Guest guest Posted August 22, 2000 Report Share Posted August 22, 2000 Hi All, I have been on as antidepressant for awhile know. If I wasn't I don't think I would want to live with me. My moods go so up and down I drive everyone crazy.One minute I am so cold I am under elc. blanket next I am so hot so i get it so cold in the house you could hang meat. One night I sleep like a log next up at 2 am. My bones in my upper back hurt all the time and my wrist are killing me. I do take paxil it seams to help a little. I know all this I am feeling is from treatment. But gee some days you just want to throw in the towel you feel so bad that is the way I have been feeling. I called my hepc doctor he had said he wanted to see me in Sept. know he can't see me till Dec. It just seams like he would want to take blood before then I have been on treatment 7 1/2 months haven't seen him for almost 3 months.Love to All Jessie EZ-DOES IT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2000 Report Share Posted August 22, 2000 ---------- >From: jessiefromchino@... I called my hepc doctor he had said he > wanted to see me in Sept. know he can't see me till Dec. It just seams > like he would want to take blood before then I have been on treatment 7 > 1/2 months haven't seen him for almost 3 months.Love to All Jessie > > EZ-DOES IT Are you on combo? If so, your blood needs to be closely monitored! Even if you are on mono, you still need to have blood drawn every couple of months, some say monthly. How are you feeling? Some docs should just be taken out back and shot! gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2000 Report Share Posted August 22, 2000 ---------- >From: jessiefromchino@... I called my hepc doctor he had said he > wanted to see me in Sept. know he can't see me till Dec. It just seams > like he would want to take blood before then I have been on treatment 7 > 1/2 months haven't seen him for almost 3 months.Love to All Jessie > > EZ-DOES IT Are you on combo? If so, your blood needs to be closely monitored! Even if you are on mono, you still need to have blood drawn every couple of months, some say monthly. How are you feeling? Some docs should just be taken out back and shot! gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2000 Report Share Posted August 22, 2000 ---------- >From: jessiefromchino@... I called my hepc doctor he had said he > wanted to see me in Sept. know he can't see me till Dec. It just seams > like he would want to take blood before then I have been on treatment 7 > 1/2 months haven't seen him for almost 3 months.Love to All Jessie > > EZ-DOES IT Are you on combo? If so, your blood needs to be closely monitored! Even if you are on mono, you still need to have blood drawn every couple of months, some say monthly. How are you feeling? Some docs should just be taken out back and shot! gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2000 Report Share Posted August 22, 2000 ---------- >From: jessiefromchino@... I called my hepc doctor he had said he > wanted to see me in Sept. know he can't see me till Dec. It just seams > like he would want to take blood before then I have been on treatment 7 > 1/2 months haven't seen him for almost 3 months.Love to All Jessie > > EZ-DOES IT Are you on combo? If so, your blood needs to be closely monitored! Even if you are on mono, you still need to have blood drawn every couple of months, some say monthly. How are you feeling? Some docs should just be taken out back and shot! gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2000 Report Share Posted August 22, 2000 Claudine... I'm leery of Xanax. I helped my girlfriend go thru withdrawal on it. Just a personal bug for me ya know. But I'm glad it helps you! Have a great week I'm off to work! alley/ ICQ 12631861 alleypat@... http://www.flash.net/~alleypat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2000 Report Share Posted August 22, 2000 Claudine... I'm leery of Xanax. I helped my girlfriend go thru withdrawal on it. Just a personal bug for me ya know. But I'm glad it helps you! Have a great week I'm off to work! alley/ ICQ 12631861 alleypat@... http://www.flash.net/~alleypat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2000 Report Share Posted August 22, 2000 > >From: jessiefromchino@... > I called my hepc doctor he had said he > > wanted to see me in Sept. know he can't see me > till Dec. It just seams > > like he would want to take blood before then I > have been on treatment 7 > > 1/2 months haven't seen him for almost 3 > months.Love to All Jessie Dear Jessie, Something is really wrong here!!! There is no way you should be going this long between seeing your doctor and having blood work done. Is there another doctor you see, like a family doc or something? If so, I would contact him/her right away and explain the situation. SOMEONE needs to be following you and doing lab work. It should have been your hep doctor. Especially your WBC and platelets can change, and drop, even though they may have been stable before. I think you need a new hep doc! Claudine ===== Claudine claudinecrews@... __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2000 Report Share Posted August 22, 2000 > >From: jessiefromchino@... > I called my hepc doctor he had said he > > wanted to see me in Sept. know he can't see me > till Dec. It just seams > > like he would want to take blood before then I > have been on treatment 7 > > 1/2 months haven't seen him for almost 3 > months.Love to All Jessie Dear Jessie, Something is really wrong here!!! There is no way you should be going this long between seeing your doctor and having blood work done. Is there another doctor you see, like a family doc or something? If so, I would contact him/her right away and explain the situation. SOMEONE needs to be following you and doing lab work. It should have been your hep doctor. Especially your WBC and platelets can change, and drop, even though they may have been stable before. I think you need a new hep doc! Claudine ===== Claudine claudinecrews@... __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2000 Report Share Posted August 22, 2000 --- " Ken & Pat @home " <alleypat@...