Re: In SERIOUS Need of Help

May 13, 2011

>

> Hi All,

>

> I'm in seriously need of help. I have been suffering major breathing

issues... but according to the ER have been experiencing major Panic attacks for

the past week. I have been to the ER 4 times in the past month sent home with

nothing...

>

> Before all these breathing issues, I was on 2 weeks of amoxicillan (875mg two

times a day) for a tooth infection. After about 1 week and a half, all these

breathing issues are now occuring. My understanding is antibiotics causes

candida?

>

> Are any of you experiencing similar issues? My feel like I never get enough

breath (constantly) and my heart races often, and then I think I hyperventilate

....

>

> Please help me if you can. Any input is GREATLY appreciated!

>

+++Hi Tony,

All drugs and antibiotics are toxic (poisonous) to your body, so taking them can

cause your body to create candida, a fungus, in order to clean up those toxins.

Panic attacks are caused by your body's reaction to poisons, which makes it run

on its fight/flight nervous system which changes many things throughout your

body, including increasing your heart rate, and breathing. That means your body

is doing what it can to compensate for the poisons in order to maintain its

health as best it can.

However, you probably do not just have this issue, since most people today are

unhealthy and have other health issues as well. That is because of the Five

Primary Causes for ALL Failing Health:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/health2.php

1. Lack of the correct combination of nutrients that all humans need in order to

be healthy.

2. Lack of oxygen at a cellular level.

3. Accumulation of toxins, poisons, and waste because of an inability of the

body to detoxify like it should.

4. Lowered vitality (energy) due to stress, shock, injury, emotional upsets,

losses, relationship or financial worries, being unhealthy, etc.

5. Poor " Nutritional Status " acquired from parents upon conception.

Sorry, but we do not advise treatments for individual health issues, because we

treat the whole body, and not individual symptoms or reactions like doctor do,

which we know does not help and often makes us sicker.

However, until you get back to us with your other health issues, you can do deep

breathing exercises to help switch your body over from running on its

fight/flight nervous system as explained in this article:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/breath4.php

I also suggest you take the Candida Questionnaire:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro3.php

However, even if you do not have candida this program is an overall healing

program that improves anyone's health, as proved by these 200 Success Stories:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/success/index.php

If you have candida read two important articles so you understand what you need

to do and why:

How to Successfully Overcome Candida:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php

Curing Candida, How to Get Started:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php

If you do not have candida read Foods That Damage, Foods That Heal:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal13.php

The best in health, Bee

May 15, 2011

Hi Bee,

Thank you for your response. I was informed by my naturapathic doctor that I

have candida issues. I'm not sure if the amoxicillin or candida is the cause of

it or the shortness of breath/panic attacks, but I do know that about 1 1/2

weeks after the antibiotics is when i started suffering the breathing issues. I

also took the candida questionnaire test which shows that yeast is likely

related.

I have been following your diet plans for a few days. So far the breathing

issues/rapid heart beat are still here and I feel as if a panic attack can occur

randomly, but maybe it needs time.

Do you know anyone who has had shortness of breath/panic attacks? Anything else

that can help with them?

I appreciate your time.

Tony

> +++Hi Tony,

>

> All drugs and antibiotics are toxic (poisonous) to your body, so taking them

can cause your body to create candida, a fungus, in order to clean up those

toxins.

>

> Panic attacks are caused by your body's reaction to poisons, which makes it

run on its fight/flight nervous system which changes many things throughout your

body, including increasing your heart rate, and breathing. That means your body

is doing what it can to compensate for the poisons in order to maintain its

health as best it can.

>

> However, you probably do not just have this issue, since most people today are

unhealthy and have other health issues as well. That is because of the Five

Primary Causes for ALL Failing Health:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/health2.php

>

> 1. Lack of the correct combination of nutrients that all humans need in order

to be healthy.

> 2. Lack of oxygen at a cellular level.

> 3. Accumulation of toxins, poisons, and waste because of an inability of the

body to detoxify like it should.

