constant debilitating stomach and head pain

January 12, 2011

Hi Bee, it is Bonnie here, What will bring relief for 's debilitating

stomach pain which is constant? still has had pain dispite the baking soda

in water and Oil of oregano in coconut oil on the tummy. She is unable to go to

school or funtion in any way for 11 days being completly on the diet and no

meds.

January 12, 2011

>

> Hi Bee, it is Bonnie here, What will bring relief for 's debilitating

stomach pain which is constant? still has had pain dispite the baking soda

in water and Oil of oregano in coconut oil on the tummy. She is unable to go to

school or funtion in any way for 11 days being completly on the diet and no

meds.

+++Hi Bonnie,

You need to get her checked out by the doctor now. It's way too long for her to

be so debilitated. That doesn't mean you have to do the treatments recommended,

but you need to know what is going on, and that there isn't anything emergent

happening with her.

Bee

January 12, 2011

Hi Bonnie, I have a daughter who suffered terrible tummy pains for a long long

time and was very poorly. Is there anything I can do to help? Can you tell me

alittle about what is wrong and how long she has been on the diet? I tried to

search for other messages by you to give me information but couldn't find any

recent ones.

Hope I can help,

> >

> > Hi Bee, it is Bonnie here, What will bring relief for 's debilitating

stomach pain which is constant? still has had pain dispite the baking soda

in water and Oil of oregano in coconut oil on the tummy. She is unable to go to

school or funtion in any way for 11 days being completly on the diet and no

meds.

>

> +++Hi Bonnie,

>

> You need to get her checked out by the doctor now. It's way too long for her

to be so debilitated. That doesn't mean you have to do the treatments

recommended, but you need to know what is going on, and that there isn't

anything emergent happening with her.

>

> Bee

>

January 12, 2011

Hi ,

My daughter has had stomach pain for 3 months ever since she started with

the strep. She was unable to lick the strep on the correct foods although

in the past she has been able to get rid of the stomach pain just being on

the same foods as Bee's diet. We stopped all non- Bee supplements and her

ritalin on January 1st. She has pain by the belly button, gas, low energy,

and itchy skin from the candida coming out. I did do antibiotics when the

natural remedies failed. Monday night she thru up food she ate Sunday. The

doctor wants to have an xray done of the liquid going thru the tummy. He

also gave us a scrip for Ranitidine 150 mg to reduces stomach acid. She

just started to burp up a little liquid today. Today she ate more protein

and vegtable then fats so I will try to get some fats in her. My daughter

has battled candida all her life along with a poor immune system, strep,

parasites...Any thoughts... Thanks Bonnie

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 2:49 PM, a_quinn66 <a_quinn66@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Bonnie, I have a daughter who suffered terrible tummy pains for a long

> long time and was very poorly. Is there anything I can do to help? Can you

> tell me alittle about what is wrong and how long she has been on the diet? I

> tried to search for other messages by you to give me information but

> couldn't find any recent ones.

> Hope I can help,

>

> > >

> > > Hi Bee, it is Bonnie here, What will bring relief for 's

> debilitating stomach pain which is constant? still has had pain dispite

> the baking soda in water and Oil of oregano in coconut oil on the tummy. She

> is unable to go to school or funtion in any way for 11 days being completly

> on the diet and no meds.

> >

> > +++Hi Bonnie,

> >

> > You need to get her checked out by the doctor now. It's way too long for

> her to be so debilitated. That doesn't mean you have to do the treatments

> recommended, but you need to know what is going on, and that there isn't

> anything emergent happening with her.

> >

> > Bee

> >

>

January 13, 2011

Hi Bonnie, Poor you! I'm sure we can get her better though. Although you didn't

tell me much about her, she sounds like my daughter. She is now 11 and used to

suffer from severe gut and bowel disorders together with life threatening

allergies, severe asthma, autism and many other psycholgical and behavioural

disorders, pyroluria( which affects the synthesis of haemoglobin) etc etc. She

had tummy pains for years and years. Are you on the intro with her? I would say

she needs to go on a liquid diet quick. How long since she had the antibiotics?

I would say that the ranitandine was a bad idea, as she is most likely to be

producing too little Hcl. Going on to the proper dose of HCL was a major turning

point for my daughter and many many other candida sufferers. Have you tried it?

What other non diet supplements was she on ? You may have taken her off non diet

stuff too quick. I had to do everything very very slow. If she has got alot of

gas, that is what is giving the pain, so you must only give her the gentlest

food. I would give her very little veg and if so cooked to oblivion. The veg and

fiber that your child can not digest will encourage yeast and bacteria to grow

to clear up for her. They will creat a painful fermentation chamber down there.

Do stop the lemon too, if you are on it. Yes you must get some fats into her!

But again don't do anything too quick. I'm sorry I don't have any more time now,

but don't hesitate to ask any more questions.

All the best,

> > > >

> > > > Hi Bee, it is Bonnie here, What will bring relief for 's

> > debilitating stomach pain which is constant? still has had pain dispite

> > the baking soda in water and Oil of oregano in coconut oil on the tummy. She

> > is unable to go to school or funtion in any way for 11 days being completly

> > on the diet and no meds.

> > >

> > > +++Hi Bonnie,

> > >

> > > You need to get her checked out by the doctor now. It's way too long for

> > her to be so debilitated. That doesn't mean you have to do the treatments

> > recommended, but you need to know what is going on, and that there isn't

> > anything emergent happening with her.