> wrote: > Claudine... I'm leery of Xanax. I helped my > girlfriend go thru withdrawal on > it. Just a personal bug for me ya know. But I'm glad > it helps you! It worked great for insomnia until I built up a tolerance to it. When I did get off of it I had no trouble at all, as long as I did it right! I cut down very, very, gradually. I was on two pills at bedtime, and I cut them into 1/4ths, and decreased by 1/4 every week. I had NO withdrawal symptoms at all. (I also took the St. 's Wort during this time.) ===== Claudine claudinecrews@... __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2000 Report Share Posted August 22, 2000 --- " Ken & Pat @home " <alleypat@...> wrote: > Claudine... I'm leery of Xanax. I helped my > girlfriend go thru withdrawal on > it. Just a personal bug for me ya know. But I'm glad > it helps you! It worked great for insomnia until I built up a tolerance to it. When I did get off of it I had no trouble at all, as long as I did it right! I cut down very, very, gradually. I was on two pills at bedtime, and I cut them into 1/4ths, and decreased by 1/4 every week. I had NO withdrawal symptoms at all. (I also took the St. 's Wort during this time.) ===== Claudine claudinecrews@... __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2000 Report Share Posted August 22, 2000 Claudine, I called my M.D. doctor she is going to see me Sept.1, my hepc doctor did move the apt. from Dec.15 to Sept 15 but I am going to ask my M.D. if she can tell me of another hepc doctor. You would think living in Calif. their would be a lot of hepc doctor their are far and few in between. The meds have got me feeling so bad my bones hurt so bad and I am so cold I sleep with the elc. blanket on even when it is 102 out side. I don,t mean to complain but I can't wait till Jan.10,2001 I will be done with treatment that will be 1 year. T/C Jessie EZ-DOES IT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2000 Report Share Posted August 22, 2000 --- jessiefromchino@... wrote: > Claudine, I called my M.D. doctor she is going to > see me Sept.1, my hepc > doctor > did move the apt. from Dec.15 to Sept 15 but I am > going to ask my M.D. > if she can tell me of another hepc doctor. You would > think living in > Calif. their would be a lot of hepc doctor their are > far and few in > between. Dear Jessie, I glad to hear you will be seeing a doctor before December. I think that doctors that treat HCV, and really know what they are doing, are few and far between EVERYWHERE! Good luck! ===== Claudine claudinecrews@... __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2000 Report Share Posted September 4, 2000 Marty, Thanks so much for you explanation on the anti-deps. I want to be sure I know what I am talking about when I talk to my doc, and you put it in understandable language. Have you ever considered becoming a teacher?? You would be and are terrific! I am encouraged by your wives progress. I too am 1b, and was getting frustrated hearing all the negative aspects of 1b and treatment. Also, in your personal opinion, do you think it would be beneficial for me to do every other day dosing?? I am leaning that way. Thank you again. Staying positive, Lora Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2000 Report Share Posted September 4, 2000 Marty, Thanks so much for you explanation on the anti-deps. I want to be sure I know what I am talking about when I talk to my doc, and you put it in understandable language. Have you ever considered becoming a teacher?? You would be and are terrific! I am encouraged by your wives progress. I too am 1b, and was getting frustrated hearing all the negative aspects of 1b and treatment. Also, in your personal opinion, do you think it would be beneficial for me to do every other day dosing?? I am leaning that way. Thank you again. Staying positive, Lora Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2000 Report Share Posted September 4, 2000 Marty, Thanks so much for you explanation on the anti-deps. I want to be sure I know what I am talking about when I talk to my doc, and you put it in understandable language. Have you ever considered becoming a teacher?? You would be and are terrific! I am encouraged by your wives progress. I too am 1b, and was getting frustrated hearing all the negative aspects of 1b and treatment. Also, in your personal opinion, do you think it would be beneficial for me to do every other day dosing?? I am leaning that way. Thank you again. Staying positive, Lora Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2000 Report Share Posted September 4, 2000 Marty, Thanks so much for you explanation on the anti-deps. I want to be sure I know what I am talking about