> 4. Lowered vitality (energy) due to stress, shock, injury, emotional upsets,

losses, relationship or financial worries, being unhealthy, etc.

> 5. Poor " Nutritional Status " acquired from parents upon conception.

>

> Sorry, but we do not advise treatments for individual health issues, because

we treat the whole body, and not individual symptoms or reactions like doctor

do, which we know does not help and often makes us sicker.

>

> However, until you get back to us with your other health issues, you can do

deep breathing exercises to help switch your body over from running on its

fight/flight nervous system as explained in this article:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/breath4.php

>

> I also suggest you take the Candida Questionnaire:

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro3.php

>

> However, even if you do not have candida this program is an overall healing

program that improves anyone's health, as proved by these 200 Success Stories:

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/success/index.php

>

> If you have candida read two important articles so you understand what you

need to do and why:

>

> How to Successfully Overcome Candida:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php

>

> Curing Candida, How to Get Started:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php

>

> If you do not have candida read Foods That Damage, Foods That Heal:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal13.php

>

> The best in health, Bee

>

May 15, 2011

>

> Hi Bee,

>

> Thank you for your response. I was informed by my naturapathic doctor that I

have candida issues. I'm not sure if the amoxicillin or candida is the cause of

it or the shortness of breath/panic attacks, but I do know that about 1 1/2

weeks after the antibiotics is when i started suffering the breathing issues. I

also took the candida questionnaire test which shows that yeast is likely

related.

>

> I have been following your diet plans for a few days. So far the breathing

issues/rapid heart beat are still here and I feel as if a panic attack can occur

randomly, but maybe it needs time.

>

> Do you know anyone who has had shortness of breath/panic attacks? Anything

else that can help with them?

>

> I appreciate your time.

> Tony

@@ Snip

@@ Hi Tony,

Bee has already given some advice in regards to panic attacks and how to address

them. Nonetheless, I will supplement you with some assistance and reassurance,

if I can.

However, years ago I suffered Panic attacks, hyperventilation /shortness of

breath, palpitations/rapid heart rate in conjunction with many other symptoms.

I seen doctors, therapists, did their tests, tried some medications, tried some

anti-anxiety talk programs, forums and more .... all led to nowhere

But I am plagued no more with these issues. And you will to. And NO, you

will not die of a Panic Attack.

And your speculation is correct, you need to give the diet plan more time.

Eliminating the Sugar/Sweeteners, Caffeine(Coffee/Tea), MSG,..etc will make an

eventual big difference in helping you rid yourself of Panic Attacks and much

more. Of course ensure you are taking all the suggested supplements and

following the diet , since that will play a major role in your path back to

health.

Furthermore, I would recommend you find an interest/s that distracts your

thoughts i.e video games, photography, sketching, ..etc. Watching television

is probably not an interest that is relative for these purposes, in regards to

interests.

Distraction is a major key in assisting you from thinking about your symptoms

all the time.

Walking up and down streets, hills or stairs is in particular good for helping

relieve/minimize anxiety/panic and depression. This is because it is a form of

cardiovascular exercise , but low impact, which has been proven to help many

suffers better than medication. This type of exercise will burn off adrenaline

and raise endorphins or feel good chemicals in the brain, thus it will help

alleviate anxiety, depression and improve sleep as well.

Moreover, when you feel the sensation of the panicky feelings begin , get a

glass of room temperature water , sit down and sip it. While doing this ,

straighten your legs and then flex and relax your thigh muscles. Count each time

you do this action and do this until you reach 100-200 times. The thigh muscles

are one of the largest muscles of the body and thus use a lot of energy when

activated.

This will help burn the adrenaline, distract your mind and slow or end the

panicky sensations, altogether. Also, work at breathing through your nose and

not your mouth, when you feel those anxious or panicky feeling coming on. Just

shut that sucker ! .. :]

You may also discover taking Epsom baths also are very relaxing and soothing.

