Guest guest Posted April 7, 2004 Report Share Posted April 7, 2004 You'll notice if you read Live Right that even though Ezekiel Bread is a neutral, Dr. D recommends we (Secretors) have any grains and starches only1-6 times a week times a week max, and Nonnies have them only 0-3 times a week. Is that a low recomendation or what? I notice potatoes and sweet potatoes aren't listed under starches. Don't ever beat yourself consumption of anything. Just start any changes you wish to make with the new day. RE: Ezekiel bread > Ezekiel is a neutral for Os according to Typebase 3, which I checked today. > I see and others keep saying to avoid grains is best. Does Dr. > D'Adamo ever say that same thing? I have not found him saying Os should > totally eliminate the neutral grains. If D'Adamo were recommending total > avoidance wouldn't he have put Ezekiel and sprouted wheat, for example, > under the " avoid " category. Is the reason people on this list say to avoid > all grains due to the glycemic index factor? Just trying to wrap my brain > around all of this. > > I have been eating only 2 slices of an Ezekiel, spelt or sprouted wheat > bread per day. Not too bad compared to what I used to eat for regular wheat > products and not bad compared to how most of America eats so many bread > products per day. So I am not beating myself up about my own consumption but > am just curious.... > Thanks, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2004 Report Share Posted April 7, 2004 I believe I have read Heidi say in her column that Dr. D thinks that most Os would be better off without grains, but that he allowed them in the O diet in a very limited amount to try to make the diet more acceptable to more people. All grains are not listed as avoids because Dr. D does not consider them as a poison for Os, but that doesn't mean that Os should eat a lot of them for best health. LR4YT also says those with Rh- should reduce their grain consumption by one servig per week, so that would put Rh- secretors at 0-5 and Rh- non-secretors at 0-2. 0 means no grains. Dr. D clearly says that eating grains is not essential to Os health. Therefore, another way to look at it is that Os would be better off to eat less, shooting for the bottom end of the frequency range. Where as meats and veggies are very important to Os health so Os would be better off to eat them at a frequency at the top end of the range recommended. And remember that not all neutrals are the same. You would be better off eating a neutral meat, fish, veggie, or fruit then you would a neutral grain. I will tell you that it took me about 6 months to get to the point where I stopped substituting neutral grains for the avoid grains and instead just stopped eating grains every day. Now I don't know where I would put grains on my plate, or in my stomach, because it is already full of meat and veggies, along with plenty of olive oil! As you embrace the good stuff more and fill up on it you won't feel the need to add grains to your meals. Also it would help if you accept eating meat and veggies for breafast every day that way you won't be tempted to eat the standard type of grain based breafast. Sounds like you are doing well. Don (O- sec) > You'll notice if you read Live Right that even though Ezekiel Bread is a > neutral, Dr. D recommends we (Secretors) have any grains and starches > only1-6 times a week times a week max, and Nonnies have them only 0- 3 times > a week. Is that a low recomendation or what? I notice potatoes and sweet > potatoes aren't listed under starches. Don't ever beat yourself consumption > of anything. Just start any changes you wish to make with the new day. > > RE: Ezekiel bread > > > > Ezekiel is a neutral for Os according to Typebase 3, which I checked > today. > > I see and others keep saying to avoid grains is best. Does Dr. > > D'Adamo ever say that same thing? I have not found him saying Os should > > totally eliminate the neutral grains. If D'Adamo were recommending total > > avoidance wouldn't he have put Ezekiel and sprouted wheat, for example, > > under the " avoid " category. Is the reason people on this list say to avoid > > all grains due to the glycemic index factor? Just trying to wrap my brain > > around all of this. > > > > I have been eating only 2 slices of an Ezekiel, spelt or sprouted wheat > > bread per day. Not too bad compared to what I used to eat for regular > wheat > > products and not bad compared to how most of America eats so many bread > > products per day. So I am not beating myself up about my own consumption > but > > am just curious.... > > Thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2004 Report Share Posted April 7, 2004 In a message dated 4/7/2004 5:01:54 AM Pacific Standard Time, cmmontano@... writes: I have not found him saying Os should totally eliminate the neutral grains. He says in the first book that Os just don't tolerate grains well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2004 Report Share Posted April 7, 2004 In a message dated 4/7/2004 5:01:54 