swimming

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Diane,

Gabby would love to hang out with Rochelle then! What an accomplishment!!

My little fish is not able to swim yet but just *try* to get her out of the

pool.... LOL She is amazingly strong.

That is so awesome. Great sensory experience, too.

Speaking of swimming... has anyone heard of aquatic speech therapy? I am

supposed to attend a mtg where there will be a speaker on this. What a concept

;-)

Sandy

If you have made mistakes... there is always another chance for you... you may

have a fresh start any moment you choose, for this thing we call " failure " is

not the falling down, but the staying down. - Pickford

Re: swimming

I've filled out questionaires about what my child is really good at and

always came up blank. I have finally found what Rochelle is good at.

Swimming!!! On vacation, her Grandmother's community pool was to deep and

voila Rochelle started swimming. She would dive under off the stairs and turn

around and swim underwater back. If she went to far she would bounce up and

down to get air. It was amazing. I am so proud of her. No one has taught her.

She did it completely on her own. I am hoping that she will learn to jump

because of the pool.

Even the lifeguards think she is amazing. Sorry if I am bragging to much. I

am having a glass of wine right now. Just felt like sharing.

Diane (mom to Rochelle-asd/ds who just turned 6 and Danny-asd/ld 8)

[Guest guest]

-We want you to share!!!! This is so fantastic, wow, Go girl, I would

really love to see her swim, have any pictures? You should be proud,

so am I for you. God Bless, Dawn

-- In @y..., dben937342@a... wrote:

> I've filled out questionaires about what my child is really good at

and

> always came up blank. I have finally found what Rochelle is good

at.

> Swimming!!! On vacation, her Grandmother's community pool was to

deep and

> voila Rochelle started swimming. She would dive under off the

stairs and turn

> around and swim underwater back. If she went to far she would

bounce up and

> down to get air. It was amazing. I am so proud of her. No one has

taught her.

> She did it completely on her own. I am hoping that she will learn

to jump

> because of the pool.

>

> Even the lifeguards think she is amazing. Sorry if I am bragging to

much. I

> am having a glass of wine right now. Just felt like sharing.

>

> Diane (mom to Rochelle-asd/ds who just turned 6 and Danny-asd/ld 8)

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/8/02 4:35:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

dben937342@... writes:

> I am so proud of her. No one has taught her.

> She did it completely on her own. I am hoping that she will learn to jump

> because of the pool.

>

> Even the lifeguards think she is amazing. Sorry if I am bragging to much. I

> am having a glass of wine right now. Just felt like sharing.

>

Hey don't you dare!!!! Brag away!!!!! I'll bet she does learn to jump

because of the pool. Something tells me Diane, you're going to be VERY

water-logged this summer...LOL

Congrats to Rochelle!!! That IS indeed a wonderful skill!!!

Donna

[Guest guest]

>From: " dpligon37129 " <DPLigon@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: swimming

>Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 12:22:03 -0000

>

>-We want you to share!!!! This is so fantastic, wow, Go girl, I would

>really love to see her swim, have any pictures? You should be proud,

>so am I for you. God Bless, Dawn

>

>

>

>

>-- In @y..., dben937342@a... wrote:

> > I've filled out questionaires about what my child is really good at

>and

> > always came up blank. I have finally found what Rochelle is good

>at.

> > Swimming!!! On vacation, her Grandmother's community pool was to

>deep and

> > voila Rochelle started swimming. She would dive under off the

>stairs and turn

> > around and swim underwater back. If she went to far she would

>bounce up and

> > down to get air. It was amazing. I am so proud of her. No one has

>taught her.

> > She did it completely on her own. I am hoping that she will learn

>to jump

> > because of the pool.

> >

> > Even the lifeguards think she is amazing. Sorry if I am bragging to

>much. I

> > am having a glass of wine right now. Just felt like sharing.

> >

> > Diane (mom to Rochelle-asd/ds who just turned 6 and Danny-asd/ld 8)

>

diane, that is great about rochelle...wow you must be so proud.... i think

it gives them an extra boost of spirit when they realize they are like fish

and have power of themselves in the water..... yeah.... :-)

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congrats, good job

--- duffey48@... wrote:

> In a message dated 7/8/02 4:35:22 PM Eastern

> Daylight Time,

> dben937342@... writes:

>

>

> > I am so proud of her. No one has taught her.

