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Hi ! Lori ,

Here is a website you might want to try -

http://home.san.rr.com/t/treatment.html , hope it helps . You

will enter Autism Network Resources for Physicians , the Kirkman

Lab . info will be over on the left side near Diagnostic Laboratories

Links . Something else I've just learned and this is from a parent

with a 22 yr.old son , DS . She told me this over the phone and also

a newsletter that she distributes P.I.E. (Parent Information Exchange

for children with special needs . I'm still researching on it . Flax

Seed Oil , Other Nutritional Supplments Can Reduce Attention Deficit -

Flax Seed Oil is probably the most remarkable source of nutirtion in

our entire food chain . Flax oil contains all the essential amino

acids (protein building blocks). It is a rich source of vitamins A,

B1,B2,C,D, and E. It contains all major minerals including

potassium,phosphorus magnesium , calcium , sulphur , iron , and zinc,

as well as the important trace minerals

manganese,silicon,copper,nickel,cobalt,iodine,chromium,and selenium .

All of these vitamins and minerals seem to strengthen brain

activity). Flax oil is the best source of essentials fatty acids

(EFAs). The essential fatty acid (EFAS)are linolenic acid and

linoleic acid . EFAS cannot be manufactured by your body . they must

be consumed in your daily diet . They serve to help control

cholesterol and prevent cardiovascular disease . They play a major

role in transporting oxygen to every cell in your body . Many cells

in people with cerebal palsy and other disabilities are oxygen

deprived . EFAS help in detoxifying your intestinal tract, kidneys ,

liver, lungs, and skin . EFAS play a major role in controlling

chromosomes during cell division . As such they are absotutely

necessary in the development of new cells and new membranes .

Deficicies have been linked to arthritis , psychological problems ,

liver and kidney damage, poor circulation , poor vision , hair loss ,

skin diseases , severe weakness ,dryness of the mucous membranes ,

and menstrual and reproductive problems . Good Luck !

Irma , 12 DS/ASD/MR

- In @y..., " Lori Ali " <lali@a...> wrote:

> Hi everyone,

>

> I can't remember where anyone who is using col, where they got it,

was it Kirchmans does anyone have the web site, I had a doctor

suggest I try it for Tommy and I would like to.

>

> No adverese reactions to the ritalin, just not to much improvement,

he is 42 pnds and only on 2.5 mg twice a day, I think we may need to

try 5mg. Hope everyone had a great Easter weekend.

>

> Lori mom to 12, Shayne 9 and Tommy 6 1/2 ds,autism,adhd,

crohns

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Is Flax oil as good as Cod Liver Oil?

mother to two beautiful children

Tristan 2

Lorna, 7 months

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Nourishes your body at the cellular level

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Protects your tissues and cells against toxins

Strengthens your immune system

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>

> What state are you in - we can helpyou with that and you don't have to pay

> anyone.

> Each state has exemptions.

> Sheri

>

> At 07:44 PM 02/11/2002 -0000, you wrote:

> > The school nurse called me again this morning to ask about my

> >daughter's shot records...See when I signed her up for school they

> >gave me a folder with a bunch of paper work inside...now everyone

> >knows that you have to have shot records to go with all the

> >information that they give...So the first day of school as usual we

> >were running a little late...my daughter was starting

> >Kindergarten...and her class was already headed for the breakfast

> >room...(well talk more about there lunch room menues)...anyway, I

> >gave the folder to the teacher and with all the information inside

> >the folder that she would need...SHOT RECORDS TOO...and she told me

> >that she would keep an eye on the folder cause it did have that in it

> >and I was running late and did not have the time to wait for her to

> >copy her shot records...so I trusted this teacher...I never should

> >have the SHOT RECORDS ARE GONE!!!! They have no idea where they could

> >have gone or what could have happened to them...now they say it is my

> >responsibility to get another one...there were only 3 sessions of

> >SHOTS on there if there were even 3...I know for a fact that there

> >were 2 sessions of shots on there...anyway, if I can not obtain a new

> >shot record they told me that I might have those shots done over

> >again...NO WAY...I even told the school nurse NO...I quote myself " if

> >it comes to her getting the old ones again or even any new shots than

> >someone will just have to sue me or put me in jail I will not put my

> >daughters health any longer at risk. "

> > NOW HERE IS THE GOOD NEWS.....

