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With all the pros of antidepressants being

stated, I thought I should mention a few of the cons.

I think it's important to remember that

antidepressants are prescription drugs, for a reason.

They are NOT risk free, and all have possible side

effects. The SSRI's can cause nausea, headache,

insomnia, dry mouth, anxiety, tinnitus, and many other

minor problems. They are well known for their sexual

side effects, including decreased libido, difficulty

reaching orgasm, ejaculation failure and impotence.

They also have some more serious risks, such as

hypertension, myocardial infarction, etc, and in the

case of Prozac even death has been recorded. Info on

Zoloft states that it is heavily metabolized by the

liver and may cause altered liver function and dose

reductions are often required with cirrhosis.

Wellbutruin (Zyban), an aminodetone class

antidepressant, has also been associated with

seizures. Amitriptyline (Elavil), a tricyclic

antidepressant, has also been associated with

cardiovascular disorders, peripheral neuropathy,

altered platelets, and altered liver function tests.

And some of these do have mild side effects when

discontinued. Headaches, dizziness, and irritability

can occur with the discontinuation of Prozac, and

amitriptyline requires gradual dose reduction to avoid

problems when discontinuing. Also, most of these have

not been studied in those with chronic illnesses. You

can look up any of these medication at

http://www.rxlist.com. Click onto the generic name on

the left, and look under precautions, warnings, and

the section on adverse events. (Precautions and

warnings is the more serious stuff.) I only mentioned

a very few of the possible side effects and risks.

Something else to consider is how much experience

your GI has with these medications. The SSRI's are

all fairly new, and he may not know much more than

what the drug salesman has told him. It seems like

often the doctors are prescribing the same medication

to everyone, regardless of the type of depressive

symptoms that a person is exhibiting, yet a good

psychiatrist would consider the symptoms and prescribe

the appropriate drug. NOT a 'one for all' approach.

(Maybe this is why so many have to try several before

lucking into the right one?)

I am not saying that a person should look at all

these possible side effects and issues and decide to

refuse an antidepressant, just that you should be

aware of them, and consider carefully before adding

one more drug for your body to deal with. Most people

will NOT have a problem with any of these drugs. But I

would look it up and read everything on it before I

swallowed one! And I wouldn't take one if I didn't

need it.

One more thing - while I suspect that most all of

us have at least some minor depression simply because

we have this chronic disease, and all the feelings and

quality of life issues that go with it, not everyone

who goes on treatment has depression, at least not bad

enough to need an antidepressant. Just like all the

side effects of the antidepressants, which only occur

in some people, depression as a side effect of

treatment only occurs in some, not all. Just like we

often only hear all the negative physical side effects

on these lists, the people who are getting along fine

mentally may not need these groups as much as the ones

having problems. So we shouldn't assume that everyone

will need an antidepressant, even though many will

benefit from one.

=====

Claudine

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With all the pros of antidepressants being

stated, I thought I should mention a few of the cons.

I think it's important to remember that

antidepressants are prescription drugs, for a reason.

They are NOT risk free, and all have possible side

effects. The SSRI's can cause nausea, headache,

insomnia, dry mouth, anxiety, tinnitus, and many other

minor problems. They are well known for their sexual

side effects, including decreased libido, difficulty

reaching orgasm, ejaculation failure and impotence.

They also have some more serious risks, such as

hypertension, myocardial infarction, etc, and in the

case of Prozac even death has been recorded. Info on

Zoloft states that it is heavily metabolized by the

liver and may cause altered liver function and dose

reductions are often required with cirrhosis.

Wellbutruin (Zyban), an aminodetone class

antidepressant, has also been associated with

seizures. Amitriptyline (Elavil), a tricyclic

antidepressant, has also been associated with

cardiovascular disorders, peripheral neuropathy,

altered platelets, and altered liver function tests.

And some of these do have mild side effects when

discontinued. Headaches, dizziness, and irritability

can occur with the discontinuation of Prozac, and

amitriptyline requires gradual dose reduction to avoid

problems when discontinuing. Also, most of these have

not been studied in those with chronic illnesses. You

can look up any of these medication at

http://www.rxlist.com. Click onto the generic name on

the left, and look under precautions, warnings, and

the section on adverse events. (Precautions and

warnings is the more serious stuff.) I only mentioned

a very few of the possible side effects and risks.

Something else to consider is how much experience

your GI has with these medications. The SSRI's are

all fairly new, and he may not know much more than

what the drug salesman has told him. It seems like

often the doctors are prescribing the same medication

to everyone, regardless of the type of depressive

symptoms that a person is exhibiting, yet a good

psychiatrist would consider the symptoms and prescribe

the appropriate drug. NOT a 'one for all' approach.