Anyway, Tony, by implementing this program you are assured to rid yourself of

your Panic attacks and are doing what many anxiety/panic suffers don't. And

that is to correct your true nutritional imbalances and ultimately the cure for

your ill manifestations.

I have been through all this, you will survive and get past this bad patch in

your life. Even if you are unsure, right now. Remember step by step, day by

day. Because, you are on the right path to better days, ahead; that I'm

certain.

In Solidarity,

Ed

group moderator

May 16, 2011

>

> Hi Tony,

>

> I have had panic attacks. I went to www.normalbreathing.com and saw a big

improvement,

> in fact I feel cured, although of course it takes time to be able to say

that.

>

> Apparently many of us hyperventilate without knowing it and this is the

original cause of

> our anxiety. Changing my breathing stops a panic attack before it starts.

+++Hi Lesley,

Please do not make recommendations like that on my group, since I've written

about the Buteyko Method of breathing as follows:

I disagree with Buteyko's theory about why asthmatics should do deep breathing.

Buteyko's theory was that asthmatics " chronically overbreathe " and the exercises

are designed to teach asthmatics to breathe less. To simply state they should

" breathe less " is ridiculous.

Asthmatics do not " purposely " change their breathing patterns. Breathing

patterns are governed by many processes throughout the body. Breathing exercises

help, but the main question is " what is causing their breathing problems? " The

" true " cause is what should be treated, and not the " affect " like breathing

patterns.

Also it is crazy to assume natural body responses like yawning, sighing and deep

breathing are the opposite of what anyone should do for good lung function,

since they are the " effect " and not the " cause " of improper lung function, in

addition to improper lung cell construction.

The biggest problem with people's lungs today is because they aren't getting

enough good saturated fats, which makes the lungs weak. In order for lung cells

to be healthy so a person can breathe better, their cell membranes must be

constructed out of 100% saturated fat, i.e. butter, lard, coconut oil, etc.

It takes time for lung cell membranes to be re-constructed, and saturated fats

must have other fats I recommend in order to work properly, i.e. omega 3,

vitamins A, D & E, along with other nutrients like protein, minerals, vitamins,

etc. That's why I write that all nutrients work together.

Bee

May 16, 2011

HOWDY ED ---

Just a treasure trove of information in your reply! I try to not bother Bee &

the Moderators with so many of my issues. I do searches here in the group & on

Bee's website if I have a question.

I suffered from Panic Attacks in my 30's (20 yrs. ago). Perhaps as many as 20

per day. Doctors put me on Tegretol, an Epileptic anti-seizure medication. It

made me feel rather loopy, but it did help somewhat & I stayed on it for about a

year. Then one day, I decided I would try to overcome it on my own.

Throughout the years since, I have ALMOST had Panic Attacks. I tell myself that

it will pass & that I will not die from it. I do deep breathing & just wait it

out. Still they are pretty spooky.

But your suggestions have given me a new direction if another one should occur.

It's been a while, maybe 9 months.

When your answers help one person, they also help countless others. Thank you to

Bee & all of the moderators for being here for us.

DeBBie in TeXaS

May 16, 2011

Ed, thank you for such the encouraging post. I will continue with the program

and will definitely let everyone know when I get better.

I appreciate everything.

- tony

>

> @@ Snip

>

> @@ Hi Tony,

>

> Bee has already given some advice in regards to panic attacks and how to

address them. Nonetheless, I will supplement you with some assistance and

reassurance, if I can.

>

> However, years ago I suffered Panic attacks, hyperventilation /shortness of

breath, palpitations/rapid heart rate in conjunction with many other symptoms.

I seen doctors, therapists, did their tests, tried some medications, tried some

anti-anxiety talk programs, forums and more .... all led to nowhere

>

> But I am plagued no more with these issues. And you will to. And NO, you

will not die of a Panic Attack.