> >The school Nurse told me that there is a way that I can get by with

> >this without having to join any church or organizations...all I had

> >to do was go to a clinic Doctor, cause I use none if at all

> >possible...so I don't have a set Doctor...just a Homopathic believer

> >friend that helps me along my way...anyway, the nurse said get a

> >letter stating that your child has been exempt from taking any shots

> >with mothers permission and that he is exempting the child...some

> >won't do this but you can call around and find one that will...it is

> >worth the $65.00 visit fee for that peice of paper...if any fee is

> >need at all...and when you get this paper...make copies...make

> >several copies...that way you never loose it...lol...

> > Anyway, I am going to go and call right now and see about this I

> >just had to tell you all about my little experience...

> > mrsyates2002

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hi ,

Better, imho, as it has a balanced ratio of Omega 3 to Omega 6. But make

sure it is a good quality, cold-pressed, preferably organic, one.

Can I respectfully ask whether you could try and remember to chop Digests

off the bottom of your replies, please? :o) I had an enormous amount of

messages to delete before sending this one... Many thanks...

Love, light and peace,

Sue

> Re: CLO

>

>

> Is Flax oil as good as Cod Liver Oil?

>

>

>

> mother to two beautiful children

> Tristan 2

> Lorna, 7 months

> representative of SEASILVER, liquid Vit. supplement

> Balances your body chemistry

> Cleanses your vital organs

> Purifies your blood & Lymphatic system

> Nourishes your body at the cellular level

> Oxygenates your body's cells

> Protects your tissues and cells against toxins

> Strengthens your immune system

> http://smarthealth.seasilverhealth.com

>

>

>

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Read the articles I sent by Megson - she says that there is no

substitute for Vitamin A from cod liver oil in what she sees.

Sheri

At 12:52 PM 02/12/2002 -0700, you wrote:

>Is Flax oil as good as Cod Liver Oil?

>

>

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We use just ground Flax seeds too. It's soooo much cheaper and I think it

tastes better and always fresh if you keep them in the freezer and just

grind up a week or so worth

L.

Proud mom to Autumn 1-13-97 & Zoe 8-8-00

-----> Better, imho, as it has a balanced ratio of Omega 3 to Omega 6. But

make

> sure it is a good quality, cold-pressed, preferably organic, one.

>

>

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If you are referring to the fattys acid aspect then the answer is NO.

Flax oil supplies the Linolenic Acid which in a healthy body and in a healthy

environment should produce the much desirable EPA, the building block of the

Series 3 Prostaglandins.

Fro the production of EPA the body requires sufficient amounts of Vitamin C, B3,

Vit B6, Zinc and Magnesium present. As it is very difficult to maintain this all

the time, CLO which is full of EPA will supply this directly to the body.

Now you might say that supplements will provide the vits and mins, but consider

this. Did you know that eating commercially-prepared fish fingers often has

yellow food colouring in the bread mixture. The yellowy feature contains

Tatrazine. This will lower the zinc levels remarkedly within 30 minutes.

Surprising isnt it. And then without the proper zinc levels the fattys acid

metabolism is threatened.

Also salicylates will interfere with fatty acid metabolism.

Hope this answers your question.

Every morning my daughter, myself and our puppy get a spoonful of CLO. My

husband also takes it now. Its also great for depression!!

Bear in mind you have to curtail saturated fats, ( throw that Margarine OUT!)

and all commercially prepared foods. Use olive oil only for cooking.

We havent had a cold or anything approahing that since we started the CLO and

fish oil protocol. If I feel a tickle in my throat I up the fish oils..

Re: School Nurse

>

> What state are you in - we can helpyou with that and you don't have to pay

> anyone.

> Each state has exemptions.

> Sheri

>

> At 07:44 PM 02/11/2002 -0000, you wrote:

> > The school nurse called me again this morning to ask about my

> >daughter's shot records...See when I signed her up for school they

> >gave me a folder with a bunch of paper work inside...now everyone

> >knows that you have to have shot records to go with all the

> >information that they give...So the first day of school as usual we

> >were running a little late...my daughter was starting

> >Kindergarten...and her class was already headed for the breakfast

> >room...(well talk more about there lunch room menues)...anyway, I

> >gave the folder to the teacher and with all the information inside

> >the folder that she would need...SHOT RECORDS TOO...and she told me

> >that she would keep an eye on the folder cause it did have that in it

> >and I was running late and did not have the time to wait for her to

> >copy her shot records...so I trusted this teacher...I never should

> >have the SHOT RECORDS ARE GONE!!!! They have no idea where they could

> >have gone or what could have happened to them...now they say it is my

> >responsibility to get another one...there were only 3 sessions of

> >SHOTS on there if there were even 3...I know for a fact that there

> >were 2 sessions of shots on there...anyway, if I can not obtain a new

> >shot record they told me that I might have those shots done over

> >again...NO WAY...I even told the school nurse NO...I quote myself " if

> >it comes to her getting the old ones again or even any new shots than

> >someone will just have to sue me or put me in jail I will not put my

> >daughters health any longer at risk. "

> > NOW HERE IS THE GOOD NEWS.....

