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Water, water, water. The body deprioritizes externals for internals when dehydration presents.

Hydration helps just about everything.

I have also seen hair loss in an older woman beginning a raw food diet. Good whey protein resolved that one and, although not raw, is cleaner and more digestible than meat.

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does, or, where can one get Dr. Bourne’s protocol for alopecia?

Anne Barker

hair loss

Several clients have inquired as to how effective the QXCI is in

addressing hair loss. And I, honestly, don't know. Can anyone help?

Clients are post-menopausal; lost hair during menopause and have

continued to do so, years later; are in their 60's and in fairly good

health. I am aware of a thyroid connection, but they offer no sx's or

complaints.

Can anyone provide direction, or some insights, on how/where to

address this issue. I remain most appreciative your help and your

interest.

Anne Zipkes

Hot Springs, AR

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Hi Anne,

If you have not already received answers, send a mail to me at sven-l@... with your personal mail address and I will contact you directly.

Sven

RE: hair loss

How does, or, where can one get Dr. Bourne’s protocol for alopecia?

Anne Barker

-----Original Message-----From: qxci-english [mailto:qxci-english ] On Behalf Of aurelieSent: Monday, November 12, 2007 9:08 AMqxci-english Subject: RE: hair loss

Try this product!http://amalakitreeoflife.com/vibrantenergy/rosalia mariz <aliamar2003 > wrote:

hair loss is tied to Insulin resistance Phil Punt <phil@...> wrote:

Hi Anne,If you have ruled out Hypothyroid (search the QXCI, it certainly can be ahuge stress problem. I have helped women with hair loss regain it byaddressing the thyroid. Also, I would refer you to Dr. Alistair Bourne'sprotocol for Alopecia.Phil-----Original Message-----From: qxci-english [mailto:qxci-english ]On Behalf Of annezipkesSent: Friday, November 02, 2007 8:23 AMqxci-english Subject: hair lossSeveral clients have inquired as to how effective the QXCI is inaddressing hair loss. And I, honestly, don't know. Can anyone help?Clients are post-menopausal; lost hair during menopause and havecontinued to do so, years later; are in their 60's and in fairly goodhealth. I am aware of a thyroid connection, but they offer no sx's orcomplaints.Can anyone provide direction, or some insights, on how/where toaddress this issue. I remain most appreciative your help and yourinterest.Anne ZipkesHot Springs, AR............................................

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Sulphur foods reduce the effectiveness of the adrenal glands: onions, scallions - spring onions, garlic and leeks. The hair loss is usually due to 1. either low adrenals or 2. low thyroid or 3. low protein and oils in diet. So concluding that high sulphur reduces adrenals may mean a higher thyroid balance. Bye Sue

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I would think about getting her pH reading on the right track; and that's a lot of work to do. I f you didnot do this already: getting her off of coffee, excess meat etc. and increase vegetables, esp. the raw ones would do much good. Not for the diet perse , but the patient has to learn to accept things instead of fighting against them. Looks like much hormonal work, but besides that all: donot forget the Magnesium, magnesium.

Hope this helps.

Noel,

hair loss

I have been treating a client who continues to have hair loss and vaginalpain. Her father was not nice to her or her mother growing up, but she hascome to terms with that. She is also obsessed with germs and is alwayswanting to use the hand sanitizers. She started to massively lose her hairabout 8 months ago. She had trouble seeing with her left eye and was havinghemmorrhoid problems. She also had cold feet and hands (always cold),restless legs, leg spasms, headaches on the top of head and eyebrow,persistant sore throats, lump in the throat, dizzy, itchy skin, fatigue,constipation, night sweats, claustrophobic, anxiety and was fearful. I alsoam a cranial therapist and she had alot of restrictions as well as a veryweak aura field. She has had her house balanced for electromagnetic energiesand she eats a very healthy diet. Her mother is a dentist so she has hadseveral flouride treatments so I have tried to

treat her for that. Prior tome, they were working with someone who sold them about a 100 homeopathicsthat she took. He had her on about 18 at a time. Since I started treatingher, all her numbers have improved and she feels much lighter. Most of theother symptoms are gone but she continues to lose alot of hair and have thevaginal pain. She has also had some medical tests and they come back normal.We did alot of emotional clearing and I started out having her on colonstat,gastropar, graviola, Gluco-H and Vit E, I have treated the livergallbladder, spleen, pancreas, thyroid and kidneys with supplements and theSCIO. Presently I have her on Cataplex C, iodine, parotid, trace minerals,black strap molasses, flax oil, extra virgin olive oil, sea salt and lemonwater. Does someone have suggestions on other things to try with her orideas why the hair continues to fall out and she continues to have the pain.Thanks

in advance.