> > She did it completely on her own. I am hoping that

> she will learn to jump

> > because of the pool.

> >

> > Even the lifeguards think she is amazing. Sorry if

> I am bragging to much. I

> > am having a glass of wine right now. Just felt

> like sharing.

> >

>

> Hey don't you dare!!!! Brag away!!!!! I'll bet

> she does learn to jump

> because of the pool. Something tells me Diane,

> you're going to be VERY

> water-logged this summer...LOL

> Congrats to Rochelle!!! That IS indeed a wonderful

> skill!!!

> Donna

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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[Guest guest]

that is wonderful news!! i love to hear all brag

times, they are important, and make me smile too.

shawna.

--- dben937342@... wrote:

> I've filled out questionaires about what my child is

> really good at and

> always came up blank. I have finally found what

> Rochelle is good at.

> Swimming!!! On vacation, her Grandmother's community

> pool was to deep and

> voila Rochelle started swimming. She would dive

> under off the stairs and turn

> around and swim underwater back. If she went to far

> she would bounce up and

> down to get air. It was amazing. I am so proud of

> her. No one has taught her.

> She did it completely on her own. I am hoping that

> she will learn to jump

> because of the pool.

>

> Even the lifeguards think she is amazing. Sorry if I

> am bragging to much. I

> am having a glass of wine right now. Just felt like

> sharing.

>

> Diane (mom to Rochelle-asd/ds who just turned 6 and

> Danny-asd/ld 8)

>

>

[Guest guest]

I brought my boys swimming at the Y yesterday. The place was packed with

people, I notices alot of Dads with their kids swimming too. Everyone was so

nice to me and the water felt very nice too. It was until I left and went

into the locker room that I realized that my new swimming suit had become

transparent in the water!!! No wonder all the men were being soo nice, I may

as well have been naked. Just wanted to share that funny story, my husband

is still laughing his butt off!

[Guest guest]

We bought a house in Pueblo Colorado. Alot cheaper then Colorado Springs.

The wait list for housing is 18 months and those are the dumpy ones. My

husband is a Cav Scout and is devoted to the Army. Sometimes I think that I

am secondary. Amy

[Guest guest]

LOL,, that is funny. What does your husband do? Do you live on post? I

ve seen pictures of the new housing at Ft. Carson, it looks great!! Ours

here in Savannah is the dumps, you couldnt pay me to live in it. take care

[Guest guest]

Thank you for making me laugh!!! I needed this tonight before I retired for

the evening. A very hysterical story! Be well friend and when your husband

isn't looking...cut out his liner in his bathing suit and go back to the Y..

..sit back and enjoy!!!

Love, Sue #2

-- re:swimming

I brought my boys swimming at the Y yesterday. The place was packed with

people, I notices alot of Dads with their kids swimming too. Everyone was so

nice to me and the water felt very nice too. It was until I left and went

into the locker room that I realized that my new swimming suit had become

transparent in the water!!! No wonder all the men were being soo nice, I may

as well have been naked. Just wanted to share that funny story, my husband

is still laughing his butt off!

[Guest guest]

-I didn't know you couldn't swim if you had radicalmastoidectomy. Does anyone know if this is untrue? Isure will miss training for minitri's if this is thecase :

Hi

The usual medical advice is that it's not a good idea to get water in your ears if you have missing or perforated eardrums. Water will make infections more likely and certainly the cold does affect the fluid in the semicircular canals. I've never had intact eardrums and was never more than half-hearted about taking precautions; I would go on holiday, do lots of swimming and always come home with chronic ear-ache. So, does that kind of repeated damage catch up with you eventually? It surely doesn't help!

Phil

[Guest guest]

Hi Phil,

It is always nice to read your posts. I did a bit of reading today, and it described the CWD as having the eardrum removed to enable cleanings... I have an eardrum, although it is a rebuilt "model". I am very confused about this because after my surgery, I asked my doctor about reconstruction, and he told me if the ear drum "came back", he could do it. In July when he examined and cleaned my ear, the ear drum was there, and we discussed doing the ossiculoplasty next spring. He was able to see into another area of my ear, and I am wondering about where this opening he was looking through is located... Anyway, he cautioned me about keeping water out, so there must be another opening where water could get in and cause me grief...

