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You'll notice if you read Live Right that even though Ezekiel Bread is a

neutral, Dr. D recommends we (Secretors) have any grains and starches

only1-6 times a week times a week max, and Nonnies have them only 0-3 times

a week. Is that a low recomendation or what? I notice potatoes and sweet

potatoes aren't listed under starches. Don't ever beat yourself consumption

of anything. Just start any changes you wish to make with the new day.

RE: Ezekiel bread

> Ezekiel is a neutral for Os according to Typebase 3, which I checked

today.

> I see and others keep saying to avoid grains is best. Does Dr.

> D'Adamo ever say that same thing? I have not found him saying Os should

> totally eliminate the neutral grains. If D'Adamo were recommending total

> avoidance wouldn't he have put Ezekiel and sprouted wheat, for example,

> under the " avoid " category. Is the reason people on this list say to avoid

> all grains due to the glycemic index factor? Just trying to wrap my brain

> around all of this.

>

> I have been eating only 2 slices of an Ezekiel, spelt or sprouted wheat

> bread per day. Not too bad compared to what I used to eat for regular

wheat

> products and not bad compared to how most of America eats so many bread

> products per day. So I am not beating myself up about my own consumption

but

> am just curious....

> Thanks,

>

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I believe I have read Heidi say in her column that Dr. D thinks that

most Os would be better off without grains, but that he allowed them

in the O diet in a very limited amount to try to make the diet more

acceptable to more people. All grains are not listed as avoids

because Dr. D does not consider them as a poison for Os, but that

doesn't mean that Os should eat a lot of them for best health.

LR4YT also says those with Rh- should reduce their grain consumption

by one servig per week, so that would put Rh- secretors at 0-5 and Rh-

non-secretors at 0-2. 0 means no grains.

Dr. D clearly says that eating grains is not essential to Os health.

Therefore, another way to look at it is that Os would be better off

to eat less, shooting for the bottom end of the frequency range.

Where as meats and veggies are very important to Os health so Os

would be better off to eat them at a frequency at the top end of the

range recommended.

And remember that not all neutrals are the same. You would be better

off eating a neutral meat, fish, veggie, or fruit then you would a

neutral grain.

I will tell you that it took me about 6 months to get to the point

where I stopped substituting neutral grains for the avoid grains and

instead just stopped eating grains every day. Now I don't know where

I would put grains on my plate, or in my stomach, because it is

already full of meat and veggies, along with plenty of olive oil!

As you embrace the good stuff more and fill up on it you won't feel

the need to add grains to your meals. Also it would help if you

accept eating meat and veggies for breafast every day that way you

won't be tempted to eat the standard type of grain based breafast.

Sounds like you are doing well.

Don (O- sec)

> You'll notice if you read Live Right that even though Ezekiel Bread

is a

> neutral, Dr. D recommends we (Secretors) have any grains and

starches

> only1-6 times a week times a week max, and Nonnies have them only 0-

3 times

> a week. Is that a low recomendation or what? I notice potatoes and

sweet

> potatoes aren't listed under starches. Don't ever beat yourself

consumption

> of anything. Just start any changes you wish to make with the new

day.

>

> RE: Ezekiel bread

>

>

> > Ezekiel is a neutral for Os according to Typebase 3, which I

checked

> today.

> > I see and others keep saying to avoid grains is best. Does

Dr.

> > D'Adamo ever say that same thing? I have not found him saying Os

should

> > totally eliminate the neutral grains. If D'Adamo were

recommending total

> > avoidance wouldn't he have put Ezekiel and sprouted wheat, for

example,

> > under the " avoid " category. Is the reason people on this list say

to avoid

> > all grains due to the glycemic index factor? Just trying to wrap

my brain

> > around all of this.

> >

> > I have been eating only 2 slices of an Ezekiel, spelt or sprouted

wheat

> > bread per day. Not too bad compared to what I used to eat for

regular

> wheat

> > products and not bad compared to how most of America eats so many

bread

> > products per day. So I am not beating myself up about my own

consumption

> but

> > am just curious....