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Hi - I strongly feel the woman is subclinical low thyroid. She has

MANY of the symptoms, plus hormonal issues, especially thyroid, are

common with children who have experienced abuse. Most often even

when a progressive doctor puts someone on thyroid, they undermedicate

them or put them on synthetic, and they still continue to have

symptoms. The floride treatments probably made her situation much

worse! Check out www.nutri-meds.com. They have whole thyroid

glandulars, with active constituents, some T3 and T4. I recommend

the Porcine, as their system is more like ours than the Bovine.

However, everyone is different, so you never know.

Also, I'm sure you know that adrenal function affects thyroid.

Iodoral is also a possibility. Iodine, herbs, regular glandulars,

energy work did not do it for me. I take T3 and well as T4. If her

thyroid is compromised, raw food is probably difficult for her. Make

sure she is not taking in any of the halogens, chlorine, floride, etc.

For magnesium, Natural Calm at night, as well as Ancient Minerals,

which is topical magnesium, have helped me tremendously.

DG

>

> I would think about getting her pH reading on the right track; and

that's a lot of work to do. I f you didnot do this already: getting

her off of coffee, excess meat etc. and increase vegetables, esp. the

raw ones would do much good. Not for the diet perse , but the patient

has to learn to accept things instead of fighting against them. 

Looks like much hormonal work, but besides that all: donot forget the

Magnesium, magnesium.

> Hope this helps.

> Noel,

>

>

>

> hair loss

>

>

> I have been treating a client who continues to have hair loss and

vaginal

> pain. Her father was not nice to her or her mother growing up, but

she has

> come to terms with that. She is also obsessed with germs and is

always

> wanting to use the hand sanitizers. She started to massively lose

her hair

> about 8 months ago. She had trouble seeing with her left eye and

was having

> hemmorrhoid problems. She also had cold feet and hands (always

cold),

> restless legs, leg spasms, headaches on the top of head and eyebrow,

> persistant sore throats, lump in the throat, dizzy, itchy skin,

fatigue,

> constipation, night sweats, claustrophobic, anxiety and was

fearful. I also

> am a cranial therapist and she had alot of restrictions as well as

a very

> weak aura field. She has had her house balanced for electromagnetic

energies

> and she eats a very healthy diet. Her mother is a dentist so she

has had

> several flouride treatments so I have tried to treat her for that.

Prior to

> me, they were working with someone who sold them about a 100

homeopathics

> that she took. He had her on about 18 at a time. Since I started

treating

> her, all her numbers have improved and she feels much lighter. Most

of the

> other symptoms are gone but she continues to lose alot of hair and

have the

> vaginal pain. She has also had some medical tests and they come

back normal.

> We did alot of emotional clearing and I started out having her on

colonstat,

> gastropar, graviola, Gluco-H and Vit E, I have treated the liver

> gallbladder, spleen, pancreas, thyroid and kidneys with supplements

and the

> SCIO. Presently I have her on Cataplex C, iodine, parotid, trace

minerals,

> black strap molasses, flax oil, extra virgin olive oil, sea salt

and lemon

> water. Does someone have suggestions on other things to try with

her or

> ideas why the hair continues to fall out and she continues to have

the pain.

> Thanks in advance.

>

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Hello,

As i read the persons symptoms list it is quite clear to me that a high

metabolic acidity is

playing a major role here. Hair loss - cold hand and cold feet - restless leg &

spasm are

all directly related to a total acidity..

If you have the ability to measure her with the EIS from ldteck.com you will see

her total

body water and the pH value of the interstitial fluids...

These will probably need some corrections..

