Doctor Appointment

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Jessi, I hope you get some answers when you see your Dr.'s this week. Have

you been drinking enough of water?? Marsha

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Hope your Sleeping Now!!! You had a busy day today )

{{{ Lullaby Hugs }}}

Helen

Hi Everyone,I'm so sorry i haven't been around much or posting ( i haven't been doingvery well. Since last Friday i have had NO energy! I've been sleeping (lol yeah 'I' and'sleep' in the same sentence! LOL) 10+ hours a night and still feel like i haven't slept indays and like going into town or just up the road to the cross roads to get gas for the truckand the paper takes everything i have in me to do. I've never felt like this before! I see mypulmo again tomorrow at 11:30 (we have to leave here by 7am) and then Friday i have anappointment at 1 something to meet my new neuro. I'll let you all know what happens when ican. You have all been really quiet you okay?! ?!-- Jessi

BLESS OUR COUNTRY !!!

AND

ALL WHO SERVE !!!

~SigCity~

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Holly,

I am lucky enough to have recently found a doctor who doesn't say one word

about vaccination, or our choice not to follow the well-child schedule, or the

fact that we don't go in when the kids are sick. We go in once a year, the

baby hasn't been in yet and she's 11 months.

But before this doc, we went through a few of them. There were some who said

they would not pressure me to vax, and then did it anyway when we were face

to face. Basically, just remember that you are the mom and they can't force

you to do anything. I would say more likely than not you will have to sit

through a lecture about what the doctor believes. I suggest the " nod and smile "

techinique follwed by " no thank you " . You can try to educate if you want, but I

personally have decided that it is far too big a drain on my energy to try

and educate people who are completely closed to any alternative ideas.

If you refuse to vax, they CAN refuse to see you (they lose money when their

patients don't vax), but no one has refused us.

Stick to your guns and you will do fine.

Jen

In a message dated 3/17/04 10:28:25 AM Central Standard Time,

maymom@... writes:

<<

My daughter has not seen a doctor in over a year. She hasn't been sick so I

never felt the need to take her. Well my hubby is harping because she is

almost two and needs a check up. So I made her a doctors appointment.

With insurance, we were limited on a doctor. I explain that we don't

vaccinate to the receptionist. I asked for a doctor that won't tell me to either

vaccinate or find a new doctor. That is what happened with the ped I went too as

a

child and then took my children too.

I need to know what I should take with me to this appointment. I want to be

prepared just incase it comes down to a battle of whits. I don't expect the

doctor to agree with me. I just don't want to be told to do something that I am

very well informed on. I plan on taking the exemption letter. I just don't

know what else I need.

~`~Holly~`~

iel (5/96) & Jenavieve (5/02)

" It is not how fast we learn that counts. It is learning that counts. "

>>

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Your exemption letter, imho, should be enough. I know with our old

pediatrician here in IL, that's all I did. I gave it to the nurse that was

working him up & she put it in his chart. The doc asked, I said the

exemption was in their files & he said, ok. I know they aren't all like

that, but I would probably say that " you have my exemption, enough said "

in IL

> I need to know what I should take with me to this appointment. I want to

be prepared just incase it comes down to a battle of whits. I don't expect

the doctor to agree with me. I just don't want to be told to do something

that I am very well informed on. I plan on taking the exemption letter. I

just don't know what else I need.

[Guest guest]

I think its best not to try explain your reasons or anything like that....

simply say something like, if you have any information you'd like me to take

home and read I'd be happy to do so, but for now we are not vaccinating.

Good luck

Doctor Appointment

My daughter has not seen a doctor in over a year. She hasn't been sick so I

never felt the need to take her. Well my hubby is harping because she is almost

two and needs a check up. So I made her a doctors appointment.

With insurance, we were limited on a doctor. I explain that we don't vaccinate

to the receptionist. I asked for a doctor that won't tell me to either vaccinate

or find a new doctor. That is what happened with the ped I went too as a child

and then took my children too.

I need to know what I should take with me to this appointment. I want to be

prepared just incase it comes down to a battle of whits. I don't expect the

doctor to agree with me. I just don't want to be told to do something that I am

very well informed on. I plan on taking the exemption letter. I just don't know

what else I need.

~`~Holly~`~

iel (5/96) & Jenavieve (5/02)

" It is not how fast we learn that counts. It is learning that counts. "

[Guest guest]

Holly,

I agree with the previous answers about not getting into a debate with your

doctor. But I am wondering if you know the specific code for your state.

