Re: Bee does not recommend any kind of Himalayan Salt

[Guest guest]

I don't want to cause extra work on the wonderful people as these that serve on

Bee's site and Bee herself. But I am confused about the Himalayan salt now. I

never used it before, and I just began putting in the salt shaker for my husband

and son because my mother in law swears by it. Is it OK salt or not? I didn't

get that from the message that Ed posted. I'm sorry if it's right there, but I

really didn't see it. I trust Bee always, and whenever something like this

happens I do not give it a thought, that's life and we are all learning.I also

have had my doubts about mercola, and to hear Bee say she does confirms how I

feel. I think that's what she said!! Anyway, if someone would tell me if this

himalayan salt is bad for my husband and son, I would so appreciate it!! Thank

you!!

I use the grey sea salt and buy from Selina website.

Thanks so much ALL of you!!! '

gail

[Guest guest]

> @@ Hi ,

>

> The article is dated 2002-2003 and the news related to this, was a publicized

scandal/scam which involved Ferreira and Dr. med. Barbara Hendel. Which

suggested the health claims to be fraudulent, due to the Himalayan salt's

questionable sources & quality. This would be what you, , or anyone in the

group aware of the issue would be regarding, due to the mainstream publicity.

>

> However, a short time afterward, if not during, much controversy erupted

giving an unclear picture. Speculatively, this was mainly due to lack of hard

data which demonstrates high fluoride contamination as seen below, not

publicized and/nor demonstrated. Suspicions of general contamination was

suggested but no hard data was publicized.

>

> That part of the information below, I discovered within the associated scam &

brought it to Bee's attention. With collaboration & discussion between us, thus

the decision to discontinue the use of Himalayan Salt was announced.

>

> http://www.poisonfluoride.com/pfpc/html/analysis.html

>

> As I stipulated, the information can be sometimes be hidden in conjunction

with controversy. Thus, making it VERY difficult and time consuming to sort &

decipher the data to determine a feasible decision on the matter.

>

> And when big money is exchanging hands, big business takes all steps to

maintain their cash flow, at any cost! Thus, the constant challenge in front of

us.

>

> Lastly, when I give information I validated it with sources and my answers

remain consistent in that manner without deviation. If I make an error, I'll

address it with a logical explanation/sources and/or apologize for the error.

These are high standards, that professionals rarely ever meet, nowadays.

>

> Therefore, and this isn't directed at you my friend; when Bee, me and

others do the painstaking research & validate it with sources, understand

something. We are obviously passionate about health & care enough about people

to provide our relative experience & sacrifice our time for free. I don't

believe one can say the same for mainstream sources.

>

> We may not be perfect, but at least we provide high, quality service and we

are not misguiding people & profiting from their suffering. Our performance is

our credentials, not our diplomas.

>

> Thanks for your patience in reading.

>

> In Friendship,

> Ed

> group moderator

>

I want to thank Bee and Ed (and others) from the bottom of my heart for ALL the

time they spend researching and answering questions!

God bless you,

Jodie

[Guest guest]

>

> I don't want to cause extra work on the wonderful people as these that serve

on Bee's site and Bee herself. But I am confused about the Himalayan salt now.

I never used it before, and I just began putting in the salt shaker for my

husband and son because my mother in law swears by it. Is it OK salt or not? I

didn't get that from the message that Ed posted. I'm sorry if it's right there,

but I really didn't see it. I trust Bee always, and whenever something like this

happens I do not give it a thought, that's life and we are all learning.I also

have had my doubts about mercola, and to hear Bee say she does confirms how I

feel. I think that's what she said!! Anyway, if someone would tell me if this

himalayan salt is bad for my husband and son, I would so appreciate it!! Thank

you!!

>

> I use the grey sea salt and buy from Selina website.

>

> Thanks so much ALL of you!!! '

> gail

>

>

[Guest guest]

> > >

> > > so should we not use himalayan in baths either?

> > > ...

> >

> > +++Hi ,

> >

> >...

> > Yes you can use it in baths.

> > ...

>

> If the Himalayan Salt is high in flouride, would it not be

> that advisable to bathe in it? I looked for info on whether

> it is absorbed by the skin and the answers were all over the

> place, but did note that hot water would open the pores and

> make it more absorbable.