AM Pacific Standard Time, cmmontano@... writes: I have been eating only 2 slices of an Ezekiel, spelt or sprouted wheat bread per day. Think protein, meat, and fat. Think of grains as an occasional treat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 We buy it from the health food stores frozen. Food for Life is the company that makes ours also. Here in the SE corner of Oklahoma, the regular grocery stores wouldn't sell enough to carry it. This is a true small town area. Ezekiel Bread In California Ezekiel Bread comes from Food For Life Baking Company, PO Box 1434, Corona, CA 92878 1-800-797-5090 www.foodforlife.com and info@... We buy it frozen and keep it that way until we open the loaf, then keep it in the refrigerator. We have asked local stores to carry it and when they do it becomes very popular. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 In a message dated 1/24/2005 6:39:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, brownjc0@... writes: In California Ezekiel Bread comes from Food For Life Baking Company We get it frozen too but recently it has made me feel bad. I stopped using it and wonder if they sneak ground, unsprouted wheat flour into it like they do their pita bread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 The Wedge (on Lyndale in Mpls) carries it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 > Does anyone know of a place in the cities to buy > Ezekiel Bread? > >Also at Whole Foods Market. Look in the freezer section. > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 Hello >What kind of bread is Ezekiel? I visit the co-op almost bi-monthly now. Been trying to get hubby to take more time to tour the stock with me. -Audrey <snippet> > The Wedge (on Lyndale in Mpls) carries it. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 >What kind of bread is Ezekiel? Ezekiel bread is made of SPROUTED grains. Many types of grains are sprouted, then dried and ground into flour. --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 Most of the Cub and Rainbow stores carry it. It's in the freezer, but a different place in each store, so you have to look or ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 Debra, I have never had a problem with the Ezekiel bread and I've been eating it for over two years. The wheat, when sprouted, as it is in the EZB, is not supposed to cause us any problems. Perhaps it was the butter..???? Maureen ________________________________ From: Debra <mermaideeee@...> Sent: Monday, December 1, 2008 9:56:37 AM Subject: ezekiel bread Have you been able to eat ezekiel bread? I just had ½ slice for the first time today, toasted with some butter. About 20 minutes later, I felt slightly sleepy. This could just be due to no significant amount of protein with it.. I am hoping my problem is only with wheat and not with everything else (gluten, yeast). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Originally sprouted wheat was an avoid because the manufaturer doesn't always make sure the regular ground wheat is completely cleaned before they ground the sprouted. Ezekial isn't an avoid because there isn't a chance of regular wheat being mixed with the sprouted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Yeah, I don't know. Something made me sleepy that day and the next day. I am going to avoid it for awhile and then maybe test it again when I've been wheat free for several months. _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of fire_crack59 Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:56 AM Subject: Re: ezekiel bread Originally sprouted wheat was an avoid because the manufaturer doesn't always make sure the regular ground wheat is completely cleaned before they ground the sprouted. Ezekial isn't an avoid because there isn't a chance of regular wheat being mixed with the sprouted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 That is correct, , and Essene bread is ok as well. " A true friend is someone who thinks you are a good egg even though he knows you are slightly cracked From: fire_crack59 <salbud@...> Subject: Re: ezekiel bread Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 9:56 AM Originally sprouted wheat was an avoid because the manufaturer doesn't always make sure the regular ground wheat is completely cleaned before they ground the sprouted. Ezekial isn't an avoid because there isn't a chance of regular wheat being mixed with the sprouted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 http://www.berlinnaturalbakery.com/ For anyone interested, this site that I sent earlier, has an Ezekial bread (called Biblical bread) that's sprouted and they don't use wheat - at all - for any of their breads. Everything is Spelt base. http://www.berlinnaturalbakery.com/store.html - Their stuff is fantastic! On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 10:56 AM, fire_crack59 <salbud@...