Re: coconut or stevia reaction

[Guest guest]

Hi Marisa,

Im not sure where in your recovery you are from Candida overgrowth, but coconut

milk and coconut meat are too high in sugar to be eating. This may be having a

sudden effect on your immediate health symptoms.

I would stop eating coconut (except coconut oil) immediately and even stop with

the Stevia for some time then maybe slowly introduce it to see if it has any

effect.

Good luck

Rick

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> Hello everyone - Hello Bee

>

>

> This Friday I started drinking homemade coconut milk and eating the coconut

meat. I also started using stevia. Since that day I am having extreme

nausea,dyspepsia,heart burning, stomach cramps and diahrrea and also very dark

green stools. I was wondering if there is any connection between the coconut or

the stevia.I am also terrified since I am not sure if my the colour of my stools

is very dark green or black, and I read that black could indicate internal

bleeding etc etc.

>

> Marisa

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Rick, thank you for your response

There have been several messages this month about coconut milk and meat, and Bee

said it is ok to have them, of course only if they are homemade, so I am not

sure if this is the problem. Coconut milk and meat have less than 7% carbs so it

is ok to have it. see message 105692

Marisa

> >

> > Hello everyone - Hello Bee

> >

> >

> > This Friday I started drinking homemade coconut milk and eating the coconut

meat. I also started using stevia. Since that day I am having extreme

nausea,dyspepsia,heart burning, stomach cramps and diahrrea and also very dark

green stools. I was wondering if there is any connection between the coconut or

the stevia.I am also terrified since I am not sure if my the colour of my stools

is very dark green or black, and I read that black could indicate internal

bleeding etc etc.

> >

> > Marisa

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Marisa,

I looked at the msg, seems interesting. Ive been wondering about this myself

because I LOVE coconut products.

There is a coconut cream that I used to love to eat. Unfortunately it may be too

much sugar content for me at the moment though? Here are the carb details of

the product which is a 270g tin: Total Carbs 8.6g, Sugars 6.5g

Its the best tinned C.C Ive found. The only ingredient is coconut. No

preservatives, gums, artificial colorings or flavors, etc.

Rick

PS. As I said, maybe the reaction you had was because there was too much sugar

in the coconut for 'you' at this stage in 'your' recovery. In a couple of weeks

time it could be different. Just a thought.

>

> Hello Rick, thank you for your response

>

> There have been several messages this month about coconut milk and meat, and

Bee said it is ok to have them, of course only if they are homemade, so I am not

sure if this is the problem. Coconut milk and meat have less than 7% carbs so it

is ok to have it. see message 105692

>

> Marisa

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Marisa,

>

>

> There is a coconut cream that I used to love to eat. Unfortunately it may be

too much sugar content for me at the moment though? Here are the carb details

of the product which is a 270g tin: Total Carbs 8.6g, Sugars 6.5g

-I think that we should ask Bee since I dont know if that amount of sugars is

ok...sorry

>

>

> PS. As I said, maybe the reaction you had was because there was too much sugar

in the coconut for 'you' at this stage in 'your' recovery. In a couple of weeks

time it could be different. Just a thought.

>

- I understand your thinking but I doubt it since I am already 2 1/2 years on

the program ?Maybe coconut milk and meat act like coconut oil and all this was

just a juge healing reaction...????

I don't know.

Marisa

>

[Guest guest]

HI guys,

Actually I'm almost positive that somewhere Bee says that they are both fine

as long as you stay within your ratios.

Cheers,

On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 2:59 AM, smashn999 <dragonboy22@...> wrote:

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>

> Hi Marisa,

>

> Im not sure where in your recovery you are from Candida overgrowth, but

> coconut milk and coconut meat are too high in sugar to be eating. This may

> be having a sudden effect on your immediate health symptoms.

>

> I would stop eating coconut (except coconut oil) immediately and even stop

> with the Stevia for some time then maybe slowly introduce it to see if it

> has any effect.

