Re: Environment is so important! Illness can occur in groups!!

January 15, 2011

Hi, i think you're confused. No one is saying illness doesn't occur in groups.

Sure it can, but it's not because people are " catching " it from one another. If

ten people live in a moldy house, most of them will probably be sick, but thats

because of the mold, not because of each other. Hope that clears that up for

you.

In good health,

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January 15, 2011

Ok, fair enoigh, also wanted to make the point thoughnthat it sooo important to

pay attention to symptoms and not chalk everything up to diet or retracing. I

see a friend getting sinus infection after sinus infection in a moldy house and

believes its retracing from zeolote. This retracing thing may or may not be

legit i dont know but i think it can be dangerous idea at times. There needs to

be more awareness of the shades of grey sometimes. Im just trying to spare

others of the pain im going through.

>

> Hi, i think you're confused. No one is saying illness doesn't occur in groups.

Sure it can, but it's not because people are " catching " it from one another. If

ten people live in a moldy house, most of them will probably be sick, but thats

because of the mold, not because of each other. Hope that clears that up for

you.

>

> In good health,

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

January 16, 2011

Hi khandalah

All is not lost, you can do this diet and improve your immune system and have

much improvement.

I also have MCS and am almost better mostly due to this diet. But I have had

further success specifically with the MCS. Some pretty new ideas are coming out

on this and some people are having success. Look into the Gupta program and how

it is related to the amygdala over firing. www.planetthrive.com has links to the

program and discussion groups.

Hope this will be of help and encouragement.

Laurie

>

> Hi all Bee,

>

> I love this group and diet but have to disagree about illness not occuring in

groups. When i first went on this diet i experienced a miraculous turn around in

health. That was three years ago, i thought by now i would be healed. Im not.

After moving into a moldy house and place of work i became very ill. All the

time i was thinking i just needed to be more strict on the diet. All the rashes,

irritations etc i saw as 'healing reactions or retracing' they really really

were not. They were warning signals!!!!!

>

> Im now disabled and unable to leave the house due to mcs. Im getting worse and

can only tolerate 8 foods.

>

> Environment is important, illness does run in groups, symtoms are not always

diet or healing related and may in fact be a huge warning signal. All this i

wish i had known and i wish i had known how horrific mould is. To my mind

candida is not a disease in itself its a symptom of a compromised immune system.

Maybe it was antibiotics that did it, maybe something else, it could just be

your environment. If others around you are getting ill that is another key.

>

> I hope this helps someone i dont want anyone to have suffered like me!!!!

>

January 16, 2011

>

> Hi all Bee,

>

> I love this group and diet but have to disagree about illness not occuring in

groups. When i first went on this diet i experienced a miraculous turn around in

health. That was three years ago, i thought by now i would be healed. Im not.

After moving into a moldy house and place of work i became very ill. All the

time i was thinking i just needed to be more strict on the diet. All the rashes,

irritations etc i saw as 'healing reactions or retracing' they really really

were not. They were warning signals!!!!!

+++Hi there. What is your name please? You are right that all rashes,

irritations, etc. are warning signals when you are becoming more and more

debilitated. In fact all of the disease processes are exactly the same as the

healing and detoxifying processes created by the body itself in an effort to

maintain its health, in spite of poor nutrition, toxins, etc.

+++Of course you would be worse by being constantly exposed to molds, and a more

strict diet won't help until you lessen your toxic load by avoiding molds or by

eliminating them in your environment until your body's toxic burden is less and

also your body becomes able to detoxify itself like it should.

Issues about molds has been in my Candida Article until recently, so when you

joined February 2007 it was still there, as follows:

Environmental molds can also adversely affect Candida sufferers and the only way

to minimize exposure is to remove as much as possible from your home. Molds are

simple, microscopic organisms, like Candida Albicans, whose purpose in the

ecosystem is to break down dead materials, and they are everywhere.

Molds reproduce by very tiny particles called spores. Spores are very light and

can travel on air currents. They need moisture, food, and a surface to grow on

and can be seen throughout the house, mostly in bathrooms. Mold growth can often

be seen in the form of discoloration, and can appear in many colors, i.e. white,

orange, pink, blue, green, black or brown.

Keep rooms dry, warm and light. Molds are living organisms that will only grow

in cold, dark, damp places, so if you have a recurrent mold problem, bring more

light, heat, or fans into the area to move the air.

