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It seems swimming is really the way to go to prevent any more injury to our

already aching bodies. No stress on joints. That's great that you've lost so

much by swimming. I sure hope I can convince myself to go to the pool.

Take Care,

B. in TEXAS

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From: lisa thompson <bluejeans412003@...>

Stimulator

Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 4:13:42 PM

Subject: swimming

Before I got my stem I wasnt able to swim,, the water hurt me so bad,, even

taking a shower hurt,, the water felt like hot BB's hitting me.. But since my

stem I try to swim at the Y just about every day. I have lost about 45 lbs so

far,, I have a long way to go.. But swimming really seems to help my pain... My

feet even have a little movement since Ive started...

soft hugs

T

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Hang onto the side and lower yourself, bending your knees...up and down

10-20 times. If you can sit on a step, you can sit and get up 10-20 times.

Walk in waist deep water forward in a straight line, then backwards in a

straight line. You can use a noodle for balance if you need to. March slowly

in water, like walking except you raise your knees higher...back and forth a

couple of times the width of the pool about waist deep in water. That's what

I can remember off hand. Oh, make circles with your calves-from the knee

joint, one way then the other way 10-20 rotations per leg. You can do the

same with your ankles and your hips.

Once you get your insurance, you can ask your doctor to send you for

water/pool therapy until your surgery date. These exercises are all done in

knee water therapy. I went through water therapy for about 15 weeks at a

time. I went 3 different times in the past years for my knees. The exercises

are great after the incisions have healed as well. You can go for water

therapy then too. Mine have gotten much better since I have been able to

exercise in my pool this summer. I do them in my hot tub too, but there

isn't as much room, so I have to alter them to do them while sitting.

Chrissie

To those who believe, no explanation is necessary; to those who dont, no

explanation is possible

Swimming

Hi,

I've been reading all the posts and have learned a lot. I don't know if this

question has ever been asked. I'm not scheduled for any surgery but I do

need knee replacement. But with no health insurance, I have to wait. In the

mean time I need to exercise to strengthen my knees. There is an excellent

pool at our local high school. It's currently being renovated. I want to

know if there are any strength training exercises I can do in the pool when

it opens again.

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Our rehab center has a warm water pool so I scheduled a physical therapy

session at the pool. The therapist explained all the exercises and later

gave me a handout so I could work out by myself during the open pool

sessions. Most of the exercises are the same thing I've done on land

(usually laying down on the bed.) You might try this idea or sign up for an

arthritis swim class at the YMCA.

TKR July 20, 2009

From: Joint Replacement

[mailto:Joint Replacement ] On Behalf Of shihtzumom

Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:40 PM

Joint Replacement

Subject: RE: Swimming

Hang onto the side and lower yourself, bending your knees...up and down

10-20 times. If you can sit on a step, you can sit and get up 10-20 times.

Walk in waist deep water forward in a straight line, then backwards in a

straight line. You can use a noodle for balance if you need to. March slowly

in water, like walking except you raise your knees higher...back and forth a

couple of times the width of the pool about waist deep in water. That's what

I can remember off hand. Oh, make circles with your calves-from the knee

joint, one way then the other way 10-20 rotations per leg. You can do the

same with your ankles and your hips.

Once you get your insurance, you can ask your doctor to send you for

water/pool therapy until your surgery date. These exercises are all done in

knee water therapy. I went through water therapy for about 15 weeks at a

time. I went 3 different times in the past years for my knees. The exercises

are great after the incisions have healed as well. You can go for water

therapy then too. Mine have gotten much better since I have been able to

exercise in my pool this summer. I do them in my hot tub too, but there

isn't as much room, so I have to alter them to do them while sitting.

Chrissie

To those who believe, no explanation is necessary; to those who dont, no

explanation is possible

Swimming

Hi,

I've been reading all the posts and have learned a lot. I don't know if this

question has ever been asked. I'm not scheduled for any surgery but I do

need knee replacement. But with no health insurance, I have to wait. In the

mean time I need to exercise to strengthen my knees. There is an excellent

pool at our local high school. It's currently being renovated. I want to

know if there are any strength training exercises I can do in the pool when

it opens again.