> > Thanks,

> >

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In a message dated 4/7/2004 5:01:54 AM Pacific Standard Time,

cmmontano@... writes:

I have not found him saying Os should

totally eliminate the neutral grains.

He says in the first book that Os just don't tolerate grains well.

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In a message dated 4/7/2004 5:01:54 AM Pacific Standard Time,

cmmontano@... writes:

I have been eating only 2 slices of an Ezekiel, spelt or sprouted wheat

bread per day.

Think protein, meat, and fat. Think of grains as an occasional treat.

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We buy it from the health food stores frozen. Food for Life is the company that

makes ours also.

Here in the SE corner of Oklahoma, the regular grocery stores wouldn't sell

enough to carry it. This is a true small town area.

Ezekiel Bread

In California Ezekiel Bread comes from Food For Life Baking Company, PO Box

1434, Corona, CA 92878

1-800-797-5090 www.foodforlife.com and info@...

We buy it frozen and keep it that way until we open the loaf, then keep it

in the refrigerator. We have asked local stores to carry it and when they do

it becomes very popular.

Jim

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In a message dated 1/24/2005 6:39:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,

brownjc0@... writes:

In California Ezekiel Bread comes from Food For Life Baking Company

We get it frozen too but recently it has made me feel bad. I stopped using

it and wonder if they sneak ground, unsprouted wheat flour into it like they do

their pita bread.

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> Does anyone know of a place in the cities to buy

> Ezekiel Bread?

>

>Also at Whole Foods Market. Look in the freezer section.

>

> __________________________________________________

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Hello

>What kind of bread is Ezekiel? I visit the co-op almost bi-monthly

now. Been trying to get hubby to take more time to tour the stock with

me.

-Audrey

<snippet>

> The Wedge (on Lyndale in Mpls) carries it.

>

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Debra,  I have never had a problem with the Ezekiel bread and I've been eating

it for over two years.

The wheat, when sprouted, as it is in the EZB, is not supposed to cause us any

problems.  Perhaps it was the butter..????  Maureen

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From: Debra <mermaideeee@...>

Sent: Monday, December 1, 2008 9:56:37 AM

Subject: ezekiel bread

Have you been able to eat ezekiel bread? I just had ½ slice for the first

time today, toasted with some butter. About 20 minutes later, I felt

slightly sleepy. This could just be due to no significant amount of protein

with it.. I am hoping my problem is only with wheat and not with everything

else (gluten, yeast).

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Originally sprouted wheat was an avoid because the manufaturer doesn't

always make sure the regular ground wheat is completely cleaned before

they ground the sprouted. Ezekial isn't an avoid because there isn't a

chance of regular wheat being mixed with the sprouted.

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Yeah, I don't know. Something made me sleepy that day and the next day. I am

going to avoid it for awhile and then maybe test it again when I've been

wheat free for several months.

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

fire_crack59

Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:56 AM

Subject: Re: ezekiel bread

Originally sprouted wheat was an avoid because the manufaturer doesn't

always make sure the regular ground wheat is completely cleaned before

they ground the sprouted. Ezekial isn't an avoid because there isn't a

chance of regular wheat being mixed with the sprouted.

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That is correct, , and Essene bread is ok as well.

" A true friend is someone who thinks

you are a good egg

even though he knows

you are slightly cracked

From: fire_crack59 <salbud@...>

Subject: Re: ezekiel bread

Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 9:56 AM

Originally sprouted wheat was an avoid because the manufaturer doesn't

always make sure the regular ground wheat is completely cleaned before

they ground the sprouted. Ezekial isn't an avoid because there isn't a

chance of regular wheat being mixed with the sprouted.

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http://www.berlinnaturalbakery.com/

For anyone interested, this site that I sent earlier, has an Ezekial bread

(called Biblical bread) that's sprouted and they don't use wheat - at all -

for any of their breads. Everything is Spelt base.

http://www.berlinnaturalbakery.com/store.html - Their stuff is fantastic!

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 10:56 AM, fire_crack59 <salbud@...> wrote:

> Originally sprouted wheat was an avoid because the manufaturer doesn't

> always make sure the regular ground wheat is completely cleaned before

> they ground the sprouted. Ezekial isn't an avoid because there isn't a

> chance of regular wheat being mixed with the sprouted.