Hope this helps you

Yves

>

> I have been treating a client who continues to have hair loss and vaginal

> pain. Her father was not nice to her or her mother growing up, but she has

> come to terms with that. She is also obsessed with germs and is always

> wanting to use the hand sanitizers. She started to massively lose her hair

> about 8 months ago. She had trouble seeing with her left eye and was having

> hemmorrhoid problems. She also had cold feet and hands (always cold),

> restless legs, leg spasms, headaches on the top of head and eyebrow,

> persistant sore throats, lump in the throat, dizzy, itchy skin, fatigue,

> constipation,night sweats, claustrophobic, anxiety and was fearful. I also

> am a cranial therapist and she had alot of restrictions as well as a very

> weak aura field. She has had her house balanced for electromagnetic energies

> and she eats a very healthy diet. Her mother is a dentist so she has had

> several flouride treatments so I have tried to treat her for that. Prior to

> me, they were working with someone who sold them about a 100 homeopathics

> that she took. He had her on about 18 at a time. Since I started treating

> her, all her numbers have improved and she feels much lighter. Most of the

> other symptoms are gone but she continues to lose alot of hair and have the

> vaginal pain. She has also had some medical tests and they come back normal.

> We did alot of emotional clearing and I started out having her on colonstat,

> gastropar, graviola, Gluco-H and Vit E, I have treated the liver

> gallbladder, spleen, pancreas, thyroid and kidneys with supplements and the

> SCIO. Presently I have her on Cataplex C, iodine, parotid, trace minerals,

> black strap molasses, flax oil, extra virgin olive oil, sea salt and lemon

> water. Does someone have suggestions on other things to try with her or

> ideas why the hair continues to fall out and she continues to have the pain.

> Thanks in advance.

>

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Jen...I must be honest, I didn't read all this. I see that this topic is a passion for you, good for you! I'm sure Dr. G will enjoy the education.Tell Dr. Gutierrez hi for me!

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:11 PM, jen norwood <JenNorwood@...> wrote:

Bipley, I will contact Dr. G, as he did my anesthesia as well. Actually, my boyfriend since he was a fellow anesthesiologist was asked my Dr. A and Dr. G to come hang out in the OR. He did...and actually started my IV as they were unable to get it. He watched my entire procedure from the head of the bed with Dr. G discussing at length anesthesia techniques and nuances. He then watched two sleeves after my surgery. He felt the care there was superior. I will let Dr. G know of our little discussion and ask if he has access to a study that we do not have, or if his opinion is strictly clinically based. I guess I can do this through Nina.

I believe he used a combination of a propofol dip and Remifentanyl for my case. (I believe he used Remifentanyl instead of Sufentanil due to the shorter half life of Remi--as it is more advantageous for shorter cases. )The cause of the change from volatile anesthesia gas was due to the incidence of post

operative nausea and vomiting. (PONV) The biggest offenders for PONV are N2O (nitrous oxide--laughing gas as in the dentist office--but in much higher MAC concentrations) and volatile anesthetic gases...as in Sevoflurane, Desflurane, Isoflurane or much less used Haloflurane. PONV is actually rated higher in patient dissatisfaction surveys than post operative pain. Seems as people really hate to barf. Even more so with any gastric procedure...the last thing anyone wants for a multitude of reasons is retching/puking. That is why the switch to what we call a TIVA anesthetic. TIVA stands for TOTAL INTRAVENOUS ANESTHETIC. It is very expensive, as gas is cheaper, but has great success in avoiding PONV.

I do find it interesting though you mentioned he made this switch over 6 months ago and he is no longer utilizing volatile gas....the one you say he attributed to hair loss...yet people on this site have had their surgery since then and are STILL

suffering hair loss. (myself included) Hmm...I guess we could now start blaming the narcotics or even the propofol since you insist it is caused by a combination of " anesthesia and other things " . Gotta love it when other people argue your point for you.

For those of you who rushed to Bipley's aid..with the " well said Bipley " and the " why can't you " ....the reason is simple. I spent the large part of my adult life studying the drugs encompassed under the term 'anesthesia " . I am a specialist. I read journals during vacations when I would rather be reading Jodi Piccoult novels. I attend conferences several times a year to stay abreast in the recent literature and research when I would rather spend the weekend home alone with my son. Why? So when your world comes to a screeching halt, either because you need surgery or God forbid your child needs surgery...you will be safe and in the best hands you could be in. So I can look you in

the eyes and tell you with all sincerity that I know what I am talking about....and I will take care of you like you are family. I do not know why you find it so hard to believe that I am passionate about it...I am because it is my life's work.