(Maybe this is why so many have to try several before

lucking into the right one?)

I am not saying that a person should look at all

these possible side effects and issues and decide to

refuse an antidepressant, just that you should be

aware of them, and consider carefully before adding

one more drug for your body to deal with. Most people

will NOT have a problem with any of these drugs. But I

would look it up and read everything on it before I

swallowed one! And I wouldn't take one if I didn't

need it.

One more thing - while I suspect that most all of

us have at least some minor depression simply because

we have this chronic disease, and all the feelings and

quality of life issues that go with it, not everyone

who goes on treatment has depression, at least not bad

enough to need an antidepressant. Just like all the

side effects of the antidepressants, which only occur

in some people, depression as a side effect of

treatment only occurs in some, not all. Just like we

often only hear all the negative physical side effects

on these lists, the people who are getting along fine

mentally may not need these groups as much as the ones

having problems. So we shouldn't assume that everyone

will need an antidepressant, even though many will

benefit from one.

=====

Claudine

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With all the pros of antidepressants being

stated, I thought I should mention a few of the cons.

I think it's important to remember that

antidepressants are prescription drugs, for a reason.

They are NOT risk free, and all have possible side

effects. The SSRI's can cause nausea, headache,

insomnia, dry mouth, anxiety, tinnitus, and many other

minor problems. They are well known for their sexual

side effects, including decreased libido, difficulty

reaching orgasm, ejaculation failure and impotence.

They also have some more serious risks, such as

hypertension, myocardial infarction, etc, and in the

case of Prozac even death has been recorded. Info on

Zoloft states that it is heavily metabolized by the

liver and may cause altered liver function and dose

reductions are often required with cirrhosis.

Wellbutruin (Zyban), an aminodetone class

antidepressant, has also been associated with

seizures. Amitriptyline (Elavil), a tricyclic

antidepressant, has also been associated with

cardiovascular disorders, peripheral neuropathy,

altered platelets, and altered liver function tests.

And some of these do have mild side effects when

discontinued. Headaches, dizziness, and irritability

can occur with the discontinuation of Prozac, and

amitriptyline requires gradual dose reduction to avoid

problems when discontinuing. Also, most of these have

not been studied in those with chronic illnesses. You

can look up any of these medication at

http://www.rxlist.com. Click onto the generic name on

the left, and look under precautions, warnings, and

the section on adverse events. (Precautions and

warnings is the more serious stuff.) I only mentioned

a very few of the possible side effects and risks.

Something else to consider is how much experience

your GI has with these medications. The SSRI's are

all fairly new, and he may not know much more than

what the drug salesman has told him. It seems like

often the doctors are prescribing the same medication

to everyone, regardless of the type of depressive

symptoms that a person is exhibiting, yet a good

psychiatrist would consider the symptoms and prescribe

the appropriate drug. NOT a 'one for all' approach.

(Maybe this is why so many have to try several before

lucking into the right one?)

I am not saying that a person should look at all

these possible side effects and issues and decide to

refuse an antidepressant, just that you should be

aware of them, and consider carefully before adding

one more drug for your body to deal with. Most people

will NOT have a problem with any of these drugs. But I

would look it up and read everything on it before I

swallowed one! And I wouldn't take one if I didn't

need it.

One more thing - while I suspect that most all of

us have at least some minor depression simply because

we have this chronic disease, and all the feelings and

quality of life issues that go with it, not everyone

who goes on treatment has depression, at least not bad

enough to need an antidepressant. Just like all the

side effects of the antidepressants, which only occur

in some people, depression as a side effect of

treatment only occurs in some, not all. Just like we

often only hear all the negative physical side effects

on these lists, the people who are getting along fine

mentally may not need these groups as much as the ones

having problems. So we shouldn't assume that everyone

will need an antidepressant, even though many will

benefit from one.

=====

Claudine

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With all the pros of antidepressants being

stated, I thought I should mention a few of the cons.

I think it's important to remember that

antidepressants are prescription drugs, for a reason.

They are NOT risk free, and all have possible side

effects. The SSRI's can cause nausea, headache,

insomnia, dry mouth, anxiety, tinnitus, and many other

minor problems. They are well known for their sexual

side effects, including decreased libido, difficulty

reaching orgasm, ejaculation failure and impotence.

They also have some more serious risks, such as

hypertension, myocardial infarction, etc, and in the

case of Prozac even death has been recorded. Info on

Zoloft states that it is heavily metabolized by the

liver and may cause altered liver function and dose

reductions are often required with cirrhosis.

