Guest guest Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 In a message dated 2/27/03 5:42:19 PM Alaskan Standard Time, pamela@... writes: > It truly does harm and kill cells. I used peroxide on some non-healing > ulcerated areas I had on my shins several years ago, and the doctor FREAKED > How is it that they can have directions on the bottle for using it as a mouth wash? Sage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 In a message dated 2/27/03 5:43:56 PM Alaskan Standard Time, anna4247@... writes: > Can it be safely and reasonable used in some sort of balm for lightening dark skin patches? Sage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 Hi, Judy! It truly does harm and kill cells. I used peroxide on some non-healing ulcerated areas I had on my shins several years ago, and the doctor FREAKED when I mentioned that's what I had been using to disinfect. (This was a long time ago, before I knew enough to have used tea tree oil or one of the many other natural disinfectant or healing agents.) She said that hospitals don't stock peroxide anymore, and that in their office they only used it disinfect countertops. She said it had a lot in common with bleach, although I'd have to look up what the chemical structure is for each. She asked me if I thought it would be a good idea to pour straight bleach on the sores. My sores healed MUCH faster once I quit using the peroxide. I wound up with a staph infection in spite of it, so it didn't do what I had hoped it would. This happened a long time ago. I was working in with families in Mexico in an area that left a little to be desired in the area of cleanliness. Some of my families lived in abandoned school buses ... and a few had 8 or 9 kids!!!! As far as I'm concerned now, if you have indoor plumbing and can drink your water straight out of the tap, you have NOTHING to complain about! Remind me of that the next time I grumble!! HTH pamela Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 --- Hydrogen Peroxide is a lighterner. What they use to color hair and lighten skin. Also used to clarify pools (Baquicil) in place of chlorine. Did you ever get any of this on your skin? I am a hairdresser and do all the time. Not so nice on the hands. I would think you would have many people sensitive to this in your lotion. In , Earthfinds <earthfinds@y...> wrote: > Pam, > Tell us about the peroxide. We want to know. I'm > sure there are listmembers that use it and we " need " > to know why not to! > > Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 With that said I think we all can feel blessed... ANna > This happened a long time ago. I was working in with families in Mexico in an area that left a little to be desired in the area of cleanliness. Some of my families lived in abandoned school buses ... and a few had 8 or 9 kids!!!! As far as I'm concerned now, if you have indoor plumbing and can drink your water straight out of the tap, you have NOTHING to complain about! Remind me of that the next time I grumble!! HTH > > pamela > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 I know hydrogen Peroxide works great at getting blood stains off of fabric, carpet.... Never thougth about it, but it does kind of just eat up the blood stain, guess it would do that on your body too. Hmmm, thanks for sharing this. Kay, Stoli and Queso Selling soap for weimaraner rescue <A HREF= " http://www.weim.net/stoli/ " >Soap for hope</A> Got Tickets???? National Weim Quilt Raffle <A HREF= " www.weim.net/weimquilt/ " >www.weim.net/weimquilt/</A> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 Hi all, haven't talk to some of you in a while. I was reading what you'll were saying about peroxide. I use peroxide almost everyday as a mouth wash. Can someone tell me what some of the danger are in using it in a mouth wash form. I have Sarcoidosis which affect my breathing a lot like asthma does. After hearing this Im afraid that it might have something to do with my extra shortness of breath. The next time I go to my doctor I will make that know to him and see what he has to say about it. This information may help him to find another medication for me. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 ---A couple of years ago while a doctor was working on my foot (I had an ingrown toenail that was getting a little infected) I told him I was using hydrogen peroxide to keep it from getting infected. Now I know we all grew up where our mothers put it on every cut and scratch we got to clean it out and prevent infection. Well he told me that hospitals dont use it like that anymore, if they do, its diluted with water, same with getting your ears pierced. Those bottles have water also if you look at them. See how it bubbles up when you put it on, well he said a few years ago a girl had her belly button pierced and used hydrogen peroxide to keep it clean and one of those bubbles got into her bloodstream and caused an anurism. (sp) Iknow is sounds far out, but I guess now the dilute it. As for being safe and reasonable in a balm for lightening dark patches... Lets just say I would do it on myself but I wouldnt take a chance on selling it to anyone. But that is just my personal opinion. I have taken a q tip with a little peroxide and put it straight on my dark spots, and it sort of spread a littl around the spot and even though it faded the dark spot, it left a white ring... not sure which is worse. In , Yaaruln@a... wrote: > In a message dated 2/27/03 5:43:56 PM Alaskan Standard Time, > anna4247@y... writes: > > > > > > Can it be safely and reasonable used in some sort of balm for lightening dark > skin patches? > > Sage > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 My sil had an open sore on her leg and we had always used hydrogen