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IN WAIST DEEP WATER:

1. concentrate on spending the same amount of time on each foot. Counting to

yourself or marching in time to music will help. Walk forward.

2. In the same way, walk backward.

3. Move one hip and one leg out to the side and then bring the other toward the

first, alternate leading with each side. Basically, walking sideways.

4. Walk forward by lifting your knees as high as possible.

5. Walk forward by taking progressively larger and longer steps. This works best

in shallow water.

6. On your toes, walk forward, backward, and sideways.

7. Stand on your 'bad' leg in chest deep water and swing the opposite leg

forward and back against the resistance of the water.

8. Stand on your 'good' leg, and 'kick' an imaginary ball with your 'bad' leg.

Exaggerate the motion of the kick, both forward and backward.

9. Jump up and then land with both feet apart, and then jump up and land with

both feet together...jumping jacks.

10. Scissor kick one leg forward while the other leg goes backward. Repeat in

the opposite direction.

With each of these, start slowly and deliberately, concentrating on trying to

walk with good form. Then progressively walk faster against the resistance of

the water to increase your strength.

IN CHEST DEEP WATER:

1. Practise marching in place, but exaggerate bringing your knees up as high as

you can.

2. Jump up and down.

3. Jump up and down, but this time, bring your knees as high as possible with

each jump.

4. " Run " in place.

5. Hop from side to side over the lane line on the bottom of the pool, starting

with both legs. Progress to hopping on just the 'bad' leg.

6. Hop forward and backward over the lane line on the bottom of the pool,

starting with both legs. Progress to hopping on just the 'bad' leg.

Hope this helps. It comes from the book " Total Knee Replacement and

Rehabilitation "

Chris

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A word of caution: don't do any impact activities for several months after

surgery. In my aqua therapy class, we are moved to the deep end for the

jumping jacks, scissor kicks, etc. At 5' I can still do these exercises

holding onto a pool noodle. On land or in water you should not be placing

any stress on the surgical leg.

Also, take it easy in the beginning. Because the water makes you seem

weightless you don't realize how hard you are working.

TKR 7/20/09

(1 week into aqua therapy and a bit sore.)

From: Joint Replacement

[mailto:Joint Replacement ] On Behalf Of clcjames

Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 10:12 PM

Joint Replacement

Subject: Re: Swimming

IN WAIST DEEP WATER:

1. concentrate on spending the same amount of time on each foot. Counting to

yourself or marching in time to music will help. Walk forward.

2. In the same way, walk backward.

3. Move one hip and one leg out to the side and then bring the other toward

the first, alternate leading with each side. Basically, walking sideways.

4. Walk forward by lifting your knees as high as possible.

5. Walk forward by taking progressively larger and longer steps. This works

best in shallow water.

6. On your toes, walk forward, backward, and sideways.

7. Stand on your 'bad' leg in chest deep water and swing the opposite leg

forward and back against the resistance of the water.

8. Stand on your 'good' leg, and 'kick' an imaginary ball with your 'bad'

leg. Exaggerate the motion of the kick, both forward and backward.

9. Jump up and then land with both feet apart, and then jump up and land

with both feet together...jumping jacks.

10. Scissor kick one leg forward while the other leg goes backward. Repeat

in the opposite direction.

With each of these, start slowly and deliberately, concentrating on trying

to walk with good form. Then progressively walk faster against the

resistance of the water to increase your strength.

IN CHEST DEEP WATER:

1. Practise marching in place, but exaggerate bringing your knees up as high

as you can.

2. Jump up and down.

3. Jump up and down, but this time, bring your knees as high as possible

with each jump.

4. " Run " in place.

5. Hop from side to side over the lane line on the bottom of the pool,

starting with both legs. Progress to hopping on just the 'bad' leg.

6. Hop forward and backward over the lane line on the bottom of the pool,

starting with both legs. Progress to hopping on just the 'bad' leg.

Hope this helps. It comes from the book " Total Knee Replacement and

Rehabilitation "

Chris

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Thanks for everyone's suggestions. I will definately look into doing these

exercises when the time comes. The pool is not open yet.

Barbara

SW PA

> IN WAIST DEEP WATER:

> 1. concentrate on spending the same amount of time on each foot. Counting to

yourself or marching in time to music will help. Walk forward.

> 2. In the same way, walk backward.