Lynn

Re: Swimming

-I didn't know you couldn't swim if you had radicalmastoidectomy. Does anyone know if this is untrue? Isure will miss training for minitri's if this is thecase :

Hi

The usual medical advice is that it's not a good idea to get water in your ears if you have missing or perforated eardrums. Water will make infections more likely and certainly the cold does affect the fluid in the semicircular canals. I've never had intact eardrums and was never more than half-hearted about taking precautions; I would go on holiday, do lots of swimming and always come home with chronic ear-ache. So, does that kind of repeated damage catch up with you eventually? It surely doesn't help!

Phil

[Guest guest]

Hi Lynn

Weren't we previously speculating that your ear must have side door into the middle ear; through the canal wall and via the mastoid cavity. Like the ears they're performed on, these operations seem idiographic - maybe you just expect a variation on the textbook description.

How successful are ear plugs? I recently asked the audiology unit to make me some but they won't do it while there's an ongoing disease process - same thing with the hearing aids.

Phil

Hi Phil,

It is always nice to read your posts. I did a bit of reading today, and it described the CWD as having the eardrum removed to enable cleanings... I have an eardrum, although it is a rebuilt "model". I am very confused about this because after my surgery, I asked my doctor about reconstruction, and he told me if the ear drum "came back", he could do it. In July when he examined and cleaned my ear, the ear drum was there, and we discussed doing the ossiculoplasty next spring. He was able to see into another area of my ear, and I am wondering about where this opening he was looking through is located... Anyway, he cautioned me about keeping water out, so there must be another opening where water could get in and cause me grief...

Lynn.

[Guest guest]

Hi Phil,

Yes we did discuss this "side door" to the middle ear. I wish I knew for sure. With all the resources on the internet, I haven't been able to find anything describing this. I will ask my doctor the next time I see him, but that wont be till spring.

I have never tried ear plugs... yet... I didn't do any swimming this year, so I can't comment on whether they are successful or not.

Lynn

Re: Swimming

Hi Lynn

Weren't we previously speculating that your ear must have side door into the middle ear; through the canal wall and via the mastoid cavity. Like the ears they're performed on, these operations seem idiographic - maybe you just expect a variation on the textbook description.

How successful are ear plugs? I recently asked the audiology unit to make me some but they won't do it while there's an ongoing disease process - same thing with the hearing aids.

Phil

Hi Phil,

It is always nice to read your posts. I did a bit of reading today, and it described the CWD as having the eardrum removed to enable cleanings... I have an eardrum, although it is a rebuilt "model". I am very confused about this because after my surgery, I asked my doctor about reconstruction, and he told me if the ear drum "came back", he could do it. In July when he examined and cleaned my ear, the ear drum was there, and we discussed doing the ossiculoplasty next spring. He was able to see into another area of my ear, and I am wondering about where this opening he was looking through is located... Anyway, he cautioned me about keeping water out, so there must be another opening where water could get in and cause me grief...

Lynn.

[Guest guest]

I wanted to start taking Austin swimming in a public pool, anything I should

be concerned about since he's not vaxed?

Jenni )

mom to austin 4-24-02

&

fur baby dazey

wife to joe 7-29-00

[Guest guest]

Now that you mentioned this I am also need some information about swimming in

public pools!!

Maybe some of you can take my fears about getting diseases like Polio from just

vaxxed kids in pools.

My concerns are that the urine, either from diapers or older kids which just

urinated in the water, is contaminate and my kids can get Polio etc. when they

are swimming in the same water.

On our last vacation to Florida we never used the pool because of my fear and my

kids were so disappointed.

Tatjana

Re: swimming

I wanted to start taking Austin swimming in a public pool, anything I should

be concerned about since he's not vaxed?

Jenni )

mom to austin 4-24-02

&

fur baby dazey

wife to joe 7-29-00

[Guest guest]

At 12:26 PM 02/18/2003 -0500, you wrote:

>Now that you mentioned this I am also need some information about swimming

in public pools!!

>

>Maybe some of you can take my fears about getting diseases like Polio from

just vaxxed kids in pools.