>

@@ Snip

- Unnecessary text edited out

May 17, 2011

Hi Ed,

I have another question for you. Did you get random panic attacks? As you can

see, it's about 2:12am and I'm not asleep because everytime I'm about to fall

asleep, my heart races and I feel shortness of breath. Did you experience that?

If so, what did you do to get some sleep?

Last monday, doctors prescribed Ativan/Lorazepam to calm me down, but I'm trying

to quit it completely due to the side effects and CRAZY withdrawal symptoms you

can get.

Thanks again,

Tony

> >

> > Hi Bee,

> >

> > Thank you for your response. I was informed by my naturapathic doctor that I

have candida issues. I'm not sure if the amoxicillin or candida is the cause of

it or the shortness of breath/panic attacks, but I do know that about 1 1/2

weeks after the antibiotics is when i started suffering the breathing issues. I

also took the candida questionnaire test which shows that yeast is likely

related.

> >

> > I have been following your diet plans for a few days. So far the breathing

issues/rapid heart beat are still here and I feel as if a panic attack can occur

randomly, but maybe it needs time.

> >

> > Do you know anyone who has had shortness of breath/panic attacks? Anything

else that can help with them?

> >

> > I appreciate your time.

> > Tony

>

> @@ Snip

>

> @@ Hi Tony,

>

> Bee has already given some advice in regards to panic attacks and how to

address them. Nonetheless, I will supplement you with some assistance and

reassurance, if I can.

>

> However, years ago I suffered Panic attacks, hyperventilation /shortness of

breath, palpitations/rapid heart rate in conjunction with many other symptoms.

I seen doctors, therapists, did their tests, tried some medications, tried some

anti-anxiety talk programs, forums and more .... all led to nowhere

>

> But I am plagued no more with these issues. And you will to. And NO, you

will not die of a Panic Attack.

>

> And your speculation is correct, you need to give the diet plan more time.

Eliminating the Sugar/Sweeteners, Caffeine(Coffee/Tea), MSG,..etc will make an

eventual big difference in helping you rid yourself of Panic Attacks and much

more. Of course ensure you are taking all the suggested supplements and

following the diet , since that will play a major role in your path back to

health.

>

> Furthermore, I would recommend you find an interest/s that distracts your

thoughts i.e video games, photography, sketching, ..etc. Watching television

is probably not an interest that is relative for these purposes, in regards to

interests.

>

> Distraction is a major key in assisting you from thinking about your symptoms

all the time.

>

> Walking up and down streets, hills or stairs is in particular good for helping

relieve/minimize anxiety/panic and depression. This is because it is a form of

cardiovascular exercise , but low impact, which has been proven to help many

suffers better than medication. This type of exercise will burn off adrenaline

and raise endorphins or feel good chemicals in the brain, thus it will help

alleviate anxiety, depression and improve sleep as well.

>

> Moreover, when you feel the sensation of the panicky feelings begin , get a

glass of room temperature water , sit down and sip it. While doing this ,

straighten your legs and then flex and relax your thigh muscles. Count each time

you do this action and do this until you reach 100-200 times. The thigh muscles

are one of the largest muscles of the body and thus use a lot of energy when

activated.

>

> This will help burn the adrenaline, distract your mind and slow or end the

panicky sensations, altogether. Also, work at breathing through your nose and

not your mouth, when you feel those anxious or panicky feeling coming on. Just

shut that sucker ! .. :]

>

> You may also discover taking Epsom baths also are very relaxing and soothing.

>

> Anyway, Tony, by implementing this program you are assured to rid yourself of

your Panic attacks and are doing what many anxiety/panic suffers don't. And

that is to correct your true nutritional imbalances and ultimately the cure for

your ill manifestations.

>

> I have been through all this, you will survive and get past this bad patch in

your life. Even if you are unsure, right now. Remember step by step, day by

day. Because, you are on the right path to better days, ahead; that I'm

certain.

>

> In Solidarity,

> Ed

> group moderator

>

May 17, 2011

Hi Tony,

I have had the reactions you are having, but only once I started on Bee's diet.