Wellbutruin (Zyban), an aminodetone class

antidepressant, has also been associated with

seizures. Amitriptyline (Elavil), a tricyclic

antidepressant, has also been associated with

cardiovascular disorders, peripheral neuropathy,

altered platelets, and altered liver function tests.

And some of these do have mild side effects when

discontinued. Headaches, dizziness, and irritability

can occur with the discontinuation of Prozac, and

amitriptyline requires gradual dose reduction to avoid

problems when discontinuing. Also, most of these have

not been studied in those with chronic illnesses. You

can look up any of these medication at

http://www.rxlist.com. Click onto the generic name on

the left, and look under precautions, warnings, and

the section on adverse events. (Precautions and

warnings is the more serious stuff.) I only mentioned

a very few of the possible side effects and risks.

Something else to consider is how much experience

your GI has with these medications. The SSRI's are

all fairly new, and he may not know much more than

what the drug salesman has told him. It seems like

often the doctors are prescribing the same medication

to everyone, regardless of the type of depressive

symptoms that a person is exhibiting, yet a good

psychiatrist would consider the symptoms and prescribe

the appropriate drug. NOT a 'one for all' approach.

(Maybe this is why so many have to try several before

lucking into the right one?)

I am not saying that a person should look at all

these possible side effects and issues and decide to

refuse an antidepressant, just that you should be

aware of them, and consider carefully before adding

one more drug for your body to deal with. Most people

will NOT have a problem with any of these drugs. But I

would look it up and read everything on it before I

swallowed one! And I wouldn't take one if I didn't

need it.

One more thing - while I suspect that most all of

us have at least some minor depression simply because

we have this chronic disease, and all the feelings and

quality of life issues that go with it, not everyone

who goes on treatment has depression, at least not bad

enough to need an antidepressant. Just like all the

side effects of the antidepressants, which only occur

in some people, depression as a side effect of

treatment only occurs in some, not all. Just like we

often only hear all the negative physical side effects

on these lists, the people who are getting along fine

mentally may not need these groups as much as the ones

having problems. So we shouldn't assume that everyone

will need an antidepressant, even though many will

benefit from one.

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Claudine

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Claudine,

Thanks for the information. You have a lot of great points. I am still not

sure what I am going to do. I am hoping an answer will appear to me during

one of my sleepless nights! HA! LOL! :)

Staying positive, TWO more days.

Lora

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Claudine,

Thanks for the information. You have a lot of great points. I am still not

sure what I am going to do. I am hoping an answer will appear to me during

one of my sleepless nights! HA! LOL! :)

Staying positive, TWO more days.

Lora

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Dear Lora,

I was not saying DON'T take them, just to make an

informed decision. My sister and my 16 year old

stepson are on antidepressants and they were

lifesavers for both. (Especially for my stepson who

lives with us. He doesn't realize I was ready to kill

him before he got on them!! LOL ).

Claudine

--- Lorad8@... wrote:

> Claudine,

> Thanks for the information. You have a lot of great

> points. I am still not

> sure what I am going to do. I am hoping an answer

> will appear to me during

> one of my sleepless nights! HA! LOL! :)

> Staying positive, TWO more days.

> Lora

>

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Dear Lora,

I was not saying DON'T take them, just to make an

informed decision. My sister and my 16 year old

stepson are on antidepressants and they were

lifesavers for both. (Especially for my stepson who

lives with us. He doesn't realize I was ready to kill

him before he got on them!! LOL ).

Claudine

--- Lorad8@... wrote:

> Claudine,

> Thanks for the information. You have a lot of great

> points. I am still not

> sure what I am going to do. I am hoping an answer

> will appear to me during

> one of my sleepless nights! HA! LOL! :)

> Staying positive, TWO more days.

> Lora

>

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  • 1 year later...

I had to laugh when I read your " ,my mood swings

have ended,no one it tip toeing around me any

more,things seem to be better " Me too.<br>I started Paxil and

elavil last month and it is nice not to be so edge all

the time. and I now leave my hubbys head on his

sholders ( you know what I mean) lol

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I had to laugh when I read your " ,my mood swings

have ended,no one it tip toeing around me any

more,things seem to be better " Me too.<br>I started Paxil and

elavil last month and it is nice not to be so edge all

the time. and I now leave my hubbys head on his

sholders ( you know what I mean) lol

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I take Paxil in the am and 10 mg of Elvial at night. The combination

is working for me.( at least Im not a bear to be around everyday) lol

I was just started on Vistral and phenergan for side effects of Peg.

It seems to be working too.

I do have some shaking from the elvial but the Doc. said that should

go away. My Doc also uses xanax and prozac with a few other patients.

