Guest guest Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Diane, I alternate charcoal & clay during the week just once in the am. I take the weekend off. It is prescribed by my doc because I have trouble emliminating toxins on my own. I do take lots of suppliments to make sure I get enough nutients. don't know if it could be hurting me but doc thinks not. Loni ------ --------- --------- ---- [...] Homeopathy was the latest thing I tried. I believe it worked, as I noticed great improvements afterwards, tho at the time it hit me like a sledge-hammer. I don't necessarily recommend going this route, btw. I used only one drop/once under my tongue to detox my bone marrow and I was very ill for 6 weeks. (Under a homeopath's direction.) If you should ever try this method, it is best to be in a very low emf environment, be at the top of your game lymphatically and nutritionally, be sugarfree and otherwise stressfree. I don't recommend it otherwise. Also do not try to detox anything but thing and one organ at a time. [...] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 Yes Marc I agree it is hard to know what is stored in the organs. Not a test for that one unfortuneately. Not tolerating the chelators is just an example of the damage to your system I believe. It's a life long journey this detox thing. Loni From: Marc <marc@...> Subject: Re: re: Adrenals/ Evie Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010, 10:49 AM  > Have you had a heavy metal test lately to see where you are? I think > that for some of us the damage could very well be permanent. My lab tests actually aren't too bad for metals lately, but my intolerance to all chelators indicates that I'm still worse off now than most people ever are. Also, I've heard that lab tests tend to normalize long before the problem has actually been resolved. So while the metal content in my hair is pretty good these days, it may not be that great in my brain or liver. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 Hi everyone, In regards to the metal poisoning, what is your theory as to why those of us who have E.S. tend to get it? In regards to what may work I can briefly tell you may own personal story. In the early 1990's I became so ill that I was often too weak to stand up very long. Some days I was in bed most of the day. I was only in my mid-30's and with no health insurance as I was far too sick to work. I was super blessed that a lady who owned a health food store told me I had metal poisoning. I believe she saved my life as I would have never figured that out on my own. At the time I didn't know it was the power tower that I lived near that was making me so ill and she never asked me about it. She just said by my symptoms I most likely had metal poisoning. She sold me some EDTA oral chelation which I took faithfully. As soon as I started on it I started to drink 5 gallons of water daily due to excessive thirst. That gives you some indication of how very toxic I was! I guess I was lucky that I got it right the first time as the EDTA helped so much. Within 6 months I was well enough to stand long enough to go back to teaching part-time. So the EDTA worked well for me. That doesn't mean it will work for everyone. That is what makes it so difficult to know what to do. What works for one person may actually harm another. And when detoxing works we temporarily feel worse and that adds to the confusion. Hope this info helps. I welcome comments on this and wish everyone the best of luck in regaining their health. Cheryl From: Marc <marc@...> Subject: Re: re: Adrenals/ Evie Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010, 10:49 AM  > Have you had a heavy metal test lately to see where you are? I think > that for some of us the damage could very well be permanent. My lab tests actually aren't too bad for metals lately, but my intolerance to all chelators indicates that I'm still worse off now than most people ever are. Also, I've heard that lab tests tend to normalize long before the problem has actually been resolved. So while the metal content in my hair is pretty good these days, it may not be that great in my brain or liver. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 Hi Cheryl, As I started to mention earlier, I'm wondering if it isn't people's heavy metal poisoning, that makes them sensitive to electrosmog. I see others have said a strong immune system is the key factor. I know mercury, and toxins in general, severely disrupt the immune system. I think it works the other way, too, a disrupted immune system cannot detox the body properly. I have heard it said that immunity and toxicity are tightly bound together. EDTA -- my suspicion is that that would be way too strong for me at this point -- toxin load is too high -- but I am getting out of my own area of knowledge here. I'm glad it worked for you! I'm going to talk about these issues some more with my doctor, thanks to this interesting discussion... Best, Sue > > > > From: Marc <marc@...