A racing heart can be the result of healing reactions, and since the body heals

and rejuvenates at night, it makes sense that that's when you're having this

problem.

One thing that really helped me was Bee's deep breathing exercises. They help

to change the body over to the parasympathetic nervous system.

Here are the instructions:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/breath4.php

Group Moderator

>

> Hi Ed,

>

> I have another question for you. Did you get random panic attacks? As you can

see, it's about 2:12am and I'm not asleep because everytime I'm about to fall

asleep, my heart races and I feel shortness of breath. Did you experience that?

If so, what did you do to get some sleep?

>

> Last monday, doctors prescribed Ativan/Lorazepam to calm me down, but I'm

trying to quit it completely due to the side effects and CRAZY withdrawal

symptoms you can get.

>

> Thanks again,

> Tony

May 17, 2011

>

> Hi Ed,

>

> I have another question for you. Did you get random panic attacks? As you can

see, it's about 2:12am and I'm not asleep because every time I'm about to fall

asleep, my heart races and I feel shortness of breath. Did you experience that?

If so, what did you do to get some sleep?

>

> Last Monday, doctors prescribed Ativan/Lorazepam to calm me down, but I'm

trying to quit it completely due to the side effects and CRAZY withdrawal

symptoms you can get.

>

> Thanks again,

> Tony

@@ Snip

@@ Hi Tony,

First, please trim your messages and leave only some of the previous message in

reference.

Secondly, yes, I experienced random panic attacks,shortness of breath but mostly

at night when my mind was not occupied. I experienced muscle spasms/aches,

jerking out sleep, insomnia, heightened senses i.e temperature fluctuations,

hearing ....

Of course, panic attacks may happen at anytime due to a combination of two major

influences : imbalance/deficiency of nutrients and focusing on imaginary,

fearful thoughts of symptoms. Which one makes worst by doing " what if "

thinking.

Thus, I already given you some previous ideas to cope with these issues. The

nutrients on this program and the other ideas for coping

will help you address your panic issues and the related insomnia.

You may find passion flower tea useful. Ensure you buy the tea leaves from the

health food shop and not the tea bags preferably, for more potency. Place the

tea leaves in a tea ball or in the infuser of a kettle and let it steep in the

boiling water for a couple of minutes. Do this after an Epsom bath for

relaxation for extra effect. However, try not to overdo the tea. Since even

too much herbal tea can eliminate too many vital minerals. Deficiency of

minerals ( found in Celtic sea salt, water ..etc) can also aggravate anxiety and

depression too. Thus, why Celtic sea salt is important.

Everything works together ; food & supplements.

The above is probably equally effective as Ativan/Lorazepam without the side

effects. Furthermore, Ativan can cause sleep problems (insomnia),

hyperactivity, agitation, hostility ..etc. Basically it potentially can cause

the anxiety and issues it is suppose to address.

So very counterproductive.

Interestingly, Ativan is meant for treating anxiety not panic disorder.

Zanax/Alprazolam, Valium ..etc is more appropriate and designed for treating

Panic Disorder in regards to mainstream medicine. So your Doctor is not even

prescribing the right medication. Nonetheless, its better you buffer off it ,

Tony. And it shouldn't be too difficult to do, since you haven't taken it very

long.

Your very welcome,

Ed

group moderator

May 17, 2011

> You may find passion flower tea useful. Ensure you buy the tea leaves from the

health food shop and not the tea bags preferably, for more potency. Place the

tea leaves in a tea ball or in the infuser of a kettle and let it steep in the

boiling water for a couple of minutes. Do this after an Epsom bath for

relaxation for extra effect. However, try not to overdo the tea. Since even

too much herbal tea can eliminate too many vital minerals. Deficiency of

minerals ( found in Celtic sea salt, water ..etc) can also aggravate anxiety and

depression too. Thus, why Celtic sea salt is important.

> Everything works together ; food & supplements.

