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In a message dated 4/1/2004 3:17:52 PM Eastern Standard Time,

sylviabeth@... writes:

> I have cut out all sugar and eat very little to no meat. Actually, I have

> increased nausea so I am eating very little of anything! I am trying to eat

> a lot of

My naturopath took a similiar route to Mama's. I was told to have a bland

diet -- salt and pepper, no spice, a tsp of oil a day total on all my foods,

brown rice, lots of veggies, fresh apple juice and apples and pears, a little

chicken -- I think there are a few more things, but you get the idea. The

supplements I used were milk thistle, dandelion, burdock, and some chinese

herbs.

Nothing " hot " and spicy since the GB was already hot. This was not a long term

plan, just designed to quiet down the inflammation.

I was even told to start slow on beet juice and other things provoking to the

GB (even in a good way) to get it soothed and the inflammation down.

Oh, I forgot, the colon has to get cleaned out and stay cleaned out. I take

herbal colon cleaner caps daily and also a Hi Lipase(enzyme) to keep the sludge

in the GB from getting too congealed.

Try Mama's plan for a week and see what happens. She also wrote a few weeks

ago what she did when she was having an attack, which was pretty soothing and

seemed smart to me...I would certainly try it -- it was tea and lemon juice

and/or grapefruit juice and water I think, and gentle stretching to open up the

GB area.

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Pleas describe a gall bladder attack? This may sound crazy but I do not know

what I am experiencing.

Glenny

----- Original Message -----

From: Beth Baugh

gallstones

Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 3:15 PM

Subject: Help - gallbladder inflammed for two weeks now!

Hello everyone!

Please help me if you can. My gallbladder has been inflamed for over two

weeks now. I have found that the olive oil flushing no longer can work for me

because it just increases the inflammation. My doctor is alarmed at me for not

having it removed. He says it can burst or turn gangrene. I have to admit I am

frightened by those words, yet I have read so many horror stories of the results

of gb removal. Does anyone know how I can save my gb at this point? Am I

beyond the point of no return?

I have cut out all sugar and eat very little to no meat. Actually, I have

increased nausea so I am eating very little of anything! I am trying to eat a

lot of pineapple (fresh) as well as lots of Aloe Vera Juice, both are supposed

to be could for inflammation. And I am taking probiotics and other supplements

(when I am not too nauseated!) Last night my gb swoll up and is still like that

today. But the burning sensation is beginning to diminish since I started the

pineapple and aloe. I am drinking as much water as I can get down. I was

taking cayenne tincture but quit yesterday wondering if this might be

aggravating my problem.

My attacks come more often and more easily now. It only takes a bite of

something too spicey and I will be down the next day with an attack. This

usually occurs where I have an occasion to eat in a restaurant or in someone

else's home where I have no control over the cooking.

I have been wearing castor oil packs daily and find if I don't wear them now,

I am worse off. But even with the packs, I am in pain on my right with nausea,

dizziness, and feelings of fainting at times. I cannot sleep on my left side or

my back because of the swelling. I have even developed something called

bacterial arthritis in my left shoulder. I read that this can result from

inflammation of the gallbladder, lungs or kidneys. Sounds like a lot bacteria

floating around in my body! I am really afraid that my gb will burst. Has

anyone saved their gb from a condition such as mine? If so, please tell me what

you did!

BTW, I am planning to use a clay poultice in my gb tonight. I am just hoping

that this will draw out some of the inflammation and restore me to some better

health. If this isn't a good idea, please tell me.

thanks to everyone,

Dewyeyes

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Dear Deweyeyes,

There does sometimes come a point when your condition has progressed too far and

there is no more that you can do, then you MUST have your Gallbladder removed

for the reasons that your doctor has given you. None of us are able to advise

you whether it has gone that far for you as we cannot see you so YOU must calmly

assess your situation and listen to what your instinct is telling you.

I will be praying for you as soon as I have typed this message and will continue

to do so.

How many flushes have you done over what period of time? Possibly you have just

seriously over irritated your GB and you need to let it recover? Have you had

bloodwork done to assess liver enzymes, white bloodcell count etc? Are you

jaundiced?

Are you able to find a Naturopath in your area who has experience in GB disease?

This is so important in helping with your stress levels which affect your liver.

Which area are you in? Maybe someone on the list knows of someone in your area.

I was told to take a natural antibiotic - Olive Leaf www.naturesway.com Normally

I was told to take 1, three times per day but in extreme illness I was told to

take 2, four times per day for two days, then reduce it to the normal. Maybe you

could investigate this?