> > > Subject: Re: re: Adrenals/ Evie > > > > Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010, 10:49 AM > > > >  > > > > > Have you had a heavy metal test lately to see where you are? I think > > > that for some of us the damage could very well be permanent. > > > > My lab tests actually aren't too bad for metals lately, but my > > intolerance to all chelators indicates that I'm still worse off > > now than most people ever are. > > > > Also, I've heard that lab tests tend to normalize long before > > the problem has actually been resolved. So while the metal > > content in my hair is pretty good these days, it may not be > > that great in my brain or liver. > > > > Marc > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 > In regards to the metal poisoning, what is your theory as to why those of > us who have E.S. tend to get it? Your question makes it sound like someone gets ES first, then heavy metal poisoning later. I think the most likely scenario is that one gets heavy metal poisoning first, then when the poisoning gets bad enough, one of the symptoms of that poisoning is ES. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 The other thing I thought of is that I heard that electrosmog disrupts the blood-brain barrier. I think that means toxins like heavy metals can cross over into the brain (as well as infections). So it could be a bit of a 2-way street, as well... > > > In regards to the metal poisoning, what is your theory as to why those of > > us who have E.S. tend to get it? > > Your question makes it sound like someone gets ES first, then heavy metal > poisoning later. I think the most likely scenario is that one gets > heavy metal poisoning first, then when the poisoning gets bad > enough, one of the symptoms of that poisoning is ES. > > Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 Hi Sue, Thanks for the quick response. You brought out some interesting ideas. I don't know if my theory on metal poisoning holds water, but here goes. I found out years ago that I had a " negative polarization of the body " . I didn't know at the time that that was most likely caused by living near an electrical power tower. I discovered that the horrible rashes on my hands were from using silverware. Once I switched to plastic utensils the rashes vanished. Apparently my negative polarity caused me to absorb metal ions which are positive. So any metal that I came into contact with was being slowly absorbed into my body. The metal poisoning did have a very negative effect on my immune system, as you mentioned. Before starting the chelation I had severe colds almost daily for 1 1/2 years. That was the first sign that something was terribly wrong with my body. Makes sense? If you are very toxic you may want to start out with just a small dose of whatever you use and work your way up to a larger one. For example, when I first tried 'detoxilean' it said to take 4 per day. I discovered I could only take 1/2 capsule per day or I was too exhausted to function. Later I was able to take more, gradually increasing the dosage. Cheryl From: lolahunt3 <marydelamer@...> Subject: Re: Heavy metals Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010, 11:53 AM  Hi Cheryl, As I started to mention earlier, I'm wondering if it isn't people's heavy metal poisoning, that makes them sensitive to electrosmog. I see others have said a strong immune system is the key factor. I know mercury, and toxins in general, severely disrupt the immune system. I think it works the other way, too, a disrupted immune system cannot detox the body properly. I have heard it said that immunity and toxicity are tightly bound together. EDTA -- my suspicion is that that would be way too strong for me at this point -- toxin load is too high -- but I am getting out of my own area of knowledge here. I'm glad it worked for you! I'm going to talk about these issues some more with my doctor, thanks to this interesting discussion... Best, Sue > > > > From: Marc <marc@...> > > Subject: Re: re: Adrenals/ Evie > > > > Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010, 10:49 AM > > > >  > > > > > Have you had a heavy metal test lately to see where you are? I think > > > that for some of us the damage could very well be permanent. > > > > My lab tests actually aren't too bad for metals lately, but my > > intolerance to all chelators indicates that I'm still worse off > > now than most people ever are. > > > > Also, I've heard that lab tests tend to normalize long before > > the problem has actually been resolved. So while the metal > > content in my hair is pretty good these days, it may not be > > that great in my brain or liver. > > > > Marc > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 Regards tight junction permeabiliton in blood brain barrier, yes it seems that EMF causes metal poisoning. EMF or NaCl or gluten do all open the tight junctions... They've proven that. And once the tjs are opened, they're happy to welcome the toxic/metal stuff! Dietrich Grün has stated that EMF