It is not like I questioned Bipley on something I do not hold a PHD in. I have never claimed to be a specialist in any area other than anesthesia, not nutrition, not exercise or anything else. I simply told her that I sincerely believed she was incorrect and if she had actual scientific proof of what she was claiming I would be THRILLED to get my hands on it. Yet she will not, can not and shall not..........BECAUSE she is uneducated on the subject. She just has to be right on this...even in the face of absolute proof she is not. Not to mention she has not had a formal class one on the subject....yet she is

the guru. Yet you guys continue to hail praise for her. Unreal. Maybe she could sell you some ocean front property in Arizona too. I heard she read it one day 1.5 years ago while doing 'research " and other reputable sources tell her that it actually exists.

I want to thank the individuals out there who emailed me directly is support of my disagreeing with Bipley. It is sad to me that people do not feel free to speak their mind openly on this site for fear of (GASP) upsetting dear Bipley. It kind of reminds me of elementary school and the grade school bully who has her little entourage. Wake up people. She is a nurse. Smart in some areas, obviously off the mark in others. Last I checked she does not walk on water, oh wait she may have done " some research " on that too.

I have been on this site for a while. Rarely do I post, as I do not feel qualified to answer most questions. I simply read for learning purposes. The only time I really

speak up happened to be for something I consider myself quite qualified to do....and BAM.....I am the outcast because the sainted Bipley did not concur. I have seen others railroaded off this site because of her..and said nothing as it was not my business. But now I GET IT. Hang around long enough and you will see it too. I am not the first, nor will I be the last.

For those of you who are sick of the bullshit and do not feel free to post what you think....there is another support group for you out there. The lead educator is a published author regarding WLS and is honest, to the point and does not feel the need to be an expert in areas she is not. The site is a bandster website but they are supportive of all WLS and even people who are doing weight watchers and still deciding about surgery. The group is called smartbandsters@.... I am sure they would welcome one and all.

Best of luck to each one of you out there. I hope those of you in the deciding process make informed, educated decisions that feel " right " in your gut. I have enjoyed the personal correspondence I have had. Please feel free to keep my email. Keep up the good work and success.

With all due respect,

jen

From: suzanne.hinshaw <SuzanneSH@...>Subject: Hair Loss

Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 9:34 AM

Hi Everyone,I find it amazing that Hair Loss has had so much attention. Honestly I have enjoyed everyone's opinions and knowledge. It seems that some people always feel the need to set the world right. I value Bipley's

opinion and all of her support that she has given everyone including myself. On the other hand, I have also received a great deal of support from so many of you on this site--thanks so much for it when I needed it. Now Bipley said it didn't matter what you did, it

wouldn't stop the hair loss. So does that mean I have to believe it? It means that with her knowledge that is what she feels is right, while Jen feels with her knowledge what she say's is also right. So as an educated person I will form my own opinion on what

is right for ME. They always say get more than one opinion when seeing a doctor if you want. It seems like many people on this site are threatned by smart

educated people. Not me--I love what everyone has to say and I take it all in and form my own opinion and use it to better myself. I think we have all learned a great deal about our sleeve or band from this site Yeah!

This has been a great site for education, support and very caring people. I see great success in many people here and that is very helpful too all of. We will continue to keep posting asking questions and dropping those pounds!

Have a great day,Suzanne

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- is it your experience that coconut oil stops hair loss in women too?

is the method topical or internal or both? thanks.

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 12:12 AM, Bag <@...> wrote:

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> Coconut oil can STOP hair from falling. My entire family can attest to

> this.

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Not 4 me!!! I have to honestly say at this point,after 2 yrs of coconut

oil.,it has done nothing whatesoever!!!! Not a thing!! I take it,I apply

it to skin,hair ect.,nothing,nada,zip!! Deb

--aliano

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Deb, interestingly a big cause of hair loss is drugs, especially statin drugs.

I've seen hair loss improve in days by stopping the statins; the fella's hair

was coming out way too fast and he didn't need statins anyway.

I've also seen hair grow back, and in the right colour too, with an anti-aging

progam. Stands to reason, as hair loss is most frequently associated with aging

when it's not drug-induced.

all good,

Duncan

.

>

> Not 4 me!!! I have to honestly say at this point,after 2 yrs of coconut

> oil.,it has done nothing whatesoever!!!! Not a thing!! I take it,I apply

> it to skin,hair ect.,nothing,nada,zip!! Deb

> --aliano

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Topical application of coconut oil and coconut milk halts the falling hair.

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> >

> >

> > Coconut oil can STOP hair from falling. My entire family can attest to

> > this.

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Debbie,

Hair loss can also be attributed to deficiencies in minerals like tin and

copper.