> >The school Nurse told me that there is a way that I can get by with

> >this without having to join any church or organizations...all I had

> >to do was go to a clinic Doctor, cause I use none if at all

> >possible...so I don't have a set Doctor...just a Homopathic believer

> >friend that helps me along my way...anyway, the nurse said get a

> >letter stating that your child has been exempt from taking any shots

> >with mothers permission and that he is exempting the child...some

> >won't do this but you can call around and find one that will...it is

> >worth the $65.00 visit fee for that peice of paper...if any fee is

> >need at all...and when you get this paper...make copies...make

> >several copies...that way you never loose it...lol...

> > Anyway, I am going to go and call right now and see about this I

> >just had to tell you all about my little experience...

> > mrsyates2002

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I am just trying to edit a huge backlog of emails and saw this.

Flax Oil is as good as CLO ONLY IF under ideal conditions.

Flax Oil is Linolenic Acid and elongates up to the much desired DHA but most

importantly the EPA. EPA supports the immune system and is the pre-cursor to

over 300 Prostaglandins which are important in minute-to-minute bodily

functions. In order for the body to metabolise the Lenolenic acid, it requires

adequate amounts of Vitamin C,B3, B6, magnesium and zinc. Alcohol, stress,

smoking and pollution will greatly reduce your body s chances of producing this

EPA. There is a study done by a well-known fatty acids expert, Dr. ph

Hibbeln which backs this up.

In order to ensure that your body gets this EPA, the best course is fish

oil.Fish are able to metabolise easily the the Lenolenic Acid which they get

from plants in the water. I was really surprised when I asked my pharmacist for

a breakdown of CLO..it is jam-packed with EPA. What a shame CLO was eliminated

from British schools in the 70s by Margaret Thatcher. I have to wonder why she

did this. It was a well-known all round natural medicine good fo healthy bones

and preventing colds etc. Pharmaceutical influence?? I am beginning to think

so...

Re: School Nurse

>

> What state are you in - we can helpyou with that and you don't have to pay

> anyone.

> Each state has exemptions.

> Sheri

>

> At 07:44 PM 02/11/2002 -0000, you wrote:

> > The school nurse called me again this morning to ask about my

> >daughter's shot records...See when I signed her up for school they

> >gave me a folder with a bunch of paper work inside...now everyone

> >knows that you have to have shot records to go with all the

> >information that they give...So the first day of school as usual we

> >were running a little late...my daughter was starting

> >Kindergarten...and her class was already headed for the breakfast

> >room...(well talk more about there lunch room menues)...anyway, I

> >gave the folder to the teacher and with all the information inside

> >the folder that she would need...SHOT RECORDS TOO...and she told me

> >that she would keep an eye on the folder cause it did have that in it

> >and I was running late and did not have the time to wait for her to

> >copy her shot records...so I trusted this teacher...I never should

> >have the SHOT RECORDS ARE GONE!!!! They have no idea where they could

> >have gone or what could have happened to them...now they say it is my

> >responsibility to get another one...there were only 3 sessions of

> >SHOTS on there if there were even 3...I know for a fact that there

> >were 2 sessions of shots on there...anyway, if I can not obtain a new

> >shot record they told me that I might have those shots done over

> >again...NO WAY...I even told the school nurse NO...I quote myself " if

> >it comes to her getting the old ones again or even any new shots than

> >someone will just have to sue me or put me in jail I will not put my

> >daughters health any longer at risk. "

> > NOW HERE IS THE GOOD NEWS.....

> >The school Nurse told me that there is a way that I can get by with

> >this without having to join any church or organizations...all I had

> >to do was go to a clinic Doctor, cause I use none if at all

> >possible...so I don't have a set Doctor...just a Homopathic believer

> >friend that helps me along my way...anyway, the nurse said get a

> >letter stating that your child has been exempt from taking any shots

> >with mothers permission and that he is exempting the child...some

> >won't do this but you can call around and find one that will...it is

> >worth the $65.00 visit fee for that peice of paper...if any fee is

> >need at all...and when you get this paper...make copies...make

> >several copies...that way you never loose it...lol...

> > Anyway, I am going to go and call right now and see about this I

> >just had to tell you all about my little experience...