> 3. Move one hip and one leg out to the side and then bring the other toward

the first, alternate leading with each side. Basically, walking sideways.

> 4. Walk forward by lifting your knees as high as possible.

> 5. Walk forward by taking progressively larger and longer steps. This works

best in shallow water.

> 6. On your toes, walk forward, backward, and sideways.

> 7. Stand on your 'bad' leg in chest deep water and swing the opposite leg

forward and back against the resistance of the water.

> 8. Stand on your 'good' leg, and 'kick' an imaginary ball with your 'bad' leg.

Exaggerate the motion of the kick, both forward and backward.

> 9. Jump up and then land with both feet apart, and then jump up and land with

both feet together...jumping jacks.

> 10. Scissor kick one leg forward while the other leg goes backward. Repeat in

the opposite direction.

> With each of these, start slowly and deliberately, concentrating on trying to

walk with good form. Then progressively walk faster against the resistance of

the water to increase your strength.

> IN CHEST DEEP WATER:

> 1. Practise marching in place, but exaggerate bringing your knees up as high

as you can.

> 2. Jump up and down.

> 3. Jump up and down, but this time, bring your knees as high as possible with

each jump.

> 4. " Run " in place.

> 5. Hop from side to side over the lane line on the bottom of the pool,

starting with both legs. Progress to hopping on just the 'bad' leg.

> 6. Hop forward and backward over the lane line on the bottom of the pool,

starting with both legs. Progress to hopping on just the 'bad' leg.

> Hope this helps. It comes from the book " Total Knee Replacement and

Rehabilitation "

> Chris

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Did you go swimming in a clean beach in the sea or in a swimming pool?

 

I had just done a google search and it looks like some of the chemicals used to

purify the water in most swimming pools might be a trigger for some people. Also

people with epilepsy need to get enough rest at night as tiredness or stress can

also be a trigger.

 

http://www.epilepsy.com/discussion/971936

 However I think that it is very dangerous for people with epilepsy to go

swimming because of the risk of having a seizure while they are swimming. Unless

they swim with a very competent swimmer next to them , do not dive and do not

swim too far so they can easily be taken out in an emergency. I think that

diving would be too dangerous for someone who have a seizure disorder.

From: Gatchalian <lgatchi@...>

Subject: [ ] swimming

Date: Tuesday, 23 March, 2010, 3:07

 

hi!

did anyone experience a seizure before taking a dip in a pool or beach?

i was just wondering çause i had a severe one last march 17 and the day after i

went out swimming with my kid. i don't know if it was a sound decision.

thanks.

louie g.

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If it uses copper you might want to balance with zinc somehow...

but this is just theoretical, so be careful. Maybe also some ALA

or RLA would help.

Bill

On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 4:47 AM, <paulpjc@...> wrote:

>

>

> Here is a question, I love to go swimming as part of my new ever increasing

>

> fitness regime, but what I have noticed about one particular pool is that

> the next day I feel and look pretty rough, an irritated nose is one this

> but general malaise is of more concern. I found out that the pool I use has

>

> a new filtration system that relies on the water being dosed up with copper

>

> and various minerals, probably getting on for nano sizes ? I wonder if

> the water is reacting with my large amalgam filling or just generally

> overdosing me with the latter plus the voltage of the water in general. If

> I only

> stay for 30mins I am best but for 1hr I really feel the effects next day ?

> The pool water system is known as Poolsan I think

>

>

>

> puk

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The chemicals they put in swimming pools are pretty unhealthy, so

it might be more than just copper.

I've long suspected copper toxicity in my own case, just based

on my symptoms and sensitivities. Lab tests haven't backed

that up, but heavy metal lab tests are known to be wrong.

Supplementing with zinc or molybdenum might be helpful for copper

toxicity, also if you are sensitive to the chlorine in the pool,

I think taurine is supposed to be good for that.

Marc

P.S. if you're really lucky, you might have a local pool

sterilized by ozone or a natural salt-water pool.

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A few days prior to my sons 2nd seizure we were at a swimming party at a rec

center, at the rest period when he got out of the pool he was shaking/shivering

so badly that I thought he was going to have a seizure. It was very scary. My

husband said it was just cold when you were out of the water (I didn't go in)

but none of the other kids were shaking like that.

