contradiction in suggestion to take supps without water and drink plenty w/ meal

[Guest guest]

Hi Ed,

I always appreciate your intelligence and clarity so thank you for sharing it

here. I have a question about something you said in this conversation. You wrote

" Take the supplements with your meals and do not dilute them. "

This is confusing to me because I have also read Bee's suggestions to drink

plenty of water with meals. I have also read that we are to take our supplements

with meals. If we need liquid with our meals and we need our supplements with

our meals, then taking supplements with water seems logical. I don't understand

what different thing occurs when we take our supplements with very little water

and then drink a full glass as part of our meal. I don't even understand how to

accomplish your suggestion in light of Bee's other two! Can you expound, please?

Thanks, Robin

> >

> > thank you so much ed, i will reply in all CAPS.

> >

> > > I have experienced ongoing 24/7 all body/generalized itching and it is

maddening, no doubts. However, you need to realize you cannot cheat

whatsoever.

> > HOW LONG DID THIS INSANE ITCH LAST? YIKES MADDENING IS NOT EVEN WORDS

ENOUGH, SORT OF ALL OVER PICKY ITCHES WITH NOW HIVES THAT BROKE OOUT RECENTLY

TOO.

> >

>

> @@ SNIP

>

> > >

> > > I've seen this same sensitivity in other individuals with butter , in

example. This temporary sensitivity can be perceived as allergy reactions by

mainstream medicine, although incorrect.

> > >

> > > Furthermore, its similar to Bee, when she was unwell and could only

tolerate 9 foods ! This is why I believe extremely sick people sometimes on

group need to be observed according to their complaints with the program and

have mildly modified individual diets i.e omitting coconut oil , butter ..etc

temporarily , until their health advances, to avoid frustration and diverting

from the program due to these extreme sensitivities from healing/detox

reactions.

> > >

> > > Anyhow, Bee and everyone this is my perspective to you,Tina, and members

now or in the future that are similar in situation/problem.

> > >

> > > In Solidarity,

> > > Ed

> > > group moderator

> > >

>

> @@ Snip

>

>

> @@ Hi Tina,

>

> First, just in case you are unaware, using CAPS is considered yelling & rude

on the internet. Otherwise, no worries.

>

> > HOW LONG DID THIS INSANE ITCH LAST? YIKES MADDENING IS NOT EVEN WORDS

ENOUGH, SORT OF ALL OVER PICKY ITCHES WITH NOW HIVES THAT BROKE OOUT RECENTLY

TOO.

>

> @@ Agreed, albeit, Maddening/insane equals same results ;] Nonetheless, until

I was able to compose & initiate a proper clean diet and commit, I endured this

itch symptom for over 2 months ,24/7. Which meant sleeping every 3 days for

1-2 hours when my body would crash. Had rashes too. Plus other symptoms

>

> > SIMILAR FOR ME TOO - JUST HAD TO STOP THE BIT OF FRUIT ID BEEN HAVING

>

> @@ True. Good call. I had no fruit neither. Fructose is handled by the liver

rather than the pancreas. And one wants to never add unneeded burden to the

liver when extremely unwell.

>

> > > 1) - Take the supplements with your meals and do not dilute them.

> > DO YOU MEAN THE CAL/MD CITRATES ANF VITC? I PUT THEM IN WATER I THOUGHT WE

WERE SUPPOSED TO?

>

> @@ I advise never put Calcium/Magnesium citrate, Vitamin C or any supplements

in water/fluids. Swallow them separate followed by a sip of water ;

before,during or after meals.

>

> > REALLY AGAIN I WENT TOO FAST? WHEN I GO UP TO SAY 1/8 TSP TO 1/4 AND HOLD

FOR 4-5 DAYS, IS THAT JUST ONE OG THE 3 SERVINGS? I JUST SWITCHED ALL 3 OF MY

DAILY DOSES TO 1/4 TSP ONCE I GOT UP TO 1/8 TSP FOR ABOUT 4 -5 DAYS, THEN THE

ITCHES STARTED TO INTENSIFY DAILY.

>

> @@ Hold the coconut oil dose at 1/8 tsp for a month and then try to increase

to 1/4 and see how you feel then. Since 1/8 tsp seems tolerable for you at

present.

>

> > YES I SEE. I DO ONLY HAVE ORG SEA SALT CHIPS ONCE IN AWHILE, I CANNOT

TOLERATE ANYTHING ELSE ANYWAY.

