Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 I think alot of doctors are keen on Lexapro now, as far as what the best ones, and Zoloft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 B " H Thanks very much for sharing those names. I am going to try to find out more about these options. Does your father have any idea why Lexapro and Prozac didn't work for him? > B " H > > > Hi my name is and I am considering starting an antidepressant drug. Does anyone have any suggestions? Is Lexarpo the best option or are there other options? How serious are the side effects? > > Thanks. > > > > " Tracht Gut vet zein gut " think good, it will be good (the Tzemach Tzedeck) > > Frimer > 905 763 3915 > > http://www.moshiach.ca > redemption_time/ > http://www.chabad.info/ > http://www.yiddishkeit.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 I lost weight on Wellbutrin XL but no change with Lexapro. > > Did you gain weight or feel hungrier on Lexapro or Paxil?? > > Vicki > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 B " H have you (or anyone else) heard of Melatonin? Is it any good? Frimer <aharonbenjamin@...> wrote: B " H Thanks very much for sharing those names. I am going to try to find out more about these options. Does your father have any idea why Lexapro and Prozac didn't work for him? > B " H > > > Hi my name is and I am considering starting an antidepressant drug. Does anyone have any suggestions? Is Lexarpo the best option or are there other options? How serious are the side effects? > > Thanks. > > > > " Tracht Gut vet zein gut " think good, it will be good (the Tzemach Tzedeck) > > Frimer > 905 763 3915 > > http://www.moshiach.ca > redemption_time/ > http://www.chabad.info/ > http://www.yiddishkeit.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 I am on Lex and Wel.SR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Hi Rosie, How did you find the escitalopram? Was it recommended by a GP or Consultant? They won't prescribe it here for my son, they just use citalopram, which contains one 'optical' isomer that is useless as an antidepressant and it doubles the amount of fluorocarbon drug that the patient has to take. I hope that's not an intrusive question, please disregard if so; but I do think my son's problem has been thyroid related all along; they just treat it as 'depresssion' ~ he's colour blind (red/green) which I understand may associate with a thyroid hormone receptor problem. best wishes Bob > > We often seem to talk about antidepressants here. And a common theme > is the way that doctors like to push them onto us even when > depression is but a symptom of being hypo... and even when we aren't > depressed at all. > > But I am only too grateful for my antidepressants; I have had > lifelong (and I mean lifelong) depression, and since I've been on > antidepressants the last four years, I've been so much better. This > is honestly the only time in my life I haven't been crippled with > depression. > > Four years ago I went on sertraline, then a few months back I > switched to escalitopram which is working much better for me. > > I dunno what my point is really. I'm very grateful for this > appropriate medication. But I would also be very pleased if I didn't > have to be on them forever. I would like very much to think that > when the hypoT is sorted, I might be able to get off the > antidepressants. > > Does anybody know of anyone who successfully escaped depression by > sorting out hypoT? > > Rosie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Hi Rosie From the study though, it seems that many people on these modern antidepressants had a placebo effect. Those on the real thing said they felt better and those on placebo's also said they felt better - there was no difference between them. What is going to happen to those people who genuinely need to real thing and their doctor (after reading this report and all the publicity involved plus the actual cost to the NHS) decides that they don't. Will they carry on prescribing? Luv - Sheila But I am only too grateful for my antidepressants; I have had lifelong (and I mean lifelong) depression, and since I've been on antidepressants the last four years, I've been so much better. This is honestly the only time in my life I haven't been crippled with depression. .. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1299 - Release Date: 26/02/2008 09:08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 " Rosiebint " <rosie@...