> >

> > Not 4 me!!! I have to honestly say at this point,after 2 yrs of coconut

> > oil.,it has done nothing whatesoever!!!! Not a thing!! I take it,I apply

> > it to skin,hair ect.,nothing,nada,zip!! Deb

> > --aliano

> >

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Hi there! So we meet again here. [:)]

I'd never heard VCO recommended for hair loss so I'm not surprised it

may work for some and then not others. What worked for me and fast was

Kal's Super Silica Plus MSM, it also has detoxing properties which is a

plus. I learned about it in a hair forum, quite a few people had tried

it to make their hair grow faster and I thought *maybe* it could make

mine regrow and bingo! I think I began seeing the new growth shortly

after starting my 2nd bottle and at that time I only took two. [it also

helps to massage your scalp with your head down to stimulate circulation

while you're taking it.]

At another time I noticed a little thinning I ordered one bottle and it

again did the trick. Two years ago when I saw my sisters who also had

hair loss issues they complimented me on my hair, at the time I'd been

on a full dose of iodine so I also credited it for my " full head of

hair " .

Raquel

>

> Not 4 me!!! I have to honestly say at this point,after 2 yrs of

coconut

> oil.,it has done nothing whatesoever!!!! Not a thing!! I take it,I

apply

> it to skin,hair ect.,nothing,nada,zip!! Deb

> --aliano

>

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> Hi everyone....

> maybe I need just am looking for some support....but I am 37 and just keep

loosing my hair.....

>

> I have to be honest that I not totally on Bee's diet.. still cheat with a

piece of chocolate and cup of coffee here and there...so not sure if this

stopping my healing but my hair just won't stop thinning..

>

> i just don't feel attractive anymore....I know healing is where I want to go

but fudge this is really hard.....

+++Hi Abbie,

Many people who are on my program have successfully reversed their hair loss -

search for hair loss on this page of Success Stories:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/success/index.php

Of course I also stopped losing hair so badly when I did my candida program over

22 years ago.

There's no quick fixes, since healing must come from within, mainly by " proper

nutrients " and eliminating toxins and foods that feed candida, and also

eliminating toxins in general.

All toxins cause problems for every cell in the body too, which is explained in

this article:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/cabout1.php

It is important to follow the program completely, and as consistently as

possible so your body can do all of the healing and detoxifying it needs to do,

which takes time and patience. Also ensure you are taking all of the

supplements and no others.

If you have candida please don't fool around, because the next stage after

candida is cancer.

The best in health, Bee

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> > >

> +++Hi Abbie,

>

> Many people who are on my program have successfully reversed their hair loss -

search for hair loss on this page of Success Stories:

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/success/index.php

>

> Of course I also stopped losing hair so badly when I did my candida program

over 22 years ago.

>

> There's no quick fixes, since healing must come from within, mainly by " proper

nutrients " and eliminating toxins and foods that feed candida, and also

eliminating toxins in general.

>

> All toxins cause problems for every cell in the body too, which is explained

in this article:

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/cabout1.php

>

> It is important to follow the program completely, and as consistently as

possible so your body can do all of the healing and detoxifying it needs to do,

which takes time and patience. Also ensure you are taking all of the

supplements and no others.

>

> If you have candida please don't fool around, because the next stage after

candida is cancer.

>

> The best in health, Bee

>

Hi Bee,

Hear you loud and clear.I read the article and the success stories and will keep

reading them over and over when I am having those rough days. I have already had

cancer (Luekemia) and am a bit nervous about when I start detoxing from the

three rounds of chemo I had and all the other toxins my body was pumped with at

age 22.... so yes I need to not " fool around "

Been taking the supplements as you suggest.

Thank you for your support and knowledge! Keeping you and your family in my

prayers

Abbie

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Hi Judy

Don't put your hopes in Coconut Oil for this. I did and it did not do anything.

The few things I have done that worked is Swanson's Signature Line - The Skin

Pill. If you can afford the price every month, go with that.

swansonvitamins.com It stopped my hair loss in the first week, but after three

months and after the buy-one-get-one sale I had taken advantage of was used up,

I did not buy more. So, naturally, it started falling out again and worse. I

eventually knew my body was just way out of wack and I needed help from a

trained healthcare provider.

Fortunately, for me, the very next thing I tried in this direction, worked. The

next thing I finally knuckled down to do was to start seeing a Neurolink doctor.