peroxide to wah out wounds. She kept doing this and it would not heal. She finally went to the Dr and he told her to quit using the hydrogen peroxide for it was killing the new skin. She did and it healed but it left a huge big hole that finally scarred over. Glitz Re: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide In a message dated 2/27/03 5:43:56 PM Alaskan Standard Time, anna4247@... writes: > Can it be safely and reasonable used in some sort of balm for lightening dark skin patches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 In a message dated 2/28/03 10:02:53 AM Alaskan Standard Time, rainman@... writes: > This was probly more then you wanted to know. LOL > :-) The curious among us always want to know. Farm animal vet techniques are not very dainty, are they? Sage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 I had a similar experience with h. peroxide. I think peroxide is a very harsh chemical to use on the skin. Lemon juice is a very effective lightener. Why not experiment with adding it at the cooling stage of a lotion or cream? Have fun! pamela Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 Don't they tell you to dilute it when using it as a mouthwash? If not, my assumption is that it's diluted by the saliva. Additionally, when used as a mouthwash (which I would never do), it's swished around enough that it does not have continual contact with any one spot of tissue. LOL ... I'm not a doctor ... and I don't play one TV .... those are only assumptions. I'd ask your doctor if you're curious about it. Have a great day! pamela On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 07:56:14 -0800 (PST), Yaaruln@... wrote: In a message dated 2/27/03 5:42:19 PM Alaskan Standard Time, pamela@... writes: > It truly does harm and kill cells. I used peroxide on some non-healing > ulcerated areas I had on my shins several years ago, and the doctor FREAKED > How is it that they can have directions on the bottle for using it as a mouth wash? Sage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 I use food grade Hydrogen Peroxide and always dilute it with water. I wouldn't use it on my skin or in my products without diluting. Radha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 I would imagine it does have some properties needed for healing & /or antiseptics. As does Bleach. Doctors use a Bleach (25% I think) solution on wounds that have dificulty healing. Had a calf once that a cougar had jumped on its back and left some bad claw marks, course they got infected. Antibiotics just didn't cut it. and the infection tunneled from one side of his back to the other. I stuck the hose in the wound full blast to help clean it out and then with a syringe put in the bleach solution. Did this twice a day and Within a week the wound started shrinking. Worked well. He healed up great. This was probly more then you wanted to know. LOL Betty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 Pamela wrote: > Don't they tell you to dilute it when using it as a > mouthwash? If not, my assumption is that it's diluted > by the saliva. Additionally, when used as a mouthwash > (which I would never do), it's swished around enough > that it does not have continual contact with any one > spot of tissue. " Mouthwash: Use 3% hydrogen peroxide for germicidal mouthwash and throat gargle. While cleansing the mouth and throat, it destroys the bad bacteria. It also helps to clear up periodontal disease. Watch how white your teeth become! " See: http://www.h2o2-4u.com/house.html Radha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2003 Report Share Posted March 1, 2003 Dainty? Nope! but they work! But you know I never could come anywhere near that calf with a garden hose in my hand after that. :-) Betty :-) The curious among us always want to know. Farm animal vet techniques are not very dainty, are they? Sage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 Hey your medic soap box is okay by me... Personally I thought the doctor was a little nuts myself, so i asked around and no one ever heard of it, but a few people did tell me that they mix it with water in the hospitals now and same with the solution when you get your ears pierced. I felt the same way you did, I cant tell you how many times my mother poured it over our cuts growing up and we survived... even though it burned like.... > > I don't know if I would buy the kid with the navel ring dying from the > peroxide. I'm sure if they absorbed a large enough 02 bubble it could > happen. But I would think if that were so likely then you would have had a > lot more deaths over the years with the way peroxide's been used. I don't > know how many booboos I got hydrogen peroxide dumped on then covered in > " monkey's blood " . Your > tax dollars and phone bills (in most areas) pay for them. There is one > number now that will take your call to your local center (like when you dial > 911) Call 1-800-222-1222 You can talk to your dr but sadly not all drs are > up to date on a lot of things. But your Poison Center should be and should > gladly answer all your questions. > > Okay okay...I'm getting off my medic soap box. > > ~^~^~Dawn~^~^~ > The Liberty Hill Soap Haus > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2003 Report Share Posted October 20, 2003 Dear Mikhail, It is true. 8 oz of 35% hydrogen peroxide in a tub of hot water, soak 30 minutes. Best of health! Dr. Saul Pressman ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----Original Message Follows---- From: " MIKHAIL j cannon " <mikhailcannon@...