You are not alone, Will; was: Re: I'm trying a different dietary approach

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Will,

Have you by any chance read " Nourishing Traditions " by Sally Fallon

with G. Enig, Ph.D.?

From the cover: " The Cookbook that Challenges Politically Correct

Nutrition and the Diet Dictocrates " .

From the back of the book: " The Diet Dictocrats don't want you to

know that...Your body needs old-fashioned animal fats [as opposed to

the modern kind]. New-fangled polyunsaturated oils can be bad for

you. Modern whole grain products can cause health problems.

Traditional sauces promote digestion and assimilation. Modern food

processing denatures our foods but Ancient preservation methods

actually increase nutrients in fruits, nuts, vegetable, meats and

milk [raw-especially goat] products!

The book makes several references to the Weston A. Price

foundation. I'm looking to improve my diet to the extent that

maintenence flushing is all I need. It's clear to me that there is

no one size fits all approach to diet. Eating healthy fats is

definitly essential to long term liver health. Some people need

more than others. Some need very little. Search the archives of

all Dale's old posts for a good education on the necessity of good

fats in the diet. He's helped a lot of people by sticking around

here this long and sharing his experiences.

Keep on learning

Vince

--- In gallstones , " Will Winter " <holistic@v...>

wrote:

> This is a first time post for me. I have been reading the back

messages from

> the past couple of months and I think I have gotten a general feel

for what is

> recommended here.

>

> PAYING MY DUES TO ENTER THIS GROUP:

> After about 10 GB attacks (1-2X a month) I was hospitalized in

August of

> 2003 with severe gallstone pancreatitis (Ashcroft disease,

yipes!). I

> successfully avoided any and all invasive surgical procedures but

was

> hospitalized for 11 days, could have died, and racked up an

enormous

> medical bill. To get released I agreed to come back for the big

surgical " cure " ,

> knowing then I would never do this except as a last resort.

>

> Since release from the hospital I have had another 8-10 attacks

(no hospital

> trips) and quite a bit of pain, but I am learning more with each

subsequent

> attack. HAD I KNOWN A YEAR AGO WHAT IS IN THIS MESSAGE BOARD

> (and followed it!), I would have never had to be taken to the

hospital and I

> wouldn't be in debt! Every attack teaches me something. I learn

slowly and

> only by pain, it seems.

>

> The latest 3 attacks were last week and I did successful

intervention with

> fasting, epsom salts, castor packs, rescue remedy, enzymes, and

stress

> management. In the process I passed several hundred stones after

one of

> the midnight attacks. This was the FIRST concrete evidence I've

seen that I

> am making forward progress. Ever since being released, I have been

afraid

> of doing a real cleansing flush since the ultrasounds had shown

about a

> dozen 2 cm stones (the sticking size). So I decided to stick with

the

> DISSOLVING plan with diet, exercise, weight loss, stress-

management, malic

> acid, apple juice, enzymes, hydrangia and several other herbs.

>

> DIET CHANGE:

> Where I differ from what all the others are doing and/or

recommending on

> this discussion group is that I am EATING LOTS OF HEALTHY FAT. Let

me

> explain. I had been on a low-fat diet for almost 30 years and a

vegetarian

> most of that time. However, in the 2-3 years prior to the big melt-

down my

> diet was corrupted by increased stress, too much cheap greasy

food, and too

> much food in general (a dark era in my life, alas). I had actually

gotten a bit

> too heavy which is not by body type at all. (The hospital trip

took care of that

> 30 extra pounds). A really bad knee injury had also curtailed all

good

> exercise. I made a whole LAUNDRY LIST of reasons I got sick in the

clear

> light of coming out of the hospital. Lots of sweaty midnight

promises to the

> gods followed.

>

> Coincidentally, I had become convinced by a year or so of

studying the work

> from the people associated with the Weston A. Price Foundation

> (www.westonaprice.com) and other like-minded scientists who

maintain that

> low fat diets, and especially high simple carb diets, can actually

help CAUSE

> the syndrome (along with stress, low water intake, sedentary life,

obesity,

> predispositions, et.al). This dietary approach also maintains that

ONLY by

> eating a " normal " fatty diet can one have a lifetime of normal

bile flow and

> regular bile flushing. Additionally, people living on the diet

that is the

> " standard " recommendation for GB patients, i.e. a restricted,

bland diet, will

> have the inevitable binges or slips and thus make themselves prone

to a

> nasty flare up. It's also not the real joyous life that we all

need, crave and

> perhaps deserve.

>

> I had only just begun moving towards their total plan when I got

the

> obstruction unfortunately. Nor had I done any flushing or

cleansing (I didn't

> know I was loaded with stones, I was told I had the gerd

syndrome). In

> retrospect, I don't think the natural diet was causal of my

obstruction, but my

> several-year-long stress filled, sedentary, french-fry-eating type

of lifestyle

> caused the chronic damage and maybe even the subsequent crisis.

>

> MY QUESTION....

>

> So, after all this, I am wondering if anyone else here is

exploring the basic

> work of flushing, cleansing and healing the liver/gall bladder ----

IN ADDITION

> TO---- changing their dietary standards by slowly getting back to

eating this

> full, NATURAL, rich. " old-fashioned " 1900-era farmer diet? Am I

all alone in

> this pursuit?

>

> Will in Minneapolis