makes the blood clog (also with healthy people): which is probably because the tjs are opened?... When wearing a Bioprotect card the blood doesn't clog... . > > > > > In regards to the metal poisoning, what is your theory as to why those of > > > us who have E.S. tend to get it? > > > > Your question makes it sound like someone gets ES first, then heavy metal > > poisoning later. I think the most likely scenario is that one gets > > heavy metal poisoning first, then when the poisoning gets bad > > enough, one of the symptoms of that poisoning is ES. > > > > Marc > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 NaCl or gluten -- I hadn't heard that -- interesting > > > > > > > In regards to the metal poisoning, what is your theory as to why those of > > > > us who have E.S. tend to get it? > > > > > > Your question makes it sound like someone gets ES first, then heavy metal > > > poisoning later. I think the most likely scenario is that one gets > > > heavy metal poisoning first, then when the poisoning gets bad > > > enough, one of the symptoms of that poisoning is ES. > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 Cheryl, That is fascinating and frightening, about the " negative polarization " and absorbing metals into the body! Grounding the body may be a great thing to do, while I am detoxing. My friend recommended a book titled " Earthing " about grounding the body. I don't know about its quality. Yes, that is my doctor's and my strategy for detoxing -- low and slow -- and gradually building up the dosage as my body gets more and more detoxed. My doctor said that at some point, things will start to snowball, and detoxing will happen quicker and quicker. The process builds. You just consistently go with lower doses until a higher dosage can be tolerated... Green smoothies are my current detox agent of choice. I had had a lot of trouble with binders -- so disruptive, before I would find the right dose, and hard to make 1/27 of a capsule! Though I am also homeless right now, and when more stability comes, I was going to try the 1/27 of a capsule again. But the green smoothies seem a little less harsh and disruptive. -Sue > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Marc <marc@> > > > > > > Subject: Re: re: Adrenals/ Evie > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010, 10:49 AM > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you had a heavy metal test lately to see where you are? I think > > > > > > > that for some of us the damage could very well be permanent. > > > > > > > > > > > > My lab tests actually aren't too bad for metals lately, but my > > > > > > intolerance to all chelators indicates that I'm still worse off > > > > > > now than most people ever are. > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, I've heard that lab tests tend to normalize long before > > > > > > the problem has actually been resolved. So while the metal > > > > > > content in my hair is pretty good these days, it may not be > > > > > > that great in my brain or liver. > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 > Green smoothies are my current detox agent of choice. I had had a lot of > trouble with binders -- so disruptive, before I would find the right > dose, and hard to make 1/27 of a capsule! I don't even know how one could reliably make 1/27 of a capsule! I think it was a zeolite capsule you were dividing up 1o 1/27? I've tried bulk zeolite powder and also 2 brands of zeolite liquid, and didn't like the side effects of any of them. Although if I had to choose, I'd use the " ACZ Nano " liquid, and transfer the contents of the sprayer to a dropper bottle (as drops are smaller than " sprays " ). This was the most tolerable zeolite I tried. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 How do you make green smoothies? What do you put in them? ________________________________ From: lolahunt3 <marydelamer@...> Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 11:00:32 AM Subject: Re: Heavy metals Cheryl, That is fascinating and frightening, about the " negative polarization " and absorbing metals into the body! Grounding the body may be a great thing to do, while I am detoxing. My friend recommended a book titled " Earthing " about grounding the body. I don't know about its quality. Yes, that is my doctor's and my strategy for detoxing -- low and slow -- and gradually building up the dosage as my body gets more and more detoxed. My doctor said that at some point, things will start to snowball, and detoxing will happen quicker and quicker. The process builds. You just consistently go with lower doses until a higher dosage can be tolerated... Green smoothies are my current detox agent of choice. I had had a lot of trouble with binders -- so disruptive, before I would find the right dose, and hard to make 1/27 of a capsule! Though I am also homeless right now, and when more stability comes, I was going to try the 1/27 of a capsule again. But the green smoothies seem a little less harsh and