>

> hi!

>

> did anyone experience a seizure before taking a dip in a pool or beach?

>

> i was just wondering çause i had a severe one last march 17 and the day after

i went out swimming with my kid. i don't know if it was a sound decision.

>

> thanks.

>

> louie g.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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My son has had two seizures while in a pool. I was convinced the pool

caused the seizures but he has had others while out of the pool now also.

Kim

In a message dated 4/15/2010 8:40:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

lkmcr@... writes:

A few days prior to my sons 2nd seizure we were at a swimming party at a

rec center, at the rest period when he got out of the pool he was

shaking/shivering so badly that I thought he was going to have a seizure. It

was very

scary. My husband said it was just cold when you were out of the water (I

didn't go in) but none of the other kids were shaking like that.

>

> hi!

>

> did anyone experience a seizure before taking a dip in a pool or beach?

>

> i was just wondering çause i had a severe one last march 17 and the day

after i went out swimming with my kid. i don't know if it was a sound

decision.

>

> thanks.

>

> louie g.

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

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My son cannot swim in a public swimming pools because of the chlorine, he has

seizures everytime. We have a salt water pool, however we still have to be

careful of the chlorine.

> >

> > hi!

> >

> > did anyone experience a seizure before taking a dip in a pool or beach?

> >

> > i was just wondering çause i had a severe one last march 17 and the day

after i went out swimming with my kid. i don't know if it was a sound decision.

> >

> > thanks.

> >

> > louie g.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hello Bee

I have been swimming for 17 years now, a mile three times a week

I am currently 8 weeks into the diet.

4 weeks in I broke into a sever itchy rash which is still full blown and my

whole body is covered in open wounds due to my violent scratching.

I stopped swimming and realize that I can not go back to my beloved sport at

least until my skin relaxes somewhat.

My question: Do you think I will be able to go back to swimming, or is this a

big no for ever due to the huge chlorine exposure.

Is it possible that once my body gets stronger it might be able to detox the

chlorine and maintain health (if I go back to swimming?).

I will add that my dark brown hair now has red highlights, could it be copper my

body is releasing in an attempt to get rid of chlorine?

I am also suffering from mercury poising due to 11 fillings that I've had in my

mouth for some 25 years ( I finally got rid of all my fillings 4 month ago)

Thank you

Juno

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>

> Hello Bee

>

> I have been swimming for 17 years now, a mile three times a week

> I am currently 8 weeks into the diet.

> 4 weeks in I broke into a sever itchy rash which is still full blown and my

whole body is covered in open wounds due to my violent scratching.

> I stopped swimming and realize that I can not go back to my beloved sport at

least until my skin relaxes somewhat.

> My question: Do you think I will be able to go back to swimming, or is this a

big no for ever due to the huge chlorine exposure.

> Is it possible that once my body gets stronger it might be able to detox the

chlorine and maintain health (if I go back to swimming?).

>

> I will add that my dark brown hair now has red highlights, could it be copper

my body is releasing in an attempt to get rid of chlorine?

>

> I am also suffering from mercury poising due to 11 fillings that I've had in

my mouth for some 25 years ( I finally got rid of all my fillings 4 month ago)

+++Hi Juno,

Swimming is such a wonderful healthy thing to do if you are not obtaining

toxins. The reason your body got more severe rashes, itching, etc. is because

it became capable of detoxifying itself, which is definitely a sign you are

progressing like you should.

Yes, as your body does most of the detoxifying it needs to do that create more

severe symptoms and reactions, it will be able to get rid of toxins more

efficiently in future.

For example, when I was on my candida program in 1985 I had to live with my

daughter and grandson since I had to be on welfare and could not work.

She had a dog, Salem, and whenever my skin connected with the dog I got severe

rashes that oozed and itched horribly. All Salem had to do was wag her tail

gently against my leg and I would react!

I would also get migraine headaches being around cats.

After getting healthy I didn't react to any contact with dogs or cats nor even

when I swam in a chlorinated pool.

Did you read somewhere that red highlights in your hair indicates copper is

being released to get rid of chlorine? If you did, I'd be interested in that

information.

That's good you don't have mercury fillings any longer.

All the best, Bee

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