What kind of exemption do you have written up? Religious or philosophical?

It is VERY important to know exactly what is required. I can help you with

this.

Do you know other like minded moms that can tell you about this doctor?

~Carla~

Fear of disease, fear of microorganisms, fear of the unknown, is the tool of the

clever that keeps the weak in line " ~ Tim O'Shea

[Guest guest]

We are in Michigan. Even though Michigan has the three exemptions, I have signed

a religious waiver.

~`~Holly~`~

iel (5/96) & Jenavieve (5/02)

" It is not how fast we learn that counts. It is learning that counts. "

[Guest guest]

Ah, I see you already have that covered. I thought you might like this

resource:

http://www.momvaccines.org/index.html

~Carla~

Fear of disease, fear of microorganisms, fear of the unknown, is the tool of

the clever that keeps the weak in line " ~ Tim O'Shea

-------Original Message-------

We are in Michigan. Even though Michigan has the three exemptions, I have

signed a religious waiver.

~`~Holly~`~

[Guest guest]

susie? what kind of service did they give you for transportation..just curious..Glad to see your going and a little trip to get ya outta the house.....hugs, pattycakes

Doctor appointment

Hi Guys,

Saw the doctor yesterday. Turns out he just wants to "follow" my case.He also wants me to up my Lactulose dosage or that I at least remember to take the crap. I got some tests back from him - blood tests from April & the ultrasound I had last month & all's the same as before LFTs are high, liver looks good on ultrasound but my spleen's enlarged & there's a shadow on my gall bladder (only in views in a sitting position) they recommend a follow up in three months, also, the gall bladder walls are thickening - whatever that means.

I'll be seeing the cardiologist next Monday & he'll set up a stress test. After that I'll be off to Toronto for the rest of the pretransplant tests. At least I'll be getting a free trip to T O - better than nothing.

SuZie

Next time I'm coming back as a cat

[Guest guest]

There's a travel thingy called the Northern Travel Grant - it's not really a grant it's reimbursment - you travel & then bring your receipts to them in the hope they will give you the money back. Since I'm on Disability they'll just give me a plane ticket & housing in Toronto. I think, just have to wait & see. It won't be for a few months anyways.

SuZie

Next time I'm coming back as a cat

Doctor appointment

Hi Guys,

Saw the doctor yesterday. Turns out he just wants to "follow" my case.He also wants me to up my Lactulose dosage or that I at least remember to take the crap. I got some tests back from him - blood tests from April & the ultrasound I had last month & all's the same as before LFTs are high, liver looks good on ultrasound but my spleen's enlarged & there's a shadow on my gall bladder (only in views in a sitting position) they recommend a follow up in three months, also, the gall bladder walls are thickening - whatever that means.

I'll be seeing the cardiologist next Monday & he'll set up a stress test. After that I'll be off to Toronto for the rest of the pretransplant tests. At least I'll be getting a free trip to T O - better than nothing.

SuZie

Next time I'm coming back as a cat

[Guest guest]

Sounds good so far hon.I don't know about the galbladder thickening but maybe someone here does know.Take care and you will enjoy Toronto.

Gail

Doctor appointment

Hi Guys,

Saw the doctor yesterday. Turns out he just wants to "follow" my case.He also wants me to up my Lactulose dosage or that I at least remember to take the crap. I got some tests back from him - blood tests from April & the ultrasound I had last month & all's the same as before LFTs are high, liver looks good on ultrasound but my spleen's enlarged & there's a shadow on my gall bladder (only in views in a sitting position) they recommend a follow up in three months, also, the gall bladder walls are thickening - whatever that means.

I'll be seeing the cardiologist next Monday & he'll set up a stress test. After that I'll be off to Toronto for the rest of the pretransplant tests. At least I'll be getting a free trip to T O - better than nothing.

SuZie

Next time I'm coming back as a cat

[Guest guest]

I've been to Toronto & hated it. Of course that was in the early seventies, maybe it's changed since then.

SuZie

Next time I'm coming back as a cat

Doctor appointment

Hi Guys,

Saw the doctor yesterday. Turns out he just wants to "follow" my case.He also wants me to up my Lactulose dosage or that I at least remember to take the crap. I got some tests back from him - blood tests from April & the ultrasound I had last month & all's the same as before LFTs are high, liver looks good on ultrasound but my spleen's enlarged & there's a shadow on my gall bladder (only in views in a sitting position) they recommend a follow up in three months, also, the gall bladder walls are thickening - whatever that means.