> Reply-oxyplus oxyplus Subject: Re: [hydrogen peroxide Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:08:24 -0400 hello , i am looking into using hydrogen peroxide in my bath water, i am informed that it would help oxygenate my blood. is this true and if so can anyone tell me how much i should use. thankyou mikhailx ---- cheap ozone > Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 19:23:45 -0400 > > I am thinking about using ozoneated water in my night breathing > machines > heated > humidifier after reading here that it might be the better source of > O2. I will not be able to buy one of the fancy machines so I am > thinking of using one made for aquariums. I believe they are less > expensive. One that I lived with had an in-line cotton filled filter. > Changing the filter medium frequently should keep the air supply > clean. I would use sterilized cotton instead of aquarium grade for > better sterility. I believe I can build a gas trap that would allow > only the ozonized gas to enter the water. This water is what I > propose to use in the humidifier. I have surgically safe water > shipped in regularly so this would be my water source. If I maintain > the sterility of the water during the process, it should be safe. The > water and the bipap machine are provided to me through the Veterans > Administration. I am sure they would not provide an ozonizer because > they do not believe I need the extra oxygen. I think I do. How many > disagree with this plan? > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find > here are for information and research purposes only. We are people > sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you > do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common > sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By > joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR > yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a > medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care > provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the > following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON > & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal > mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2003 Report Share Posted October 20, 2003 Thats great, thanks Saul. How often can i do that, is once a day too much. kind regards, Mikhail -- ---- cheap ozone > Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 19:23:45 -0400 > > I am thinking about using ozoneated water in my night breathing > machines > heated > humidifier after reading here that it might be the better source of > O2. I will not be able to buy one of the fancy machines so I am > thinking of using one made for aquariums. I believe they are less > expensive. One that I lived with had an in-line cotton filled filter. > Changing the filter medium frequently should keep the air supply > clean. I would use sterilized cotton instead of aquarium grade for > better sterility. I believe I can build a gas trap that would allow > only the ozonized gas to enter the water. This water is what I > propose to use in the humidifier. I have surgically safe water > shipped in regularly so this would be my water source. If I maintain > the sterility of the water during the process, it should be safe. The > water and the bipap machine are provided to me through the Veterans > Administration. I am sure they would not provide an ozonizer because > they do not believe I need the extra oxygen. I think I do. How many > disagree with this plan? > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find > here are for information and research purposes only. We are people > sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you > do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common > sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By > joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR > yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a > medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care > provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the > following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON > & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal > mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2004 Report Share Posted August 19, 2004 HI, We have tried everything for BReana's sores. What works best for her is swabs dipped in hydrogen peroxide. We dilute it a little bit with water. She tells us it only hurts a little bit.....then couple minutes later she says 'booboo's better!' When bad we do this every 2 hours. They heal much quicker than the used to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2004 Report Share Posted August 19, 2004 HI, We have tried everything for BReana's sores. What works best for her is swabs dipped in hydrogen peroxide. We dilute it a little bit with water. She tells us it only hurts a little bit.....then couple minutes later she says 'booboo's better!' When bad we do this every 2 hours. They heal much quicker than the used to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2004 Report Share Posted August 19, 2004 Thanks for the tips- we're currently down to one sore. I am going to try dabbing a qtip in hydrogen peroxide for the next one, as that is probably the one thing I haven't tried. Drew's still not sleeping well, but did make it until 4:30 the other night in his own bed. However, we are also going to be moving in a few weeks, so maybe that has something to do with the not sleeping and the canker sores, maybe they are worse these past 6 weeks because of stress? On the good side, we haven't had a fever in 6 weeks. Looking back at my records, last year around late summer/early fall his episodes spread for a few months. Thanks everyone again- what would I do without this group? Even if it's just someone to listen and understand... mom to Drew, age 2 1/2 Coventry RI -- In , " " <gt4990@c...