>My concerns are that the urine, either from diapers or older kids which

just urinated in the water, is contaminate and my kids can get Polio etc.

when they are swimming in the same water.

>On our last vacation to Florida we never used the pool because of my fear

and my kids were so disappointed.

>

>Tatjana

>

>

Oral Polio is rarely used in the US anymore - that is the diaper risk

And the chlorine should kill anything.

Sheri

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> At 12:26 PM 02/18/2003 -0500, you wrote:

> >Now that you mentioned this I am also need some information

> about swimming

> in public pools!!

> >

> >Maybe some of you can take my fears about getting diseases like

> Polio from

> just vaxxed kids in pools.

> >My concerns are that the urine, either from diapers or older kids which

> just urinated in the water, is contaminate and my kids can get Polio etc.

> when they are swimming in the same water.

> >On our last vacation to Florida we never used the pool because of my fear

> and my kids were so disappointed.

> >

> >Tatjana

> >

> >

>

> Oral Polio is rarely used in the US anymore - that is the diaper risk

> And the chlorine should kill anything.

> Sheri

And where it is, it's excreted in the faeces, I think?

Sue

[Guest guest]

Fear and shame definitely had more to do with my learning to swim:)

This achon didn't learn to swim until I was 20...I kind of " faked it " for

years...as long as the pool had a 3 foot end...despite years of swimming

lessons.

Until one day I was going away on spring break with friends and on the way

down to Fla all I did was talk about how I wanted to get in the pool...but

when I got there I discovered to my horror that the shallow end was more

than 3 feet deep.

So instead of fessing up to my friends I just got in there somehow...I'm not

sure how it happened, but after that week I knew how to swim. (One of my

friends was a lifeguard, and I suspect she figured out the whole thing

immediately.)

Cara

> From: dwarfism

> Reply-dwarfism

> Date: 9 Mar 2003 10:52:40 -0000

> dwarfism

> Subject: Digest Number 1681

>

> I wonder how much swimming ability has to do with type of dwarfism?

>

> Ever since I've learned how to swim (at about age 7) I've always been able to

> keep my head out of the water and tread water easily. In fact, when I was in

> Boy Scouts (at age 14) I was able to tread water for 30 minutes non-stop to

> earn my swimming merit badge (and this was before I was fat and could float

> like a dollop of whipped cream).

>

> Maybe it's because I'm diastrophic. Or maybe it's because my mother was a

> lifeguard and a swimming instructor. Who knows?

>

> -Bill Bradford

>

[Guest guest]

Caroline,

I hope you aren't thinking of jumping in a cold lake!! Then, you have other

issues we should talk about! All of this exercise stuff is frustrating!

[Guest guest]

> Didn't post something about how swimming isn't like other cardio

> once? I know I've read (and experienced) about how swimming, unlike

> other forms of exercise, tends to make people really hungry. I remember

> going to the pool as a kid and always feeling famished when I got out.

>

She did and I previously read before she posted those

Maybe I'm just not understanding the point of the 20 minutes of HIIT. From my

understanding, it is not meant for you to burn 'fat' 'during the 20 minutes of

HIIT but actually help you raise your metabolism for the rest of the day so that

your burn more calories.

Technically, it takes your body 15-20 minutes of cardio exercise is spent using

your glycogen stores for fuel and no fat is used. Fat is started to be used as

fuel after those glycogen stores are depleated.

As also pointed out(I believe it was her who did), there isn't much of an

explanation as to " why " swimming does what it does. Technically, it raises

your heart rate so there's your cardio exercise. It apparently does however

use more of your glycogen stores for fuel(which according to some is the

reason you are so hungry afterwards). But if the point of HIIT is to raise your

metabolism throughout the day, wouldn't most cardio exercise do this? Most

of the articles I have read about swimming and fat burning focus on the

amount of fat burned during the exercise instead of focussing on metabolism

increase. There are also other studies who claim that swimming is just as a

good cardio exercise as any(I know some trainers at my gym disagree among

each other with the effects of swimming).

In any case, if the problem is in fact that swimming doesn't 'raise your

metabolism' enough to help burn more calories across the day then it is

terribly disapointing to me because I really dislike doing any other cardio and

cardio in the past has been the step towards failure(I eventually start skipping

cardio).

