Candida

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depends on the situation and the person .

Re: To hardasnails re "bad" estrogen and hot flashes

I just want to add to the evidence here about iodine & candida. I have battled candida for many years now, and have learned how to keep it in check and can quickly tell when it's not. After a week of starting iodine (for thyroid) at 2-6 gms/day, I was completely overwhelmed with candida. I stopped the iodine to try to reign in the ugly little beasts, but now I am wondering what the solution is...

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> > >

> > > "from increase of bad flora due to iodine killing of good

> bacteria."

> > >

> > > I' ve been wondering about this issue for some time. I don't have

> > > proof but it makes sense at the common sense level. We don't use

> > > iodized salt to pickle because the antibacterial effects are

> strong

> > > enough to stop the lacto-fermentation process. We use iodine to

> kill

> > > bacteria in order to disinfect water. Why would this effect stop

> upon

> > > ingestion?

> > >

> > > Nina

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I thought it was the other way around. I was found via a complete

stool test from GSDL to have an ALKALINE stomache and a heavy

overgrowth of candida among other things. Carol B

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> > > > " from increase of bad flora due to iodine killing of

good

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> > bacteria. "

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>

> > > > I' ve been wondering about this issue for some time. I

don't have

>

> > > > proof but it makes sense at the common sense level. We

don't use

>

> > > > iodized salt to pickle because the antibacterial

effects are

>

> > strong

>

> > > > enough to stop the lacto-fermentation process. We use

iodine to

>

> > kill

>

> > > > bacteria in order to disinfect water. Why would this

effect stop

>

> > upon

>

> > > > ingestion?

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> > > > Nina

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An acidic colon is what encourages Candida. You want to have an acidic

stomach and an alkaline intestine. The baking soda sets the right pH levels

in both. You have issues because your stomach is alkaline.

Re: Candida

I thought it was the other way around. I was found via a complete

stool test from GSDL to have an ALKALINE stomache and a heavy

overgrowth of candida among other things. Carol B

>

> > > >

>

> > > > " from increase of bad flora due to iodine killing of

good

>

> > bacteria. "

>

> > > >

>

> > > > I' ve been wondering about this issue for some time. I

don't have

>

> > > > proof but it makes sense at the common sense level. We

don't use

>

> > > > iodized salt to pickle because the antibacterial

effects are

>

> > strong

>

> > > > enough to stop the lacto-fermentation process. We use

iodine to

>

> > kill

>

> > > > bacteria in order to disinfect water. Why would this

effect stop

>

> > upon

>

> > > > ingestion?

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> > > >

>

> > > > Nina

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GOTTCHA! I'm not the scientific one here so I lump stomache, colon etc

all into one and they are not. Didn't know that baking soda was good

for correcting achlorydia. I have read the iodine will correct it

though and I'm waiting to see what happens over time. I may check into

this baking soda thing. thanks, Carol B

>

> An acidic colon is what encourages Candida. You want to have an

acidic

> stomach and an alkaline intestine. The baking soda sets the right pH

levels

> in both. You have issues because your stomach is alkaline.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

No problem. My mom takes Baking Soda with Buffered C powder to help with

detoxing. Her Dr is in with Dr. Brownstein and they recommend using Bob's

Red Mill Aluminum Free.

Steph

Re: Candida

> GOTTCHA! I'm not the scientific one here so I lump stomache, colon etc

> all into one and they are not. Didn't know that baking soda was good

> for correcting achlorydia. I have read the iodine will correct it

> though and I'm waiting to see what happens over time. I may check into

> this baking soda thing. thanks, Carol B

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks . I do use aluminum free though I should double check

that. I purchased a 5 lb bag from my co-op as I use it to brush my

teeth with as well. Carol B

>

> No problem. My mom takes Baking Soda with Buffered C powder to

help with

> detoxing. Her Dr is in with Dr. Brownstein and they recommend

using Bob's

> Red Mill Aluminum Free.

>

> Steph

>

> Re: Candida

>

>

> > GOTTCHA! I'm not the scientific one here so I lump stomache,

colon etc

> > all into one and they are not. Didn't know that baking soda was

good

> > for correcting achlorydia. I have read the iodine will correct it

> > though and I'm waiting to see what happens over time. I may check

into

> > this baking soda thing. thanks, Carol B

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I read somewhere that cream of tartar is good for removing candida.

was I wrong or does both baking soda and cream of tartar do the same

thing.

thanks Margo

>

> No problem. My mom takes Baking Soda with Buffered C powder to

help with

> detoxing. Her Dr is in with Dr. Brownstein and they recommend

using Bob's

> Red Mill Aluminum Free.

