Re: Pregnancy and Nutrition

January 26, 2011

>

> I am 35, just had my second child 16 months ago and now have unexpectedly

found out we will be having a third in 8 months.

+++Hi . Congratulations on having another baby!

>

> My last pregnancy took quite a bit out of me as I abandoned the plan

throughout. I have since been back on but I have a few questions.

>

> 1) I am still nursing my 16 mo. old- will this take too many nutrients during

my pregnancy. Should I stop?

> 2) What is the maximum amount of vitamin doses I can take on the plan?

>

> 3) Are there any high nutrient carbs that I could or should be on during

pregnancy even though they might not regularly be included in the plan?

>

> 4) Will this plan negatively affect my baby's weight gain?

1) It would be best to gradually wean your 16 month old off of the breast, since

he/she is old enough to have normal foods.

2) You take the same amount as anyone else on this program. I always say " more

is not better. " Taking more of any supplement throws off balances of so many

other nutrients, both from diet and supplements.

3) The highest and best form of nutrients humans can consume get are in animal

products, and not carbs, i.e. meats, eggs, and the good fats I recommend. Carb

are all plant foods, including vegetables. Carbs are not essential for anyone's

health anyway, and they all feed candida. However it is impractical to exclude

all carbs, so that's why the ones I recommend are lowest in carbs/sugars.

4) How could this plan negatively affect your baby's weight, since it will be

getting all of the great nutrients you are consuming. The problem with your

baby now is that it has already acquired both parents' poor " nutritional status "

and that's why both parents need to be healthy before conceiving a child.

>>>If there are any mom's out there who could share any experiences or support I

would appreciate that. I'm having a hard time adjusting to the thought of

another pregnancy and baby while trying to build my immunity and change my

candida.

+++You can search messages on this group since there are many other mothers who

have given advice.

+++You don't build immunity on this program; instead you are getting healthy

according to Nature's Laws on Health so your whole body is getting what it needs

in order to be healthy.

All the best, Bee

January 27, 2011

Hi Bee,

I am curious as to why you are suggesting she wean her child? Is it concern she

will be over taxing her body too much with nursing, Candida and pregnancy?

> >

> > I am 35, just had my second child 16 months ago and now have unexpectedly

found out we will be having a third in 8 months.

>

> +++Hi . Congratulations on having another baby!

> >

> > My last pregnancy took quite a bit out of me as I abandoned the plan

throughout. I have since been back on but I have a few questions.

> >

> > 1) I am still nursing my 16 mo. old- will this take too many nutrients

during my pregnancy. Should I stop?

>

> > 2) What is the maximum amount of vitamin doses I can take on the plan?

> >

> > 3) Are there any high nutrient carbs that I could or should be on during

pregnancy even though they might not regularly be included in the plan?

> >

> > 4) Will this plan negatively affect my baby's weight gain?

>

> 1) It would be best to gradually wean your 16 month old off of the breast,

since he/she is old enough to have normal foods.

>

> 2) You take the same amount as anyone else on this program. I always say

" more is not better. " Taking more of any supplement throws off balances of so

many other nutrients, both from diet and supplements.

>

> 3) The highest and best form of nutrients humans can consume get are in animal

products, and not carbs, i.e. meats, eggs, and the good fats I recommend. Carb

are all plant foods, including vegetables. Carbs are not essential for anyone's

health anyway, and they all feed candida. However it is impractical to exclude

all carbs, so that's why the ones I recommend are lowest in carbs/sugars.

>

> 4) How could this plan negatively affect your baby's weight, since it will be

getting all of the great nutrients you are consuming. The problem with your

baby now is that it has already acquired both parents' poor " nutritional status "

and that's why both parents need to be healthy before conceiving a child.

>

> >>>If there are any mom's out there who could share any experiences or support

I would appreciate that. I'm having a hard time adjusting to the thought of

another pregnancy and baby while trying to build my immunity and change my

candida.

>

> +++You can search messages on this group since there are many other mothers

who have given advice.

>

> +++You don't build immunity on this program; instead you are getting healthy

according to Nature's Laws on Health so your whole body is getting what it needs

in order to be healthy.

>

> All the best, Bee

>

January 27, 2011

I was going to comment on the same thing - if there is no reason to wean

for the sake of the candida diet, for either her or the baby, there is

no reason she needs to wean just because she's pregnant. Many women

nurse one child well into, and often beyond, the next child's pregnancy.

My advice would be if she wasn't planning to wean at this age, pregnancy

is not usually a reason to need to wean. If she's already looking to

wean, then pregnancy is a useful time, as milk production does often go

down.

On 1/27/2011 12:51 AM, the_goat_gal wrote:

>

> Hi Bee,

> I am curious as to why you are suggesting she wean her child? Is it

> concern she will be over taxing her body too much with nursing,

> Candida and pregnancy?

>

> > > 1) I am still nursing my 16 mo. old- will this take too many

> nutrients during my pregnancy. Should I stop?