He says that what to use depends upon a persons symtoms. Paxil works

better with anxiety and agressiveness. and prozac works bettter with

depression. ( at least that is what he told me) I am sure that these

drugs all have different effects on different people. I did read

somewhere that Elavil can elavate Liver levels.

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I take Paxil in the am and 10 mg of Elvial at night. The combination

is working for me.( at least Im not a bear to be around everyday) lol

I was just started on Vistral and phenergan for side effects of Peg.

It seems to be working too.

I do have some shaking from the elvial but the Doc. said that should

go away. My Doc also uses xanax and prozac with a few other patients.

He says that what to use depends upon a persons symtoms. Paxil works

better with anxiety and agressiveness. and prozac works bettter with

depression. ( at least that is what he told me) I am sure that these

drugs all have different effects on different people. I did read

somewhere that Elavil can elavate Liver levels.

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My rheumy has put me on Fluoxetin 20 mg once a day and 1/2 Trazodone 100 mg

at bedtime. No painkillers, since Celebrex has become ineffective.

Any comments on this sort of pain management?

Jacinta A.S. Portugal.

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Jacinta, How is it working for you? Anti-depressants do help with pain,

but I wouldn't think that it would be enough for AS. It seems like the

rheumatologist should be treating the AS disease as well.

I take Remeron, which is also an anti-depressant, but that by itself

definitely wouldn't do it for me.

Regards,

Janet in SF, CA, USA

ReA since 1973; diagnosed 1997

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In a message dated 7/31/2003 10:09:32 PM Pacific Standard Time,

voices@... writes:

> Fluoxetin is generic Prozac

Adrienne cannot take Fluoxetin for pain. It doesn't work for her. She must

have the name brand Prozac. Her neurologist told us apparently there is just

enough minimal difference in the two, that her chronic pain patients require

the name brand.

Our insurance doesn't like that... so we must pay 50% of the prescription

costs on that drug.

I hope the generic works better for others.

K

Adrienne's Mom

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Hi, Jacinta,

Fluoxetin is generic Prozac. Combined with 50 mg of Trazodone at

night, this should help you sleep better. Many people have mentioned that

getting better rest at night really goes a long way toward helping with the

pain.

Dianne

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Thx everybody. One thing about taking 50 mg Trazodone is that it makes me so

sleepy in the morning! But I do sleep deeply, so it is working. As for

lessening the pain it is a bit early to say that. Since I have to rise up

and shine, besides thinking and acting fast: I have two teenagers at home,

one of them with hyperactivity, six cats and a german shepherd dog, all of

them to feed and take care of, I guess I'll reduce it to 25 mg an see what

happens.

Any ideas on newsgroups with people whose parents are old and dying?

I need to share some thoughts about my mother.

Have a bright day!

Jacinta

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Jacinte, have you tried a search on groups? I know I have seen such

support groups around on death, dying and parents. Sorry I can't be more

helpful. You might also try your local United Way to see if there are services

available. Matt

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In a message dated 8/4/2004 2:08:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

psita@... writes:

Be wary of antidepressants

On this one, I have to agree with Terry. I tried Paxel at my request. I

shouldn't have done that and quit taking them before things got too out of hand.

I found they made me MORE depressed rather than less so. I think it just

depends on how your body chemistry responds to whatever drug you are taking.

Anne

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In a message dated 8/4/2004 2:08:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

psita@... writes:

Be wary of antidepressants

On this one, I have to agree with Terry. I tried Paxel at my request. I

shouldn't have done that and quit taking them before things got too out of hand.

I found they made me MORE depressed rather than less so. I think it just

depends on how your body chemistry responds to whatever drug you are taking.

Anne

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In a message dated 8/4/2004 2:08:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

psita@... writes:

Be wary of antidepressants

On this one, I have to agree with Terry. I tried Paxel at my request. I

shouldn't have done that and quit taking them before things got too out of hand.

I found they made me MORE depressed rather than less so. I think it just

depends on how your body chemistry responds to whatever drug you are taking.

Anne

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In a message dated 8/4/2004 2:08:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

psita@... writes:

Be wary of antidepressants

On this one, I have to agree with Terry. I tried Paxel at my request. I

shouldn't have done that and quit taking them before things got too out of hand.

I found they made me MORE depressed rather than less so. I think it just

depends on how your body chemistry responds to whatever drug you are taking.

Anne

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I have been on both Paxil and Lexapro and for me Lexapro was the right choice!

My sister is also on Lexapro and it works for her! However, neither Prozac or

Lexapro worked for my dad, who is now happy on Wellbutrin and my mother is on

Amitryptilyne...so, I guess it is a personal choice. Good luck!

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options? How serious are the side effects?

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