> wrote: > HI, > We have tried everything for BReana's sores. What works best for her is swabs dipped in hydrogen peroxide. We dilute it a little bit with water. She tells us it only hurts a little bit.....then couple minutes later she says 'booboo's better!' When bad we do this every 2 hours. They heal much quicker than the used to. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2004 Report Share Posted August 19, 2004 Thanks for the tips- we're currently down to one sore. I am going to try dabbing a qtip in hydrogen peroxide for the next one, as that is probably the one thing I haven't tried. Drew's still not sleeping well, but did make it until 4:30 the other night in his own bed. However, we are also going to be moving in a few weeks, so maybe that has something to do with the not sleeping and the canker sores, maybe they are worse these past 6 weeks because of stress? On the good side, we haven't had a fever in 6 weeks. Looking back at my records, last year around late summer/early fall his episodes spread for a few months. Thanks everyone again- what would I do without this group? Even if it's just someone to listen and understand... mom to Drew, age 2 1/2 Coventry RI -- In , " " <gt4990@c...> wrote: > HI, > We have tried everything for BReana's sores. What works best for her is swabs dipped in hydrogen peroxide. We dilute it a little bit with water. She tells us it only hurts a little bit.....then couple minutes later she says 'booboo's better!' When bad we do this every 2 hours. They heal much quicker than the used to. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 Dear Nenah, Hydrogen peroxide is lower in oxidative energy than ozone. It does break partly into H2O and O1, but it also breaks into H+ and OH- and O1. The H+ is what causes the bad taste and the nausea. It would be a wonderful thing if the only breakdown products of H2O2 were H2O and O1. Unfortunately, it ain't so. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ---------- ----Original Message Follows---- From: " Nenah Sylver " <nenah@...> Reply-oxyplus <oxyplus > Subject: Re: Re: O4 rubbish Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 07:07:26 -0400 RE: Re: O4 rubbish < But we know from the clinical trials that oxygen is virtually useless as therapy. Unless you electrify it (ozone) or pressurize it (hyperbaric), oxygen therapy per se is of almost no value. Only a person with very poor lung function gets any benefit from breathing 100% oxygen alone. And even they do not get better, they are lucky to hold their own. Thousands of clinical trials over the last 60 years have proven over and over again that oxygen alone does not have the power to cure disease. The control group is given oxygen while the tested group gets ozone. Invariably the reported results are 85 - 99% benefit for the ozone group; and no change for the oxygen group. It is the ENERGY that is provided (either from electricity in ozone; or pressurization in hyperbaric) that makes the difference. And the electricity approach (ozone) is the more powerful of the two. > Saul, Where, then, does hydrogen peroxide fit into all this? I'm assuming that since the H2O2 breaks down into H2O (water) and O1, that's similar to an ozone reaction. Could you please elaborate on this? Thanks. Nenah _________________________________________________________________ MSN® Calendar keeps you organized and takes the effort out of scheduling get-togethers. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca & page=byoa/prem & xAPID=1994 & DI=1034 & SU=http://\ hotmail.com/enca & HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 Hi all, Recently I read on the oralperoxide list how a man cured himself of cfids/fibromyalgia with nothing more than 35% food grade H202. He emailed me privately giving me more details. Although, he was not at deaths door, he had been very sick for 10 years. The bad taste of the H202 made him stop and start and ultimately took 9 months to work up to the recommended 25 drops at which time he stopped and did not have any symtoms for 4 or 5 (can't remember which now) years. He is just now coming down with it again and started back up on the H202. I was majorly impressed, and so I, too, am now doing the H202 protocol along with ozone. I'm up to 6 drops 3 times a day. I always loved what the ozone saunas did for me as far as energy and a since of well-being, but I have had trouble with intense rashing. I am now only doing the sauna every 4 or 5 days for that very reason. On the day I do a sauna it always turns out to be a very good day energy wise. Now since I've been doing the H202, I am getting that same enegry without the rash. It seems to be a nice alternative to ozone alone. And for the bad taste it was recommended to drink some lemon with it. So far I can tolerate the taste but might have to add the lemon when I get to higher dosages. I can't stress how nice it is to have some energy. I am now walking 2 and 1/2 miles 5 days a week. I do have to spit that up, tho, and do 1 1/4 in the morning and the same in the evening. I am also taking an interest in some much needed housework that I've put off for years. I am also noticing some not so nice symptom...dieoff? I will get very tired and sleepy for about an hour after taking the mid day dose. I don't notice that in the a.m. or p.m jut mid day. fwiw, gail > Dear Nenah, > > Hydrogen peroxide is lower in oxidative energy than ozone. > It does break partly into H2O and O1, but it also breaks into > H+ and OH- and O1. The H+ is what causes the bad taste > and the nausea. It would be a wonderful thing if the only > breakdown products of H2O2 were H2O and O1. Unfortunately, > it ain't so. > > Best of Health! > Dr. Saul Pressman > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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