He stopped it right away, too. He started my body healing in a lot of ways.

Then once I started the Salt-C protocol, three months later, it decreased my

hair loss even more. That is very comforting to me, especially since I have not

seen anything regrow yet.

It is still holding true, one more month later.

________________________________

From: J Trettel <gnp222@...>

Does anyone think coconut oil can help with hair loss; or know what might

cause it?? My hair is falling out, and I don't like brushing it, as I can

hear/feel it breaking as I brush. I sure don't want to have to buy a wig,

but may have to.

Judy

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Hi Judy,

I suffered major hair loss, on four occasions. Each time was after taking

cod liver oil or, on one occasion, flax seed oil. I think gluten was also

related. I lost most of the hair on my head, and nearly alI my body

hair. Eventually I found out I have/had Hashimoto's, hypothyroidism and

adrenal fatigue. Hair loss is often connected with thyroid problems and

low iron. All my early thyroid tests came back as " normal " and it took

some time and finding good email lists to discover the tests that I actually

needed, such as TPO antibodies and Reverse T3. These showed that I had

significant problems.

Apart from avoiding cod liver oil and gluten, I now take iodine (with

companion nutrients including selenium - don't take it without these), a T3

only hormone replacement and hydrocortisone to support my adrenals -

necessary if you have adrenal fatigue and are taking thyroid hormone. I

also take other supplements such as iron, in addition to the companion

nutrients for iodine.

My hair has grown back well now - it's soft and it's original colour is

growing back. It originally grew back white, then the white changed to

black, and now the black hair is changing the brown and the way I'm going, I

should have my original brown hair with very little white, by the time I'm

50.

I've found the NaturalThyroidHormonesAdrenals group, and the NTHThyroid

group, and the iodine group very helpful. I've also got rid of lots of

other symptoms such as fatigue, dry skin, what hair I had was dry,

peripheral neuropathy, tinnitus, etc. etc.

I think coconut oil helped my thyroid in the past - before I realised I had

problems - but on this occasion it didn't seem to help that much with the

thyroid symptoms - perhaps they'd got too bad.

On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 6:31 AM, J Trettel <gnp222@...> wrote:

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>

> Does anyone think coconut oil can help with hair loss; or know what might

> cause it?? My hair is falling out, and I don't like brushing it, as I can

> hear/feel it breaking as I brush. I sure don't want to have to buy a wig,

> but may have to.

>

> Judy

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Thank you, Lyn. I will check out Swanson first. What is a Neorolink

doctor; something like a naturopath?

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Lyn K <godisbest4me@...> wrote:

>

>

> Hi Judy

>

> Don't put your hopes in Coconut Oil for this. I did and it did not do

> anything.

> The few things I have done that worked is Swanson's Signature Line - The

> Skin

> Pill. If you can afford the price every month, go with that.

> swansonvitamins.com It stopped my hair loss in the first week, but after

> three

> months and after the buy-one-get-one sale I had taken advantage of was used

> up,

> I did not buy more. So, naturally, it started falling out again and worse.

> I

> eventually knew my body was just way out of wack and I needed help from a

> trained healthcare provider.

>

> Fortunately, for me, the very next thing I tried in this direction, worked.

> The

> next thing I finally knuckled down to do was to start seeing a Neurolink

> doctor.

> He stopped it right away, too. He started my body healing in a lot of ways.

>

>

> Then once I started the Salt-C protocol, three months later, it decreased

> my

> hair loss even more. That is very comforting to me, especially since I have

> not

> seen anything regrow yet.

>

> It is still holding true, one more month later.

>

> ________________________________

> From: J Trettel <gnp222@...>

>

>

> Does anyone think coconut oil can help with hair loss; or know what might

> cause it?? My hair is falling out, and I don't like brushing it, as I can

> hear/feel it breaking as I brush. I sure don't want to have to buy a wig,

> but may have to.

>

> Judy

>

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Thanks ; I've lost hair before too; I'm sure that was due to

menopause. This, I've no idea, I am not in good health, and have no docor

now, for lack of insurance. I do suspect thyroid problems, and I know

doctors' don't always do the right tests, but if I can't fix this, guess

I'll have to find a doctor and have some tests done.