>

> Steph

>

> Re: Candida

>

>

> > GOTTCHA! I'm not the scientific one here so I lump stomache,

colon etc

> > all into one and they are not. Didn't know that baking soda was

good

> > for correcting achlorydia. I have read the iodine will correct it

> > though and I'm waiting to see what happens over time. I may check

into

> > this baking soda thing. thanks, Carol B

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Margo. I believe is saying that baking soda will correct

PH which in turn helps eleminate candida. Cream of Tartar will not

correct the PH. Carol B (I also remember a discussion somewhere (not

here) where the use of Cream of Tartar was controversial. Probably a

candida group. Something about it being bad for you but don't quote

me on it. At least not with my memory. LOL)

> >

> > No problem. My mom takes Baking Soda with Buffered C powder to

> help with

> > detoxing. Her Dr is in with Dr. Brownstein and they recommend

> using Bob's

> > Red Mill Aluminum Free.

> >

> > Steph

> >

> > Re: Candida

> >

> >

> > > GOTTCHA! I'm not the scientific one here so I lump stomache,

> colon etc

> > > all into one and they are not. Didn't know that baking soda

was

> good

> > > for correcting achlorydia. I have read the iodine will correct

it

> > > though and I'm waiting to see what happens over time. I may

check

> into

> > > this baking soda thing. thanks, Carol B

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Has it been discussed (yet) how much of the baking soda should be taken? That would (probably?) be dependent on how much iodine we are taking daily ...? Also, should we just mix the baking soda in water and drink it? Sorry if all of this has already been addressed .. Glo

[Guest guest]

Why did you start taking the iodoral?

Fungi (candida) thrive in environments that are acidic, and potassium iodide is

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I was hoping to be able to cut back on the Thyroid S (8 grains)that I

take daily, if I was iodine deficient. The Candida coincides with the

Iodoral so I will stop taking it. Thanks for the info.

-- In iodine , Aprilcupcake@... wrote:

>

> Why did you start taking the iodoral?

>

> Fungi (candida) thrive in environments that are acidic, and

potassium iodide

> is

> an acid preparation..perhaps you are causing harm to too many

useful bacteria.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I wouldn't quit taking it. I think you need some probiotics. It's a gut

imbalance not an iodine issue. If you have an overgrowth of candida then

you need to kill it with diet and probiotics. No sugars, grains, etc.

Candida also comes with low thyroid / metabolism.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en & rlz=1T4GFRC_enUS209US209 & q=Low+Thyroid+Candid\

a & btnG=Search

Be careful what advice you take here. Some is rooted in science and others

in opinions. Read and research before deciding. I saw one person post on

this and it seems this is how you made your decision.

Here is a link so you can read more in Iodine and Candida

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient & ie=UTF-8 & rlz=1T4GFRC_enUS209US20\

9 & q=Candida+Iodine

Re: Candida

>I was hoping to be able to cut back on the Thyroid S (8 grains)that I

> take daily, if I was iodine deficient. The Candida coincides with the

> Iodoral so I will stop taking it. Thanks for the info.

>

>

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> -- In iodine , Aprilcupcake@... wrote:

>>

>> Why did you start taking the iodoral?

>>

>> Fungi (candida) thrive in environments that are acidic, and

> potassium iodide

>> is

>> an acid preparation..perhaps you are causing harm to too many

> useful bacteria.

>>

>>

>>

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[Guest guest]

I stopped the Iodoral 3 days ago and almost immediately the

Candida is no longer a problem. I read 's article that

most hypo patients are not iodine deficient. I also read the posts on

this site about candida.

> >>

> >> Why did you start taking the iodoral?

> >>

> >> Fungi (candida) thrive in environments that are acidic, and

> > potassium iodide

> >> is

> >> an acid preparation..perhaps you are causing harm to too many

> > useful bacteria.

> >>

> >>

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Evidence, please?

Lynne

In a message dated 11/10/2007 8:30:21 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, sarasotalin@... writes:

I read 's article that most hypo patients are not iodine deficient.

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[Guest guest]

I wouldn't take 's word as gospel truth. All of the clinicians using

Iodine are finding the opposite. What does S base her assertions on?

Is she testing hypo patients. No she isn't. She is an advocate not a

medical person. Use sources like Dr. Abraham, Dr. Brownstein, Dr Flechas,

Dr. Shevin and more that are using it in their practice and testing their

patients with loading tests. I suggest that if you question your levels

that you also do a loading test to determine your status. You may have

multiple issues going on.

Re: Candida

> I stopped the Iodoral 3 days ago and almost immediately the

> Candida is no longer a problem. I read 's article that

> most hypo patients are not iodine deficient. I also read the posts on

> this site about candida.

>

>

>

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>

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>> >>

>> >> Why did you start taking the iodoral?

>> >>

>> >> Fungi (candida) thrive in environments that are acidic, and

>> > potassium iodide

>> >> is

>> >> an acid preparation..perhaps you are causing harm to too many

>> > useful bacteria.