When I first discharged myself from hospital my naturopath/nutricianist put me

on a two week diet with NO meat or protein whatsoever to ease the pressure off

my liver and gallbladder. I had 1T organic Apple Cider Vinegar (I now have fresh

lemon juice) in a glass of warm water first thing in the morning. Half an hour

later I had 2 Acidophilus and Bifidus capsules with two glasses of warm water.

Starting half an hour later I ate 6 small meals spaced out over the day. First

up organic muesli with rice milk, then Lots (well I wasn't eating a great deal)

of raw vegetables in salad with garlic, organic cider vinegar, and flaxseed oil

dressing, stir fried veg (onion, cauli, brocolli, red pepper) for dinner with

garlic and organic Tamari, lots of raw vegetable juice (including beet) during

the day, Madura green tea (caffeine/tannin free) twice per day. 2 Flaxseed oil

capsules with three meals and I sipped freshly squeezed lemon juice in water

when I wasn't eating/drinking anything else. I also took Milk Thistle capsules.

I think that's all :o\

Incidentally I was told NOT to eat pineapple or any spices.

I don't know whether any of this will help you or whether it is even right for

your body type but at least you can investigate whether these things might help

you.

Many Blessings

Mama.

----- Original Message -----

From: Beth Baugh

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Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 8:15 AM

Subject: Help - gallbladder inflammed for two weeks now!

Hello everyone!

Please help me if you can. My gallbladder has been inflamed for over two

weeks now. I have found that the olive oil flushing no longer can work for me

because it just increases the inflammation. My doctor is alarmed at me for not

having it removed. He says it can burst or turn gangrene. I have to admit I am

frightened by those words, yet I have read so many horror stories of the results

of gb removal. Does anyone know how I can save my gb at this point? Am I

beyond the point of no return?

I have cut out all sugar and eat very little to no meat. Actually, I have

increased nausea so I am eating very little of anything! I am trying to eat a

lot of pineapple (fresh) as well as lots of Aloe Vera Juice, both are supposed

to be could for inflammation. And I am taking probiotics and other supplements

(when I am not too nauseated!) Last night my gb swoll up and is still like that

today. But the burning sensation is beginning to diminish since I started the

pineapple and aloe. I am drinking as much water as I can get down. I was

taking cayenne tincture but quit yesterday wondering if this might be

aggravating my problem.

My attacks come more often and more easily now. It only takes a bite of

something too spicey and I will be down the next day with an attack. This

usually occurs where I have an occasion to eat in a restaurant or in someone

else's home where I have no control over the cooking.

I have been wearing castor oil packs daily and find if I don't wear them now,

I am worse off. But even with the packs, I am in pain on my right with nausea,

dizziness, and feelings of fainting at times. I cannot sleep on my left side or

my back because of the swelling. I have even developed something called

bacterial arthritis in my left shoulder. I read that this can result from

inflammation of the gallbladder, lungs or kidneys. Sounds like a lot bacteria

floating around in my body! I am really afraid that my gb will burst. Has

anyone saved their gb from a condition such as mine? If so, please tell me what

you did!

BTW, I am planning to use a clay poultice in my gb tonight. I am just hoping

that this will draw out some of the inflammation and restore me to some better

health. If this isn't a good idea, please tell me.

thanks to everyone,

Dewyeyes

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<<This usually occurs where I have an occasion to eat in a restaurant or in

someone else's home where I have no control over the cooking. >>

Deweyeyes:

I had another thought for you. Could you take your own food when you eat at

someone's home? I doubt they will be offended since you have been seriously

ill and you are not asking them to cook something special for you.

I make a pot of lentils or split peas that I eat on for the week and it would

be an easy meal to pack up and take with you. Split peas or lentils with rice

is a low-fat wholesome filling meal and if you cook them with lots of

vegetable (I usually use carrots, onions, sometimes celery, maybe a turnip or

two)

they are a meal in a bowl.

Most restaurants are accomodating of food issues since so many people are

allergic to things and with the Atkins diet they have had to become very

flexible. You could prob get a vegetarian low-fat meal then ask for sliced

grilled

chicken if you wanted to up the protein content since cheese if not a good idea

with gb issues.

Hope this idea helps you find a way to accommodate your needs long enough to

determine if you can really get this gb thing under control or if you need to

think seriously about surgery.

Best wishes,

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