For major mold problems, put a portable electric heater in the room, and turn it

to the highest setting. Close the door and let it bake all day or overnight. The

mold will dry up into a powder that brushes right off. For concentrated areas,

use a hand-held dryer to dry the mold in just a few minutes. This is not the

most energy-efficient method, but it will definitely solve the immediate

problem. If you are sensitive to molds you should get someone else to handle

such problems in your home, or wear gloves, protective clothing and a good face

mask.

Let textiles dry before storing. Hang wet towels after bathing to let them dry

before throwing them in the hamper. Hang clothes so there is space between them,

and if you don't launder clothing that is damp with perspiration, at least allow

it to dry before putting it back in the closet.

It is important to determine why mold is growing. Investigate any areas that are

moist, and repair the source of the moisture. There could be a roof or plumbing

leak, or groundwater leaking into the basement. Air duct systems could be

contaminated with mold. Clothes dryers generate humidity and should never be

vented inside the house. Substances that are porous can trap molds and if

contaminated should be thrown out, i.e. ceiling tiles, drywall, carpeting,

paper, rags, and wood. They are nearly impossible to clean and will produce

more spores when dry.

After making repairs, it is time to clean. For those who are extremely sensitive

to molds it is advisable to call professionals in to rid their homes of molds.

For those who can do their own cleaning, make your own mold and mildew remover.

Mix borax and water in a spray bottle (amounts to mix are indicated on the borax

box). Spray it on and the mold wipes right off. Borax inhibits mold growth, so

wash down the walls in your bathroom with a borax solution and just leave it on,

or sprinkle borax in damp cabinets under the sink. Do not use products that

contain formaldehyde, phenol, kerosene, pentachlorophenol. Note " DANGER " warning

on package label.

Wear gloves when handling moldy materials and also wear a particulate-removing

respirator or facemask. Also wear protective clothing that is easily cleaned or

may be discarded.

The only difference for people on this healthy program is they are now

progressing towards health rather than becoming more and more unhealthy, or

dis-eased, because they are giving their body what it needs to " be healthy "

according to Nature's Laws on Health.

A healthy program like this reverses the dis-ease processes, so the person will

experience healing and detoxifying symptoms which are now evidence their body is

healing itself and progressing towards health, rather than towards dis-ease -

see this article: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal10.php

The medical field labels each and every " sign " of poor health as separate

dis-eases, illnesses, symptoms, etc., however all of them are simply " signs " the

body is working hard to maintain its health, so all of those " signs " are

actually normal body reactions.

In other words, they are just " signs " that the body is successfully attempting

to restore its own balance. As Florence Nightengale puts it: " There are no

specific diseases; there are [only] specific disease conditions. "

>

> Im now disabled and unable to leave the house due to mcs. Im getting worse and

can only tolerate 8 foods.

+++You can reverse your condition IF you follow this program faithfully and long

enough and clean up or avoid moldy places, unless there's been too much damage

so you've reached the point of no return no matter what you do.

>

> Environment is important, illness does run in groups, symtoms are not always

diet or healing related and may in fact be a huge warning signal. All this i

wish i had known and i wish i had known how horrific mould is. To my mind

candida is not a disease in itself its a symptom of a compromised immune system.

Maybe it was antibiotics that did it, maybe something else, it could just be

your environment. If others around you are getting ill that is another key.

+++Like others wrote, I've never said illness doesn't run in groups. It does.

Mold can be horrific for some people, but not everyone. Did everyone in your

office and home become as sick as you are?

Bee

January 16, 2011

>

> Ok, fair enoigh, also wanted to make the point thoughnthat it sooo important

to pay attention to symptoms and not chalk everything up to diet or retracing. I

see a friend getting sinus infection after sinus infection in a moldy house and

believes its retracing from zeolote. This retracing thing may or may not be

legit i dont know but i think it can be dangerous idea at times. There needs to

be more awareness of the shades of grey sometimes. Im just trying to spare

others of the pain im going through.

+++Hi there. A person's body can only retrace past illnesses, injuries,

diseases, symptoms, etc. IF the person is on a healthy program like this for

long enough so the body becomes capable of reversing the dis-ease processes.

Information about molds was in my Candida Article when you joined, and it was

still there up until last year, and there is now another article on molds:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/toxin14.php