>

> The above is probably equally effective as Ativan/Lorazepam without the side

effects. Furthermore, Ativan can cause sleep problems (insomnia),

hyperactivity, agitation, hostility ..etc. Basically it potentially can cause

the anxiety and issues it is suppose to address.

> So very counterproductive.

>

> Interestingly, Ativan is meant for treating anxiety not panic disorder.

Zanax/Alprazolam, Valium ..etc is more appropriate and designed for treating

Panic Disorder in regards to mainstream medicine. So your Doctor is not even

prescribing the right medication. Nonetheless, its better you buffer off it ,

Tony. And it shouldn't be too difficult to do, since you haven't taken it very

long.

>

> Your very welcome,

> Ed

> group moderator

>

Thanks again Ed. Boy I went through what felt like hell today. Tried to go

without Ativan and could not sleep the entire night. Heart was racing and felt

like I was going to die. I'm not sure if this was a regular panic attack already

or if it was due to not having Ativan... but boy was I messed up. Felt

depressed and weird scary suicidal thoughts.. I gave up and just took the Ativan

because I felt as if I were going to die.. I just went to the doctor today, and

we're working to wean off of it. I hope soon. I will definitely give Passion

flower a try if what the doctors suggested doesn't work.

Thanks,

Tony

May 17, 2011

Tony,

i idont know your whole story, but it seems you have been using benzodiazepines

on and off? listen you must know that abruptly stopping benzos causes severe

w/d with rebound insomnia (even if you didnt have it before) panic and anxiety

and 100 other symptoms which you need to be aware of. i know from taking over a

year to taper - because that is just how severe benzo withdrawal is. i can tell

you a lot about how to help yourself with this. i am off benzos over a year and

i have seen many members as well as myself have bad withdrawal symptoms

especially in the first 6-9 minths post withdrawal (w/d) w/d fom benzos tends

to last a very long time before gaba receptors heal, and you will need guidance

throught that separate issue. bees diet of no sugar etc is perfect for w/d.

Feel free to reply to me and i can give you good support sites such as:

www.benzowithdrawal.com

taking ativan here and there is sure to put you into a w/d state which i can

almost guarantee no docs you will see, know anything about, they are clueless

which is why you have been given the drug to begin with, its a hellish

devastating class of drugs b/c its so highly addictive in as little as 2 weeks,

fda has changed some of their warnings to this now for benzos. take care, Tina

fyi most people in benzo w/d cannot easily handle any 'relaxing herbs or teas -

even many are ultra sensitive to supplements - i take mine now but in early w/d

taking magnesium caused severe reactions such as panic - not just my opinion

here - i have seen countless other victims go through very similar in w/d. but

you will heal if you abstain from drus/alcohol and follow a diet as bee

outlines.

>

> Thanks again Ed. Boy I went through what felt like hell today. Tried to go

without Ativan and could not sleep the entire night. Heart was racing and felt

like I was going to die. I'm not sure if this was a regular panic attack already

or if it was due to not having Ativan... but boy was I messed up. Felt

depressed and weird scary suicidal thoughts.. I gave up and just took the Ativan

because I felt as if I were going to die.. I just went to the doctor today, and

we're working to wean off of it. I hope soon. I will definitely give Passion

flower a try if what the doctors suggested doesn't work.

>

> Thanks,

> Tony

>

May 17, 2011

Tony, I just want you to know that I was in your shoes about two months ago. It

is not easy but it CAN be done! I was skeptical too when I couldn't sleep and

my heart pounded in my chest. I also had really bad mental abbherations, but it

all resolved. You must go slow cutting down by .25 every couple of weeks or so

depending on how much you're currently on. You did say that the doc is helping

you wean off, so you will most likely wean at a rate that your brain can regain

itself without getting those terrible thoughts again. I was only on 1 mg and I

thought I couldn't do without it, but I was wrong. You will be just fine. Lots

of healing waves your way...

