Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 > Hi all, > > Recently I read on the oralperoxide list how a man cured himself of > cfids/fibromyalgia with nothing more than 35% food grade H202. He > emailed me privately giving me more details. Although, he was not at > deaths door, he had been very sick for 10 years. The bad taste of > the H202 made him stop and start and ultimately took 9 months to work > up to the recommended 25 drops at which time he stopped and did not > have any symtoms for 4 or 5 (can't remember which now) years. He is > just now coming down with it again and started back up on the H202. > I was majorly impressed, and so I, too, am now doing the H202 > protocol along with ozone. I'm up to 6 drops 3 times a day. > > I always loved what the ozone saunas did for me as far as energy and > a since of well-being, but I have had trouble with intense rashing. > I am now only doing the sauna every 4 or 5 days for that very > reason. On the day I do a sauna it always turns out to be a very > good day energy wise. Now since I've been doing the H202, I am > getting that same enegry without the rash. It seems to be a nice > alternative to ozone alone. And for the bad taste it was recommended > to drink some lemon with it. So far I can tolerate the taste but > might have to add the lemon when I get to higher dosages. > > I can't stress how nice it is to have some energy. I am now walking > 2 and 1/2 miles 5 days a week. I do have to spit that up, tho, and > do 1 1/4 in the morning and the same in the evening. I am also > taking an interest in some much needed housework that I've put off > for years. > > I am also noticing some not so nice symptom...dieoff? I will get > very tired and sleepy for about an hour after taking the mid day > dose. I don't notice that in the a.m. or p.m jut mid day. > > fwiw, > > gail <SNIP> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gail, Hi! I'm 61 and I've been working with SERIOUSLY-ILL for the past 10+ years now and have used and worked with People, using Activated Charcoal Powder in the form of Charcoal Slurry (1 tsp./8 oz. pure water) for almost 30 years now. Anyhow, if you drink from 5-8 Glasses of Charcoal Slurry per Day, you won't have ANY Herxheimer/Dieoff Reactions! The Activated Charcoal will ADSORB (efficient electrical action, not absorb - inefficent mechanical action) ANY Toxins, Drugs, Chemicals, Wastes and Dead Pathogens from the Bloodstream!! http://healingtools.tripod.com/char3.html http://healingtools.tripod.com/char6.html Your NEED to drink the Charcoal Slurry at least 1 hr. apart from ANY type of Oxygen Therapy/Therapies, since Carbon (charcoal) and Oxygen (ozone, H2O2, ...) have an OPPOSITE Electrical Charge. Also if you are taking ANY Drug(s), you'll NEED to drink the Charcoal Slurry 1 hr. apart from it/them. " THANKS " for your post! Tom/Psa. 33:12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 -Tom, Bless your heart. I'm going to give them a call Monday and order some. Do you know if you need to take it an hour before/after taking vitamins also. Thanks, gail -- In oxyplus , " Tom Harrelson " <tharrels1@y...> wrote: > > Gail, ><snip> > Your NEED to drink the Charcoal Slurry at least 1 hr. apart from ANY > type of Oxygen Therapy/Therapies, since Carbon (charcoal) and Oxygen > (ozone, H2O2, ...) have an OPPOSITE Electrical Charge. Also if you > are taking ANY Drug(s), you'll NEED to drink the Charcoal Slurry 1 > hr. apart from it/them. > > " THANKS " for your post! > > Tom/Psa. 33:12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 > -Tom, Bless your heart. I'm going to give them a call Monday and > order some. Do you know if you need to take it an hour before/after > taking vitamins also. Thanks, gail <SNIP> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hi again, Gail! You probably don't know, and MANY other People don't know either, that just about EVERY Vitamin/Mineral Supplement on the Market, including those sold in the Health Food Store and even those, which claim to be ALL Natural have SYNTHETIC Vitamins and INORGANIC Minerals!! I recommend people take Dr. Schulze's SuperFood, which you can order from his American Botanical Pharmacy (800/437-2362). http://healingtools.tripod.com/superfood1.html http://healingtools.tripod.com/superfood2.html Anyhow, in answer to your Question, please take your Vitamin/Mineral Supplement(s) 1 hr. before drinking Charcoal Slurry. " THANKS " for your KIND Words! Tom/Psa. 33:12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2004 Report Share Posted August 29, 2004 >> -Tom, Bless your heart. I'm going to give them a call Monday and >> order some. Do you know if you need to take it an hour >> before/after taking vitamins also. Thanks, gail > Hi again, Gail! You probably don't know, and MANY other People don't > know either, that just about EVERY Vitamin/Mineral Supplement on the > Market, including those sold in the Health Food Store and even those, > which claim to be ALL Natural have SYNTHETIC Vitamins and INORGANIC > Minerals!! I recommend people take Dr. Schulze's SuperFood, which > you can order from his American Botanical Pharmacy (800/437-2362). Funny, this is the one product of his that I *don't* like - not because it isn't good, but because it is *so* difficult t mix with water. I *really* like the raw food powder from the raw food gurus over at www.rawfood.com - it is called 'Nature's First Food'. I buy it by the case (12 jars) to get the 40% discount, which comes out to about $37 a jar including shipping. > Anyhow, in answer to your Question, please take your Vitamin/Mineral > Supplement(s) 1 hr. before drinking Charcoal Slurry. Tom, just to be precise... are you saying that drinking the slurry right before or after an ozone steam sauna would reduce the effectiveness of the sauna? I wouldn't think so, since the charcoal is inside the stomach and intestines, and the ozone slowly works its way in through the skin - just doesn't seem to me like they would 'interact' much, if at all. I definitely agree about the time between taking anything internally, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2004 Report Share Posted August 29, 2004 , Hi! I've been working with People doing Charcoal Therapy for almost 30 years, who are doing various other Therapies and I've found that you NEED to KEEP at least 1/2 hr. separation between MOST Therapies and 1 hr., when doing Oxygen Therapies and also if and when taking Drugs, SYNTHETIC Vitamins and/or INORGANIC Minerals. You NEED to drink Activated Charcoal Powder Slurry at least 1 hr. apart from ANY type of Oxygen Therapy/Therapies, since Carbon (charcoal) and Oxygen (H2O2, ozone, ...) have an OPPOSITE Electrical Charge from each other. Please let me know, if you have PROOF for a LESSER Time Period for an Ozone Sauna. " THANKS " for your post! Tom/Psa. 33:12. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> -Tom, Bless your heart. I'm going to give them a call Monday and > >> order some. Do you know if you need to take it an hour > >> before/after taking vitamins also. Thanks, gail > > > Hi again, Gail! You probably don't know, and MANY other People don't > > know either, that just about EVERY Vitamin/Mineral Supplement on the > > Market, including those sold in the Health Food Store and even those, > > which claim to be ALL Natural have SYNTHETIC Vitamins and INORGANIC > > Minerals!! I recommend people take Dr. Schulze's SuperFood, which > > you can order from his American Botanical Pharmacy (800/437-2362). > > Funny, this is the one product of his that I *don't* like - not because > it isn't good, but because it is *so* difficult t mix with water. > > I *really* like the raw food powder from the raw food gurus over at > www.rawfood.com - it is called 'Nature's First Food'. I buy it by the > case (12 jars) to get the 40% discount, which comes out to about $37 a > jar including shipping. > > > Anyhow, in answer to your Question, please take your Vitamin/Mineral > > Supplement(s) 1 hr. before drinking Charcoal Slurry. > > Tom, just to be precise... are you saying that drinking the slurry right > before or after an ozone steam sauna would reduce the effectiveness of > the sauna? I wouldn't think so, since the charcoal is inside the stomach > and intestines, and the ozone slowly works its way in through the skin - > just doesn't seem to me like they would 'interact' much, if at all. I > definitely agree about the time between taking anything internally, though. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2004 Report Share Posted August 30, 2004 Hi . I went to the site and did a search for Natures First Food and nothing came up. Do you have a direct link? All I saw was Pure Synergy, when I went down through the Organic food list. I stopped at page 110. Thanks Donna http://www.excellentthings.com > > > I *really* like the raw food powder from the raw food gurus over at > www.rawfood.com - it is called 'Nature's First Food'. I buy it by the > case (12 jars) to get the 40% discount, which comes out to about $37 a > jar including shipping. > <http://www.nod32.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2004 Report Share Posted September 25, 2004 Dear Craig, For internal use, the recommendation is 1 drop of 35% hydrogen peroxide in a glass of water for the first day. In each subsequent day, a drop is added, until you are taking 36 drops per glass by the 36th day. Then you maintain at that level. Personally, I could never get past 12 drops a day. It is much easier to add it to bath water. Put in 8 oz of 35% to a tubful and soak for 30 minutes. It is a bit hard on the chromed drain. If you read through the archives you will see a lot of testimonials from people on the list over the last 6 years. Best of health! Dr. Saul Pressman --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ---- ----Original Message Follows---- From: Craig Garfinkel <cdgarfinkel@...> Reply-oxyplus oxyplus Subject: RE: Ozone for autism Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 07:43:28 -0700 (PDT) Hi Dr. Pressman, What is the appropriate dosage for taking hydrogen peroxide orally? Can you add it to a bath instead of taking it orally? What results are people on this list seeing from the various oxygen therapies? Thanks, Craig --- Saul Pressman <spressman@...> wrote: > Dear Craig, > > You have to make ozonated water yourself, and that > requires buying an ozone > generator. > > CLO2 drops are chlorine + oxygen. Oxygen good; > chlorine bad. No comparison > to > ozonated water. > > If you want to go the least expensive oral route, > you could try hydrogen > peroxide, > although it tastes nasty. > > I will email you a copy of my book The Story of > Ozone so you can get up to > speed on it. > > Best of Health! > Dr. Saul Pressman > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: Craig Garfinkel <cdgarfinkel@...> > Reply-oxyplus > oxyplus > Subject: RE: Ozone for autism > Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:27:56 -0700 (PDT) > > Hi Dr. Pressman, > > Appreciate the response. Where does one find > ozonated > water? It seems like a simple way to start. What > type of healing properties would ozonated water > have? > I imagine it's not as strong as some of the other > methods you mention. I just purchased a whole house > water filter and a reverse osmosis filtration system > for the kitchen sink. > > Are you familiar with CLO2 - liquid oxygen drops? > Someone I know recommended starting with that? How > does this compare to ozonated water? > > Thanks, > Craig > > --- Saul Pressman <spressman@...> wrote: > > > > > Dear Craig, > > > > The simplest approach would be getting him to > drink > > ozonated water. > > My daughter has done so since she was 18 months. > > > > You could also try ear insufflation. That would > help > > to detox the brain. > > It will also eliminate any ear infections or > asthma. > > > > As he gets older you could add other protocols, > such > > as the ozone sauna. > > My daughter has been doing that since she was 2 > 1/2. > > > > You would need to buy an ozone generator, but > once > > you have it, it could be > > used for everyone in the family. > > > > Best of health! > > Dr. Saul Pressman > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------------------------ > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > From: Craig Garfinkel <cdgarfinkel@...