> > >

> > > Bee

> > >

> >

>

January 13, 2011

Hi ,

My daughters name is and is 12 with ADHD and RAD and behavior stuff.

She was on a Standard Process supplements for her liver and heart. I

stopped everything really quick, should I add some of the supplements back

in? I am going to go out and get a new blender and try that, any

suggestions. Bonnie

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 8:29 AM, a_quinn66 <a_quinn66@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Bonnie, Poor you! I'm sure we can get her better though. Although you

> didn't tell me much about her, she sounds like my daughter. She is now 11

> and used to suffer from severe gut and bowel disorders together with life

> threatening allergies, severe asthma, autism and many other psycholgical and

> behavioural disorders, pyroluria( which affects the synthesis of

> haemoglobin) etc etc. She had tummy pains for years and years. Are you on

> the intro with her? I would say she needs to go on a liquid diet quick. How

> long since she had the antibiotics? I would say that the ranitandine was a

> bad idea, as she is most likely to be producing too little Hcl. Going on to

> the proper dose of HCL was a major turning point for my daughter and many

> many other candida sufferers. Have you tried it? What other non diet

> supplements was she on ? You may have taken her off non diet stuff too

> quick. I had to do everything very very slow. If she has got alot of gas,

> that is what is giving the pain, so you must only give her the gentlest

> food. I would give her very little veg and if so cooked to oblivion. The veg

> and fiber that your child can not digest will encourage yeast and bacteria

> to grow to clear up for her. They will creat a painful fermentation chamber

> down there. Do stop the lemon too, if you are on it. Yes you must get some

> fats into her! But again don't do anything too quick. I'm sorry I don't have

> any more time now, but don't hesitate to ask any more questions.

> All the best,

>

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Bee, it is Bonnie here, What will bring relief for 's

> > > debilitating stomach pain which is constant? still has had pain

> dispite

> > > the baking soda in water and Oil of oregano in coconut oil on the

> tummy. She

> > > is unable to go to school or funtion in any way for 11 days being

> completly

> > > on the diet and no meds.

> > > >

> > > > +++Hi Bonnie,

> > > >

> > > > You need to get her checked out by the doctor now. It's way too long

> for

> > > her to be so debilitated. That doesn't mean you have to do the

> treatments

> > > recommended, but you need to know what is going on, and that there

> isn't

> > > anything emergent happening with her.

> > > >

> > > > Bee

> > > >

> > >

> >

January 13, 2011

Hi Bee,

The doc recomended the Barium Xray test which my husband wants to do. I

backed off on the coconut oil to about 1T today (was at about 4T), gave her

broth, eggs and hamburger, 3 T butter. I was trying to follow the correct

fat/protein ratio but could I have done too much coconut oil and butter? I

am also thinking of trying the liquid diet but without enemas, she is going

a few times a day, dumping the sludge and loose stools. I also forgot to

mention that I have been giving her melatonin to get her to sleep on a

regular basis and a just a few times have given her motrin for the pain at

night. I am hoping the severe pain will stop so I can stop the pills. Do

you have any other thoughts.

Thanks for everything!

Bonnie

January 13, 2011

Hi Bonnie, it depends what was in those supplements. I am from england so am not

familiar with standard process.She is healing too quick if she is in alot of

pain, so you have to try and calculate what bad things you have taken away,

which will cause healing and how much healing food you have added in, which will

cause healing. Its not just the coco oil that could be causing trouble right

now, it is all the healing foods, fats, eggs, fish etc. As far as the blender

goes, don't forget that the veg still needs to be cooked really really well.

How long has she been on the diet? When did she have the antibiotics? Did you

try HCL? The more information you can give me about what she is eating and what

happened prior to getting ill with strep and now this time too. Sometimes it all

just takes abit of untangling. My daughter is 11 by the way! Feel free to ask

any more questions, I'm sure we can straighten things out for .

All the best,

>

> >

January 13, 2011

Hi ,

Thank you for all of your help and support, I really appreciate it. My

has been on the diet for 13 days without meds and other supplements. She is

also detoxing from Ritalin. We did increase the eggs, but she eats lots of

hamburgers, venison, green beans. I decreased the butter today too, what

should i start with and how do I get the good oils in and meet the

80/20ratio?. She was eating meat, low glycemic vegtables and fat for two

years and added the supplements in fall but did not have the right ratios

correct till recently. I added the hcl today 1 for breakfast and 2 after

lunch (45min) I blended hamburger and broth today. Again Thank you for

your help, I did not expect it...Bonnie

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 2:42 PM, a_quinn66 <a_quinn66@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Bonnie, it depends what was in those supplements. I am from england so

> am not familiar with standard process.She is healing too quick if she is in

> alot of pain, so you have to try and calculate what bad things you have

> taken away, which will cause healing and how much healing food you have

> added in, which will cause healing. Its not just the coco oil that could be

> causing trouble right now, it is all the healing foods, fats, eggs, fish

> etc. As far as the blender goes, don't forget that the veg still needs to be

> cooked really really well. How long has she been on the diet? When did she

> have the antibiotics? Did you try HCL? The more information you can give me

> about what she is eating and what happened prior to getting ill with strep

> and now this time too. Sometimes it all just takes abit of untangling. My

> daughter is 11 by the way! Feel free to ask any more questions, I'm sure we

> can straighten things out for .

> All the best,

>

> >

> > >

>

January 13, 2011

Hi ,

Another Question, I also was doing the adult dose of Bees supplements for my

12 year old and will reduce it to 1/2 tomorrow, any thoughts?

Thank you