Lore

>

> Tony,

> Weaning off Lorazepam/Ativan should be done slowly as it is addictive

> and can cause awful side effects. My husband was on it and had to come

> off very slowly. He cut the pills in quarters and dropped by 1/4 at a

> time. He had to hold it there for a week or so before dropping the next

> quarter tab. He even cut the quarters in half - it was just crumbs

> sometimes..... It can be done! But carefully. His doctor had told him

> he may feel like he's going crazy as he weans off of it.........

> Take care,

> -Sharon

>

> > >

> >

> > Thanks again Ed. Boy I went through what felt like hell today. Tried

> > to go without Ativan and could not sleep the entire night. Heart was

> > racing and felt like I was going to die. I'm not sure if this was a

> > regular panic attack already or if it was due to not having Ativan...

> > but boy was I messed up. Felt depressed and weird scary suicidal

> > thoughts.. I gave up and just took the Ativan because I felt as if I

> > were going to die.. I just went to the doctor today, and we're working

> > to wean off of it. I hope soon. I will definitely give Passion flower

> > a try if what the doctors suggested doesn't work.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Tony

> >

>

May 17, 2011

>Hi Ed,

You mentioned passion flower tea. What about lemon balm tea? I heard it was good

to relax a person. Then I read it can help palpitations, and even reduce

overactive thyroid. Will the lemon balm interfer with detoxing, or help in

detoxing? I bought a lemon balm plant, not the supplements. Thanks.

C.

> >

> > Hi Ed,

> >

> > I have another question for you. Did you get random panic attacks? As you

can see, it's about 2:12am and I'm not asleep because every time I'm about to

fall asleep, my heart races and I feel shortness of breath. Did you experience

that? If so, what did you do to get some sleep?

> >

> > Last Monday, doctors prescribed Ativan/Lorazepam to calm me down, but I'm

trying to quit it completely due to the side effects and CRAZY withdrawal

symptoms you can get.

> >

> > Thanks again,

> > Tony

>

> @@ Snip

>

> @@ Hi Tony,

>

> You may find passion flower tea useful. Ensure you buy the tea leaves from the

health food shop and not the tea bags preferably, for more potency. Place the

tea leaves in a tea ball or in the infuser of a kettle and let it steep in the

boiling water for a couple of minutes. Do this after an Epsom bath for

relaxation for extra effect. However, try not to overdo the tea. Since even

too much herbal tea can eliminate too many vital minerals. Deficiency of

minerals ( found in Celtic sea salt, water ..etc) can also aggravate anxiety and

depression too. Thus, why Celtic sea salt is important.

> Everything works together ; food & supplements.

>

> The above is probably equally effective as Ativan/Lorazepam without the side

effects. > Your very welcome,

> Ed

> group moderator

>

May 17, 2011

>

> Tony,

> i idont know your whole story, but it seems you have been using

benzodiazepines on and off? listen you must know that abruptly stopping benzos

causes severe w/d with rebound insomnia (even if you didnt have it before) panic

and anxiety and 100 other symptoms which you need to be aware of. i know from

taking over a year to taper - because that is just how severe benzo withdrawal

is. i can tell you a lot about how to help yourself with this. i am off benzos

over a year and i have seen many members as well as myself have bad withdrawal

symptoms especially in the first 6-9 minths post withdrawal (w/d) w/d fom

benzos tends to last a very long time before gaba receptors heal, and you will

need guidance throught that separate issue. bees diet of no sugar etc is perfect

for w/d. Feel free to reply to me and i can give you good support sites such

as: www.benzowithdrawal.com

> taking ativan here and there is sure to put you into a w/d state which i can

almost guarantee no docs you will see, know anything about, they are clueless

which is why you have been given the drug to begin with, its a hellish

devastating class of drugs b/c its so highly addictive in as little as 2 weeks,

fda has changed some of their warnings to this now for benzos. take care, Tina

> fyi most people in benzo w/d cannot easily handle any 'relaxing herbs or teas

- even many are ultra sensitive to supplements - i take mine now but in early

w/d taking magnesium caused severe reactions such as panic - not just my opinion

here - i have seen countless other victims go through very similar in w/d. but

you will heal if you abstain from drus/alcohol and follow a diet as bee

outlines.