when I talk to my doc, and you put it in understandable language. Have you ever considered becoming a teacher?? You would be and are terrific! I am encouraged by your wives progress. I too am 1b, and was getting frustrated hearing all the negative aspects of 1b and treatment. Also, in your personal opinion, do you think it would be beneficial for me to do every other day dosing?? I am leaning that way. Thank you again. Staying positive, Lora Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2000 Report Share Posted September 4, 2000 Thanks Marty on the anti-depressants! I'm rather bored today. It's 108 in Dallas and I'm sitting by window a/c and computer trying to stay cool. alley/ ICQ 12631861 alleypat@... http://www.flash.net/~alleypat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2000 Report Share Posted September 4, 2000 Thanks Marty on the anti-depressants! I'm rather bored today. It's 108 in Dallas and I'm sitting by window a/c and computer trying to stay cool. alley/ ICQ 12631861 alleypat@... http://www.flash.net/~alleypat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2000 Report Share Posted September 4, 2000 Thanks Marty on the anti-depressants! I'm rather bored today. It's 108 in Dallas and I'm sitting by window a/c and computer trying to stay cool. alley/ ICQ 12631861 alleypat@... http://www.flash.net/~alleypat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2000 Report Share Posted September 4, 2000 Thanks Marty on the anti-depressants! I'm rather bored today. It's 108 in Dallas and I'm sitting by window a/c and computer trying to stay cool. alley/ ICQ 12631861 alleypat@... http://www.flash.net/~alleypat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2000 Report Share Posted September 4, 2000 Dear All: Also, since we are on anti-depressants, there are two major classes that are frequently seen in the uS for HCV. One is the tricyclics, which include the Elavil, pamelor, sinequan, and tofranil. These act as a " central nervous system " medication, and, simplistically, assist by stopping the circulation of certain chemicals in the body which cause depression, anxiety, etc. It has a generalized effect, and for some people works very well. By acting throughout the entire body, basically it does not allow you to get too " high " /overly happy, and does not let you get too low, or depressed. It does have some side effects that many people do not like, such as weight gain and a " zombie " like feeling. What is prescribed more frequently is the newer class called the SSRIs, which are Selective Seratonin Release Inhibitors, which act more selectively. These are drugs such as Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Buspar, and several others. Mini-Biology for anyone interested. Your brain is composed of nervous cells called neurons. Between each neuron is a gap called the synapse. For the communication between the neurons, several things will happen. At the end of each neuron, certain molecules are sent out into the synapse. These molecules will either trigger other molecules in the next neuron to begin it's path; may combine with a molecule in the next neuron to keep going; may be absorbed by the next neuron; and several other combinations. What the SSRIs do is to act in the synapse to either cover up, or prevent an over number of molecules in the gap. There are many theories on how these work, and why they are needed, and one theory that is commonly accepted, is that with today's " life styles " and all the stimulation that everyone is exposed to, there are too many molecules secreted into these spaces. While one extra molecule may not do much, if you add the millions of brain cells we have, and each is over stimulated, then there are reasons for anxiety, depression and many other ways that each of us reacts to. Prior to the SSRIs, all that could be done to help someone who is anxious, over or under stimulated, and all that was available was to " zonk " them out. For some, this is an excellent treatment, but, for many others the side effects were a real problem. That is why the current shift to using these newer meds. The exact mechanism of the whys and how each medication works, and why it does or does not work, is not definitely known. The theory behind why different ones work for one person and not for another is not definitely known, and depending on which chemical the molecule is made of, and how it acts, is thought to be whether that medication works for one person or another. That is also why it may take several trials of different meds to find which one works best for you, as well as may take weeks to make a difference. I hope this helps for some to understand these meds and why there are so many. Also, since, by definition, almost everyone could be said to be depressed, to varying degrees, and the pressures of daily living are increasing from generation to generation, as well as day to day, most people will need some help at some time. HCV is a chronic, and potentially fatal disease. It requires living with daily uncertainty, daily medications, fatigue, pain, tests, living with everything that any chronic illness can bring, it is not hard to understand why someone is anxious or depressed. It would be odder to find someone who does not react to these problems! Marty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2000 Report Share Posted September 4, 2000 Dear All: Also, since we are on anti-depressants, there