+++Hi Roy M.,

I don't think your skin would absorb much fluoride, if any!

Bee

[Guest guest]

Ed, thanks. I'm sorry I may sound so stupid , but I can't figure it out. Can you

just give me a " yes or no " on the salt. Bee's words and advise to me are as good

as a bible in my opinion. I simply am not able to pull out of all the words you

have written if it's a good thing to have on my counter for my family.

Thanks Ed, and Bee.

[Guest guest]

I just don't know that I can completely accept that all Himilaying salt is bad

for you. I live in Germany, and every single Natural Store here, every organic

store here, no matter what

town you go to sells and promotes the Himilayan Salt as healthy for you. Even if

you go to the famous Healing Health Spa's over here, like the Krystal Palace

Palm Beach all promote Himilayan Crystal Salt. Now, I'm sure that there is alot

of sales reps out there selling crap and claiming its the real deal, but I

honestly can not say that all Himilayan Salt must be bad.

The German people are honestly the most health conscience people I have ever

come across on the face of the earth. And I have lived all over the place, from

England, Spain, Greece,

The States and now Germany for ten years. The German people absolutely value

their health. You see these people out Nature walking everywhere, and they all

own those cross country walking sticks. Its kind of hard to believe that

everyone of them over here has been fooled. What else I think is funny, and I'm

sure that Bee will like this one, when ever you go to a German restaurant that

sells Germany food, Sauerkraut is always served with the food.

I believe that those that want to continue to use the Himilayan Salt just need

to do some research on where their Salt actually comes from and the quality and

the pureness of the Salt.

Have a great evening,

Carol

From: gengland@...

Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 11:43:49 -0800

Subject: [ ] Re: Bee does not recommend any kind of Himalayan Salt

Ed, thanks. I'm sorry I may sound so stupid , but I can't figure it out. Can you

just give me a " yes or no " on the salt. Bee's words and advise to me are as good

as a bible in my opinion. I simply am not able to pull out of all the words you

have written if it's a good thing to have on my counter for my family.

Thanks Ed, and Bee.

[Guest guest]

>

> Ed, thanks. I'm sorry I may sound so stupid , but I can't figure it out. Can

you just give me a " yes or no " on the salt. Bee's words and advise to me are as

good as a bible in my opinion. I simply am not able to pull out of all the words

you have written if it's a good thing to have on my counter for my family.

> Thanks Ed, and Bee.

>

@@ Hi Gail,

Please include your name at the end of your messages. Thanks in advance.

You do also realize that I stated, Bee and I collaborated, discussed & both

agreed that Himalayan Salt should be discontinued, right?

Therefore if its agreed to be discontinued, it means No, on the Himalayan salt.

What did you not understand?

Best Regards,

Ed

group moderator

[Guest guest]

>

>

> I just don't know that I can completely accept that all Himilaying salt is

bad for you. I live in Germany, and every single Natural Store here, every

organic store here, no matter what

> town you go to sells and promotes the Himilayan Salt as healthy for you. Even

if you go to the famous Healing Health Spa's over here, like the Krystal Palace

Palm Beach all promote Himilayan Crystal Salt. Now, I'm sure that there is alot

of sales reps out there selling crap and claiming its the real deal, but I

honestly can not say that all Himilayan Salt must be bad.

> The German people are honestly the most health conscience people I have ever

come across on the face of the earth. And I have lived all over the place, from

England, Spain, Greece,

> The States and now Germany for ten years. The German people absolutely value

their health. You see these people out Nature walking everywhere, and they all

own those cross country walking sticks. Its kind of hard to believe that

everyone of them over here has been fooled. What else I think is funny, and I'm

sure that Bee will like this one, when ever you go to a German restaurant that

sells Germany food, Sauerkraut is always served with the food.

> I believe that those that want to continue to use the Himilayan Salt just

need to do some research on where their Salt actually comes from and the quality

and the pureness of the Salt.