> > > Reply-oxyplus > > oxyplus > > Subject: Brand new to the group > > Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 07:52:56 -0700 (PDT) > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > I'm brand new to this group. I'm father to a 2 > 1/2 > > year moderately autistic boy. I've done lots of > > research since obtaining this diagnosis and came > to > > the realization that " conventional " medicine had > > little to offer my son. > > > > My son is recovering, albeit slowly, through the > use > > of diet, homeopathy, bio resonance, sensory > > treatments, ABA and love. > > > > I've known about HBOT for some time now but have > not > > tried it. Recently, I heard about ozone therapy > and > > became intrigued. My son's gut has done a lot of > > healing over the past year but he still has his > > share > > of yeast, parasites & viruses. So I think some > form > > of oxygen therapy may be beneficial to him. > > > > Can someone make some recommendations for me? > I'm > > not > > even sure what my options are at this point. My > > feeling is that it may be difficult to administer > > some > > of these therapies on a 2 1/2 year old. Is > anyone > > treating young (autistic) children with these > > therapies? > > > > Thanks in advance for the help! > > > > Regards, > > Craig > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Designer Mail isn't just fun to send, it's fun to > > receive. Use special > > stationery, fonts and colors. > > > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca & page=byoa/prem & xAPID=1994 & DI=1034 & SU=http://\ hotmail.com/enca & HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > > > > Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium > > right now and get the > > first two months FREE*. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2004 Report Share Posted September 25, 2004 Is that dosage appropriate for children? My son is 2 1/2 and weighs 25 lbs. Thanks, Craig --- Saul Pressman <spressman@...> wrote: > Dear Craig, > > For internal use, the recommendation is 1 drop of > 35% > hydrogen peroxide in a glass of water for the first > day. > In each subsequent day, a drop is added, until you > are > taking 36 drops per glass by the 36th day. Then you > maintain at that level. > > Personally, I could never get past 12 drops a day. > > It is much easier to add it to bath water. > Put in 8 oz of 35% to a tubful and soak for 30 > minutes. > It is a bit hard on the chromed drain. > > If you read through the archives you will see a lot > of testimonials from > people on the list over the last 6 years. > > Best of health! > Dr. Saul Pressman > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ---- > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: Craig Garfinkel <cdgarfinkel@...> > Reply-oxyplus > oxyplus > Subject: RE: Ozone for autism > Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 07:43:28 -0700 (PDT) > > Hi Dr. Pressman, > > What is the appropriate dosage for taking hydrogen > peroxide orally? Can you add it to a bath instead > of > taking it orally? > > What results are people on this list seeing from the > various oxygen therapies? > > Thanks, > Craig > > --- Saul Pressman <spressman@...> wrote: > > > Dear Craig, > > > > You have to make ozonated water yourself, and > that > > requires buying an ozone > > generator. > > > > CLO2 drops are chlorine + oxygen. Oxygen good; > > chlorine bad. No comparison > > to > > ozonated water. > > > > If you want to go the least expensive oral route, > > you could try hydrogen > > peroxide, > > although it tastes nasty. > > > > I will email you a copy of my book The Story of > > Ozone so you can get up to > > speed on it. > > > > Best of Health! > > Dr. Saul Pressman > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > From: Craig Garfinkel <cdgarfinkel@...> > > Reply-oxyplus > > oxyplus > > Subject: RE: Ozone for autism > > Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:27:56 -0700 (PDT) > > > > Hi Dr. Pressman, > > > > Appreciate the response. Where does one find > > ozonated > > water? It seems like a simple way to start. > What > > type of healing properties would ozonated water > > have? > > I imagine it's not as strong as some of the other > > methods you mention. I just purchased a whole > house > > water filter and a reverse osmosis filtration > system > > for the kitchen sink. > > > > Are you familiar with CLO2 - liquid oxygen drops? > > Someone I know recommended starting with that? > How > > does this compare to ozonated water? > > > > Thanks, > > Craig > > > > --- Saul Pressman <spressman@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Craig, > > > > > > The simplest approach would be getting him to > > drink > > > ozonated water. > > > My daughter has done so since she was 18 > months. > > > > > > You could also try ear insufflation. That > would > > help > > > to detox the brain. > > > It will also eliminate any ear infections or > > asthma. > > > > > > As he gets older you could add other > protocols, > > such > > > as the ozone sauna. > > > My daughter has been doing that since she was > 2 > > 1/2. > > > > > > You would need to buy an ozone generator, but > > once > > > you have it, it could be > > > used for everyone in the family. > > > > > > Best of health! > > > Dr. Saul Pressman > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------------------------ > > > > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > > From: Craig Garfinkel <cdgarfinkel@...> > > > Reply-oxyplus > > > oxyplus > > > Subject: Brand new to the group > > > Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 07:52:56 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > > > I'm brand new to this group. I'm father to a > 2 > > 1/2 > > > year moderately autistic boy. I've done lots > of > > > research since obtaining this diagnosis and > came > > to > > > the realization that " conventional " medicine > had > > > little to offer my son. > > > > > > My son is recovering, albeit slowly, through > the > > use > > > of diet, homeopathy, bio resonance, sensory > > > treatments, ABA and love. > > > > > > I've known about HBOT for some time now but > have > > not > > > tried it. Recently, I heard about ozone > therapy > > and > > > became intrigued. My son's gut has done a lot > of > > > healing over the past year but he still has > his > > > share > > > of yeast, parasites & viruses. So I think > some > > form > > > of oxygen therapy may be beneficial to him. > > > > > > Can someone make some recommendations for me? > > I'm > > > not > > > even sure what my options are at this point. > My > > > feeling is that it may be difficult to > administer > > > some > > > of these therapies on a 2 1/2 year old. Is > > anyone > > > treating young (autistic) children with these > > > therapies? > > > > > > Thanks in advance for the help! > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 Dear Craig, I doubt you will be able to get him to drink it at all ! I would suggest you try the baths. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----Original Message Follows---- From: Craig Garfinkel <cdgarfinkel@...> Reply-oxyplus oxyplus Subject: RE: Hydrogen peroxide Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 10:47:14 -0700 (PDT) Is that dosage appropriate for children? My son is 2 1/2 and weighs 25 lbs. Thanks, Craig --- Saul Pressman <spressman@...> wrote: > Dear Craig, > > For internal use, the recommendation is 1 drop of > 35% > hydrogen peroxide in a glass of water for the first > day. > In each subsequent day, a drop is added, until you > are > taking 36 drops per glass by the 36th day. Then you > maintain at that level. > > Personally, I could never get past 12 drops a day. > > It is much easier to add it to bath water. > Put in 8 oz of 35% to a tubful and soak for 30 > minutes. > It is a bit hard on the chromed drain. > > If you read through the archives you will see a lot > of testimonials from > people on the list over the last 6 years. > > Best of health! > Dr. Saul Pressman > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ---- > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: Craig Garfinkel <cdgarfinkel@...> > Reply-oxyplus > oxyplus > Subject: RE: Ozone for autism > Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 07:43:28 -0700 (PDT) > > Hi Dr. Pressman, > > What is the appropriate dosage for taking hydrogen > peroxide orally? Can you add it to a bath instead > of > taking it orally? > > What results are people on this list seeing from the > various oxygen therapies? > > Thanks, > Craig > > --- Saul Pressman <spressman@...> wrote: > > > Dear Craig, > > > > You have to make ozonated water yourself, and > that > > requires buying an ozone > > generator. > > > > CLO2 drops are chlorine + oxygen. Oxygen good; > > chlorine bad. No comparison > > to > > ozonated water. > > > > If you want to go the least expensive oral route, > > you could try hydrogen > > peroxide, > > although it tastes nasty. > > > > I will email you a copy of my book The Story of > > Ozone so you can get up to > > speed on it. > > > > Best of Health! > > Dr. Saul Pressman > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > From: Craig Garfinkel <cdgarfinkel@...> > > Reply-oxyplus > > oxyplus > > Subject: RE: Ozone for autism > > Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:27:56 -0700 (PDT) > > > > Hi Dr. Pressman, > > > > Appreciate the response. Where does one find > > ozonated > > water? It seems like a simple way to start. > What > > type of healing properties would ozonated water > > have? > > I imagine it's not as strong as some of the other > > methods you mention. I just purchased a whole > house > > water filter and a reverse osmosis filtration > system > > for the kitchen sink. > > > > Are you familiar with CLO2 - liquid oxygen drops? > > Someone I know recommended starting with that? > How > > does this compare to ozonated water? > > > > Thanks, > > Craig > > > > --- Saul Pressman <spressman@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Craig, > > > > > > The simplest approach would be getting him to > > drink > > > ozonated water. > > > My daughter has done so since she was 18 > months. > > > > > > You could also try ear insufflation. That > would > > help > > > to detox the brain. > > > It will also eliminate any ear infections or > > asthma. > > > > > > As he gets older you could add other > protocols, > > such > > > as the ozone sauna. > > > My daughter has been doing that since she was > 2 > > 1/2. > > > > > > You would need to buy an ozone generator, but > > once > > > you have it, it could be > > > used for everyone in the family. > > > > > > Best of health! > > > Dr. Saul Pressman > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------------------------ > > > > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > > From: Craig Garfinkel <cdgarfinkel@...> > > > Reply-oxyplus > > > oxyplus > > > Subject: Brand new to the group > > > Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 07:52:56 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > > > I'm brand new to this group. I'm father to a > 2 > > 1/2 > > > year moderately autistic boy. I've done lots > of > > > research since obtaining this diagnosis and > came > > to > > > the realization that " conventional " medicine > had > > > little to offer my son. > > > > > > My son is recovering, albeit slowly, through > the > > use > > > of diet, homeopathy, bio resonance, sensory > > > treatments, ABA and love. > > > > > > I've known about HBOT for some time now but > have > > not > > > tried it. Recently, I heard about ozone > therapy > > and > > > became intrigued. My son's gut has done a lot > of > > > healing over the past year but he still has > his > > > share > > > of yeast, parasites & viruses. So I think > some > > form > > > of oxygen therapy may be beneficial to him. > > > > > > Can someone make some recommendations for me? > > I'm > > > not > > > even sure what my options are at this point. > My > > > feeling is that it may be difficult to > administer > > > some > > > of these therapies on a 2 1/2 year old. Is > > anyone > > > treating young (autistic) children with these > > > therapies? > > > > > > Thanks in advance for the help! > === message truncated === _________________________________________________________________ Powerful Parental Controls Let your child discover the best the Internet has to offer. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca & page=byoa/prem & xAPID=1994 & DI=1034 & SU=http://\ hotmail.com/enca & HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 > G'morning All. Would someone give me the list addy of a hydrogen peroxide > list, please? I want to ask about IV drip rates and times for my Lady > since the Candida is probably still with her. Many thanks, Obie. ========================== Dear Sweet Obie, So many times I think about you and your wife's situation. I always find myself at a loss. I truly do not know how to express my feelings toward what the two of you are going through. Even now I am having a hard time trying to put into words what I feel. My heart is full of feelings but I don't know how to express it. Often I will wake up in the middle of the night and just pray for you guys. Anyway, guess I'm not doing a very good job expressing myself now, but I did somehow what to let you know I am thinking of you guys for whatever that is worth. Now in answer to your question. I did a short web search and came up with this address that you can contact to get all the information you will need including what physician to use, etc. They said any licensed physician may administer the treatment, but only trained and experienced physicians are recognized by the IBOM Foundation. Here's the info: International Bio-Oxidative Medicine Foundation (IBOM) P.O. Box 61767 Dallas/Forth Worth, Texax 75261 (817)481-9772 May God richly bless the both of you always. Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 obie, how is your wife doing? have any of the therapies worked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 G'mornin', and thanks for asking. I'm sure you've received my latest update but I wanted to respond to your question about any of the therapies. Actually, I think every one of them are working. I finally found out how to control her Blood Sugar -- yesterday it read out at 120, in the Hospital they forced it over 300, giving her Pork Insulin every 2 to 3 hours --and I'm happy with her present diet. We're going forward with the Hyperbaric chamber we 've been furnished and I'm convinced she'll be all right before long. And please remember us when you pray. Best regards, Obie. _____ From: aluckower [mailto:aluckower@...] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 10:06 PM oxyplus Subject: Re: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide obie, how is your wife doing? have any of the therapies worked? OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 Obie, as one who has a home hyperbaric chamber, I do believe it's going to be wonderful for her. > G'mornin', and thanks for asking. I'm sure you've received my latest update > but I wanted to respond to your question about any of the therapies. > Actually, I think every one of them are working. I finally found out how to > control her Blood Sugar -- yesterday it read out at 120, in the Hospital > they forced it over 300, giving her Pork Insulin every 2 to 3 hours --and > I'm happy with her present diet. We're going forward with the Hyperbaric > chamber we 've been furnished and I'm convinced she'll be all right before > long. And please remember us when you pray. Best regards, Obie. > > _____ > > From: aluckower [mailto:aluckower@n...] > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 10:06 PM > oxyplus > Subject: Re: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide > > > obie, > > how is your wife doing? > > have any of the therapies worked? > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other > alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are > for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher > or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the > message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 Gail, what I should have asked for is a list similar to this one that's HP oriented, Sweetie. Any chance you know of such a list for me? I just want to ask questions of individuals for antedoctal responses, people who've done it, that know from their own experience, before I begin a series of drips for her. I don't want a Physician, he'll just mess things up for me -- sorry to say it but that's my experience -- and he'll attempt to issue a list of orders that will be contrary to the spirit within which guides me. My primary goal is redemptive, restorative; not treatment or therapy. Obie. _____ From: wanda85929 [mailto:wanda85929@...] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 10:01 PM oxyplus Subject: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide > G'morning All. Would someone give me the list addy of a hydrogen peroxide > list, please? I want to ask about IV drip rates and times for my Lady > since the Candida is probably still with her. Many thanks, Obie. ========================== Dear Sweet Obie, So many times I think about you and your wife's situation. I always find myself at a loss. I truly do not know how to express my feelings toward what the two of you are going through. Even now I am having a hard time trying to put into words what I feel. My heart is full of feelings but I don't know how to express it. Often I will wake up in the middle of the night and just pray for you guys. Anyway, guess I'm not doing a very good job expressing myself now, but I did somehow what to let you know I am thinking of you guys for whatever that is worth. Now in answer to your question. I did a short web search and came up with this address that you can contact to get all the information you will need including what physician to use, etc. They said any licensed physician may administer the treatment, but only trained and experienced physicians are recognized by the IBOM Foundation. Here's the info: International Bio-Oxidative Medicine Foundation (IBOM) P.O. Box 61767 Dallas/Forth Worth, Texax 75261 (817)481-9772 May God richly bless the both of you always. Gail OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 Hello, Ms. Tappy Toes, thanks for the post. I'm curious which Chamber you use and how often you use it, what pressures, how long, please. I only have one person guiding me and, normally, I function better if I hear from several. That way I'm able to put together what I think is a more practial protocol for myself in the beginning and I make adjustments as I go. Today, she has been in this Chamber 46 times at 1.5 hours each with 4 pounds of room air pressure and 12 LPM of O2 provided at her Trach. I'm not going to have this Chamber much longer and I think I'm going to have a steel vessel made for me if I can swing it. Back to you, please. Obie., _____ From: jill1313 [mailto:jill1313@...] Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 1:23 PM oxyplus Subject: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide Obie, as one who has a home hyperbaric chamber, I do believe it's going to be wonderful for her. > G'mornin', and thanks for asking. I'm sure you've received my latest update > but I wanted to respond to your question about any of the therapies. > Actually, I think every one of them are working. I finally found out how to > control her Blood Sugar -- yesterday it read out at 120, in the Hospital > they forced it over 300, giving her Pork Insulin every 2 to 3 hours --and > I'm happy with her present diet. We're going forward with the Hyperbaric > chamber we 've been furnished and I'm convinced she'll be all right before > long. And please remember us when you pray. Best regards, Obie. > > _____ > > From: aluckower [mailto:aluckower@n...] > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 10:06 PM > oxyplus > Subject: Re: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide > > > obie, > > how is your wife doing? > > have any of the therapies worked? > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other > alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are > for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher > or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the > message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 She has been in the chamber 46 times? How is that possible? I have what is probably a similar chamber--it goes to about 5 psi but the newer ones go to only 4.2 psi which is about 1.25 or 1.3 ata I guess. That is good. 12 liters a minute 02 is very good, my Integra does 10 liters aminute though once the chamber is inflated, probably only about 8-9. I don't think more than a few hours a day at most is wise...too much 02 can be toxic...and she should take " air breaks " ...especially if the 02 is feeding directly into her trach. I'm concerned about steel homemade chambers...I think these mild portable chambers are safe, otherwise you need an experienced tech who is trained in regulating them, and you need them built to very strict specifications. > > G'mornin', and thanks for asking. I'm sure you've received my > latest update > > but I wanted to respond to your question about any of the therapies. > > Actually, I think every one of them are working. I finally found > out how to > > control her Blood Sugar -- yesterday it read out at 120, in the > Hospital > > they forced it over 300, giving her Pork Insulin every 2 to 3 > hours --and > > I'm happy with her present diet. We're going forward with the > Hyperbaric > > chamber we 've been furnished and I'm convinced she'll be all right > before > > long. And please remember us when you pray. Best regards, Obie. > > > > _____ > > > > From: aluckower [mailto:aluckower@n...] > > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 10:06 PM > > oxyplus > > Subject: Re: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide > > > > > > obie, > > > > how is your wife doing? > > > > have any of the therapies worked? > > > > > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, > and other > > alternative self-help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find > here are > > for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do > so at your > > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the > ability to > > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you > agree to > > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas > found > > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a > researcher > > or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the > following > > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or > BODY of the > > message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to > normal mode. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Dear Obie, Hydrogenperoxide@ groups Laurie RE: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide Gail, what I should have asked for is a list similar to this one that's HP oriented, Sweetie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Hey, Laurie, would you give it differently, please? I tried that at Internet Exploirer and nothing came up. Obie. _____ From: Laurie K. [mailto:laurker@...] Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 3:16 AM oxyplus Subject: Re: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide Dear Obie, Hydrogenperoxide@ groups Laurie RE: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide Gail, what I should have asked for is a list similar to this one that's HP oriented, Sweetie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 go to www. then find the group called hydrogenperoxide and join. just like when you join oxyplus. Laurie Re: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide Dear Obie, Hydrogenperoxide@ groups Laurie ----- Original Message ----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Hiu, Jill, let me answer some of these questions, please. She's been within the Chamber area 23 times. She dives for 1.5 hours, has a 1 hour air break and then dives again for 1.5 hours. When she goes in, she stays in for that length opf time because she is so difficult to handle going in and coming out; can't just crawl in or out. About my thoughts concerning a steel chamber, I plan to put pop-off valves, two automatic at one end and one manual at the other end, to release extra air so the pressure doesn't go above a selected point. Can you think of other items that would cause concern? Back to you. Obie. _____ From: jill1313 [mailto:jill1313@...] Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 11:57 PM oxyplus Subject: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide She has been in the chamber 46 times? How is that possible? I have what is probably a similar chamber--it goes to about 5 psi but the newer ones go to only 4.2 psi which is about 1.25 or 1.3 ata I guess. That is good. 12 liters a minute 02 is very good, my Integra does 10 liters aminute though once the chamber is inflated, probably only about 8-9. I don't think more than a few hours a day at most is wise...too much 02 can be toxic...and she should take " air breaks " ...especially if the 02 is feeding directly into her trach. I'm concerned about steel homemade chambers...I think these mild portable chambers are safe, otherwise you need an experienced tech who is trained in regulating them, and you need them built to very strict specifications. > > G'mornin', and thanks for asking. I'm sure you've received my > latest update > > but I wanted to respond to your question about any of the therapies. > > Actually, I think every one of them are working. I finally found > out how to > > control her Blood Sugar -- yesterday it read out at 120, in the > Hospital > > they forced it over 300, giving her Pork Insulin every 2 to 3 > hours --and > > I'm happy with her present diet. We're going forward with the > Hyperbaric > > chamber we 've been furnished and I'm convinced she'll be all right > before > > long. And please remember us when you pray. Best regards, Obie. > > > > _____ > > > > From: aluckower [mailto:aluckower@n...] > > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 10:06 PM > > oxyplus > > Subject: Re: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide > > > > > > obie, > > > > how is your wife doing? > > > > have any of the therapies worked? > > > > > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, > and other > > alternative self-help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find > here are > > for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do > so at your > > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the > ability to > > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you > agree to > > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas > found > > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a > researcher > > or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the > following > > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or > BODY of the > > message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to > normal mode. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 If you're seriously considering building a chamber, please contact Lance Brubaker at lancebru@.... Say Jill sent you. Building a home chamber is dangerous without engineering and hyperbaric and diving knowledge, and especially trying to treat somebody in a coma (is she still in a coma)? Also, why don't you contact oxyhealth that makes the chambers and tell them your situation. On occasion, I hear through the grapevine, they will donate or lend a chamber. I don't know for sure if this is true, but you might as well try. I understand what you're saying about getting her in and out. Just be sure to do those airbreaks, in fact at deeper pressures hbo clinics will airbreak at 45 minutes. > > > G'mornin', and thanks for asking. I'm sure you've received my > > latest update > > > but I wanted to respond to your question about any of the > therapies. > > > Actually, I think every one of them are working. I finally found > > out how to > > > control her Blood Sugar -- yesterday it read out at 120, in the > > Hospital > > > they forced it over 300, giving her Pork Insulin every 2 to 3 > > hours --and > > > I'm happy with her present diet. We're going forward with the > > Hyperbaric > > > chamber we 've been furnished and I'm convinced she'll be all > right > > before > > > long. And please remember us when you pray. Best regards, Obie. > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > From: aluckower [mailto:aluckower@n...] > > > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 10:06 PM > > > oxyplus > > > Subject: Re: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide > > > > > > > > > obie, > > > > > > how is your wife doing? > > > > > > have any of the therapies worked? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative > therapies, > > and other > > > alternative self-help subjects. > > > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will > find > > here are > > > for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > > > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do > > so at your > > > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the > > ability to > > > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you > > agree to > > > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any > ideas > > found > > > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a > > researcher > > > or health care provider. > > > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the > > following > > > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or > > BODY of the > > > message! : > > > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to > > normal mode. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 _____ From: jill1313 [mailto:jill1313@...] Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 3:23 PM oxyplus Subject: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide If you're seriously considering building a chamber, please contact Lance Brubaker at lancebru@.... Say Jill sent you. Building a home chamber is dangerous without engineering and hyperbaric and diving knowledge, and especially trying to treat somebody in a coma (is she still in a coma)? Also, why don't you contact oxyhealth that makes the chambers and tell them your situation. On occasion, I hear through the grapevine, they will donate or lend a chamber. I don't know for sure if this is true, but you might as well try. I understand what you're saying about getting her in and out. Just be sure to do those airbreaks, in fact at deeper pressures hbo clinics will airbreak at 45 minutes. > > > G'mornin', and thanks for asking. I'm sure you've received my > > latest update > > > but I wanted to respond to your question about any of the > therapies. > > > Actually, I think every one of them are working. I finally found > > out how to > > > control her Blood Sugar -- yesterday it read out at 120, in the > > Hospital > > > they forced it over 300, giving her Pork Insulin every 2 to 3 > > hours --and > > > I'm happy with her present diet. We're going forward with the > > Hyperbaric > > > chamber we 've been furnished and I'm convinced she'll be all > right > > before > > > long. And please remember us when you pray. Best regards, Obie. > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > From: aluckower [mailto:aluckower@n...] > > > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 10:06 PM > > > oxyplus > > > Subject: Re: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide > > > > > > > > > obie, > > > > > > how is your wife doing? > > > > > > have any of the therapies worked? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative > therapies, > > and other > > > alternative self-help subjects. > > > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will > find > > here are > > > for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > > > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do > > so at your > > > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the > > ability to > > > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you > > agree to > > > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any > ideas > > found > > > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a > > researcher > > > or health care provider. > > > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the > > following > > > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or > > BODY of the > > > message! : > > > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to > > normal mode. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Thank you, Ms. Jill; let's see if he makes a return post. And she's not in a coma still, she came to after 6 weeks but except for that her eyes are open when I think she's awake, she's coma-like. Obie. _____ From: jill1313 [mailto:jill1313@...] Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 3:23 PM oxyplus Subject: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide If you're seriously considering building a chamber, please contact Lance Brubaker at lancebru@.... Say Jill sent you. Building a home chamber is dangerous without engineering and hyperbaric and diving knowledge, and especially trying to treat somebody in a coma (is she still in a coma)? Also, why don't you contact oxyhealth that makes the chambers and tell them your situation. On occasion, I hear through the grapevine, they will donate or lend a chamber. I don't know for sure if this is true, but you might as well try. I understand what you're saying about getting her in and out. Just be sure to do those airbreaks, in fact at deeper pressures hbo clinics will airbreak at 45 minutes. > > > G'mornin', and thanks for asking. I'm sure you've received my > > latest update > > > but I wanted to respond to your question about any of the > therapies. > > > Actually, I think every one of them are working. I finally found > > out how to > > > control her Blood Sugar -- yesterday it read out at 120, in the > > Hospital > > > they forced it over 300, giving her Pork Insulin every 2 to 3 > > hours --and > > > I'm happy with her present diet. We're going forward with the > > Hyperbaric > > > chamber we 've been furnished and I'm convinced she'll be all > right > > before > > > long. And please remember us when you pray. Best regards, Obie. > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > From: aluckower [mailto:aluckower@n...] > > > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 10:06 PM > > > oxyplus > > > Subject: Re: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide > > > > > > > > > obie, > > > > > > how is your wife doing? > > > > > > have any of the therapies worked? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative > therapies, > > and other > > > alternative self-help subjects. > > > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will > find > > here are > > > for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > > > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do > > so at your > > > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the > > ability to > > > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you > > agree to > > > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any > ideas > > found > > > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a > > researcher > > > or health care provider. > > > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the > > following > > > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or > > BODY of the > > > message! : > > > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to > > normal mode. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 Hey, Jill, I wish you'd state the exact address of oxyhealth for me, please. I haven't been able to find it yet. Thanx, Obie. _____ From: jill1313 [mailto:jill1313@...] Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 3:23 PM oxyplus Subject: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide If you're seriously considering building a chamber, please contact Lance Brubaker at lancebru@.... Say Jill sent you. Building a home chamber is dangerous without engineering and hyperbaric and diving knowledge, and especially trying to treat somebody in a coma (is she still in a coma)? Also, why don't you contact oxyhealth that makes the chambers and tell them your situation. On occasion, I hear through the grapevine, they will donate or lend a chamber. I don't know for sure if this is true, but you might as well try. I understand what you're saying about getting her in and out. Just be sure to do those airbreaks, in fact at deeper pressures hbo clinics will airbreak at 45 minutes. > > > G'mornin', and thanks for asking. I'm sure you've received my > > latest update > > > but I wanted to respond to your question about any of the > therapies. > > > Actually, I think every one of them are working. I finally found > > out how to > > > control her Blood Sugar -- yesterday it read out at 120, in the > > Hospital > > > they forced it over 300, giving her Pork Insulin every 2 to 3 > > hours --and > > > I'm happy with her present diet. We're going forward with the > > Hyperbaric > > > chamber we 've been furnished and I'm convinced she'll be all > right > > before > > > long. And please remember us when you pray. Best regards, Obie. > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > From: aluckower [mailto:aluckower@n...] > > > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 10:06 PM > > > oxyplus > > > Subject: Re: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide > > > > > > > > > obie, > > > > > > how is your wife doing? > > > > > > have any of the therapies worked? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative > therapies, > > and other > > > alternative self-help subjects. > > > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will > find > > here are > > > for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > > > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do > > so at your > > > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the > > ability to > > > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you > > agree to > > > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any > ideas > > found > > > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a > > researcher > > > or health care provider. > > > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the > > following > > > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or > > BODY of the > > > message! : > > > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to > > normal mode. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 Hi Obie-- This link will get you to oral peroxide group ... oralperoxide/ Or you can just send a blank email to oralperoxide-subscribe Hydrogen peroxide group is at HydrogenPeroxide/, or again a blank email to HydrogenPeroxide-subscribe Regards/, in Bangkok --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.802 / Virus Database: 545 - Release Date: 26-Nov-04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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