Guest guest Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 > As for the DSMA, they > say it doesn't pull metals out of the brain but I find it is good for > brain fog that I get in the early morning when I wake up. They say that DMSA doesn't get to metals in the brain, but I think perhaps us ES-folks have a non-working blood-brain barrier, so EVERYTHING gets to the brain (the metals and the chelators) Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 Hey Marc, Â I do believe that Hypersentivity is one of the results of damage to the blood brain barrier. Â Loni From: Marc <marc@...> Subject: Re: Re: Heavy metals Date: Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 4:17 PM Â > As for the DSMA, they > say it doesn't pull metals out of the brain but I find it is good for > brain fog that I get in the early morning when I wake up. They say that DMSA doesn't get to metals in the brain, but I think perhaps us ES-folks have a non-working blood-brain barrier, so EVERYTHING gets to the brain (the metals and the chelators) Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 When I started the NCD zeolites I could only tolerate one drop three times a day. I was very toxic! I finally worked up to 30 drops. From what I have seen or heard of for those people who don't feel any different, they may not be that toxic with heavy metals. If you feel terrible when you use the zeolite you may be taking to much and detoxing to fast. Razors edge here. Also from what I have researched, NCD Zeolite by Waiora is the only one that crosses into the blood stream. Any way, I am always on the look out for a better product that will get me out of this crises. I'll post the less expensive sources of NCD next time. Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 > Also from what I have researched, NCD Zeolite by Waiora > is the only one that crosses into the blood stream. Any way, Actually, having tried several types of liquid zeolite products on the market, I'd say that they are all pretty similar. I personally think ACZ Nano is the best, and I believe Dr. Lyn Hanshew (a big zeolite advocate) also thinks this (or at least she did a few years ago). Because NCD is a multi-level marketing supplement, I think you find distributors making wild claims about it being superior so that they can increase their sales. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 I agree one needs to be careful of multilevel marketing businesses. It is a shame Waiora has gone this rout. But from what i have learned not all the zeolites out there are the same. Waiora supper heats their zeolite to shrink it so that it can enter the blood stream and go to work. The other zeolites stay in the gut/intestines mopping up the toxins which can also make a person feel better. The molecules are to big to get into the blood stream. I use diatomaceous earth for this, " much cheaper and does the same thing in the gut/ intestines " Anyways we have to weed through all the hype and sharletons out there. Here are a couple of sights that sell waiora's product for almost half what their multi level distributors sell it for. http://healthemagic.com/ around $33.00 I have used this sight. http://www.zeolite.org/sale/ $29.95 a bottle I have not tried this one yet. http://www.dovepress.com/clinical-evidence-supporting-the-use-of-an-activated-cl\ inoptilolite-su-peer- Science behind NCD PDF format I am in no way affiliated with this company. This is the only product that has worked for me thus far. I continue my search every day for answers. I want to get back to where I was before my life almost ended. Take care all, Carl > > > Also from what I have researched, NCD Zeolite by Waiora > > is the only one that crosses into the blood stream. Any way, > > Actually, having tried several types of liquid zeolite products on > the market, I'd say that they are all pretty similar. I personally > think ACZ Nano is the best, and I believe Dr. Lyn Hanshew (a big > zeolite advocate) also thinks this (or at least she did a few > years ago). > > Because NCD is a multi-level marketing supplement, I think you > find distributors making wild claims about it being superior > so that they can increase their sales. > > Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 > The other zeolites stay in the gut/intestines mopping up the toxins which > can also make a person feel better. The molecules are to big to get into > the blood stream. I use diatomaceous earth for this, " much cheaper and > does the same thing in the gut/ intestines " I get the same body-wide reactions to the other brands of zeolite, so I think the claims about those " other zeolites " is false. Usually I find that claims made by one manufacturer about what the other manufacturers are doing are false. My reaction to diatomacesous earth is even worse than my