>

>

>

>

--

Cheers,

Kathy

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You may want to try their sprouted corn tortillas - makes a fine quesadilla,

especially good topped with avocado.

From: Rushing <lindas_organic_garden@...>

Subject: Ezekiel Bread

Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 4:35 AM

Hi folks,

 

I am confused here.  I love Ezekiel Bread and yes it is Sprouted Grain, however

it does have Wheat in it.  My sons teacher is unable to eat it because it has

wheat.  She has to eat Spelt Bread. 

Smyrna, TN

US Zone 6b

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Hi, I have not been able to read much lately, and realized I missed

the Ezekiel Bread. Could you give me the recipe or a link? Thanks so

much.

Phyllis

-- In , Rushing

<lindas_organic_garden@...> wrote:

>

> Hi folks,

>  

> I am confused here.  I love Ezekiel Bread and yes it is Sprouted

Grain, however it does have Wheat in it.  My sons teacher is unable to

eat it because it has wheat.  She has to eat Spelt Bread. 

>

>

> Smyrna, TN

> US Zone 6b

>

>

>

>

>

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The Ezekiel bread I referred to is what I purchase.  I hope to find a recipie

myself soon.

Smyrna, TN

US Zone 6b

>

> Hi folks,

>  

> I am confused here.  I love Ezekiel Bread and yes it is Sprouted

Grain, however it does have Wheat in it.  My sons teacher is unable to

eat it because it has wheat.  She has to eat Spelt Bread. 

>

>

> Smyrna, TN

> US Zone 6b

>

>

>

>

>

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Here are two links to recipes for Ezekiel bread... you might not like one of

them but here they are.... http://www.squidoo.com/ezekielbread  and

http://www.nobeliefs.com/washingtonnews/EzekielBread.htm

>

> Hi folks,

>  

> I am confused here.  I love Ezekiel Bread and yes it is Sprouted

Grain, however it does have Wheat in it.  My sons teacher is unable to

eat it because it has wheat.  She has to eat Spelt Bread. 

>

>

> Smyrna, TN

> US Zone 6b

>

>

>

>

>

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Thanks Mike I have printed  the 3 recipies that came with the first link.  As

for the second link, I am not sure that I believe the report.  I have never seen

either of the products on the store shelves, especialy the last one.  The

products are not listed on " Food for Lifes " web site.

Smyrna, TN

US Zone 6b

http://www.nobelief s.com/washington news/EzekielBrea d.htm

The Ezekiel bread I referred to is what I purchase.  I hope to find a recipie

myself soon.

Smyrna, TN

US Zone 6b

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The kind of sprouted wheat bread I am making perhaps is not the same as

ezekiel bread. Its ingredients are simply ground wheat sprouts and

whatever else you want to add such as chopped dates, sunflower seeds,

or spices. You could probably use other sprouts with it as well. It is

not a yeasted bread (that is why I want to make it - I have yeast

overgrowth issues that are agravated by breads) and it does not rise.

Alysia

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On 1/10/09, Alysia <alysiahumphries@...> wrote:

>

> The kind of sprouted wheat bread I am making perhaps is not the same as

> ezekiel bread. Its ingredients are simply ground wheat sprouts and

> whatever else you want to add such as chopped dates, sunflower seeds,

> or spices. You could probably use other sprouts with it as well. It is

> not a yeasted bread (that is why I want to make it - I have yeast

> overgrowth issues that are agravated by breads) and it does not rise.

That sounds a lot like the bread I am making. Do you bake yours at a

low temperature as well or at a regular baking temperature like 350 F?

Sparrow

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I am experimenting with the temperature but I don't go above 200 degrees as I

want to keep the enzymes from being killed. My last loaf was very wet and

wouldn't cook through, but I think that was due to not drying the sprouts enough

(I don't have a dehydrator). But I understand that this type of bread can be

cooked in the sun in the summer, so it doesn't require really high heat to cook.

That is another reason I would like to learn to do it - so that if there is ever

a time when I don't have a power source for cooking, I can still make bread with

just some wheat and water to sprout it with.

Alysia

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