> wrote: > Originally sprouted wheat was an avoid because the manufaturer doesn't > always make sure the regular ground wheat is completely cleaned before > they ground the sprouted. Ezekial isn't an avoid because there isn't a > chance of regular wheat being mixed with the sprouted. > > > > -- Cheers, Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 You may want to try their sprouted corn tortillas - makes a fine quesadilla, especially good topped with avocado. From: Rushing <lindas_organic_garden@...> Subject: Ezekiel Bread Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 4:35 AM Hi folks,  I am confused here. I love Ezekiel Bread and yes it is Sprouted Grain, however it does have Wheat in it. My sons teacher is unable to eat it because it has wheat. She has to eat Spelt Bread. Smyrna, TN US Zone 6b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 Hi, I have not been able to read much lately, and realized I missed the Ezekiel Bread. Could you give me the recipe or a link? Thanks so much. Phyllis -- In , Rushing <lindas_organic_garden@...> wrote: > > Hi folks, >  > I am confused here. I love Ezekiel Bread and yes it is Sprouted Grain, however it does have Wheat in it. My sons teacher is unable to eat it because it has wheat. She has to eat Spelt Bread. > > > Smyrna, TN > US Zone 6b > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 The Ezekiel bread I referred to is what I purchase. I hope to find a recipie myself soon. Smyrna, TN US Zone 6b > > Hi folks, >  > I am confused here. I love Ezekiel Bread and yes it is Sprouted Grain, however it does have Wheat in it. My sons teacher is unable to eat it because it has wheat. She has to eat Spelt Bread. > > > Smyrna, TN > US Zone 6b > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 Here are two links to recipes for Ezekiel bread... you might not like one of them but here they are.... http://www.squidoo.com/ezekielbread and http://www.nobeliefs.com/washingtonnews/EzekielBread.htm > > Hi folks, >  > I am confused here. I love Ezekiel Bread and yes it is Sprouted Grain, however it does have Wheat in it. My sons teacher is unable to eat it because it has wheat. She has to eat Spelt Bread. > > > Smyrna, TN > US Zone 6b > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 On 1/9/09, Rushing <lindas_organic_garden@...> wrote: > > The Ezekiel bread I referred to is what I purchase. I hope to > find a recipie myself soon. There are a whole bunch of recipes online to experiment with until you find one you like: http://tinyurl.com/9vll2s Sparrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Thanks Mike I have printed the 3 recipies that came with the first link. As for the second link, I am not sure that I believe the report. I have never seen either of the products on the store shelves, especialy the last one. The products are not listed on " Food for Lifes " web site. Smyrna, TN US Zone 6b http://www.nobelief s.com/washington news/EzekielBrea d.htm The Ezekiel bread I referred to is what I purchase. I hope to find a recipie myself soon. Smyrna, TN US Zone 6b Recent Activity  3 New MembersVisit Your Group Drive Traffic Sponsored Search can help increase your site traffic. Special K ChallengeJoin others who are losing pounds. Find helpful tips for Moderators on the Groups team blog. ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 The kind of sprouted wheat bread I am making perhaps is not the same as ezekiel bread. Its ingredients are simply ground wheat sprouts and whatever else you want to add such as chopped dates, sunflower seeds, or spices. You could probably use other sprouts with it as well. It is not a yeasted bread (that is why I want to make it - I have yeast overgrowth issues that are agravated by breads) and it does not rise. Alysia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 On 1/10/09, Alysia <alysiahumphries@...> wrote: > > The kind of sprouted wheat bread I am making perhaps is not the same as > ezekiel bread. Its ingredients are simply ground wheat sprouts and > whatever else you want to add such as chopped dates, sunflower seeds, > or spices. You could probably use other sprouts with it as well. It is > not a yeasted bread (that is why I want to make it - I have yeast > overgrowth issues that are agravated by breads) and it does not rise. That sounds a lot like the bread I am making. Do you bake yours at a low temperature as well or at a regular baking temperature like 350 F? Sparrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 I am experimenting with the temperature but I don't go above 200 degrees as I want to keep the enzymes from being killed. My last loaf was very wet and wouldn't cook through, but I think that was due to not drying the sprouts enough (I don't have a dehydrator). But I understand that this type of bread can be cooked in the sun in the summer, so it doesn't require really high heat to cook. That is another reason I would like to learn to do it - so that if there is ever a time when I don't have a power source for cooking, I can still make bread with just some wheat and water to sprout it with. Alysia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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