are two major classes that are frequently seen in the uS for HCV. One is the tricyclics, which include the Elavil, pamelor, sinequan, and tofranil. These act as a " central nervous system " medication, and, simplistically, assist by stopping the circulation of certain chemicals in the body which cause depression, anxiety, etc. It has a generalized effect, and for some people works very well. By acting throughout the entire body, basically it does not allow you to get too " high " /overly happy, and does not let you get too low, or depressed. It does have some side effects that many people do not like, such as weight gain and a " zombie " like feeling. What is prescribed more frequently is the newer class called the SSRIs, which are Selective Seratonin Release Inhibitors, which act more selectively. These are drugs such as Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Buspar, and several others. Mini-Biology for anyone interested. Your brain is composed of nervous cells called neurons. Between each neuron is a gap called the synapse. For the communication between the neurons, several things will happen. At the end of each neuron, certain molecules are sent out into the synapse. These molecules will either trigger other molecules in the next neuron to begin it's path; may combine with a molecule in the next neuron to keep going; may be absorbed by the next neuron; and several other combinations. What the SSRIs do is to act in the synapse to either cover up, or prevent an over number of molecules in the gap. There are many theories on how these work, and why they are needed, and one theory that is commonly accepted, is that with today's " life styles " and all the stimulation that everyone is exposed to, there are too many molecules secreted into these spaces. While one extra molecule may not do much, if you add the millions of brain cells we have, and each is over stimulated, then there are reasons for anxiety, depression and many other ways that each of us reacts to. Prior to the SSRIs, all that could be done to help someone who is anxious, over or under stimulated, and all that was available was to " zonk " them out. For some, this is an excellent treatment, but, for many others the side effects were a real problem. That is why the current shift to using these newer meds. The exact mechanism of the whys and how each medication works, and why it does or does not work, is not definitely known. The theory behind why different ones work for one person and not for another is not definitely known, and depending on which chemical the molecule is made of, and how it acts, is thought to be whether that medication works for one person or another. That is also why it may take several trials of different meds to find which one works best for you, as well as may take weeks to make a difference. I hope this helps for some to understand these meds and why there are so many. Also, since, by definition, almost everyone could be said to be depressed, to varying degrees, and the pressures of daily living are increasing from generation to generation, as well as day to day, most people will need some help at some time. HCV is a chronic, and potentially fatal disease. It requires living with daily uncertainty, daily medications, fatigue, pain, tests, living with everything that any chronic illness can bring, it is not hard to understand why someone is anxious or depressed. It would be odder to find someone who does not react to these problems! Marty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2000 Report Share Posted September 4, 2000 Dear All: Also, since we are on anti-depressants, there are two major classes that are frequently seen in the uS for HCV. One is the tricyclics, which include the Elavil, pamelor, sinequan, and tofranil. These act as a " central nervous system " medication, and, simplistically, assist by stopping the circulation of certain chemicals in the body which cause depression, anxiety, etc. It has a generalized effect, and for some people works very well. By acting throughout the entire body, basically it does not allow you to get too " high " /overly happy, and does not let you get too low, or depressed. It does have some side effects that many people do not like, such as weight gain and a " zombie " like feeling. What is prescribed more frequently is the newer class called the SSRIs, which are Selective Seratonin Release Inhibitors, which act more selectively. These are drugs such as Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Buspar, and several others. Mini-Biology for anyone interested. Your brain is composed of nervous cells called neurons. Between each neuron is a gap called the synapse. For the communication between the neurons, several things will happen. At the end of each neuron, certain molecules are sent out into the synapse. These molecules will either trigger other molecules in the next neuron to begin it's path; may combine with a molecule in the next neuron to keep going; may be absorbed by the next neuron; and several other combinations. What the SSRIs do is to act in the synapse to either cover up, or prevent an over number of molecules in the gap. There are many theories on how these work, and why they are needed, and one theory that is commonly accepted, is that with today's " life styles " and all the stimulation that everyone is exposed to, there are too many molecules secreted into these spaces. While