> > mrsyates2002

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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K have been taking Twin Lab liquid and didn't think it

was so bad. Certainly better than globe artichoke

extract and wheat germ oil, and flax seed mixed with

beet kvaas! But it does separate, so be sure to shake

it each time.

Sara

--- realfoodie2003 <realfoodie2003@...> wrote:

> Karissa,

>

> If you buy Twinlab's, you'll HAVE to take it in

> capsule form. Otherwise, it is

> horrible!

>

> Kathy

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>

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I just tried some Garden of Life CLO (lemon-mint

flavor), and it was fantastic. Very light. According

to their website it is made in the traditional way

with the naturally occurring Vitamin A and D intact.

Plus it is high vitamin, with 5000 IU per teaspoon.

Whole Foods carries it.

--- realfoodie2003 <realfoodie2003@...> wrote:

> Sara,

>

> Well, I always say...Everything is relative! LOL!

> Have you tried Carlson's? You'll never go back!

>

> Kathy

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I gave a friend who has hep C coconut oil and she has really improved. She was

so tired and now she has a lot of energy and hasn't been sick. She takes a

couple of teaspoons a day. Coconut oil helps to detoxify the liver. That and

caffeine enemas. Hey Lynn..........can I get 8-10 dozen eggs from you on the

18th?

Jeanne

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Are you sure Carlsons removes A and D? I wonder why they would. I thought most holistic docs recommend it. I use it.

Gracia

Thanks for the suggestion of CLO, Lana. I take a tablespoon of CLO everyday, so I hope this handles most of the Vit A needed.

However, I've gotten confused about what the processing of CLO is doing to it. I was taking Carlson's CLO, which removes the A and D, and then adds A and D back in. I'm not sure if the A and D they add back in is the natural form or the synthetic. I've just switched to the Wilderness Family Naturals brand of CLO, which is supposed to keep the natural A and D.

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Hi Gracia, I notice that Dr. Merocola doesn't recommend Carlson's CLO any more, just Carlson's fish oil. I have switched to WFN's brand per Dr. Fife's recommenedattion. Love, PamelaGracia <circe@...> wrote: Are you sure Carlsons removes A and D? I wonder why they would. I thought most holistic docs recommend it. I use it. Gracia Thanks for the suggestion of CLO, Lana. I take a tablespoon of CLO everyday, so I hope this handles most of the Vit A needed. However, I've gotten confused about what the processing of CLO is doing to it. I was taking Carlson's CLO, which removes the A and D, and then adds A and D back in. I'm not sure if the A and D they add back in is the natural form or the synthetic. I've just switched to the Wilderness Family Naturals brand of CLO, which is supposed to keep the natural A and D. Zoe

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In a message dated 5/1/2006 7:13:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lsb149@... writes:

I notice that Dr. Merocola doesn't recommend Carlson's CLO any more,

>just Carlson's fish oil.

I didn't hear he wasn't recommending it. I heard he wouldn't be using it

anymore because he went to Hawaii for the winter, spent a lot of time in the

sun, and found hid Vitamin D levels too high. He always said switch to fish

oil in the summer. I guess if one's going to a sunny climate, and spending

a lot of time outdoors, maybe they should consider the summer routine.

As for me, I've had my Vitamin D tested one time. It was at the end of a

summer where I spent about an hour a day in the Michigan sun, and my Vitamin

D level was still well below the level Mercola recommends. I imagine most

people who don't have the luxury of spending hours a day in the southern or

Hawaiin sun would be the same way.

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My Vitamin D was non existant a few months ago. I live in NY and don't sunbathe anymore. I am taking 1000 IU Vit D3.

Dr. Weil was on PBS recently and said that most people don't get enough Vit D and recommends 1000 IU per day too.

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>

> I notice that Dr. Merocola doesn't recommend Carlson's CLO any more,

>just Carlson's fish oil.

I didn't hear he wasn't recommending it. I heard he wouldn't be using it

anymore because he went to Hawaii for the winter, spent a lot of time in the

sun, and found hid Vitamin D levels too high. He always said switch to fish

oil in the summer. I guess if one's going to a sunny climate, and spending

a lot of time outdoors, maybe they should consider the summer routine.

As for me, I've had my Vitamin D tested one time. It was at the end of a

summer where I spent about an hour a day in the Michigan sun, and my Vitamin

D level was still well below the level Mercola recommends. I imagine most

people who don't have the luxury of spending hours a day in the southern or

Hawaiin sun would be the same way.

Skipper

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I have said this before but I live in Florida and several WAP people here have had their Vit. D levels checked and they were all LOW! They also spent at least a half hour a day outside in the sun.