>

> Good luck

>

> Rick

>

>

>

> >

> > Hello everyone - Hello Bee

> >

> >

> > This Friday I started drinking homemade coconut milk and eating the

> coconut meat. I also started using stevia. Since that day I am having

> extreme nausea,dyspepsia,heart burning, stomach cramps and diahrrea and also

> very dark green stools. I was wondering if there is any connection between

> the coconut or the stevia.I am also terrified since I am not sure if my the

> colour of my stools is very dark green or black, and I read that black could

> indicate internal bleeding etc etc.

> >

> > Marisa

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hello everyone - Hello Bee

>

>

> This Friday I started drinking homemade coconut milk and eating the coconut

meat. I also started using stevia. Since that day I am having extreme

nausea,dyspepsia,heart burning, stomach cramps and diahrrea and also very dark

green stools. I was wondering if there is any connection between the coconut or

the stevia.I am also terrified since I am not sure if my the colour of my stools

is very dark green or black, and I read that black could indicate internal

bleeding etc etc.

>

+++Hi Marisa,

If you are within your total carb ratios or below you should be okay.

However increasing coconut nutrients which are the same as in coconut oil could

increase healing and detoxifying symptoms.

You should get your doctor to check out your stools just to make sure.

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Hello Rick, thank you for your response

>

> There have been several messages this month about coconut milk and meat, and

Bee said it is ok to have them, of course only if they are homemade, so I am not

sure if this is the problem. Coconut milk and meat have less than 7% carbs so it

is ok to have it. see message 105692

>

+++Hi Marisa,

It is not 7 percent carbs, instead it is 5.0 grams of net carbs. Here's my

message:

Like I wrote before the net carb grams should be 7.9g per cup or lower in order

to be allowed on this program.

If you enter 1 cup of coconut meat in fitday.com it has 12.2g total carbs minus

5.2g fibers = 5.0 g net carbs so it is okay.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Okay Bee thank you. I've stopped the coconut and I am ok so I guess it was

that..thank you so much

Marisa

> +++Hi Marisa,

>

> If you are within your total carb ratios or below you should be okay.

>

> However increasing coconut nutrients which are the same as in coconut oil

could increase healing and detoxifying symptoms.

>

> You should get your doctor to check out your stools just to make sure.

>

> Bee

>

[Guest guest]

Bee,

Does it not matter how much natural sugar makes up this 5.0g of net carbs?

For example, I read the label of a 270g tin of Coconut Cream at a health food

store which has (for the total 270g): Total Carbs 8.6g, Sugars 6.5g.

Surely this sugar content makes up way too much of the net carbs?

Thanx

Rick

> >

> > Hello Rick, thank you for your response

> >

> > There have been several messages this month about coconut milk and meat, and

Bee said it is ok to have them, of course only if they are homemade, so I am not

sure if this is the problem. Coconut milk and meat have less than 7% carbs so it

is ok to have it. see message 105692

> >

> +++Hi Marisa,

>

> It is not 7 percent carbs, instead it is 5.0 grams of net carbs. Here's my

message:

>

> Like I wrote before the net carb grams should be 7.9g per cup or lower in

order to be allowed on this program.

>

> If you enter 1 cup of coconut meat in fitday.com it has 12.2g total carbs

minus 5.2g fibers = 5.0 g net carbs so it is okay.

>

> Bee

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Bee,

>

> Does it not matter how much natural sugar makes up this 5.0g of net carbs?

>

> For example, I read the label of a 270g tin of Coconut Cream at a health food

store which has (for the total 270g): Total Carbs 8.6g, Sugars 6.5g.

>

> Surely this sugar content makes up way too much of the net carbs?

+++Hi Rick,

Sugar includes natural sugar, table sugar, honey, etc., however it does not

include substances classified as Sugar alcohols, which are listed separately

under carbs, and it also does not include starch.

Here's how to interpret carbs on food labels:

http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/nutrition/ss/nutritionlabels_5.htm

" Beneath the Total Carbohydrates line in this section there will be two or three

other lines - fiber, sugars, and sometimes sugar alcohols. You may notice that

these figures do not add up to the total. This is because starch is not listed

on food labels. Therefore, any missing carbohydrate can be assumed to be starch.

In processed foods, starch (which is made up of long strands of glucose)

generally raises blood glucose as much or more than sugars. "

Bee