I'll be seeing the cardiologist next Monday & he'll set up a stress test. After that I'll be off to Toronto for the rest of the pretransplant tests. At least I'll be getting a free trip to T O - better than nothing.

SuZie

Next time I'm coming back as a cat

[Guest guest]

They know about it already but I will remind them, often. All I have to do is tell them when the Gastro sets up the appointments & they'll take it from there.

I find that I don't like crowds anymore. I don't know how I'll react to T O but I will adapt.

SuZie

Next time I'm coming back as a cat

Doctor appointment

Hi Guys,

Saw the doctor yesterday. Turns out he just wants to "follow" my case.He also wants me to up my Lactulose dosage or that I at least remember to take the crap. I got some tests back from him - blood tests from April & the ultrasound I had last month & all's the same as before LFTs are high, liver looks good on ultrasound but my spleen's enlarged & there's a shadow on my gall bladder (only in views in a sitting position) they recommend a follow up in three months, also, the gall bladder walls are thickening - whatever that means.

I'll be seeing the cardiologist next Monday & he'll set up a stress test. After that I'll be off to Toronto for the rest of the pretransplant tests. At least I'll be getting a free trip to T O - better than nothing.

SuZie

Next time I'm coming back as a cat

[Guest guest]

I

just hope it happens quicker than your last biopsy did!

De

Doctor appointment

Hi

Guys,

Saw the doctor yesterday. Turns out he just wants

to " follow " my case.He also wants me to up my Lactulose dosage

or that I at least remember to take the crap. I got some tests back from

him - blood tests from April & the ultrasound I had last month & all's

the same as before LFTs are high, liver looks good on ultrasound but my

spleen's enlarged & there's a shadow on my gall bladder (only in views in a

sitting position) they recommend a follow up in three months, also, the

gall bladder walls are thickening - whatever that means.

I'll be seeing the cardiologist next Monday & he'll set up a stress

test. After that I'll be off to Toronto for the rest of the pretransplant tests. At least I'll

be getting a free trip to T O - better than nothing.

SuZie

Next time I'm coming back as a cat

[Guest guest]

You can do lots of window shopping.I used to love wondering the malls on the wkends and look at all the clothes I couldn't buy or some real good sales.Take care hon.

Gail

Doctor appointment

Hi Guys,

Saw the doctor yesterday. Turns out he just wants to "follow" my case.He also wants me to up my Lactulose dosage or that I at least remember to take the crap. I got some tests back from him - blood tests from April & the ultrasound I had last month & all's the same as before LFTs are high, liver looks good on ultrasound but my spleen's enlarged & there's a shadow on my gall bladder (only in views in a sitting position) they recommend a follow up in three months, also, the gall bladder walls are thickening - whatever that means.

I'll be seeing the cardiologist next Monday & he'll set up a stress test. After that I'll be off to Toronto for the rest of the pretransplant tests. At least I'll be getting a free trip to T O - better than nothing.

SuZie

Next time I'm coming back as a cat

[Guest guest]

Make sure they don't forget.You will probably need a note from the doctor.Take care hon.

Gail

Doctor appointment

Hi Guys,

Saw the doctor yesterday. Turns out he just wants to "follow" my case.He also wants me to up my Lactulose dosage or that I at least remember to take the crap. I got some tests back from him - blood tests from April & the ultrasound I had last month & all's the same as before LFTs are high, liver looks good on ultrasound but my spleen's enlarged & there's a shadow on my gall bladder (only in views in a sitting position) they recommend a follow up in three months, also, the gall bladder walls are thickening - whatever that means.

I'll be seeing the cardiologist next Monday & he'll set up a stress test. After that I'll be off to Toronto for the rest of the pretransplant tests. At least I'll be getting a free trip to T O - better than nothing.

SuZie

Next time I'm coming back as a cat

[Guest guest]

You will adapt hon.Your more intune then you think.Take care hon.

Gail

Doctor appointment

Hi Guys,

Saw the doctor yesterday. Turns out he just wants to "follow" my case.He also wants me to up my Lactulose dosage or that I at least remember to take the crap. I got some tests back from him - blood tests from April & the ultrasound I had last month & all's the same as before LFTs are high, liver looks good on ultrasound but my spleen's enlarged & there's a shadow on my gall bladder (only in views in a sitting position) they recommend a follow up in three months, also, the gall bladder walls are thickening - whatever that means.

I'll be seeing the cardiologist next Monday & he'll set up a stress test. After that I'll be off to Toronto for the rest of the pretransplant tests. At least I'll be getting a free trip to T O - better than nothing.

