Guest guest Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 A couple years ago I was having a conversation with a good friend who was an R.N. at a hospital. She had worked there for several years. When I was telling her I wanted to try and save my gallbladder and that I figured, through worsening symptoms, I would have warning if the thickening got any worse, before the thing burst or went gangrene on me, she adamantly responded that that would not necessarily be the case. She then told me of an older woman they had just had as a patient in her unit. The woman started having pretty severe pains in her abdominal or stomach area (I can't remember which). Upon testing they found her gallbladder was, in fact, gangrenous and they took it out. According to my friend, this woman had had no other symptoms previously. I find it hard to believe that she did not experience anything previously. Perhaps there was something and she just ignored it. Perhaps even the doctors exaggerated her situation. But my friend was convinced there were no symptoms in this woman prior to the sudden onset of severe pain. I doubt greatly this is common, but you're always going to find the odd person here or there who presents no or unusual symptoms for a given disorder. AMDG, Colleen K. ----- Original Message ----- From: Will Winter gallstones Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 8:18 PM Subject: Case History I've been fairly unsuccessful in my search for the worst-case-scenario GB story, and I have to admit I am still sceptical about the rate of occurrance of ruptured GBs. I hear tangential references but have not talked to anyone who can show me a confirmed case. It is not in any of the medical textbooks that I've searched. This issue is important to me because I've been warned by conservative types who tell me I'm playing with fire by not having surgery. (They won't faze me but I'd like to have some statistics to throw back at them). This week I was at a small local store and saw the owner whom I know but had not seen all winter. We got to discussing how our winters were (Minnesotans do that) and when he heard about my GB and pancreatitis experiences last fall, here's the story he told me about his winter. CASE HISTORY: JS was getting a physical prior to having cataract surgery when the doctors noticed a slightly elevated wbc and liver enzymes. Palpation resulted in a diagnosis of cholecytiasis and he was prepped for a laporscopic cholesystectomy. Surgery (on the day before Christmas Eve) was without problems but the surgeon told him that his GB was gangrenous and very close to rupture, " good thing he had the surgery " . Prior to this, there were NO major liver or GB symptoms at all, just the occasional Tums event, it was an incidental finding. JS is about 55, very obese with a washtub-sized gut, he is very sedentary, he pretty much lives on junk food and drinks coffee all day.Running his business is pretty stressful as well. I think he was also a former smoker too. He's not had any complications from the surgery and went in several weeks later for the cataract surgery. He says he has gained even more weight since the surgery, but that he can eat whatever he wants (correlation? Nah..). What I found interesting is that when I asked him if he had had stones, he didn't know. They didn't say. Neither did he see the tissue from the surgery. I've asked him if he could possibly get me a copy of the pathology report on the GB that was removed. I will be real curious to see what conditon it was in. Was the surgeon exaggerating the damage to justify the removal? I find it incredible that JS has this supposedly necrotic pathological GB mess inside, no telling how long in formation and yet no symptoms! They sure made a fast diagnosis as well. Of course, he was given no options other than surgery. I will let you know what I find if I can get that pathology report. Meanwhile, if you know where I can find reports of actual cases, let me know. BTW, don't worry, I won't tell my friend he did the " wrong thing " , or anything else, no matter what I find. I told him I was studying the GB for my own health interests, which is true. 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Guest guest Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 In a message dated 5/29/2004 9:19:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, holistic@... writes: > will let you know what I find if I can get that pathology report. > Meanwhile, if > you know where I can find reports of actual cases, let me know. BTW, don't > worry Hey Will: Did you ever see the report on this? (Surely winter is over in Minnesota and you guys are moving around now without snowmobiles and ice skates <G>) Best, (Atlanta) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 Gloria thank you. Would be great to get more of these stories. I am treating Lyme and coinfections and possibly mold with MMS -- I take about 12 drops about 5 days per week. Recently went up. It has really made a difference for me. --- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@...> wrote: > > Gloria Thanks for your contribution and testimony. I also have had great success with skin tags ect bathing with mms. Reading your symptoms have you considered adding MSM to your diet and treatment also? > http://falconblanco.com/health/msm/faq.html > > --- In , Gloria Bloore <Jennidays@> wrote: > > > > Hi- > > I have been using MMS for about 8 months now. I used it every day for about 6 weeks. I then followed with taking 5 to 8 drops 2 - 4 times in one day about every 3 days. My problems are Th-1 problems (includes candida), fibromyalgia, COPD, morbid obesity and skin problems. I have found that it works better for me to take 4 to 8 drops after I eat anything with sugar in it in order to keep down skin itching. I bathe in it as often as possible (which isn't very often in our household) but use 50 drops of activated MMS in a very large tub. What it seems to be doing for me is letting my immune system go to work and I am not getting worse. I have had warts completely break down on my arms and one leg. I plan on making up the maple syrup candies for my candida problems as well as use the cream of tartar. > > I am starting a low gluten and anti-inflammatory diet this week. I expect to be following that for a year and a half or so - and likely will continue it (within reason) the rest of my life. I am so grateful to use the MMS for punching holes in the biofilms of the th-1 problem. I read everything I could get hold of before starting this regimen and am not sorry I have done it. I am in the habit of listening to my body as it lets me know when to use the MMS internally. > > Glo > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 Afternoon Gloria… Thanks so much for more information. On the off days do you take any antioxidants? I have had warts completely break down on my arms and one leg. Would you attribute this to oral or did you notice it after the baths? I have found that it works better for me to take 4 to 8 drops after I eat anything with sugar in it in order to keep down skin itching. Didn’t realize it could cause skin itching…so with sugar no itch. Good to know…THANKS rose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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