Re: Cooked Veggies and protein...

[Guest guest]

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> Twice over the last few days I have talked to people about how cooking veggies

is better for us and the very first argument I'm hit with is how it destroys the

proteins in the vegetables.

>

> I've read Bee's articles but don't really see this issue addressed, but, as I

did a quick google search, it dawned on me that perhaps these people were

expecting to get most of their protein via vegetables! One, I know, is eating a

vegetarian diet (possibly because of his WIFE'S will!).

>

> Perhaps it IS an issue if they are not consuming animal products and getting a

varied diet.

>

> But the fact remains, doesn't it, that our bodies are not geared toward

breaking down the cell walls of raw veggies and thus they are not getting the

nutrients they think they're getting anyway, esp if they are afraid of good fats

added to it.....

>

> Does anyone have a good article (that just doesn't " say " thus and so but has

scientific data to back it up) that would address this issue or thoughts on it?

+++Hi ,

The data that backs up what I write is in two fields of study:

1) Botany, plant science(s), phytology, or plant biology, which is a branch of

biology that involves the scientific study of plant life.

Here's a link to plant cell anatomy and the first line says " The cell is the

basic unit of life. Plant cells (unlike animal cells) are surrounded by a thick,

rigid cell wall. "

http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/plants/cell/

Therefore, all of the nutrients in plants are locked behind their thick, rigid

cell wall, that humans cannot digest.

However, animal cells do not have thick, rigid cell walls, so they are easily

digested by humans, i.e. animals meats, eggs, and fats.

2) Physiology studies the mechanical, physical, and biochemical processes of

living organisms by attempting to understand how all of the structures function

as a whole. The theme of " structure to function " is central to biology.

Physiological studies have traditionally been divided into plant physiology and

animal physiology (includes humans), but some principles of physiology are

universal, no matter what particular organism is being studied. For example,

what is learned about the physiology of yeast cells can also apply to human

cells. The field of animal physiology extends the tools and methods of human

physiology to non-human species. Physiology studies include nervous, immune,

endocrine, respiratory, and circulatory systems, function and interact.

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

--- " Bee " wrote:

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> +++Hi ,

>

> The data that backs up what I write is in two fields of study:

>

> 1) Botany, plant science(s), phytology, or plant biology, which is a branch of

biology that involves the scientific study of plant life.

>

> Here's a link to plant cell anatomy and the first line says " The cell is the

basic unit of life. Plant cells (unlike animal cells) are surrounded by a thick,

rigid cell wall. "

> http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/plants/cell/

>

> Therefore, all of the nutrients in plants are locked behind their thick, rigid

cell wall, that humans cannot digest.

=====>> OK. I get that (above). So no matter what nutrients are IN a " plant " ,

it is locked in place until it is, for human consumption, cooked?

=====>> Now, I'll just have to wait till I'm MUCH smarter to figure out what

you've said below! I'm guessing it all has to do with animal product and how

much easier it is for humans to digest?

>

> However, animal cells do not have thick, rigid cell walls, so they are easily

digested by humans, i.e. animals meats, eggs, and fats.

>

> 2) Physiology studies the mechanical, physical, and biochemical processes of

living organisms by attempting to understand how all of the structures function

as a whole. The theme of " structure to function " is central to biology.

>

> Physiological studies have traditionally been divided into plant physiology

and animal physiology (includes humans), but some principles of physiology are

universal, no matter what particular organism is being studied. For example,

what is learned about the physiology of yeast cells can also apply to human

cells. The field of animal physiology extends the tools and methods of human

physiology to non-human species. Physiology studies include nervous, immune,

endocrine, respiratory, and circulatory systems, function and interact.

>

> All the best, Bee

>

=====>> I'm not quite sure, however, how I can answer people when they say raw

is better or has more nutrients in it... Is the answer that our bodies cannot

break down the cell walls? So when people consume raw veggies, they are really

fooling themselves into thinking they're getting all the nutrients, vitamins and

minerals when they really are not?

Thanks, Bee.

, began 3/09/10

[Guest guest]

=====>> I'm not quite sure, however, how I can answer people when they say raw

is better or has more nutrients in it... Is the answer that our bodies cannot

break down the cell walls? So when people consume raw veggies, they are really

fooling themselves into thinking they're getting all the nutrients, vitamins and

minerals when they really are not?

***, it depends on what type of food people are referring to. As Bee stated

earlier, when it comes to raw vegetables there is no, I repeat no, comparison to

the nutrition you'll get from cooked vegetables. Remember the structure of plant

cell walls in biology class in high school. They ain't soft! They're tough,

rigid and they kick butt when it comes to outsiders. That's why humans have

always cooked them or threw them in a large pot added water and put it all to a

boil.

Eggs, meat & fat are animal-type foods so they have no cell wall, instead a thin

cell membrane. If you're a visual learner like myself check this out.

http://tinyurl.com/69b8pzr

Eat, drink & be happy!

-Luke

[Guest guest]

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> > Therefore, all of the nutrients in plants are locked behind their thick,

rigid cell wall, that humans cannot digest.

>

> =====>> OK. I get that (above). So no matter what nutrients are IN a

" plant " , it is locked in place until it is, for human consumption, cooked?

> =====>> Now, I'll just have to wait till I'm MUCH smarter to figure out what

you've said below! I'm guessing it all has to do with animal product and how

much easier it is for humans to digest?

> =====>> I'm not quite sure, however, how I can answer people when they say raw

is better or has more nutrients in it... Is the answer that our bodies cannot

break down the cell walls? So when people consume raw veggies, they are really

fooling themselves into thinking they're getting all the nutrients, vitamins and

minerals when they really are not?

***Hi ,

You are correct in all of your conclusions above. Why don't you refer people to

my article Raw Versus Cooked Carbs:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/veg3.php

Plants have cell walls that humans cannot digest, and animal products (meats,

eggs and fats) have cells walls that humans easily digest.

Bee