Re: don't seem to be healing

[Guest guest]

On that point I actually think the statement should read 'But in people

with diabetes, the release of glucagon WITH impaired insulin response can cause

our blood sugar to rise several hours after a meal high in protein.'

I am Diabetic and my blood sugar can be affected by protein - you have to

realise that there is still some carbohydrate even in meat and fish, albeit very

small. Not only that but the body will convert some of the protein by means of

gluconeogenesis into glucose for the few process it is needed for, and

potentially that could trigger a slight rise.

For the previous two nights prior to the last one, my blood sugar was well down

in low normal (3.8/4.3 mmol) range - lower than it would normally be - it is

usually high normal or just above (5.5 - 6.5). I don't know why, but am

watching with intrepidation to see if it was just a temporary blip or whether

there may be some healing taking place. I was diagnosed diabetic around 14

years ago and I have been on Bee's diet for 13.5 months, so am interested to see

what happens over the next few weeks. There does seem to be activity going on

in my pancreas area at the moment so I am just hanging in there on this at the

moment.

I still have to take a little insulin (10 - 14 units) and one Metformin tablet a

day just to keep it low and stable, but that is considerably less than the 40 -

50 units and 3 Metformin I used to have to take daily.

Interestingly on this I picked up a comment by Dr Jay Wortman recently where he

mentioned that some Diabetics with fairly extreme insulin resistance cannot cope

with any carbohydrate at all. I suspect that is me now, as for some reason my

ability to cope with carbs seems to have gradually worsened since being on the

diet although I would have expected it to improve. I don't know if that is part

of the healing process or not, or whether it is due to the higher level of fats

floating around. I have come across other Diabetics who have said the same

thing the longer they have been low-carb, but I still haven't yet figured out

why.

Ali.

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> >>> Article:

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> > In a person without diabetes, a rise in blood amino acid concentration (the

result of protein metabolism) stimulates the secretion of both glucagon and

insulin, so their blood sugar remains stable. But in people with diabetes, the

release of glucagon without impaired insulin response can cause our blood sugar

to rise several hours after a meal high in protein.<<

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> Bee, I guess I'm feeling rather thick, but I've read this article several

times and, while I see the above stated twice, I can't tell if there is anything

a diabetic is to DO about the rise in blood sugar. Are you stating the rise in

blood sugar after a meal high in protein is 'normal' and to be expected? Or is

it because their fat intake isn't high enough?

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> Thanks for your patient clarification!

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[Guest guest]

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> >>> Article:

> >

> > In a person without diabetes, a rise in blood amino acid concentration (the

result of protein metabolism) stimulates the secretion of both glucagon and

insulin, so their blood sugar remains stable. But in people with diabetes, the

release of glucagon without impaired insulin response can cause our blood sugar

to rise several hours after a meal high in protein.<<

> Bee, I guess I'm feeling rather thick, but I've read this article several

times and, while I see the above stated twice, I can't tell if there is anything

a diabetic is to DO about the rise in blood sugar. Are you stating the rise in

blood sugar after a meal high in protein is 'normal' and to be expected? Or is

it because their fat intake isn't high enough?

+++Hi ,

The quote above is not correct, instead it is: " But in people with diabetes, the

release of glucagon without insulin or with impaired insulin response can cause

blood sugar to rise several hours after a meal high in protein. "

In other words, protein is unable to stimulate insulin as well as glucagon in

diabetics because they have an impaired insulin response. Therefore protein

stimulates glucagon but it cannot stimulate insulin, so the two hormones are not

balanced as they are in people who are not diabetic.

In diabetics the rise in blood sugar by protein is to be expected until their

body corrects the impaired insulin response, so I don't believe it is only when

protein intake is high.

I believe it would happen whenever they consume protein. Consuming high fat

along with protein doesn't change insulin impairment response until the body is

able to correct it, which involves many functions and responses in many areas of

the body.

That is why diabetics need to follow the complete program long enough for their

body to correct the impairment, just like everyone else with any kind of health

issues.

Bee

[Guest guest]

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> +++Hi ,

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> The quote above is not correct, instead it is: " But in people with diabetes,

the release of glucagon without insulin or with impaired insulin response can

cause blood sugar to rise several hours after a meal high in protein. "

***[i'll have to find the article where I found this wording then so you can

correct it...]

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> In other words, protein is unable to stimulate insulin as well as glucagon in

diabetics because they have an impaired insulin response. Therefore protein

stimulates glucagon but it cannot stimulate insulin, so the two hormones are not

balanced as they are in people who are not diabetic.

*** Bee - THANK YOU SO MUCH for explaining it in this way. NOW i understand.

Thank you Thank you Thank you!

I know a couple people who are afraid to consume the minimum amnt of protein

because their blood sugar increases. Now I can give them reassurance to go

ahead and EAT MEAT! :-))