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Cochrane <juliemc9@...> wrote:

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>

> Hi Judy,

>

> I suffered major hair loss, on four occasions. Each time was after taking

> cod liver oil or, on one occasion, flax seed oil. I think gluten was also

> related. I lost most of the hair on my head, and nearly alI my body

> hair. Eventually I found out I have/had Hashimoto's, hypothyroidism and

> adrenal fatigue. Hair loss is often connected with thyroid problems and

> low iron. All my early thyroid tests came back as " normal " and it took

> some time and finding good email lists to discover the tests that I

> actually

> needed, such as TPO antibodies and Reverse T3. These showed that I had

> significant problems.

>

> Apart from avoiding cod liver oil and gluten, I now take iodine (with

> companion nutrients including selenium - don't take it without these), a T3

> only hormone replacement and hydrocortisone to support my adrenals -

> necessary if you have adrenal fatigue and are taking thyroid hormone. I

> also take other supplements such as iron, in addition to the companion

> nutrients for iodine.

>

> My hair has grown back well now - it's soft and it's original colour is

> growing back. It originally grew back white, then the white changed to

> black, and now the black hair is changing the brown and the way I'm going,

> I

> should have my original brown hair with very little white, by the time I'm

> 50.

>

> I've found the NaturalThyroidHormonesAdrenals group, and the NTHThyroid

> group, and the iodine group very helpful. I've also got rid of lots of

> other symptoms such as fatigue, dry skin, what hair I had was dry,

> peripheral neuropathy, tinnitus, etc. etc.

>

> I think coconut oil helped my thyroid in the past - before I realised I had

> problems - but on this occasion it didn't seem to help that much with the

> thyroid symptoms - perhaps they'd got too bad.

>

>

>

>

> On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 6:31 AM, J Trettel <gnp222@...> wrote:

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> >

> >

> > Does anyone think coconut oil can help with hair loss; or know what might

> > cause it?? My hair is falling out, and I don't like brushing it, as I can

> > hear/feel it breaking as I brush. I sure don't want to have to buy a wig,

> > but may have to.

> >

> > Judy

> >

>

>

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Last guy I cured of hair loss I only advised on the phone to drop his statin

drugs. I was right. So OK that was a lucky guess; often it's just oxidative

stress, which is a real aging factor. Selenium shampoo like Head N Shoulders or

Selsun Blue might help but not much selenium gets into the impermeable skin, so

a systemic approach is probably better. Undenatured whey and selenium, and

possibly cod-liver oil to improve essential fatty acid levels while you are

rebuilding cell walls.

Rogaine does appear to work in a surprising number of people. I haven't looked

into what's in it.

In the elderly, low HGH is often an issue because HGH is required for growth.

The HGH protocol results in hair growing back in the right colour in about half

of the people.

all good,

Duncan

>

> Does anyone think coconut oil can help with hair loss; or know what might

> cause it?? My hair is falling out, and I don't like brushing it, as I can

> hear/feel it breaking as I brush. I sure don't want to have to buy a wig,

> but may have to.

>

> Judy

>

>

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Everyone of us will have a slightly different opinion and experience

to share.

There are numerous causes for hair loss and many causative/contributing

factors. Alopecia which refers to hair loss comes in different types.

Coconut oil will help indirectly , should it have to do should it have to do

with .

Key areas to look into are :

1. Emotional distress (hair shaft constriction from emotional distress can

cause hair loss). Chronic stress will deplete you from a lot of important

nutrients. Could be linked to #2.

2. Nutritional deficiencies (from poor absorption and assimilation- G.I.

and digestive issues) Could be connected to #1

Mg and D deficiencies are common with hair loss.

Adrenal fatigue-see#3-, hair loss and Mg deficiency are all linked. For

that take 30 minute baths in MgCl2 (Magnesium Chloride) every other day,2-3

cups of flakes in warm unchlorinated water if possible. Best Mg delivery

method!

3. Adrenal issues, fatigue and hair loss is a bit complex to investigate.

Check T3, T4 and rT3 (reverse of T3 - not checked usually and may

contribute to hair loss), estrogen, testosterone(high levels may be

contributing to hair loss). Must have a very comprehensive adrenal/hormonal

test done. Good endocrinologists are kind of rare.

4. Enviromental issues. Chlorine, commercial shampoos, hair dyes,

hair sprays etc,creams and lotions, exposure to chemicals and

toxins-ingested,applied or airborn- could be damaging your hair directly or

indirectly. Check all products you use for offending chemicals-including

natural or organic- in the cosmetics database website, for safety.

