Guest guest Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 > > Hi, I posted a week ago about my dog having terrible skin problems - he was diagnosed with malasezzia pachydermatitis and enterococcus, after being on antibiotics for 33 days and Ketoconazole ( which I was terrified giving him) he was on the ketoconazole for 22 days, he is now off all meds. The dermatologist wants him on everything for 60 days, but the internist felt he had enough of the antibiotics, and that I could stop the ketoconazole, and re-start if I had to. Ive changed his diet, and have been trying to incorporate supplements, and changing things that may have caused his skin to flare up. I was worried about giving the ketoconazole, but now Im worried that Im not. Any advice on this medication? I had his blood tested, and thank goodness its okay 2 thinks were a little high on the liver and potassium. +++Hi Barb, Your dog's skin will flare up while his body is healing itself, just like it will in humans. All abnormal skin conditions are because of toxins coming out through the skin. Also his body will " retrace " any and all past health problems and issues as it is healing itself, just like our bodies do - see this article on retracing to understand it: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal10.php The way bodies heal themselves is no different whether they are animals or humans. Ketoconazole is an antifungal drug that is toxic/poisonous to all bodies, including humans and dogs, so giving it to your dog will only make his body react to it as it normally does to any poisons. Also almost ALL antifungals and antibiotics are made from fungi found in the soil, so that is why it is insane to claim they kill off bacteria and fungus/candida. I couldn't find the exact fungal species used to produce ketoconazole since it is a brand name, but here's a reference for Some Examples of Antibiotics (also antifungals) Produced by Actinomycetes Fungi and Bacteria: http://tinyurl.com/42ahbce Also see The Aftermath of Penicillin for more information about antibiotics and antifungals: http://www.botany.hawaii.edu/faculty/wong/BOT135/Lect23.htm The fact is that all bugs of any kind, i.e. bacteria, yeast/candida/fungus, etc. are created within each body independent of any outside influences in order to clean up toxins, just like they are automatically created in soil to clean up a compost heap of garbage, which changes it into nutrient-rich dark soil. The reason bodies create bugs is because the condition of the body is very poor due to lack of proper nutrients, too many toxins, etc. That's why I write that candida/yeast, bacteria, etc. cannot be cured by " killing them off " or by " trying to get rid of them. " It just doesn't work that way. They can only be cured by getting healthy, which is done by: 1) Consuming " proper nutrients " that species of animal requires in order to BE healthy. For dogs it means they must consume all meats and fats from animals since they are carnivores. 2) Eliminating toxins and foods that feed candida (they also feed bacteria and cancer). 3) Eliminating damaging foods. 4) Eliminating toxins in general. When the body becomes healthy enough it will automatically " change " candida (or any bug, cancer, etc.) back into the organism it is supposed to be when the body is healthy. It's like the manure pile and the flies, with the manure pile representing the poor condition of the body. You cannot get rid of the manure pile by killing off the flies. You must clean up the manure pile instead, which means getting healthy according to Nature's Laws on Health. So your dog just need to stay on all meats and fats from animals long enough for his body to heal itself like Nature intended. All the best, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Thank you Bee for your help and explaining everything. The diet is definitely helping and Im sticking to it for both of us. As for the ketoconazole, I feel Im stuck giving it to him until the 28 days are up, he is definitely getting better and its hard to isolate which part of the treatment plan is what worked as they used a shot gun approach changing everything at once. I tried to stop the ketoconazole over the weekend, but the vet said we could be back at square one if I stop too soon. Im not doing the 60 days she originally wanted, Im going with the 28 days and then just hoping his change in diet and strengthening his immune system will keep it from coming back. I wish I didnt start it in the first place, but the yeast had quickly taken over his entire body and they used fear tactics to get me to use it. He really was bad, very quickly, and I didnt think he was going to make it. Thank you again, Barb > +++Hi Barb, > [trimmed by moderator kl] > Ketoconazole is an antifungal drug that is toxic/poisonous to all bodies, including humans and dogs, so giving it to your dog will only make his body react to it as it normally does to any poisons. > > Also almost ALL antifungals and antibiotics are made from fungi found in the soil, so that is why it is insane to claim they kill off bacteria and fungus/candida. I couldn't find the exact fungal species used to produce ketoconazole since it is a brand name, but here's a reference for Some Examples of Antibiotics (also antifungals) Produced by Actinomycetes Fungi and Bacteria: [trimmed by moderator kl] > So your dog just need to stay on all meats and fats from animals long enough for his body to heal itself like Nature intended. > > All the best, Bee > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Barb wrote: > > Thank you Bee for your help and explaining everything. The diet is definitely helping and Im sticking to it for both of us. As for the ketoconazole, I feel Im stuck giving it to him until the 28 days are up, he is definitely getting better and its hard to isolate which part of the treatment plan is what worked as they used a shot gun approach changing everything at once. I tried to stop the ketoconazole over the weekend, but the vet said we could be back at square one if I stop too soon. [trim] > > > > > Ketoconazole is an antifungal drug that is toxic/poisonous to all bodies, including humans and dogs, so giving it to your dog will only make his body react to it as it normally does to any poisons. > > [trimmed] > > So your dog just need to stay on all meats and fats from animals long enough for his body to heal itself like Nature intended. > > *** Barb - I would read again what Bee wrote about the antifungals and trust in her judgement. " Fear " is how " they " like to keep us under control. All the best... , moderator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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