SuZie

Next time I'm coming back as a cat

[Guest guest]

From your lips to the goddess' ears my friend.

SuZie

Next time I'm coming back as a cat

Doctor appointment

Hi Guys,

Saw the doctor yesterday. Turns out he just wants to "follow" my case.He also wants me to up my Lactulose dosage or that I at least remember to take the crap. I got some tests back from him - blood tests from April & the ultrasound I had last month & all's the same as before LFTs are high, liver looks good on ultrasound but my spleen's enlarged & there's a shadow on my gall bladder (only in views in a sitting position) they recommend a follow up in three months, also, the gall bladder walls are thickening - whatever that means.

I'll be seeing the cardiologist next Monday & he'll set up a stress test. After that I'll be off to Toronto for the rest of the pretransplant tests. At least I'll be getting a free trip to T O - better than nothing.

SuZie

Next time I'm coming back as a cat

[Guest guest]

Hi Bee,

Since I've been on your program for almost 2 years and haven't seen a period for

over 2 years now you recommended me going to my doctor for some testing so I did

today.

They took blood and are going to run some tests. Testing hormone levels, if my

body has went into menopause (even though I'm only 30) and test to see if my

brain is signaling to my ovaries (to drop an egg).

The other test they want me to do though is taking progestin for 30 days to see

if I get my period. If I don't then she wants me to take estrogen and progestin

(I believe this is a birth control pill) to see if I then get my period.

Now I know taking hormones are really bad but I'm also concerned that you told

me to go to the doctor since I haven't had a period in over 2 years and you were

concerned about that.

I don't know what to do. Should I take the hormones to find out the results and

then just let my body detox them? Or do I not do the test and lie to my doctor?

Not sure what to do at this point...

Thanks for your help with this.

[Guest guest]

Hi , I noticed that Bee hadn't had a chance to answer you yet. If it was me

I wouldn't take the hormones, but I don't know your history or your other

symptoms. Do you think your periods stopping is anything to do with your weight?

Have you had trouble putting it on? As a fellow old timer who has been on the

diet for 2 years, I wonder can I help? Too overcommitted to help Bee as a

moderator I still try and help especially the parents and long timers having

troubles. Have you been on the full diet for two years or did you take a while

to transition? Have you kept up with the changes Bee has been making? Are you on

the correct supplements and the right dose of HCL? How much have your other

symptoms healed? If you think I can help, don't hesitate to contact me.

All the best

>

> Hi Bee,

> Since I've been on your program for almost 2 years and haven't seen a period

for over 2 years now you recommended me going to my doctor for some testing so I

did today.

>

> They took blood and are going to run some tests. Testing hormone levels, if my

body has went into menopause (even though I'm only 30) and test to see if my

brain is signaling to my ovaries (to drop an egg).

>

> The other test they want me to do though is taking progestin for 30 days to

see if I get my period. If I don't then she wants me to take estrogen and

progestin (I believe this is a birth control pill) to see if I then get my

period.

>

> Now I know taking hormones are really bad but I'm also concerned that you told

me to go to the doctor since I haven't had a period in over 2 years and you were

concerned about that.

>

> I don't know what to do. Should I take the hormones to find out the results

and then just let my body detox them? Or do I not do the test and lie to my

doctor? Not sure what to do at this point...

>

> Thanks for your help with this.

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee,

> Since I've been on your program for almost 2 years and haven't seen a period

for over 2 years now you recommended me going to my doctor for some testing so I

did today.

>

> They took blood and are going to run some tests. Testing hormone levels, if my

body has went into menopause (even though I'm only 30) and test to see if my

brain is signaling to my ovaries (to drop an egg).

>

> The other test they want me to do though is taking progestin for 30 days to

see if I get my period. If I don't then she wants me to take estrogen and

progestin (I believe this is a birth control pill) to see if I then get my

period.

>

> Now I know taking hormones are really bad but I'm also concerned that you told

me to go to the doctor since I haven't had a period in over 2 years and you were

concerned about that.

>

> I don't know what to do. Should I take the hormones to find out the results

and then just let my body detox them? Or do I not do the test and lie to my

doctor? Not sure what to do at this point...

>

+++Hi ,

That's good they did not confirm any abnormality other than hormones levels.

That's actually good news, so we know you just need to stick with this program

since given enough time your body will level out all hormones levels

No, do not take any hormones, which will interfere with your body's ability to

normalize itself like it should.

All the best, Bee