Guest guest Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 Thanks for the info ..This morning I tasted and looked over the scoby really good and decided to take up the brew...it is sooo good! It was in it's seventh day so I think this time I did the right thing...I drank about eight ounces and that was early this morning and have not had any side effects...I will keep your post for future reference...Thanks again for the info!! ________________________________ From: <lr_grossman@...> kombucha tea Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 1:48:25 PM Subject: Regarding mold , about your mold situation, my suggestion might be to change the covering of the jar or whatver you keep your KT in, that might hold in some mold spores. Can you move the vessel momentarily to another spot till things calm down a bit? Then I wander if topping off a small mix as an added measure to strengthen just this time the brew, like a vitamin B-12 shot, a bit of added vinegar, either as a few tablespoons or with some acidic starter. Would any of this be of help? Just some thoughts. Hope it eases your mind.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 > > Well, Bee, I would like to understand more thoroughly. You are proposing folks not " kill " what can be very dangerous infections and not take probiotics when it has seemed that at times probiotics have prevented some dangerous medical outcomes (I am all for feeling safe NOT taking them), so someone is responsible outcomes... you or others taking your advice.. and I would hope those that do question every angle from everyone until they are satisfied because it is their life. +++Hi Robin. How can anyone go wrong eating the foods and taking the supplements on my program? That's what Nature intended, and what we would have had if we didn't have the food industry, transportation, etc. > > If anyone has more indepth resources to refer me to I would appreciate it. I have had " lyme " long enough not to buy into pharma speak or antibiotics, but I still have some kinks to work out in my mind that are not gelling for me.. +++My brother also had Lyme's as he was becoming more and more unhealthy, which first started with Crohn's disease (diarrhea & inflammation of the bowels) 20 years before starting on my program. During that time he first had West Nile Virus, then he had Lyme's bacterial infection, and then candida. +++While on my program the first 20 months he retraced them in chronological order, first candida, 2nd Lyme's, then West Nile, and all along he was retracing Crohn's including many skin issues. At the end of 20 months he no longer had Crohn's, viruses, bacteria or candida. +++It stands to reason, since the body first creates viruses, and if that doesn't work viruses are changed into a bacteria, and if that doesn't work bacteria are changed into funguses, like candida and cancer. > > not everyone gets sick because of the terrain is a bit general and vague. Ive read your links several times. I have been exposed to terrain theory before and am still trying to understand it more thoroughly. I have been the kill the lyme and other bugs route and it does not work for me. So I get that. +++That's good you get that. > > I also have a relative who miraculously healed after a NDE and never changed diet of a thing other than her perception of illness and life. So something (s) effects something (s) internally bringing balance back to the body. This person I think would be even better if she worked on her diet. +++I don't know what NDE is. > > If one is in a moldy environment and tests reveal the same molds growing in the body as in the environment.. does diet treat this alone? +++I don't trust how they test for molds growing in the body anyway, so I won't go there. > > What do the herbs do? DO they kill or revert the fungus back to original state? +++Herbs don't kill or revert fungus either. Only the body itself can make any organism it creates revert back. All the best, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 Hi! I think Bee has stated many times that you cannot " kill " Candida, it is our bodies, we just need to restore it to a healthy balance, since we have an " overgrowth " of Candida. Did I get this right Bee? lol Sharona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 Thank you for bearing with me, Bee. I am definitely changing my diet because it makes sense. NDE is a near death experience. She died of a stroke and came back. The death caused an electrical shift or it was a spiritual-healing experience or both. She glowed after this and her perspective completely so I know this is one avenue for healing that involves some sort of shift in the body. She went from bed ridden with extreme forms of dysautonomia, multiple positive tests for viruses, bacteria, etc.. to well. She has some lingering issues though and I wish she would look at her diet. The mold " literate " folks test for mold using DNA-PCR sampling of tissue, body fluids from lungs, nasal cavity-sinuses as well as IgG, IgM antibodies. The DNA is specific to environmental molds that will grow at body temperature and supposedly in one's body. That would not be candida they are talking about, rather molds that are in the environment that can be inhaled in excessive amounts found in a " sick building " home or work place that has growing fungal colonies on building materials (which themselves are toxic) emitting extremely high and unnatural amounts of spores and mycotoxins into the air one breathes. Mycotoxins are obviously poisons and effect the immune system along with other body functions and damage to detox abilities and so on. Im talking about molds that are environmental and do not belong to the natural ecoflora of the human body.. not that I know of. So it seems the molds would be considered infectous poisons. (?) They grow (if they exist and cultures from dead people say they do) and they emit their own toxins. I dont see how they are part of the protid life cycle. Im all ears to understand differently. I understand you dont want to go there.. but I cant see how you cant unless you are saying you are only addressing candida here. These molds are not part of the human ecosystem. They grow in the body or the testing-cultures are false as well as the autopsies. Possibly the body can rid itself of them as well as toxins without " killing " them (since they are supposedly living in the human body).. ?? If " antifungal " herbs don't kill of make the fungus et al revert then what do you use them for? Robin +++I don't trust how they test for molds growing in the body anyway, so I won't go there. > > What do the herbs do? DO they kill or revert the fungus back to original state? +++Herbs don't kill or revert fungus either. Only the body itself can make any organism it creates revert back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 > > Hi! > > I think Bee has stated