disruptive. -Sue > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Marc <marc@> > > > > > > Subject: Re: re: Adrenals/ Evie > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010, 10:49 AM > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you had a heavy metal test lately to see where you are? I think > > > > > > > that for some of us the damage could very well be permanent. > > > > > > > > > > > > My lab tests actually aren't too bad for metals lately, but my > > > > > > intolerance to all chelators indicates that I'm still worse off > > > > > > now than most people ever are. > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, I've heard that lab tests tend to normalize long before > > > > > > the problem has actually been resolved. So while the metal > > > > > > content in my hair is pretty good these days, it may not be > > > > > > that great in my brain or liver. > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 well, I bought those miniature teaspoon sets online ($4.99) -- they start at 1/8 teaspoon and go down to 1/64 teaspoon! I think 1/27 a capsule was 1/64 a teaspoon! -Sue > > > Green smoothies are my current detox agent of choice. I had had a lot of > > trouble with binders -- so disruptive, before I would find the right > > dose, and hard to make 1/27 of a capsule! > > I don't even know how one could reliably make 1/27 of a capsule! > > I think it was a zeolite capsule you were dividing up 1o 1/27? I've tried > bulk zeolite powder and also 2 brands of zeolite liquid, and didn't > like the side effects of any of them. Although if I had to choose, > I'd use the " ACZ Nano " liquid, and transfer the contents of the > sprayer to a dropper bottle (as drops are smaller than " sprays " ). > This was the most tolerable zeolite I tried. > > Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 Green smoothies are from the raw food world. Boutenko, a famous teacher in the raw food movement, said that after many years of being 100% raw, she felt her health declining (I personally don't think it is a balanced enough diet, for me, long-term -- but it is a great healing diet -- tremendous for detoxification). She said she did a lot of research, and what she ended up with was the green smoothie. And now that she drinks that every day, her health has been great. She has written 2 books on the topic of green smoothies. She is an avid researcher; I respect her work. Green smoothies are a mixture of greens (like spinach, Romaine, kale, collards, chard, wild greens like miner's lettuce, and there are many, many others) mixed with fruit -- any fruit. And some water, so it's not too thick to drink. And you blend it all up. You need a high speed blender, to completely blend the greens. (I have a Blendtect blender, the other kind in America is the Vitamix. They cost $400, but I think I could detox with green smoothies alone. Or at least that they could play a critical role in my detoxing. So it seemed worth the money to me. (One doctor's appt. is $265.)) There are many fancier recipes out there, but I only need something to be edible, myself. I have problems with fruit when I eat it alone (except berries and apples and low-glycemic fruit), but I don't have problems with fruit when it is blended with greens. The recipes I've been doing since I began are: a small handful of spinach, 1/2 a clam of raspberries, or 7 strawberries, and 1/2 a cup of water. That makes about 8 oz., and I don't quite drink all of it. I have to start slow because of the detoxing effect. also, one ripe banana (with black spots) and a small amount of Romaine lettuce and water etc. I do simple recipes. One green, one fruit, plus water. I must say, they are tasty. And, before I had to back down to such a small amount, I noticed a dramatic lessening of brain inflammation (and a consequent ability to be clear and think and read well!), and a dramatic return to regularity (after being dependent on an enema for 15 years). It's in part the fiber that helps with that, though I think there are all sorts of synergistic effects. Magnesium, for instance, promotes peristalsis. I think the greens are filled with minerals, which are very helpful for detoxification. The chlorophyll binds heavy metals. You have to rotate greens a lot though, and use as much variety as possible. There are tiny bits of toxins in greens (plants discourage animals from eating too many of their leaves, but not their fruits) -- that's why you have to rotate. I'm excited about this path. We'll see what happens next! -Sue > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Marc <marc@> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: re: Adrenals/ Evie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010, 10:49 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you had a heavy metal test lately to see where you are? I think > > > > > > > > > > > that for some of us the damage could very well be permanent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My lab tests actually aren't too bad for metals lately, but my > > > > > > > > > > intolerance to all chelators indicates that I'm still worse off > > > > > > > > > > now than most people ever are. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, I've heard that lab tests tend to normalize long before > > > > > > > > > > the problem has actually been resolved. So while the metal > > > > > > > > > > content in my hair is pretty good these days, it may not be > > > > > > > > > > that great in my brain or liver. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 Thanks Sue -- I'll give it a try! Amy ________________________________ From: lolahunt3 <marydelamer@...> Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 9:05:19 PM Subject: Re: Heavy metals Green smoothies are from the raw food world. Boutenko, a famous teacher in the raw food movement, said that after many years of being 100% raw, she felt her health declining (I personally don't think it is a balanced enough diet, for me, long-term -- but it is a great healing diet -- tremendous for detoxification). She said she did a lot of research, and what she ended up with was the green smoothie. And now that she drinks that every day, her health has been great. She has written 2 books on the topic of green smoothies. She is an avid researcher; I respect her work. Green smoothies are a mixture of greens (like spinach, Romaine, kale, collards, chard, wild greens like miner's lettuce, and there are many, many others) mixed with fruit -- any fruit. And some water, so it's not too thick to drink. And you blend it all up. You need a high speed blender, to completely blend the greens. (I have a Blendtect blender, the other kind in America is the Vitamix. They cost $400, but I think I could detox with green smoothies alone. Or at least that they could play a critical role in my detoxing. So it seemed worth the money to me. (One doctor's appt. is $265.)) There are many fancier recipes out there, but I only need something to be edible, myself. I have problems with fruit when I eat it alone (except berries and apples and low-glycemic fruit), but I don't have problems with fruit when it is blended with greens. The recipes I've been doing since I began are: a small handful of spinach, 1/2 a clam of raspberries, or 7 strawberries, and 1/2 a cup of water. That makes about 8 oz., and I don't quite drink all of it. I have to start slow because of the detoxing effect. also, one ripe banana (with black spots) and a small amount of Romaine lettuce and water etc. I do simple recipes. One green, one fruit, plus water. I must say, they are tasty. And, before I had to back down to such a small amount, I noticed a dramatic lessening of brain inflammation (and a consequent ability to be clear and think and read well!), and a dramatic return to regularity (after being dependent on an enema for 15 years). It's in part the fiber that helps with that, though I think there are all sorts of synergistic effects. Magnesium, for instance, promotes peristalsis. I think the greens are filled with minerals, which are very helpful for detoxification. The chlorophyll binds heavy metals. You have to rotate greens a lot though, and use as much variety as possible. There are tiny bits of toxins in greens (plants discourage animals from eating too many of their leaves, but not their fruits) -- that's why you have to rotate. I'm excited about this path. We'll see what happens next! -Sue > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Marc <marc@> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: re: Adrenals/ Evie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010, 10:49 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you had a heavy metal test lately to see where you are? I think > > > > > > > > > > > that for some of us the damage could very well be permanent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My lab tests actually aren't too bad for metals lately, but my > > > > > > > > > > intolerance to all chelators indicates that I'm still worse off > > > > > > > > > > now than most people ever are. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, I've heard that lab tests tend to normalize long before > > > > > > > > > > the problem has actually been resolved. So while the metal > > > > > > > > > > content in my hair is pretty good these days, it may not be > > > > > > > > > > that great in my brain or liver. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 Do you have a link to the ACZ Nano liquid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 > Do you have a link to the ACZ Nano liquid? http://www.resultsrna.com/products/acz_nano_overview.php Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 Thanks for the link. I'm going to try a bottle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 > Thanks for the link. I'm going to try a bottle. And hopefully report anything here... :-) Some people report miraculous results from liquid zeolite... I can't get past the severe dehydration and muscle aches I get from even a small amount. Some claim that the solution to adverse side effects is to increase the dose, but I'm not trying that... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 Hi Marc, Which brand of zeolite do you use? I have been taking them for 11 months now. They turned my life around. I was extremely mercury toxic and heavy metal toxic. I ended up in the er where they had to stop and start my heart twice to get it out of a supra ventricular tachycardia. I tried EDTA, DMSA, ALA, all of which had horrendous redistribution for me. Fortunately I found a source for NCD Zeolite where a person doesn't have to be a distributor and it is about half price. I worked my way up to 30 drops a day and now I am at 9 to 15 drops day mixed with my water. In the beginning I would put the drops in my mouth. Since i have clean a lot of the heavy metals out of me my tolerance to emf s has improved. Carl > > > Thanks for the link. I'm going to try a bottle. > > And hopefully report anything here... :-) > > Some people report miraculous results from liquid zeolite... > I can't get past the severe dehydration and muscle aches > I get from even a small amount. Some claim that the > solution to adverse side effects is to increase the > dose, but I'm not trying that... > > Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 I just thought I'd throw in that I once tried one bottle of NCD Liquid Zeolite, and don't recall feeling anything at all, good or bothersome from it. I think I worked up to whatever the full dosage was quite quickly, maybe even exceeding it. Admittedly, I don't recall what my general state was at that time, and it was some time ago; if I ever find some at a reasonable price again, I may try again, and would let people here know how it went. R. From: highlander_archer <highlander_archer@...> Subject: Re: Heavy metals Received: Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 2:56 PM  Hi Marc, Which brand of zeolite do you use? I have been taking them for 11 months now. They turned my life around. I was extremely mercury toxic and heavy metal toxic. I ended up in the er where they had to stop and start my heart twice to get it out of a supra ventricular tachycardia. I tried EDTA, DMSA, ALA, all of which had horrendous redistribution for me. Fortunately I found a source for NCD Zeolite where a person doesn't have to be a distributor and it is about half price. I worked my way up to 30 drops a day and now I am at 9 to 15 drops day mixed with my water. In the beginning I would put the drops in my mouth. Since i have clean a lot of the heavy metals out of me my tolerance to emf s has improved. Carl > > > Thanks for the link. I'm going to try a bottle. > > And hopefully report anything here... :-) > > Some people report miraculous results from liquid zeolite... > I can't get past the severe dehydration and muscle aches > I get from even a small amount. Some claim that the > solution to adverse side effects is to increase the > dose, but I'm not trying that... > > Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 > I just thought I'd throw in that I once tried one bottle of NCD Liquid > Zeolite Yes, the reactions to NCD seem to be one of the following: -- miraculous, cured some problem -- didn't notice anything -- adverse reaction, cannot take I fall into the " adverse reaction " category (typical for me) Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 > Hi Marc, Which brand of zeolite do you use? I've purchased about 5 different brands of zeolite over the years, but due to adverse reactions to all of them, I can't say that I " use " any of them. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 D'oh! True, it does seem that you most often fall into the " bad reaction " category when it comes to things like that. Here's hoping you eventually land in the " tolerating a high dose with a good response " category! R. From: Marc <marc@...> Subject: Re: Re: Heavy metals Received: Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 4:14 PM  > I just thought I'd throw in that I once tried one bottle of NCD Liquid > Zeolite Yes, the reactions to NCD seem to be one of the following: -- miraculous, cured some problem -- didn't notice anything -- adverse reaction, cannot take I fall into the " adverse reaction " category (typical for me) Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 Yes, I'll keep you posted on what it does for me. As for the DSMA, they say it doesn't pull metals out of the brain but I find it is good for brain fog that I get in the early morning when I wake up. If I wake up early and take a dmsa pill around 5 am it wakes my brain right up. But I can't take more than one or two child size capsules in a day. I take them at night. That is all I'm taking right now. Last time I took a break from the ALA I did clay baths for two years. But I'm not going to do that this time. I'm going to take DMSA and try this zeolite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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