>

> Have a great evening,

> Carol

>

@@ Hi Carol,

That data link on Himalayan salt which demonstrated high Fluoride contamination

was conducted by a lab in Germany.

http://www.poisonfluoride.com/pfpc/html/analysis.html

Furthermore, with further research I realize the only conclusion in light of

the data & controversies, its nearly virtually impossible to determine a

quality/safe source of Himalayan Salt. Unless, you want to do your own analysis

through a trusted lab. Thus, safest approach was to discontinue its use and

instead use Celtic Sea Salt.

However, the data we discovered/provided and our advice is your choice whether

you decide to utilize/accept it or not. If you have data to dispute what has

been submitted, please by all means, feel free to submit it anytime.

However, in regards to the health conscious German people, they are just as

susceptible to misinformation and manipulation of medical/media mainstream

influence. Lets not fool ourselves. Them valuing their health is not in

question.

Matter of fact they have limits on some of their vitamins, accordingly.

Example, Vitamin C the largest sized tablet of vitamin C in Germany is 250 mg

(Merck)(a huge, hard-to-swallow tablet -- they don't have capsules). Their price

for 30 tablets is 18.89 DM or $12.27 US. Furthermore, in German health food

stores, you simply don't find the shelves filled with vitamin products that you

see in the U.S., Canada, the U.K. or Australia.

Sounds like the German people can and are just as controlled & manipulated, if

not more, as anyone else. We all have access to exercise and computers in the

world.

And how much people use these avenues, fluctuates all over the world, not just

Germany. I see no indication/data, where any group of particular people are

suggested to be superior to anyone else in general, in the world nowadays. Lots

of people walk here in Canada too, where I reside.

I reiterate, irregardless of our advice, Carol, if you or anyone is comfortable

with continuance in using the Himalayan Salt, that's your choice.

Take care.

Best in Health.

Ed

group moderator

[Guest guest]

Ed,

Wow,,,,that was pretty snotty, actually, if you would like to pay attention to

the email sender, the lady that said she didnt understand, you will find that,

that was not me. However, I can still state how I feel on the matter.

Cheers,

Carol

From: imysterios@...

Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 03:54:17 +0000

Subject: [ ] Re: Bee does not recommend any kind of Himalayan Salt

>

> Ed, thanks. I'm sorry I may sound so stupid , but I can't figure it out. Can

you just give me a " yes or no " on the salt. Bee's words and advise to me are as

good as a bible in my opinion. I simply am not able to pull out of all the words

you have written if it's a good thing to have on my counter for my family.

> Thanks Ed, and Bee.

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Ed, thanks. I'm sorry I may sound so stupid , but I can't figure it out. Can

you just give me a " yes or no " on the salt. Bee's words and advise to me are as

good as a bible in my opinion. I simply am not able to pull out of all the words

you have written if it's a good thing to have on my counter for my family.

+++Hi there.

What is your name? The answer is " do not take Himalayan salt of any kind

internally. " When I don't recommend something it means you should not have it.

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

>

> I just don't know that I can completely accept that all Himilaying salt is

bad for you. I live in Germany, and every single Natural Store here, every

organic store here, no matter what

> town you go to sells and promotes the Himilayan Salt as healthy for you. Even

if you go to the famous Healing Health Spa's over here, like the Krystal Palace

Palm Beach all promote Himilayan Crystal Salt. Now, I'm sure that there is alot

of sales reps out there selling crap and claiming its the real deal, but I

honestly can not say that all Himilayan Salt must be bad.

> The German people are honestly the most health conscience people I have ever

come across on the face of the earth. And I have lived all over the place, from

England, Spain, Greece,

> The States and now Germany for ten years. The German people absolutely value

their health. You see these people out Nature walking everywhere, and they all

own those cross country walking sticks. Its kind of hard to believe that

everyone of them over here has been fooled. What else I think is funny, and I'm

sure that Bee will like this one, when ever you go to a German restaurant that

sells Germany food, Sauerkraut is always served with the food.

> I believe that those that want to continue to use the Himilayan Salt just

need to do some research on where their Salt actually comes from and the quality

and the pureness of the Salt.