>

> @@ That's a good start. However, even that cheat in your sensitive state at

present, can set you back some, compared to other people, perhaps, not as unwell

as yourself. Work towards 3 months without any cheats.

>

> > YES, I HAVE ONLY A BIT OF ORGANIC B/C OF THE COST, I CAN BARELY AFFORD THE

FOOD I NEED, BUT WILL TRY TO GET MORE ORGANIC. I MEAN $9 FOR A CAULIFLOWER,

SAME FOR CABBAGE, AND MEATS INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE - ITS NOT FAIR

>

> @@ Tina, yeah, the economy is a mess. Okay ,no worries, its doable.

> Just buy your eggs organic. If you can afford unsalted butter organic that's

good too, if not, just ensure its unsalted. The vegetables can be from the

regular market just ensure you cook them to ensure absorption of nutrients and

less energy & burden on your digestion. The rest of the food can be from the

regular market and you will be find. The nutrient value maybe a little lower.

However, you will heal & progress. Many are in your financial shoes and still

do well. As shall you.

>

> > THANK YOU FOR YOUR RELIES ED AND BEE, HUGS.

> > TINA

>

> You are very welcome, Tina.

>

> Journey onwards,

> Ed

> group moderator

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Ed,

> I always appreciate your intelligence and clarity so thank you for sharing it

here. I have a question about something you said in this conversation. You wrote

" Take the supplements with your meals and do not dilute them. "

> This is confusing to me because I have also read Bee's suggestions to drink

plenty of water with meals. I have also read that we are to take our supplements

with meals. If we need liquid with our meals and we need our supplements with

our meals, then taking supplements with water seems logical. I don't understand

what different thing occurs when we take our supplements with very little water

and then drink a full glass as part of our meal. I don't even understand how to

accomplish your suggestion in light of Bee's other two! Can you expound, please?

+++Hi Robin,

The reason Ed wrote not to take supplements mixed into water was mainly because

Tina was mixing powdered calcium and magnesium minerals along with ascorbic acid

crystals (vitamin C) in water.

Minerals are heavier than water so they do not mix well, so they sink to the

bottom. Either you don't get them or you are digging them out with a spoon.

He made a mistake about ascorbic acid because it wasn't clear the kind of

vitamin C Tina was using. Of course ascorbic acid must mix in water to take it,

and he may not have been thinking about other supplements you must take with

water.

It was an oversight on Ed's part, but he is usually " spot on " with most of his

posts so let us be understanding, okay?

Bee

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Hi Ed,

> > I always appreciate your intelligence and clarity so thank you for sharing

it here. I have a question about something you said in this conversation. You

wrote " Take the supplements with your meals and do not dilute them. "

> > This is confusing to me because I have also read Bee's suggestions to drink

plenty of water with meals. I have also read that we are to take our supplements

with meals. If we need liquid with our meals and we need our supplements with

our meals, then taking supplements with water seems logical. I don't understand

what different thing occurs when we take our supplements with very little water

and then drink a full glass as part of our meal. I don't even understand how to

accomplish your suggestion in light of Bee's other two! Can you expound, please?

>

> +++Hi Robin,

>

> The reason Ed wrote not to take supplements mixed into water was mainly

because Tina was mixing powdered calcium and magnesium minerals along with

ascorbic acid crystals (vitamin C) in water.

>

> Minerals are heavier than water so they do not mix well, so they sink to the

bottom. Either you don't get them or you are digging them out with a spoon.

>

> He made a mistake about ascorbic acid because it wasn't clear the kind of

vitamin C Tina was using. Of course ascorbic acid must mix in water to take it,

and he may not have been thinking about other supplements you must take with

water.

>

> It was an oversight on Ed's part, but he is usually " spot on " with most of his

posts so let us be understanding, okay?

>

> Bee

>

@@ Hi Bee,

You are correct in your deduction of my reasoning to my answer to Tina

in regards to the supplements.

However, its incorrect to state I made a mistake on information that was not

made clear to me. Although, it is correct to state that I was not aware nor

provided all of the information.

So therefore, I was left to advise or speculate, if you will, on limited

information. Unless, I sorted through the 152 posts that Tina has posted

insofar, it was virtually impossible for me deduce what Vitamin C that she was

exactly utilizing.

Nonetheless, thanks for understanding.

Cordially,

Ed

group moderator