> >

>

> >

> > 1) It would be best to gradually wean your 16 month old off of the

> breast, since he/she is old enough to have normal foods.

> >

>

January 27, 2011

>

> Hi Bee,

> I am curious as to why you are suggesting she wean her child? Is it concern

she will be over taxing her body too much with nursing, Candida and pregnancy?

>

+++Hi ,

Yes, it is because she has candida, which means she is very unhealthy, so her

body is already lacking the nutrients and strength it needs in order to support

a developing baby, and to add insult to injury she is also breastfeeding.

Dr. Weston A. Price writes the following in his book Nutrition and Physical

Degeneration, Chapter 17, One origin of physical deformities - available online:

http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library/price/price17.html

It is significant that while these important factors are just coming to light in

our modernized civilization, the evidence clearly indicates that several

so-called primitive races have been conscious of the need for safeguarding

motherhood from reproductive overloads which would reduce the capacity for

efficient reproduction. For example, G. T. Baden (3) in his book " Among the Ibos

of Nigeria " states:

It is not only a matter of disgrace but an actual abomination, for an Ibo woman

to bear children at shorter intervals than about three years. . . . The idea of

a fixed minimum period between births is based on several sound principles. The

belief prevails strongly that it is necessary for this interval to elapse in

order to ensure the mother being able to recuperate her strength completely, and

thus be in a thoroughly fit condition to bear another child. Should a second

child be born within the prescribed period the theory is held that it must

inevitably be weak and sickly, and its chances jeopardized.

Similarly, the Indians of Peru, Ecuador and Columbia have been familiar with the

necessity of preventing pregnancy overloads of the mother. Whiffen (4) in his

book " North-West Amazons " states:

The numbers (of pregnant women) are remarkable in view of the fact that husbands

abstain from any intercourse with their wives, not only during pregnancy but

also throughout the period of lactation--far more prolonged with them than with

Europeans. The result is that two and a half years between each child is the

minimum difference of age, and in the majority of cases it is even greater.

It may also be important to note that the Amazon Indians have been conscious of

the fact that these matters are related to the nutrition of both parents.

Whiffen states that:

These Indians share the belief of many peoples of the lower cultures that the

food eaten by the parents--to some degree of both parents--will have a definite

influence upon the birth, appearance, or character of the child.

This problem of the consciousness among primitives of the need for spacing

children has been emphasized by Brown (5) in his studies among

Melanesians and Polynesians in which he reports relative to the natives on one

of the Islands as follows:

After the birth of a child the husband was not supposed to cohabit with his wife

until the child could walk. If a child was weak or sickly, the people would say,

speaking of the parents, " Ah, well, they have only themselves to blame. "

All the best, Bee

January 27, 2011

>

> I was going to comment on the same thing - if there is no reason to wean

> for the sake of the candida diet, for either her or the baby, there is

> no reason she needs to wean just because she's pregnant. Many women

> nurse one child well into, and often beyond, the next child's pregnancy.

>

> My advice would be if she wasn't planning to wean at this age, pregnancy

> is not usually a reason to need to wean. If she's already looking to

> wean, then pregnancy is a useful time, as milk production does often go

> down.

+++Hi ,

I suggest that you wait until I have replied to such messages before posting

your opinions - so please read my reply and see if you change your mind. See

Message #102025, posted today.

Cheers, Bee

January 27, 2011

Bee,

Once I wean my 16 mo old do you recommend me giving him cow's milk? I may be

able to get raw milk if that's better.

Though, I admittedly have far to go in my healing, your diet must be helping me

as this time we had one " slip up " and I got pregnant. With my second son it took

a year and a half of trying and my first son it took even longer. Too bad we

weren't trying this time:)

Anyway, hopefully that is encouraging for those who have struggled with

infertility.

> >

> > Hi Bee,

> > I am curious as to why you are suggesting she wean her child? Is it concern

she will be over taxing her body too much with nursing, Candida and pregnancy?

> >

> +++Hi ,

>

> Yes, it is because she has candida, which means she is very unhealthy, so her

body is already lacking the nutrients and strength it needs in order to support

a developing baby, and to add insult to injury she is also breastfeeding.

>

> Dr. Weston A. Price writes the following in his book Nutrition and Physical

Degeneration, Chapter 17, One origin of physical deformities - available online:

> http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library/price/price17.html

>

> It is significant that while these important factors are just coming to light

in our modernized civilization, the evidence clearly indicates that several

so-called primitive races have been conscious of the need for safeguarding

motherhood from reproductive overloads which would reduce the capacity for

efficient reproduction. For example, G. T. Baden (3) in his book " Among the Ibos

of Nigeria " states:

>

> It is not only a matter of disgrace but an actual abomination, for an Ibo

woman to bear children at shorter intervals than about three years. . . . The

idea of a fixed minimum period between births is based on several sound

principles. The belief prevails strongly that it is necessary for this interval

to elapse in order to ensure the mother being able to recuperate her strength

completely, and thus be in a thoroughly fit condition to bear another child.

Should a second child be born within the prescribed period the theory is held

that it must inevitably be weak and sickly, and its chances jeopardized.