many times that you cannot " kill " Candida, it is our bodies, we just need to restore it to a healthy balance, since we have an " overgrowth " of Candida. Did I get this right Bee? lol > +++Hi Sharona, Yes, you did get that right! Good for you! Since our bodies create any and all bugs as needed, including candida/fungus, only the body itself can affect them, when it is healthy enough so it doesn't need them anymore. You can't keep " trying to kill them off " when the body is creating them for a very good reason, which is mainly to " maintain its health " in spite of poor nutrition, toxins, etc. All the best, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 > > > Thank you for bearing with me, Bee. I am definitely changing my diet because it makes sense. > > NDE is a near death experience. She died of a stroke and came back. The death caused an electrical shift or it was a spiritual-healing experience or both. She glowed after this and her perspective completely so I know this is one avenue for healing that involves some sort of shift in the body. She went from bed ridden with extreme forms of dysautonomia, multiple positive tests for viruses, bacteria, etc.. to well. She has some lingering issues though and I wish she would look at her diet. +++Hi Robin. Thanks for telling me what NDE is. Please do not use such acronyms on this group. Also I would know what dysautonomia is either without having to look it up. > > The mold " literate " folks test for mold using DNA-PCR sampling of tissue, body fluids from lungs, nasal cavity-sinuses as well as IgG, IgM antibodies. +++DNA theories, fallacies, and inaccuracies: Excerpts from: DNA Theories, by Macomber: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/mn11.php *********** Deeply imbedded fallacies and inaccuracies are a powerful impediment to progress towards the acquisition of advanced knowledge when cognitive dissonance causes the mind to involuntarily reject anything out of line with previous thoughts, or actions. [L. Festinger]. As Albert Einstein put it, " The theory determines what you can see. " And there is a great deal of deeply imbedded fallacy in DNA theory, i.e., impeding us from realizing a more profound insight into the nature of things. So get ready, because you are about to read something you may have never read before! Can you overcome your conditioning? Many people, for example, believe that DNA constitutes a sort of a biological hard drive upon which is recorded the blueprint of life. Yet, it can easily be demonstrated that nothing, could be further from the truth. DNA is beginning to become elevated to an almost divine status, a sorry situation leading to all sorts of fantastic theories and pronouncements, many of which seem to have more of a political agenda than a scientific one. I have therefore put together a historical and scientific perspective, i.e., as opposed to the viewpoint of federal grant-supported materialistic Big Science, which is neither. For it should at all times be kept in mind that the one thing Big Science does better than anything else, is ignore scientific evidence. The idea that DNA is a blueprint for life arises fundamentally from the materialistic concept that life was created essentially by accident way back in the distant past so that all life we see today must be evolved from that past event. This gives rise to the idea that something must have carried the original pattern of uni-cellular life forward, and that this pattern must have been progressively modified into the various multi-cellular organisms. This is a nice little fairy tail demonstrating a simplistic, and linear thinking process. It is not true, regardless of who may proclaim it in our institutions of higher learning, etc. The following little bit of history, I hope, will lend an understanding as to why DNA cannot be the blueprint of life. Antoine Beauchamp (1816-1908) originally discovered that what we call cellular DNA (as well as the rest of a unicellular organism) may arise under certain favorable circumstances from a conglomeration of tiny motile granulations he named microzymes. It is, in fact, the microzymes that are the primary components of all life, not the cell which is in large part comprised of microzymes. It was, by the way, Antoine Béchamp who originally discovered the so-called germ. Not the fraud and imposter Louis Pasteur who in large part gained his ill-disserved reputation by plagiarizing the great master Béchamp's vast catalog of discoveries. ********* +++Second, body fluids from the lungs and nasal cavity are areas where the body stops substances from the air and gets rid of them, including molds, dust, danger, pollen, etc. so how can testing prove the person is infected by them by looking that the very fluids are are formed to get rid of them? +++That is like andra Fleming who discovered penicillin. He totally misinterpreted what actually happened in his lab. " Fleming noticed that one culture [staphylococci bacteria] was contaminated with a fungus, and that the colonies of staphylococci that had immediately surrounded it had been destroyed, whereas other colonies further away were normal. " NOTE: He thought the fungus destroyed the bacteria, however what really happened was that the bacteria changed into fungus so that's why they were no longer present. In other words the bacteria were not killed by the fungus, and instead the bacteria changed into fungus. So that's why most drugs are made from funguses, including antifungal drugs. What kind of sense does that make? >>> If " antifungal " herbs don't kill off make the fungus et al revert then what do you use them for? +++The word antifungal was coined by the medical industry, along with words like antibacterial, antiviral, antiparasitic, probiotic, and also the terms die-off symptoms and Herxheimer reactions. The purpose of fabricating these words was to make us believe that bugs, funguses, etc. can actually be killed off so we will believe that their drugs (poisons) must be taken to save ourselves. It is all about the money and them being our Saviours. ++++The true healers of old, even some doctors before the drug industry made them their patsies, used herbs to assist people in the short-term, but they always advised the person to eat healthy, lessen stress, get more rest, etc. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 I am not talking about candida. lol:-) I am talking about environmental molds and will get to Bee's info later. My father just had a stroke and kids are sick or detoxing. which ever. Robin > > Hi! > > I think Bee has stated many times that you cannot " kill " Candida, it is our bodies, we just need to restore it to a healthy balance, since we have an " overgrowth " of Candida. Did I get this right Bee? lol > > Sharona > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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