>> >>

>> >>

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[Guest guest]

I read 's article that strongly suggested that thyroid disease is associated with personality type and a problem with speaking out, so it causes a physical problem in women's throats. Uh, not exactly scientific, and pretty condescending to people who have a very serious physical disease. I would take everything she says with a bag of salt (a grain is too small).

>>I read 's article that most hypo patients are not iodine deficient.

[Guest guest]

I thought that was on Oprah.....

>

> I read 's article that strongly suggested that thyroid disease

is associated with personality type and a problem with speaking out,

so it causes a physical problem in women's throats. Uh, not exactly

scientific, and pretty condescending to people who have a very

serious physical disease. I would take everything she says with a bag

of salt (a grain is too small).

>

>

>

> >>I read 's article that

> most hypo patients are not iodine deficient.

>

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure what to do now. The Candida was awful. I take probiotics

regularly and had to take Nystatin to calm it down. If the iodine

causes the Candida..... should I take it??

> > >>

> > >> Why did you start taking the iodoral?

> > >>

> > >> Fungi (candida) thrive in environments that are acidic, and

> > > potassium iodide

> > >> is

> > >> an acid preparation..perhaps you are causing harm to too many

> > > useful bacteria.

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

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[Guest guest]

actually mary has been speaking out against that theory...she was

rather upset about the whole oprah/christine northrup show where that

was being said....

cindi

>

> I read 's article that strongly suggested that thyroid disease is

associated with personality type and a problem with speaking out, so it

causes a physical problem in women's throats. Uh, not exactly

scientific, and pretty condescending to people who have a very serious

physical disease. I would take everything she says with a bag of salt

(a grain is too small).

[Guest guest]

,

Have you addressed candida with diet and or herbs.

There are several products that really make a difference with

candida, grapefruit seed extract, oil of oregano and olive leaf.

Oil of oregano is really strong in smell if it is the real things so

do not often recommend that one. It will clear the sinuses along

with make a room smell for days.

Olive leaf really works well. Start with 450 mg a day for 3 days then

increase slowly to 2,000 mg a day to the 7th day. Then for 7 days take

2,000 mg a day. If you have a really bad case continue to take 450 mg for 30 days after.

Olive leaf works so well the die off can make your sicker for a few days

that is why you start at a low mg of 450 and slowly increase.

You will need to take activated charcoal and or clay with it as well to

clean up the die off thus helping the liver. Both of these need to be

taken 2 hours before and or after all food, supplements and or medication

as the absorb everything.

Do not take proboitics while taking the olive leaf however the minute

you stop start the probiotcs however please try and take them on an empty

stomach.

From:

I'm not sure what to do now. The Candida was awful. I take probiotics

regularly and had to take Nystatin to calm it down. If the iodine

causes the Candida..... should I take it??

[Guest guest]

I guess you haven't read her latest article then. Oh, in one

sentence she says she doesn't want to blame the victim. However,

the rest of the entire article was all about how everyone with

thyroid disease needs to investigate that theory to see whether it's

true. If you have no trouble speaking out, then investigate the

other meditative psychiatric practices to find out what mind-body

connection is causing your thyroid disease. This is the same tripe

being peddled by Oprah's bunch.

This is a thyroid expert/advocate??? Puhleeeze!

> >

> > I read 's article that strongly suggested that thyroid

disease is

> associated with personality type and a problem with speaking out,

so it

> causes a physical problem in women's throats. Uh, not exactly

> scientific, and pretty condescending to people who have a very

serious

> physical disease. I would take everything she says with a bag of

salt

> (a grain is too small).

>

[Guest guest]

,

I haven't had a problem with Candida in years. The Iodoral

brought it on like a " wildfire. " I had some unopened Nystatin

(probably 5 yrs. old) that I took immediately when I recognized the

symptoms. My problem is: I want to take the Iodoral, but don't want

the Candida. Does anyone deal with this???

Thanks for your help.

>

> ,

>

> Have you addressed candida with diet and or herbs.

>

> There are several products that really make a difference with

> candida, grapefruit seed extract, oil of oregano and olive leaf.

>

> Oil of oregano is really strong in smell if it is the real things

so

> do not often recommend that one. It will clear the sinuses along

> with make a room smell for days.

>

> Olive leaf really works well. Start with 450 mg a day for 3 days

then

> increase slowly to 2,000 mg a day to the 7th day. Then for 7 days

take

> 2,000 mg a day. If you have a really bad case continue to take 450

mg for

> 30 days after.

>

> Olive leaf works so well the die off can make your sicker for a few

days

> that is why you start at a low mg of 450 and slowly increase.