> wrote: > Does anybody know of anyone who successfully escaped depression by > sorting out hypoT? > Rosie Hi Rosie I think I've also had a lifelong tendency towards depression. It then became very acute after the birth of my son (diagnosed as post- natal depression, although I now think that hypoT was playing a major part in causing it). I was on and off antidepressants for 7 years. Once I got a diagnosis of hypoT and started treatment, the depression eased and I came off the antidepressants 5 years ago, about a year after starting thyroxine. Right now,I'm now back to struggling with some of the depression coming back, alongside lots of other hypoT symptoms. I'm in the process of trying to address it with adrenal support and switching to Armour. So, for me, I'd say hypoT is a key root cause of my depression symptoms, and when that's well treated, I don't need antidepressants. However, everyone is different, and depression probably has a different mix of causes for each individual. I guess all you can do is try to treat your hypoT as well as possible, using all the great info provided here and similar places. And fingers crossed that your depression is one of the symptoms that eventually melts away... All the best, Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Hi, The current research does say that antidepressants are only effective for the most SERIOUS cases. I was first misdiagnosed with depression ( euphemistically called baby blues) the pills only made me more sleepy, when I first complained of tiredness and weight gain ( it was of course not believed that I was overeating) Breast feeding mothers do not generally gain weight- they lose it. I only got a diagnosis when my mother told me of the family history and to demand a test from my doc. He was sceptical until TSH came back at 126! I actually got an apology!!!!!!!!!! Where this really causes problems is when the hypo does not show up on the TSH leading to long term misdiagnosis. It is T3 that causes the lifting of mood- I remember the first wonderful day when it kicked in after 17 years of deteriorating health on T4 only. I'm not sure what clinical depression feels like but I was numb and listless and my son didn't think I had a sense of humour at all. Shortly after treatment with T3 started I remember falling off the sofa laughing at something ridiculous on Tv, A hysterical release after years of being unable to 'let go' I think. Subject: Antidepressants I dunno what my point is really. I'm very grateful for this appropriate medication. But I would also be very pleased if I didn't have to be on them forever. I would like very much to think that when the hypoT is sorted, I might be able to get off the antidepressants. Does anybody know of anyone who successfully escaped depression by sorting out hypoT? Rosie Messages are not a substitute for professional medical advice. Always consult with a suitably qualified practitioner before changing medication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Thank you Rosie, I think they got their k******* twisted over it at the PCT. best wishes Bob > > > > > > Hi Rosie, > > > > How did you find the escitalopram? > > Was it recommended by a GP or Consultant? > > A GP. And then I talked it over with my local pharmacist, and he > thought that escalitopram was a better choice than Effexor. > > I have been seeing a GP (private) for my thyroid stuff but he's so > good, so helpful. We were discussing the recurring depression. I'd > been on sertraline for four years and it had worked like magic to > start with but I'd had to keep increasing the dose to lesser effect, > and by last autumn was up to the max dose & still feeling pretty > bad. He suggested Escalitopram or Effexor but didnit prescribe it > because he couldn't give me a NHS prescription. Fortunately my NHS > GP played ball & switched me to Escalitopram and I'm doing much > better on it. > > > They won't prescribe it here for my son, they just use citalopram, > > which contains one 'optical' isomer that is useless as an > > antidepressant and it doubles the amount of fluorocarbon drug that > > the patient has to take. > > Won't prescribe it? Whyever not? That's bonkers. As I understand > it, Escalitopram is generic Lexapro, so is hardly expensive. > > > Rosie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 I think you've hit the nail on the head Judith. Luv - Shgeila Hi there Sheila, my oldist son is taking antidepressant drug andanti-convalsants - he only suffers from bad ansiety.the anti-convalsants are only licenced for epelapsy .they can give inaprpriate drugs to people with learning difficultiesas they no that they cannot complain.makes you think how many are being given drugs, so they don`t make afuss for the carers. angel. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1299 - Release Date: 26/02/2008 09:08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 i have been on 4 grains of armour and 150mcg thyroxine for years but still have to take 200mg sertraline a day for depression, and 5mg diazepam and 7.5mg zopiclone to get to sleep. i still have social anxiety and self harm. i dont think these symptoms will ever go away. i am unable to work because i can't bear people looking at me or talking to me, so i have to live on state benefits and bring up 2 boys. i have 2 very close friends who are like a brother and sister to me but i feel that i am a burden to them. i hope things work out better for you thou. sian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Hi Rosie Am doing the experiment at the moment. I know I am depressed but hope that with the start of armour thyroid this will sort it out and I will not need a depressants. It has been