>

@@ Snip

@@ Hi Tina,

Thanks for the input, I'm certain Tony appreciates the support.

However, I reviewed Tony's message history and he has only been on the Ativan

for approximately a week. So not long enough to develop severe withdrawal

symptoms. He should not have much difficulty tapering off & eliminating the

benzos with a physician's help, if necessary. I took Ativan, longer than

that and I had little difficulty eliminating them myself.

Albeit, I do agree with you , if one is taking Ativan/benzos for a time, at a

high dosage. One should taper off slow, usually with physician's guidance.

Furthermore, I concur about the vast withdrawal symptoms and side effects

associated with benzodiazepines, they can be nasty.

Lastly, Tony, has not been on the Ativan long enough for the Passion tea, I

recommended, to be a problem in regards to Benzo withdrawal complications.

Furthermore, I've personally drank passion flower tea for years , sometimes

steadily when needed without any problems.

Nonetheless, Tina, your concerns in general of withdrawal symptoms of

benzodiazepines is noteworthy.

Much Appreciated,

Ed

group moderator

May 17, 2011

>

> >Hi Ed,

> You mentioned passion flower tea. What about lemon balm tea? I heard it was

good to relax a person. Then I read it can help palpitations, and even reduce

overactive thyroid. Will the lemon balm interfer with detoxing, or help in

detoxing? I bought a lemon balm plant, not the supplements. Thanks.

> C.

>

@@ Hi ,

Lemon balm tea was not authorized by me, was it? So no! I have

spoken ...LOL!

Joking, , sure Lemon balm tea is okay for relaxation as well. However, like

all teas , it should be used within moderation. Since too much, can cause too

many minerals to be lost.

Lemon-balm tea is known as a tonic (restorative) not a detoxifier. So no, it

will interfere nor assist in detoxification per se.

Congrats on your investment. Plants in general, according to NASA are brilliant

air cleaners/purifiers and superior to most any market air purifiers. Just

another way mainstream business scams the people of society out of their money.

Furthermore, plants have been proven to improve mood as well as some plants like

Spider plants and the Peace Lily detox out-gasing of new furnishing or carpeting

of chemicals i.e formaldehyde . Not bad for plants , eh?

Warm Regards,

Ed

group moderator

May 18, 2011

Oh good, I am glad he had not been on them long - I didn't see the history, and

have a new brace on my broken arm making typing difficult and even hitting the

keys all with one hand only is challenging - I should have looked first.

>

> Thanks for the input, I'm certain Tony appreciates the support.

>

> However, I reviewed Tony's message history and he has only been on the Ativan

for approximately a week. So not long enough to develop severe withdrawal

symptoms. He should not have much difficulty tapering off & eliminating the

benzos with a physician's help, if necessary. I took Ativan, longer than

that and I had little difficulty eliminating them myself.

>

May 18, 2011

Hi Sharon,

I've only taken it for a week. Do you think I will still need to cut them in

half?

Thanks,

tony

>

> Tony,

> Weaning off Lorazepam/Ativan should be done slowly as it is addictive

> and can cause awful side effects. My husband was on it and had to come

> off very slowly. He cut the pills in quarters and dropped by 1/4 at a

> time. He had to hold it there for a week or so before dropping the next

> quarter tab. He even cut the quarters in half - it was just crumbs

> sometimes..... It can be done! But carefully. His doctor had told him

> he may feel like he's going crazy as he weans off of it.........

> Take care,

> -Sharon

May 18, 2011

Hi,

Thank you for you tips. I have only been taking Ativan for a week. Do you think

I will experience much withdrawal symptoms? I feel like I did.. I'm on melatonin

right now to help me sleep...