>

> You will need to take activated charcoal and or clay with it as

well to

> clean up the die off thus helping the liver. Both of these need

to be

> taken 2 hours before and or after all food, supplements and or

medication

> as the absorb everything.

>

> Do not take proboitics while taking the olive leaf however the

minute

> you stop start the probiotcs however please try and take them on an

empty

> stomach.

>

>

>

> From:

>

> I'm not sure what to do now. The Candida was awful. I take

probiotics

> regularly and had to take Nystatin to calm it down. If the iodine

> causes the Candida..... should I take it??

>

[Guest guest]

,

Really do not know what to tell you. The herbs will work.

Lugol's is one of the recommendations for candida.

How much lugol's are you taking? You may have not been

consuming enough to kill them just get the parasites really

upset and fighting back. Iodine: The Candida Killer!

http://iodine4health.com/disease/candida/eby_candida.htm

http://www.colonhealthinfo.com/problems/candida.htm

Natural Cures for Candida

http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/candida.html

http://www.health-science-spirit.com/free-candida.htm

"Ionic zinc is also antifungal, and dietary supplements of zinc can also be helpful in treating candida infections. According to this article, it works synergistically with iodine. How much zinc? ... Just don't take more zinc than will make you nauseous or more than one milligram per pound of body weight a day (2.2 mg/kg) for more than a month."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=AbstractPlus & list_uids=9659710

From:

,

I haven't had a problem with Candida in years. The Iodoral

brought it on like a "wildfire." I had some unopened Nystatin

(probably 5 yrs. old) that I took immediately when I recognized the

symptoms. My problem is: I want to take the Iodoral, but don't want

the Candida. Does anyone deal with this???

Thanks for your help.

[Guest guest]

I was taking 25mg of Iodoral for a week....(felt that the candida was

coming on) then 50 mg for 3 days when the candida hit hard!!!

>

>

> ,

>

> Really do not know what to tell you. The herbs will work.

> Lugol's is one of the recommendations for candida.

>

> How much lugol's are you taking? You may have not been

> consuming enough to kill them just get the parasites really

> upset and fighting back.

> Iodine: The Candida Killer!

> http://iodine4health.com/disease/candida/eby_candida.htm

>

> http://www.colonhealthinfo.com/problems/candida.htm

> Natural Cures for Candida

> http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/candida.html

> http://www.health-science-spirit.com/free-candida.htm

>

> " Ionic zinc is also antifungal, and dietary supplements of zinc can

also be

> helpful in treating candida infections. According to this article,

it works

> synergistically with iodine. How much zinc? ... Just don't take

more zinc

> than will make you nauseous or more than one milligram per pound of

body

> weight a day (2.2 mg/kg) for more than a month. "

> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih

> gov/sites/entrez?

cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=AbstractPlus & list_uids=9659710

>

>

> From:

>

>

> ,

> I haven't had a problem with Candida in years. The Iodoral

> brought it on like a " wildfire. " I had some unopened Nystatin

> (probably 5 yrs. old) that I took immediately when I recognized the

> symptoms. My problem is: I want to take the Iodoral, but don't want

> the Candida. Does anyone deal with this???

> Thanks for your help.

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Before the popular anti-fungal drugs like Nystatin became available,

Iodine was used to treat candida. Iodine is a strong anti-fungal.

You are probably experiencing die-off symptoms. Since I started

taking Iodoral two weeks ago, my candida has greatly improved. My

tongue is no longer white.

-Dave

> >

> > ,

> >

> > Have you addressed candida with diet and or herbs.

> >

> > There are several products that really make a difference with

> > candida, grapefruit seed extract, oil of oregano and olive leaf.

> >

> > Oil of oregano is really strong in smell if it is the real

things

> so

> > do not often recommend that one. It will clear the sinuses along

> > with make a room smell for days.

> >

> > Olive leaf really works well. Start with 450 mg a day for 3

days

> then

> > increase slowly to 2,000 mg a day to the 7th day. Then for 7

days

> take

> > 2,000 mg a day. If you have a really bad case continue to take

450

> mg for

> > 30 days after.

> >

> > Olive leaf works so well the die off can make your sicker for a

few

> days

> > that is why you start at a low mg of 450 and slowly increase.

> >

> > You will need to take activated charcoal and or clay with it as

> well to

> > clean up the die off thus helping the liver. Both of these

need

> to be

> > taken 2 hours before and or after all food, supplements and or

> medication

> > as the absorb everything.

> >

> > Do not take proboitics while taking the olive leaf however the

> minute

> > you stop start the probiotcs however please try and take them on

an

> empty

> > stomach.

> >

> >

> >

> > From:

> >

> > I'm not sure what to do now. The Candida was awful. I take

> probiotics

> > regularly and had to take Nystatin to calm it down. If the iodine

> > causes the Candida..... should I take it??

> >

>