reaction to zeolite... :-( ....good thing that I can stand to take ALA, I guess. :-) Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 Interesting, How long have you been taking ALA? Oh by the way the claims about the other Zeolites don't come from Waiora. You could be allergic all zeolites just like some people are allergic to other things. Carl > > > The other zeolites stay in the gut/intestines mopping up the toxins which > > can also make a person feel better. The molecules are to big to get into > > the blood stream. I use diatomaceous earth for this, " much cheaper and > > does the same thing in the gut/ intestines " > > I get the same body-wide reactions to the other brands of zeolite, so > I think the claims about those " other zeolites " is false. > > Usually I find that claims made by one manufacturer about what the > other manufacturers are doing are false. > > My reaction to diatomacesous earth is even worse than my reaction > to zeolite... :-( > > ...good thing that I can stand to take ALA, I guess. :-) > > Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 > Interesting, How long have you been taking ALA? Less than a year... it's been slow going, as my tolerance is pretty low. My tolerance for all metal mobilizer is pretty low, though... > Oh by the way the claims about the other Zeolites don't come from Waiora. > You could be allergic all zeolites just like some people are allergic to > other things. I think my main complaints about the various zeolite products on the market were detox-type symptoms, not allergy symptoms. Perhaps if I had stuck with them for more time, I would have been able to build up more of a tolerance. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 Hello I have been taking salmon oil and vitamin D transdermal lotion for almost 2 years, prior to starting Bee's diet I read in a prior post in order to remove heavy metals cod liver oil was recommended - is it necessary since I am taking the above I am taking coconut oil and ghee also lots of good fats I add sometimes a little cilantro in the egg drink, this removes metals also yes (?) Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 > Hello > > I have been taking salmon oil and vitamin D transdermal lotion for almost 2 > years, prior to starting Bee's diet > > I read in a prior post in order to remove heavy metals cod liver oil was > recommended - is it necessary since I am taking the above > > I am taking coconut oil and ghee also lots of good fats > > I add sometimes a little cilantro in the egg drink, this removes metals also > yes (?) +++Hi , Cod liver oil is a " liver " oil so it is different than fish oils like Salmon. Cod liver oil contains 3 important nutrients: omega 3 (EPA+DHA), and vitamins A and D. Salmon oil only contains omega 3, and the labels are confusing. You need to take enough of to get 2,000 and 3,000 mg of omega 3, which is EPA plus DHA from the label. In addition you need vitamins A and D. I don't know what the transdermal lotion is, but you need to be getting 800 - 1200 IU total per day. Also you need vitamin A. Cod liver oil alone doesn't remove heavy metals, since it works along with saturated fats and with other nutrients on this program. Cilantro helps remove heavy metals too, but it is also diuretic which makes your body lose water along with minerals, so go easy on it. Vitamin C also helps remove heavy metals. How's the 9-day program going for you? Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 Yes, Red Desert Clay.http://www.i-amperfectlyhealthy.com/RedDesertClay-HomePage.htmlAliOn Mar 2, 2011, at 5:35 PM, oldglory@... wrote: Hi Anne, If I had tremors, or shaking, that is most likely caused by heavy metals (welded, worked with every metal known to man), I would assume heavy metals is the cause of the neurological problems. If I had this problem, heavy metals, can you suggest anything to chelate the heavy metals out of the body? Thank you, Jean With respect, I know people have have had very bad results with the Cutler protocol. (I know people with good results, too, but my point is that his protocol is not successful for everybody.) Testing for heavy metals ( & other things) is an issue about which there are a LOT of debates, but many people I know have stopped testing. The heavy metals that hurt you are the ones you cannot excrete; the hair test measures excreted metals. If you are excreting metals, they are not the ones hurting you... The best way to test for heavy metals is a biopsy, but hey, who wants a brain biopsy? And yes, the official position on this list is that the patch test is not valid, because the iodine can evaporate, which is, in turn affected by humidity & temperature in the room, among other things. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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