.

2. Don't eat soy

3. Reduce your consumption of wheat and dairy

4. Don't cook in foil, aluminum is toxic to the body

5. Don't eat sugar

6. Don't microwave cook

7. Don't eat pork, shrimp, crab or tuna

8. Exercise daily

Tina<<<

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Hi Ronna,

Thanks for your response....

>>>I've also been using soy in place of milk - ESP. since having more

frequent gb attacks. So far, no attacks since using soy and watching

fat.<<<

It gets curiouser and curiouser. I'm just not sure what to make of this soy

issue. It's confusing with such conflicting info. I agree it makes a nice

substitute for milk, so glad to hear you haven't had any attacks while on it.

))

>>>(Though without the negative feedback of an attack, I find I'm getting

less and less restrictive on the fat intake. I find it so hard to go

without the sweets that I love so much.)<<<

Yeah, it's easy to fall back into old ways, isn't it? I keep eyeing my kids'

cadbury cream eggs, but being a very good girl! A friend who suffered from

bulimia has a wise philosophy on food. She says that she had to re-learn what

eating was all about...that is was a means of nurturing the body, rather than

filling her emotional void. In a sense, we in the west are all addicted to the

rich supply of food we see everyday in our supermarkets - though perhaps in not

such a dramatic way as an eating disorder.

My chiro is of the " opinion " that gall stones 'may' be caused by certain food

allergies. And, of course, that there are good and not such good fats and

it's just a question of eliminating the bad stuff and then reintroducing good

foods to see what makes the gb react. Seems to make sense, although I am so new

to all this that I can only speculate. It's a step-by-step relearning thing, I

suppose.

Blessings, n

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n,

I haven't read a lot about why one should avoid soy, but I

have been using soy milk in place of milk in cereal, tea, etc.

every day for several years, and use it with my protein

powder, which also contains soy. I like tofu in recipes on

occasion, too. So it is part of my daily diet. I had trouble

with gallstones before I ate soy products.

It is my understanding that there are things beneficial in

soy that fight against breast cancer and other things. The

active property that you may want to research is

genistein, " a particular isoflavonoid in soy that helps protect

the body " according to the description of a product called

Phyto-Soy:

http://www.mynsp.com/web/meydrech/products.jsp?stocknum=49815

Since it's part of a description of a product, they can't be

specific about what parts of the body it helps, but the biggest

benefit according to my understanding is protecting against

breast cancer. You may want to do a search on " genistein "

using google or other search engine.

Just wanted you to know that there is someone out there that

loves soy, and unless someone really gives me a good scare

as to why not to use it, will continue to love it.

L. Meydrech, CN

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> > I've also been using soy in place of milk - ESP. since having more

frequent gb attacks. So far, no attacks since using soy and watching

fat.

(Though without the negative feedback of an attack, I find I'm getting

less and less restrictive on the fat intake. I find it so hard to go

without the sweets that I love so much.)

Ronna

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