But, now that I've experienced this for myself(lack of body fat loss) & I found

out I can cancel my swim team practices for next month, I plan on forcing

myself into doing cardio. Since I hate machines, etc, would taking a step class

be a good substitute? There are step classes every morning that would work

in my schedule. If they will give me the same benefits, I'd rather doe that

than

an elliptical machines. I've never taken any steps class so I don't know how

they compare for HIIT? any idea?

[Guest guest]

Hi,

loves the water but has always required someone to hold her hands to

" swim " . In a pool she usually wont let go of the edge. We do most of our

swimming in the ocean- up until yesterday, she never went in on her own without

holding on to someone.

Well, yesterday, I look up and amanda is in the water splashing away! I am

hopeful that after a week at camp without me, she will come home a true

swimmer- I've taught her to float, swim with someone holding two hands, holding

her

under her belly, etc. But shes still a little afraid and needs someone to

'teach' her thats not me!

~ Mom to 12 DS and Diabetes Type 1 and 9 NY

[Guest guest]

Hi folks,

I just wanted to brag about Rochelle and her swimming again...Hope you don't

mind. She is in the deep water constantly doing back and forward summersalts,

handstands, splits and twisty things and I am so proud of her. This is really a

strength for her and I think it is helping her verbally as well.

Of course, I haven't pursued all the things I was going to do this summer. I was

going to do the straw therapy and the Bechman (sp?) exercises for her face. And,

going to panties for potty training. Nothing has been done. We did do the ballet

and will continue for the next year weekly. She has started to say small and big

which she learned in ballet. We cut the time down because of not getting the

grant. But, she seems to like it. It is one on one.

But, Rochelle is queen of the pool. All the lifeguards watch her and the kids do

too! She just never stops from going under that water. She swims better then me

now. All self taught. I don't think she would ever follow directions or try to

win a race but she sure has fun. Still not talking to much.

Oh, one more thing. Some parents are trying to start a Charter school in our

area. It is very exciting. It will just be for Autism. I am reading the proposal

today. If approved it could open as soon as next fall of 2004. ABA is the method

they will be implementing the most with one on one teaching for early learners.

I'll keep you informed. It will cost nothing to the parents.

I've been reading posts but by the time I get through them I have no time to

write. Welcome to all newcomers. This is the first week we don't have some kind

of school.

Diane

(mom to Rochelle 7-ds/asd/celiac and Danny 9-ld/asd/ocd/add.

[Guest guest]

i love to read brags, so brag away!!! sounds fantastic she is such a great

swimmer!!! definately let her keep at it as much as possible. shawna.

Re: Swimming

> Hi folks,

>

> I just wanted to brag about Rochelle and her swimming again...Hope you

don't mind. She is in the deep water constantly doing back and forward

summersalts, handstands, splits and twisty things and I am so proud of her.

This is really a strength for her and I think it is helping her verbally as

well.

>

> Of course, I haven't pursued all the things I was going to do this summer.

I was going to do the straw therapy and the Bechman (sp?) exercises for her

face. And, going to panties for potty training. Nothing has been done. We

did do the ballet and will continue for the next year weekly. She has

started to say small and big which she learned in ballet. We cut the time

down because of not getting the grant. But, she seems to like it. It is one

on one.

>

> But, Rochelle is queen of the pool. All the lifeguards watch her and the

kids do too! She just never stops from going under that water. She swims

better then me now. All self taught. I don't think she would ever follow

directions or try to win a race but she sure has fun. Still not talking to

much.

>

> Oh, one more thing. Some parents are trying to start a Charter school in

our area. It is very exciting. It will just be for Autism. I am reading the

proposal today. If approved it could open as soon as next fall of 2004. ABA

is the method they will be implementing the most with one on one teaching

for early learners. I'll keep you informed. It will cost nothing to the

parents.

>

> I've been reading posts but by the time I get through them I have no time

to write. Welcome to all newcomers. This is the first week we don't have

some kind of school.

> Diane

> (mom to Rochelle 7-ds/asd/celiac and Danny 9-ld/asd/ocd/add.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Diane,

Love your brags on Rochelle. Just awesome. What news on the Charter

school. That is excellent news! Fingers that things will work out.

Take care and hugs!

Irma,15,DS/ASD