one extra molecule may not do much, if you add the millions of brain cells we have, and each is over stimulated, then there are reasons for anxiety, depression and many other ways that each of us reacts to. Prior to the SSRIs, all that could be done to help someone who is anxious, over or under stimulated, and all that was available was to " zonk " them out. For some, this is an excellent treatment, but, for many others the side effects were a real problem. That is why the current shift to using these newer meds. The exact mechanism of the whys and how each medication works, and why it does or does not work, is not definitely known. The theory behind why different ones work for one person and not for another is not definitely known, and depending on which chemical the molecule is made of, and how it acts, is thought to be whether that medication works for one person or another. That is also why it may take several trials of different meds to find which one works best for you, as well as may take weeks to make a difference. I hope this helps for some to understand these meds and why there are so many. Also, since, by definition, almost everyone could be said to be depressed, to varying degrees, and the pressures of daily living are increasing from generation to generation, as well as day to day, most people will need some help at some time. HCV is a chronic, and potentially fatal disease. It requires living with daily uncertainty, daily medications, fatigue, pain, tests, living with everything that any chronic illness can bring, it is not hard to understand why someone is anxious or depressed. It would be odder to find someone who does not react to these problems! Marty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2000 Report Share Posted September 4, 2000 Dear All: Also, since we are on anti-depressants, there are two major classes that are frequently seen in the uS for HCV. One is the tricyclics, which include the Elavil, pamelor, sinequan, and tofranil. These act as a " central nervous system " medication, and, simplistically, assist by stopping the circulation of certain chemicals in the body which cause depression, anxiety, etc. It has a generalized effect, and for some people works very well. By acting throughout the entire body, basically it does not allow you to get too " high " /overly happy, and does not let you get too low, or depressed. It does have some side effects that many people do not like, such as weight gain and a " zombie " like feeling. What is prescribed more frequently is the newer class called the SSRIs, which are Selective Seratonin Release Inhibitors, which act more selectively. These are drugs such as Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Buspar, and several others. Mini-Biology for anyone interested. Your brain is composed of nervous cells called neurons. Between each neuron is a gap called the synapse. For the communication between the neurons, several things will happen. At the end of each neuron, certain molecules are sent out into the synapse. These molecules will either trigger other molecules in the next neuron to begin it's path; may combine with a molecule in the next neuron to keep going; may be absorbed by the next neuron; and several other combinations. What the SSRIs do is to act in the synapse to either cover up, or prevent an over number of molecules in the gap. There are many theories on how these work, and why they are needed, and one theory that is commonly accepted, is that with today's " life styles " and all the stimulation that everyone is exposed to, there are too many molecules secreted into these spaces. While one extra molecule may not do much, if you add the millions of brain cells we have, and each is over stimulated, then there are reasons for anxiety, depression and many other ways that each of us reacts to. Prior to the SSRIs, all that could be done to help someone who is anxious, over or under stimulated, and all that was available was to " zonk " them out. For some, this is an excellent treatment, but, for many others the side effects were a real problem. That is why the current shift to using these newer meds. The exact mechanism of the whys and how each medication works, and why it does or does not work, is not definitely known. The theory behind why different ones work for one person and not for another is not definitely known, and depending on which chemical the molecule is made of, and how it acts, is thought to be whether that medication works for one person or another. That is also why it may take several trials of different meds to find which one works best for you, as well as may take weeks to make a difference. I hope this helps for some to understand these meds and why there are so many. Also, since, by definition, almost everyone could be said to be depressed, to varying degrees, and the pressures of daily living are increasing from generation to generation, as well as day to day, most people will need some help at some time. HCV is a chronic, and potentially fatal disease. It requires living with daily uncertainty, daily medications, fatigue, pain, tests, living with everything that any chronic illness can bring, it is not hard to understand why someone is anxious or depressed. It would be odder to find someone who does not react to these problems! Marty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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