So it think it is something you need to have checked if you really want to know.

Allyn

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In a message dated 5/1/2006 7:13:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lsb149@... writes:

I notice that Dr. Merocola doesn't recommend Carlson's CLO any more, >just Carlson's fish oil.I didn't hear he wasn't recommending it. I heard he wouldn't be using it anymore because he went to Hawaii for the winter, spent a lot of time in the sun, and found hid Vitamin D levels too high. He always said switch to fish oil in the summer. I guess if one's going to a sunny climate, and spending a lot of time outdoors, maybe they should consider the summer routine.As for me, I've had my Vitamin D tested one time. It was at the end of a summer where I spent about an hour a day in the Michigan sun, and my Vitamin D level was still well below the level Mercola recommends. I imagine most people who don't have the luxury of spending hours a day in the southern or Hawaiin sun would be the same way.Skipper_________________________________________________________________Don’t just search. FindMy Vitamin D was non existant a few months ago. I live in NY and don't sunbathe anymore. I am taking 1000 IU Vit D3.Dr. Weil was on PBS recently and said that most people don't get enough Vit D and recommends 1000 IU per day too.

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Carlson's does a refining process to remove Mercury, which also removes everything but the oil. So all vitamins in Carlson's oil are synthetic ad-ins.AlobarOn 5/1/06,

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

Are you sure Carlsons removes A and D? I wonder why they would. I thought most holistic docs recommend it. I use it.

Gracia

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> My Vitamin D was non existant a few months ago. I live in NY and

don't sunbathe anymore. I am taking 1000 IU Vit D3.

> Dr. Weil was on PBS recently and said that most people don't get

enough Vit D and recommends 1000 IU per day too.

>

Here is a research article from Biotics Research Corp, in Rosenberg,

Tx. It is pretty technical but states that we are very deficient in

vitamin D, and recommends 4000IU as the minimum in the form of

Cholecalciferol, vit D3 along with sunshine. Serum vitamin D levels

should be checked, and should reach 25(OH)D. This level usually takes

3-5 months to obtain.

http://www.bioticsresearch.com/PDF/Vitamin%20D%20ATHM2004%

20Vasquez.pdf

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"WAP" is Weston A. Price devotee. Dr. Price did research on foods of primitive people and found them to be the best for human growth and health. If anyone wants more info go to www.westonaprice.org. Virgin Coconut Oil has been shown to be protective and also consumption of good quality saturated fats, that society has mistakenly demonized.

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> Date: Mon May 1, 2006 7:11pm(PDT)

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>I have said this before but I live in Florida and several WAP people here

>have had their Vit. D levels checked and they were all LOW! They also spent

>at least a half hour a day outside in the sun.

>So it think it is something you need to have checked if you really want to

>know.

I don't know what a " WAP " is, but the darker the skin, the longer it takes

to absorb adequate amounts. Also, sunscreen will block Vitamin D, and

doctors led us to believe if we spent a minute or two out in the sun without

SPF-15, we'd die of cancer. I guess the toxic, never proven safe substances

they put in sunscreen are OK, but that sun is evil.

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Alobar, do you KNOW that the vitamins added back in are synthetic? Do you have a good reference on this? This is one of the things I have heard, but don't really know. Some people say that they add the natural vitamins back, but in a specific amount. Zoe

Carlson's does a refining process to remove Mercury, which also removes everything but the oil. So all vitamins in Carlson's oil are synthetic ad-ins.Alobar

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I know they take out A, then add it back. I can't find references that they add back synthetic. Maybe you could e-mail or telephone Carlson to verify one way or the other.Alobar

On 5/2/06, Zoe & <ZOEA@...> wrote:

Alobar, do you KNOW that the vitamins added back in are synthetic? Do you have a good reference on this? This is one of the things I have heard, but don't really know. Some people say that they add the natural vitamins back, but in a specific amount. Zoe

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Their was a recent article in The Weston A. Price quarterly newsmagazine and a guy did research and that is most definitely what they do.

During the processing they remove the A & D and almost all of them add back synthetic. Blue ice and Garden of Life put back the real stuff. I have just noticed that Quantum clo does not have synthetic either.

Allyn

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I know they take out A, then add it back. I can't find references that they add back synthetic. Maybe you could e-mail or telephone Carlson to verify one way or the other.Alobar

On 5/2/06, Zoe & <ZOEA@...> wrote:

Alobar, do you KNOW that the vitamins added back in are synthetic? Do you have a good reference on this? This is one of the things I have heard, but don't really know. Some people say that they add the natural vitamins back, but in a specific amount. Zoe

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