Guest guest Posted April 18, 2004 Report Share Posted April 18, 2004 Bee pollen or royal jelly ABO Specifics Inc. - http://www.foodforyourblood.com B vitamins Greetings to all Does anyone have a source for non yeast B vitamins? nieema Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 > Brewers yeast (vitamin B complex) and goldenseal are > the ones I always stick with. My nutritionist said to me that when people have heart palpitations or other types of adverse reactions, a B-vitamin can sometimes lessen these reactions. In my case however, I tested as being allergic to Brewers Yeast, but there are plenty of other sources of B vitamins. I've had a recurring problem where my right eyelid has " spasms " , and these problems go away when I take Vitamin B12. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 Vitamin B-12 injections have been very helpful to my husband. Taking B-12 in pill form did not have an effect. Cara > > Brewers yeast (vitamin B complex) and goldenseal are > > the ones I always stick with. > > My nutritionist said to me that when people have heart > palpitations or other types of adverse reactions, > a B-vitamin can sometimes lessen these reactions. > In my case however, I tested as being allergic > to Brewers Yeast, but there are plenty of other > sources of B vitamins. > > I've had a recurring problem where my right > eyelid has " spasms " , and these problems go > away when I take Vitamin B12. > > Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 > Vitamin B-12 injections have been very helpful to my husband. Taking > B-12 in pill form did not have an effect. Yes, but which brand did you use? :-) As a result of trying lots and lots of supplements and seeing various practitioners, I've come to the conclusion that there are different types of supplements: 1) the supplements sold in mainstream grocery stores, which are probably worthless 2) the supplements sold in health food stores, which are sometimes okay, but in too many cases are also worthless 3) the supplements sold by multi-level marketing companies, which are too expensive and sometimes difficult to get, but are usually pretty good. 4) the supplements sold by health professionals (chiropracters, alternative medicine practioners), which are usually pretty good, but are difficult to get. I personally only seem to have a reaction to " natural " supplements -- that is, supplements that are close to their food forms. Chemical forms of vitamins or rock-derived minerals have no beneficial effect for me. So, when you say that B12 pills have no effect, I assume you mean that some artificial form of B12 has no effect. It would be interesting to see how he did using a natural B12 supplement. For example, Standard Process makes a product called " Cataplex B12 " . I think Standard Process makes the most effective supplements (overall) of any company, because most everything they sell is natural. For example, read what is written about Cataplex B12: http://www.usaplaza.com/scripts/wcom_producttree.asp?StoreID=1340 & ProductID=4730\ 9 The problem with Standard Process is that the company does not want its products sold over the Internet, or in stores. They want a doctor to " prescribe " it to you. Fortunately there are some ways around this. In my case, I have a local pharmacy/dispensary that breaks this rule, and will sell Standard Process supplements to anybody. Or, you can find websites which break the rules. Once such site is spinelife.com . Another good thing about Standard Process is that their supplements are pretty inexpensive. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 Another way to approach this is to eat foods that are rich in B group vitamins. This way you don't have the absorption problems that occur with tablets or capsules. Fish, fish oil... Also brown rice (go for organic or BD) is a rich source of Bs. Even commercial breakfast cereal is better than tablets!! Here in Aust at least they all have B vits added. Here's a good link - no doubt there would be others to. http://www.penpages.psu.edu/penpages_reference/12101/121012508.html Cheers Re: Re: B vitamins > Vitamin B-12 injections have been very helpful to my husband. Taking > B-12 in pill form did not have an effect. Yes, but which brand did you use? :-) As a result of trying lots and lots of supplements and seeing various practitioners, I've come to the conclusion that there are different types of supplements: 1) the supplements sold in mainstream grocery stores, which are probably worthless 2) the supplements sold in health food stores, which are sometimes okay, but in too many cases are also worthless 3) the supplements sold by multi-level marketing companies, which are too expensive and sometimes difficult to get, but are usually pretty good. 4) the supplements sold by health professionals (chiropracters, alternative medicine practioners), which are usually pretty good, but are difficult to get. I personally only seem to have a reaction to " natural " supplements -- that is, supplements that are close to their food forms. Chemical forms of vitamins or rock-derived minerals have no beneficial effect for me. So, when you say that B12 pills have no effect, I assume you mean that some artificial form of B12 has no effect. It would be interesting to see how he did using a natural B12 supplement. For example, Standard Process makes a product called " Cataplex B12 " . I think Standard Process makes the most effective supplements (overall) of any company, because most everything they sell is natural. For example, read what is written about Cataplex B12: http://www.usaplaza.com/scripts/wcom_producttree.asp?StoreID=1340 & Produc tID=47309 The problem with Standard Process is that the company does not want its products sold over the Internet, or in stores. They want a doctor to " prescribe " it to you. Fortunately there are some ways around this. In my case, I have a local pharmacy/dispensary that breaks this rule, and will sell Standard Process supplements to anybody. Or, you can find websites which break the rules. Once such site is spinelife.com . Another good thing about Standard Process is that their supplements are pretty inexpensive. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 it's b12 vitamin.. and it does work for both pain and energy... if a doctor is willing, injection is better.. i do 0.5cc twice weak (since i can't get b12 through diet).. both lack of b12 and d can cause fatigue and increase pain.. so fibro has gotten better once i've had those corrected, not gone, but much better blessed be lizallisonbraddy <allisonbraddy@...> wrote: I heard that one of the B vits( B 12 maybe?) in high doses can help with fibro pain. I'm not sure which one so I have just been taking B Complex-50 one a day.. along with some other vits that also have B in them. Does anyone have thoughts on this? Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Hi - the neurologist I went to put me on B50 Complex and my foot doc upped it to 2x a day instead of 1x a day. I can't say if it has helped or not. There IS some kind of B complex that is by prescription only he wanted me to take, however insurance does NOT cover it and it is $75 for 60 pills and you have to take 2 a day. He said it takes about 6 weeks to work but some people have found quite significant relief taking it. With my taking the Lyrica and Cymbalta, I just could not manage another $75 out of pocket expense so I didn't even get it filled. I can find the name of it if anyone is interested. It begins with an M. allisonbraddy <allisonbraddy@...> wrote: I heard that one of the B vits( B 12 maybe?) in high doses can help with fibro pain. I'm not sure which one so I have just been taking B Complex-50 one a day.. along with some other vits that also have B in them. Does anyone have thoughts on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Thanks guys! I think maybe I'll up my dose to twice a day as well.Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 Hi Bee, I just joined this group and have read almost all of your articles on the website, if not all. I looked up the ingredients of the Kal Yeast Flakes and I see that taking 1 tbsp 2x a day one would get way over the 50 mg. suggested for each of the B vitamins and also not in equal ratios. Just wanted to know if that's okay? thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge. It is truly amazing ! Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 > > Hi Bee, > > I just joined this group and have read almost all of your articles on the website, if not all. > > I looked up the ingredients of the Kal Yeast Flakes and I see that taking 1 tbsp 2x a day one would get way over the 50 mg. suggested for each of the B vitamins and also not in equal ratios. > > Just wanted to know if that's okay? > > thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge. It is truly amazing ! > +++Hi Patty, Welcome to our group. Wow, if you've read all 750 of my articles you are amazing! I wouldn't recommend Nutritional Yeast Flakes if they weren't okay. Many members, their babies and children, are also taking them and are doing great. It contains other nutrients, not just B vitamins, which all work together, so the individual B vitamins do not have to be balanced like tablets or capsules do. The flakes are more like real food rather than a supplement. The best in health, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 I use a B complex in addition to the ATP Co-Factors (which I actually take as separate B2 and B3 versus buying the actual ATP co-factors as it is much less expensive to buy just the B2 and B3). I also add some B12 periodically but not daily (sublingual and topical with DMSO). I have not seen any B complexes that would have enough B2 and B3 to cover what is included in the ATP Co-Factors. Jaxi On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 1:03 PM, KH <newsie@...> wrote: Hi: I have been taking the ATP Co-Factors (2 tabs per day) and have been seeing here that others are taking what look like total B supplements. Am I correct to assume that they are doing this in place of taking ATP Cofactors or are they in addition? If these other formulas are a substitute, then how are you dosing yourselves with other B supps? I am wondering if people are trying to take these other brands to correspond with the B-2 and B-3 dosages of ATP Cofactors (100 mg. and 500 mg. respectively), or are they following the suggested dosages of the manufacturers of the other brands? When I am trying to read labels, I find that the ingredients don't always line up with ATP Cofactors for the B-2 and B-3. I am thinking of trying to use only one supp for my B's instead of using ATP Cofactors and a B-6, and B12 separately, as I am doing now.Thanks.------------------------------------ All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group IodineOT/The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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