hard to stave them off this year and I have tried 4 different doctors in the practice - all of them have said my symptoms are depression not thyroid although I have been told that I will need thyroxine one day as I have high antibodies (over 1000), TSH upwards from 4-6, low T4 - make up your minds. I am seeing a psychiatric nurse later in March - my doctor wants me to be assessed and I am open to it - any ideas gratefully received. She is looking at the overeating history but it may all be thyroid from what I can glean on the site - self medicating. Really questioning the NHS and GP knowledge .... Luv Keri > > We often seem to talk about antidepressants here. And a common theme > is the way that doctors like to push them onto us even when > depression is but a symptom of being hypo... and even when we aren't > depressed at all. > > But I am only too grateful for my antidepressants; I have had > lifelong (and I mean lifelong) depression, and since I've been on > antidepressants the last four years, I've been so much better. This > is honestly the only time in my life I haven't been crippled with > depression. > > Four years ago I went on sertraline, then a few months back I > switched to escalitopram which is working much better for me. > > I dunno what my point is really. I'm very grateful for this > appropriate medication. But I would also be very pleased if I didn't > have to be on them forever. I would like very much to think that > when the hypoT is sorted, I might be able to get off the > antidepressants. > > Does anybody know of anyone who successfully escaped depression by > sorting out hypoT? > > Rosie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 > > i have been on 4 grains of armour and 150mcg thyroxine for years > but still have to take 200mg sertraline a day for depression Well, I was good on 100mg sertraline for a long time but had to keep going up until I was on 200mg & not feeling well any more, and that's when I changed to Escalitopram, and I'm doing much better on it. Why don't you see if your GP (or whoever it is prescribes for you) will let you try switching? 4 grains armour & 150ug thyroxine sounds like a heck of a dose. Do you feel well on that, besides the depression & social anxiety issues? > i still have social anxiety and self harm. i dont think these > symptoms will ever go away. i am unable to work because i can't > bear people looking at me or talking to me, so i have to live on > state > benefits and bring up 2 boys. i have 2 very close friends who are > like a brother and sister to me but i feel that i am a burden to > them. i hope things work out better for you thou. I sound like a broken record, but could this be adrenal issues? The not being able to bear people looking at you or talking to you I have too (why else are most of my transactions on the web?) My DH - who often is not allowed to look at me or talk to me - thinks I am an Aspie but I don't; I reckon it's adrenal fatigue. Rosie... also a square peg in the round holes of society Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Hi Sian, Suggest you have a look at T3. There may not be enough T3 in the Armour for you and the thyroxine may not be helping at all if you can't convert T4 to T3. T3 has a profound effect on mood. Subject: Re: Antidepressants i have been on 4 grains of armour and 150mcg thyroxine for years but still have to take 200mg sertraline a day for depression, and 5mg diazepam and 7.5mg zopiclone to get to sleep. i still have social anxiety and self harm. i dont think these symptoms will ever go away. i am unable to work because i can't bear people looking at me or talking to me, so i have to live on state benefits and bring up 2 boys. i have 2 very close friends who are like a brother and sister to me but i feel that i am a burden to them. i hope things work out better for you thou. sian Messages are not a substitute for professional medical advice. Always consult with a suitably qualified practitioner before changing medication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 > I have tried 4 different doctors in the practice - all > of them have said my symptoms are depression not thyroid although I > have been told that I will need thyroxine one day as I have high > antibodies (over 1000), TSH upwards from 4-6, low T4 - make up your > minds. I am not an expert in Hashi's but I am sure I have read somethung about keeping the antibodies in check - and hence destruction of the thyroid slowed - by taking thyroxine. I think you need thyroxine now rather than later. Can anybody more knowledgeable please comment? GOD with high antibodies like that, how can four doctors all dismiss your problems as depression? Makes me really cross, so it does. > She is looking at the overeating history but it may all be thyroid > from what I can glean on the site - self medicating. Jeez that sounds like me too. I'm at the point now where I've given up even trying to control it. I need it, for some reason, and that's that. At the mo I'm concentrating on surviving & getting my meds right (can't see the light at the end