You will be shocked with what you'll find!

I do not use shampoo or commercial conditioners anymore.

I pre-condition my hair with a light " gummy' solution of fine fenugreek

powder and water -prepared a day ahead- that I massage gently onto my hair

and scalp, and let it sit for 30 minutes.

For shampooing I alternate- separate days- egg yolks and handmade organic

olive oil soap. After rinsing, for conditioning, I use a little EVCO and

warm water.

The above suggestion by Lyn is very good too.

You can make your own Salt C by mixing 8 parts of ascorbic acid powder with

a good quality real salt like himalayan pink salt.

Use 1-2 grams mixed in water daily- split in 3-4 doses- and shake well each

time. It is a good protocol for different infections (sometimes not

evident or diagnosed yet)

Most beneficial to my opinion though would be the MgCl2 flakes

as results show up fast. The majority of people have a Mg deficiency.

It takes 56 molecules of Mg to process 1 molecule of sugar! No wonder.

Mg is used in over 400 different processes in the body.

Hope this helps. If you need more info-as I have personal experience

and also with family and friends- let me know.

Blessings to all

Nick

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Lyn K <godisbest4me@...> wrote:

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>

> Hi Judy

>

> Don't put your hopes in Coconut Oil for this. I did and it did not do

> anything.

> The few things I have done that worked is Swanson's Signature Line - The

> Skin

> Pill. If you can afford the price every month, go with that.

> swansonvitamins.com It stopped my hair loss in the first week, but after

> three

> months and after the buy-one-get-one sale I had taken advantage of was used

> up,

> I did not buy more. So, naturally, it started falling out again and worse.

> I

> eventually knew my body was just way out of wack and I needed help from a

> trained healthcare provider.

>

> Fortunately, for me, the very next thing I tried in this direction, worked.

> The

> next thing I finally knuckled down to do was to start seeing a Neurolink

> doctor.

> He stopped it right away, too. He started my body healing in a lot of ways.

>

>

> Then once I started the Salt-C protocol, three months later, it decreased

> my

> hair loss even more. That is very comforting to me, especially since I have

> not

> seen anything regrow yet.

>

> It is still holding true, one more month later.

>

> ________________________________

> From: J Trettel <gnp222@...>

>

>

> Does anyone think coconut oil can help with hair loss; or know what might

> cause it?? My hair is falling out, and I don't like brushing it, as I can

> hear/feel it breaking as I brush. I sure don't want to have to buy a wig,

> but may have to.

>

> Judy

>

>

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You need to nourish foundational yin and also blood. What's your diet like?

On 3/19/2011 2:31 PM, J Trettel wrote:

> Does anyone think coconut oil can help with hair loss; or know what might

> cause it?? My hair is falling out, and I don't like brushing it, as I can

> hear/feel it breaking as I brush. I sure don't want to have to buy a wig,

> but may have to.

>

> Judy

>

>

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Black sesame seeds are meant to be very good for this. Also multiforum

polygynum which you can get online.

I saw a Traditional Chinese Dr that helped somewhat, but I think it was

stopping the gluten that made a big difference. He also said that

chicken and beef were important and gave me a herbal mixture that included

the above.

Re. the cod liver oil and flax seed oil - some people find it helps their

hair, but apparently they can affect thyroid function in some people.

If you think you may have thyroid issues (e.g. also fatigue, dry skin, low

body temperatures) there is a very informative site if you google " Stop the

Thyroid Madness " but as someone else mentioned, it is hard wading through

all the tests to have, and then trying to find a dr. willing to do them. I

attempted to find a dr willing to do the right tests for about 10 months,

and did manage to get a couple done, but in the end I saved the money I paid

to have them done privately - very expensive but worth it to get

confirmation of what was wrong and what treatment I needed. If your body

temperature is low, that is meant to be an indication that you have thyroid

problems. It should be be 37 C or 99 F. Mine was very low - in the 33s

to low 35s, but once I found the right treatment it came back up to the high

36s and 37.

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>

> You need to nourish foundational yin and also blood. What's your diet like?

>

> On 3/19/2011 2:31 PM, J Trettel wrote:

> > Does anyone think coconut oil can help with hair loss; or know what might

> > cause it?? My hair is falling out, and I don't like brushing it, as I can

> > hear/feel it breaking as I brush. I sure don't want to have to buy a wig,

> > but may have to.

> >

> > Judy

> >

>

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