+++Hi Carol,

You've obviously missed the most important point in my message about Himalayan

Salt, which IS:

I've recently come across this information about Himalaya Salt, which explains

that Himalayan salt is not sea salt<<<<NOTE, and it can't be, and it is not from

the Himalayans<<<<NOTE:

Here's most of the article<<<Carol, read this article carefully before making

any judgements:

http://www.poisonfluoride.com/pfpc/html/himalaya.html

Over the last few years a new scam has emerged in Europe which is rapidly

spreading across the world.

It involves ordinary rock salt<<<<NOTE from the " salt range " in Pakistan being

marketed as luxurious and healing " Himalaya Salt " .

It is also sold as " Himalayan Crystal Salt " , " Hunza-Kristallsalz " or natural

" Kristallsalz " , " VitaSal " , " AromaLife " , etc.

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

>

> Ed,

>

> Wow,,,,that was pretty snotty, actually, if you would like to pay attention

to the email sender, the lady that said she didnt understand, you will find

that, that was not me. However, I can still state how I feel on the matter.

+++Hi Carol,

According to our Group's Rules when you have a complaint about other members,

moderators, etc. you do not air it on the group, which upsets people needlessly.

Here's #9 under " messages not allowed " on the group:

9. Comments on how the group should be run or on how other members should be

posting or behaving. Such comments must be emailed directly to Bee and/or the

moderators and not posted on the group. This is to maintain a high tone with

messages that are positive and helpful.

Everyone needs to think before writing how you feel on any matter, like you do

with family and friends, since it affects many other people. You have a right

to any opinion, but it doesn't promote good human relations to create

controversy, doubts or upsets when you express them.

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Ed, thanks. I'm sorry I may sound so stupid , but I can't figure it out. Can

you just give me a " yes or no " on the salt. Bee's words and advise to me are as

good as a bible in my opinion. I simply am not able to pull out of all the words

you have written if it's a good thing to have on my counter for my family.

> > Thanks Ed, and Bee.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I am actually glad to hear this. I've been hating the taste of my Himalayan

salt. Thank you, Bee.

Dana

> > >

> > > Ed, thanks. I'm sorry I may sound so stupid , but I can't figure it out.

Can you just give me a " yes or no " on the salt. Bee's words and advise to me are

as good as a bible in my opinion. I simply am not able to pull out of all the

words you have written if it's a good thing to have on my counter for my family.

> > > Thanks Ed, and Bee.

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Carol and Ed. Thank you again Ed for your time. I did not pull " no " that out

of your previous comprehend the simple question I had. I " m sorry, it said too

much for me to sort through. But, I understand it's not recommended on Bee's

diet, which I have been on for 3 years now, thanks to Bee's wonderful patience

and help to me. As I stated I use the grey sea salt Bee recommends sold on

Selina website. What I was wondering was if the H salt I bought could be safely

used by my " husband and son " that are not sick like me. I was asking referring

to the article, did we determine that it was not good info but safe for use by

others NOT on the program.

Ed you dno't need to waste your time on me here any further, there are so many

in much more need that this salt issue. I have been a forum moderator for many

years elsewhere, it's a thankless and very busy job. Keep your head, we all are

sick here and foggy. I am covered. ; )

Many thanks to you and all of you for your hard work here, we are so lucky to

have you all.

Sincerely, Gail

>

>

> Ed,

>

> Wow,,,,that was pretty snotty, actually, if you would like to pay attention

to the email sender, the lady that said she didnt understand, you will find

that, that was not me. However, I can still state how I feel on the matter.

>

> Cheers,

> Carol

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Carol and Ed. Thank you again Ed for your time. I did not pull " no " that

out of your previous comprehend the simple question I had. I " m sorry, it said

too much for me to sort through. But, I understand it's not recommended on Bee's

diet, which I have been on for 3 years now, thanks to Bee's wonderful patience

and help to me. As I stated I use the grey sea salt Bee recommends sold on

Selina website. What I was wondering was if the H salt I bought could be safely

used by my " husband and son " that are not sick like me. I was asking referring

to the article, did we determine that it was not good info but safe for use by

others NOT on the program.

+++Hi Gail. Himalayan Salt is not safe for anyone even if they are not sick.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Thank you Bee, and the PINK salt is GONE from the counter. Sorry I wasted my

money now.

Gail

> +++Hi Gail. Himalayan Salt is not safe for anyone even if they are not sick.

>

> Bee

>