of the tunnel there); when that's sorted, as I have to keep believing it will be, is the time to get behavioural issues in hand. Rosie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 That is just what I was thinking . Sian, have you ever considered just moving over to take T3 only. The amount of synthetic and natural thyroid hormones you are taking is very high and obviously, something isn't working. Many people like you have a conversion block, and this is why T3 only works better for them. Luv - Sheila Subject: Re: Antidepressantsi have been on 4 grains of armour and 150mcg thyroxine for years but still have to take 200mg sertraline a day for depression, and 5mg diazepam and 7.5mg zopiclone to get to sleep. i still have social anxiety and self harm. i dont think these symptoms will ever go away. i am unable to work because i can't bear people looking at me or talking to me, so i have to live on state benefits and bring up 2 boys. i have 2 very close friends who are like a brother and sister to me but i feel that i am a burden to them. i hope things work out better for you thou.sianMessages are not a substitute for professional medical advice. Alwaysconsult with a suitably qualified practitioner before changing medication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 > Is your b12 ok. Mine was 175 which > is only border line but it had a terrible effect on my mood. When my > b12 is in the 1,000's I feel much better. No my B12 is not ok; I know this. I had a doc a few years back who put me on a course of B12 injections but I just couldn't take them; I was literally vomiting with the stress - if the needles she'd given me had be smaller I might have coped but they were big enough for a rhino. Wish I knew how to try this again (with smaller needles). I'm sure Dr P would be agreeable but he doesn't prescribe, does he? And there's no point asking my regular GP. Rosie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 You could take B12 1000 mgs orally Rosie. Have you tried this. I take Solgar brand. These are sublingual. Luv - Sheila > Is your b12 ok. Mine was 175 which> is only border line but it had a terrible effect on my mood. When my> b12 is in the 1,000's I feel much better.No my B12 is not ok; I know this. I had a doc a few years back who put me on a course of B12 injections but I just couldn't take them; I was literally vomiting with the stress - if the needles she'd given me had be smaller I might have coped but they were big enough for a rhino.Wish I knew how to try this again (with smaller needles). I'm sure Dr P would be agreeable but he doesn't prescribe, does he? And there's no point asking my regular GP.Rosie No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1302 - Release Date: 27/02/2008 16:34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 > > You could take B12 1000 mgs orally Rosie. Have you tried this. I take > Solgar brand. These are sublingual. Ah no I haven't good idea. If I take Armour first thing in the morning & 2pm-ish, and iron in the evening, when would you think a good time to take B12 please? Rosie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 i am taking what dr skinner said to take. he got my gp to do a lot of blood tests last summer and i sent him the results but have not heard from him. i know that he is busy with the bma thou. i have just cut my wrists again. it hurt s but i dony no why i keep doing this. i am sucj a failure sian > > That is just what I was thinking . Sian, have you ever considered just moving over to take T3 only. The amount of synthetic and natural thyroid hormones you are taking is very high and obviously, something isn't working. Many people like you have a conversion block, and this is why T3 only works better for them. > > Luv - Sheila > > > > > > Subject: Re: Antidepressants > > i have been on 4 grains of armour and 150mcg thyroxine for years but > still have to take 200mg sertraline a day for depression, and 5mg > diazepam and 7.5mg zopiclone to get to sleep. i still have social > anxiety and self harm. i dont think these symptoms will ever go away. i > am unable to work because i can't bear people looking at me or talking > to me, so i have to live on state benefits and bring up 2 boys. i have > 2 very close friends who are like a brother and sister to me but i feel > that i am a burden to them. i hope things work out better for you thou. > > sian > > Messages are not a substitute for professional medical advice. Always > consult with a suitably qualified practitioner before changing medication. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Hi Sian, Do you know if your zinc level is low...? That might have something to do with the problem of cutting yourself. If you have any zinc supplements in the house it would be worth using some, maybe about 15mg per day is usual, but it needs copper with it longer term... at a ratio of about 15 Zinc to 1 Copper.... and it may take a day or two before any improvements appear. Jen may be able to help, I'll try and get her to respond via email. There may be alternate therapies that Jen knows about. Feelings of worthlessness may very well be part of the low thyroid function and will respond to appropriate treatment, as usual, it takes time though. Don't be discouraged best wishes Bob > > > > That is just what I was thinking . Sian, have you ever > considered just moving over to take T3 only. The amount of synthetic > and natural thyroid hormones you are taking is very high and > obviously, something isn't working. Many people like you have a > conversion block, and this is why T3 only works better for them. > > > > Luv - Sheila > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Antidepressants > > > > i have been on 4 grains of armour and 150mcg thyroxine for years > but > > still have to take 200mg sertraline a day for depression, and 5mg > > diazepam and 7.5mg zopiclone to get to sleep. i still have social > > anxiety and self harm. i dont think these symptoms will ever go > away. i > > am unable to work because i can't bear people looking at me or > talking > > to me, so i have to live on state benefits and bring up 2 boys. i > have > > 2 very close friends who are like a brother and sister to me but > i feel > > that i am a burden to them. i hope things work out better for you > thou. > > > > sian > > > > Messages are not a substitute for professional medical advice. > Always > > consult with a suitably qualified practitioner before changing > medication. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Hi Sian PLEASE do phone Dr Skinner tomorrow on 0121 449 8895 and remind him that he has not responded regarding your blood tests. You need desperately to get your treatment sorted. He is back to normal now that the GMC case has been completed. As you sent the blood results to him, did you keep a copy of them, and if so, can you post them here so we can probably help you interpret them? Are you undergoing any treatment to help you with your desire to self harm. This must be so very hard for you. and this has been something you have been troubled with for so long now. You are NOT a failure Sian, you are a wonderful person and a wonderful mother who has two beautiful sons. How old are they now? You should post your photo with your boys on the beach that you posted on our previous forum so we can all see what a lovely family you are. Luv - Sheila i am taking what dr skinner said to take. he got my gp to do a lot of blood tests last summer and i sent him the results but have not heard from him. i know that he is busy with the bma thou. i have just cut my wrists again. it hurt s but i dony no why i keep doing this. i am sucj a failuresian> .. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1306 - Release Date: 01/03/2008 17:41 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Hi Sian, You are not a failure- you are ill. Make another appointment to see Dr. Skinner as soon as possible- you cannot go on like this. Re: Antidepressants i am taking what dr skinner said to take. he got my gp to do a lot of blood tests last summer and i sent him the results but have not heard from him. i know that he is busy with the bma thou. i have just cut my wrists again. it hurt s but i dony no why i keep doing this. i am sucj a failure sian > > That is just what I was thinking . Sian, have you ever considered just moving over to take T3 only. The amount of synthetic and natural thyroid hormones you are taking is very high and obviously, something isn't working. Many people like you have a conversion block, and this is why T3 only works better for them. > > Luv - Sheila > > > > > > Subject: Re: Antidepressants > > i have been on 4 grains of armour and 150mcg thyroxine for years but > still have to take 200mg sertraline a day for depression, and 5mg > diazepam and 7.5mg zopiclone to get to sleep. i still have social > anxiety and self harm. i dont think these symptoms will ever go away. i > am unable to work because i can't bear people looking at me or talking > to me, so i have to live on state benefits and bring up 2 boys. i have > 2 very close friends who are like a brother and sister to me but i feel > that i am a burden to them. i hope things work out better for you thou. > > sian > > Messages are not a substitute for professional medical advice. Always > consult with a suitably qualified practitioner before changing medication. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 I am taking Lexapro & I am on phase 4. I have lost 52 lbs. Did not have a problem at all. Lori From: jade32108 <gekkoxzoi@...>Subject: antidepressants Date: Saturday, June 27, 2009, 5:13 PM Does taking an antidepressant make a difference in the amount of weight you loose? Has anyone had any experience with that? I was told that smoking is not a good idea while on the drops either....any thoughts"tobacco"Any feedback would be appreciated. .....I started June 13 and am down 15 lbs. It's really amazing. Got my daughter-in- law to try it and she lost 36 pounds in the 42 days and is back in her size 6 pants....this works!Jade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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