>

> Similarly, the Indians of Peru, Ecuador and Columbia have been familiar with

the necessity of preventing pregnancy overloads of the mother. Whiffen (4) in

his book " North-West Amazons " states:

>

> The numbers (of pregnant women) are remarkable in view of the fact that

husbands abstain from any intercourse with their wives, not only during

pregnancy but also throughout the period of lactation--far more prolonged with

them than with Europeans. The result is that two and a half years between each

child is the minimum difference of age, and in the majority of cases it is even

greater.

>

> It may also be important to note that the Amazon Indians have been conscious

of the fact that these matters are related to the nutrition of both parents.

Whiffen states that:

>

> These Indians share the belief of many peoples of the lower cultures that the

food eaten by the parents--to some degree of both parents--will have a definite

influence upon the birth, appearance, or character of the child.

>

> This problem of the consciousness among primitives of the need for spacing

children has been emphasized by Brown (5) in his studies among

Melanesians and Polynesians in which he reports relative to the natives on one

of the Islands as follows:

>

> After the birth of a child the husband was not supposed to cohabit with his

wife until the child could walk. If a child was weak or sickly, the people would

say, speaking of the parents, " Ah, well, they have only themselves to blame. "

>

> All the best, Bee

>

January 27, 2011

>

> Bee,

>

> Once I wean my 16 mo old do you recommend me giving him cow's milk? I may be

able to get raw milk if that's better.

+++Hi . Since you have candida it is highly likely your 16 mo. old also

has candida. If that's the case, raw cow's milk isn't good, but you can give

him raw butter, coconut oil, even butter oil, etc. as recommended in Candida

Treatments for Babies and Children:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/baby.php

+++A 16 month old can get all of the nutrients needed eating the foods on this

program, plus recommended supplements for his age.

>

> Though, I admittedly have far to go in my healing, your diet must be helping

me as this time we had one " slip up " and I got pregnant. With my second son it

took a year and a half of trying and my first son it took even longer. Too bad

we weren't trying this time:) Anyway, hopefully that is encouraging for those

who have struggled with infertility.

+++Big oops, eh? But that is encouraging for others. Thank you !

The best in health, Bee

January 27, 2011

Sorry, Bee, didn't mean to jump ahead of you. Just merely stating that

under NORMAL circumstances, pregnancy is not a reason to wean, as many

people mistakenly think. Obviously, many of us on this list are not

under normal circumstances.

I did include the caveat " if there is no reason to wean for the sake of

the candida diet " , so I understand/understood that very well might be

reasoning to wean if following this program.

Again, sorry for over-stepping my bounds

>

> +++Hi ,

>

> I suggest that you wait until I have replied to such messages before

> posting your opinions - so please read my reply and see if you change

> your mind. See Message #102025, posted today.

>

> Cheers, Bee

>

January 27, 2011

>

> Sorry, Bee, didn't mean to jump ahead of you. Just merely stating that

> under NORMAL circumstances, pregnancy is not a reason to wean, as many

> people mistakenly think. Obviously, many of us on this list are not

> under normal circumstances.

> I did include the caveat " if there is no reason to wean for the sake of

> the candida diet " , so I understand/understood that very well might be

> reasoning to wean if following this program.

+++Hi ,

Apology accepted my friend. : )

However, the reason for weaning isn't because a person is on this program since

there is more to it than the fact the mother has candida and is very unhealthy.

Please read my Message #102025, posted today, so you understand.

Bee

January 27, 2011

Thank you, Bee!!

> >

> > Bee,

> >

> > Once I wean my 16 mo old do you recommend me giving him cow's milk? I may be

able to get raw milk if that's better.

>

> +++Hi . Since you have candida it is highly likely your 16 mo. old also

has candida. If that's the case, raw cow's milk isn't good, but you can give

him raw butter, coconut oil, even butter oil, etc. as recommended in Candida

Treatments for Babies and Children:

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/baby.php

>

> +++A 16 month old can get all of the nutrients needed eating the foods on this

program, plus recommended supplements for his age.

> >

> > Though, I admittedly have far to go in my healing, your diet must be helping

me as this time we had one " slip up " and I got pregnant. With my second son it

took a year and a half of trying and my first son it took even longer. Too bad

we weren't trying this time:) Anyway, hopefully that is encouraging for those

who have struggled with infertility.

>

> +++Big oops, eh? But that is encouraging for others. Thank you !

>

> The best in health, Bee

>

January 27, 2011

Interestingly Bee on this subject the UK Daily Mail ran this article on women

who get pregnant within a year of a previous pregnancy, being at higher risk of

producing a child with Autism. Whilst the scientists do not know why, they

speculate that lack of nutrition is to blame.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1345573/Autism-risk-trebles-conceive-1\

2-months.html

Of course, it is not just the mother who is affected but low nutrition, but the

baby too. If she does not have enough of certain elements to build the baby's

body properly then it is pretty logical that defects and deficiencies in the

baby will follow.

Ali.