Osteoporosis

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Links taken from http://www.elderwyn.com/medicallinks/o.html

Osteoporosis

Building Osteoprosis National Education Summit (BONES) - education, information, and knowledge sharing about osteoporosis. Held January 7-9, 2000 in Boca Raton, Florida.

Doctor's Guide to the Internet - Osteoporosis - A guide to osteoporosis-related information and resources likely to be of interest to medical professionals and/or patients.

European Foundation for Osteoporosis - EFFO's mission is to motivate people to take action to prevent, diagnose and treat it at all levels.

Foundation for Osteoporosis Research and Education

International Osteoporosis Foundation (IOF) - offers information, advocates prevention, early detection, and treatment, and promotes policy change.

Is MBD a Sufficient Predictor of Fragility - text and graphics from RSNA 1997 poster presentation. Discusses the sufficiency of mean bone density as a predictor of bone fragility in osteoporosis.

Missouri Osteoporosis Foundation - serves to educate and inform women about the issues surrounding osteoporosis.

MFP Fluorides for Osteoporosis

National Osteoporosis Foundation - info on the causes, prevention, detection and treatment of osteoporosis.

National Osteoporosis Society - NOS - fighting fragile bones.

Ostéoporose Québec / Osteoporosis Quebec - works to prevention and treat osteoporosis.

Osteoporosis & Related Bone Diseases National Resource Center - To provide health profesionals, patients & the public with current information on metobolic bone diseases such as osteoporosis, Paget's Disease, osteogensis imperfecta, and hyperparathyroidism.

Osteoporosis and Bone Physiology - educational site about osteoporosis and other metabolic bone diseases from an academic clinical physician-researcher.

Osteoporosis Center, The - a site developed for the education and diagnosis of osteoporosis.

Osteoporosis in Men

Osteoporosis Knowledge Questionnaire - quiz for adults age 55 and older who want to participate in osteoporosis research and education currently being conducted at Texas Woman's University.

Osteoporosis Online - presented by the Osteoporosis Society of Canada. Provides up-to-date information on the risks, prevention, diagnosis, and treatment of the disease.

[Guest guest]

Does anyone have experience with bone mass increases plus bone

strength improvement and with what products or regimen? Thanks!

Eunice

Dear Eunice,

I am not an authority on bone mass, but I have taken a product for quite

some time, and it has been touted as one of the

best supplements on the market. It's called Bone Builder and it's made by

Ethical Nutrients. The research on it shows

that it actually can help with osteoporosis.... You may give that a try.

Sincerely,

KAT

[Guest guest]

Please see my website for an osteoporosis nutrition program. This is an

effective, time proven program.

Sorry, if this is considered spamming. I do not think it is. Only helping.

Many Blessings,

Sande

www.choosecra.com

Osteoporosis

> Hi, Oxyplusers,

>

> I have been reading your messages for quite some time now with great

> interest! I'm using Homozon as a result. Now I need some of

> your-anyone-expertise. I fractured a vertebrae about a month ago--an

> accident--but the Dr. said xrays show considerable bone loss. Got a

> DXA Scan--don't know the results yet but I'm sure I am losing bone

> mass. Mother (86) has Osteoporosis really bad. She's on Fosamax.

> I'm 58 and just into menopause-1 yr. I have aunts on both sides of my

> family who have died with breast cancer so HRT is not an option. Also

> I read of side effects, etc. of the common remedies used by drs. for

> building bone mass or at least halting the loss of bone--Alendronate,

> Calcitonin, Evista, HRT, Flouridation. I have taken the recommended

> amount of calcium supplements for at least 20 years, Magnesium for the

> last 4 or 5 years, but that appears not to have helped.

>

> Does anyone know or had experience with Progesterone creams? Has

> anyone had results from OrganiCal from Natural Options Corp. It is a

> sea algae with added Vit. D3. Their literature claims bone mass

> increases of up to 7% a year. (Their phone no. is: 1-800-516-9796).

> Does anyone have experience with bone mass increases plus bone

> strength improvement and with what products or regimen? Thanks!

>

> Eunice

>

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Dear Eunice,

HRT is a crock. Pregnant mare urine is not compatible with humans.

Fluoridation CAUSES osteoporosis.

Your supplements have not worked because of the form you took them in, plus

missing vitamins needed to absorb them.

You need calcium/magnesium/Vitamin D/zinc.

The best formula I know of is a liquid product made by Flora.

It will halt and reverse osteoporosis promptly. Get your mom on it too.

It is in most health food stores.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh

Osteoporosis

> Hi, Oxyplusers,

>

> I have been reading your messages for quite some time now with great

> interest! I'm using Homozon as a result. Now I need some of

> your-anyone-expertise. I fractured a vertebrae about a month ago--an

> accident--but the Dr. said xrays show considerable bone loss. Got a

> DXA Scan--don't know the results yet but I'm sure I am losing bone

> mass. Mother (86) has Osteoporosis really bad. She's on Fosamax.

> I'm 58 and just into menopause-1 yr. I have aunts on both sides of my

> family who have died with breast cancer so HRT is not an option. Also

> I read of side effects, etc. of the common remedies used by drs. for

> building bone mass or at least halting the loss of bone--Alendronate,

> Calcitonin, Evista, HRT, Flouridation. I have taken the recommended

> amount of calcium supplements for at least 20 years, Magnesium for the

> last 4 or 5 years, but that appears not to have helped.

>

> Does anyone know or had experience with Progesterone creams? Has

> anyone had results from OrganiCal from Natural Options Corp. It is a

> sea algae with added Vit. D3. Their literature claims bone mass

> increases of up to 7% a year. (Their phone no. is: 1-800-516-9796).

> Does anyone have experience with bone mass increases plus bone

> strength improvement and with what products or regimen? Thanks!

>

> Eunice

>

>

>

> OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and

other alternative self-help subjects.

>

> THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

>

> This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here

are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing

information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your

own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to

take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to

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[Guest guest]

Thanks, Saul

I'll try that too. I am on a tablet with the right combination,

including vit. C (I think) but it is so large I gag every time I take

it. Needless to say, I skip it a lot!

Serita

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Dr Siff or other list members,

I realize that I need to do some reading on my own, but wondered if you knew of

the incidence of osteoporosis in other countries. Is osteoporosis a consequence

of aging/biochemistry, nutrition, activity, all of the above? Is it a

consequence, at least in part, of our increasingly sedentary lifestyle?

In no way do I mean to minimize the biochemical/hormonal changes associated with

menopause, but I am curious as to the incidence in countries that have " poorer "

nutritional opportunities and more physically demanding lifestyles. What of

countries/regions whose diet is low in calcium? Is there an increased incidence

of osteoporosis there?

Thanks,

Bob Helfst

Muncie, IN

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From: Mcsiff@... [Mcsiff@...]

For anyone who needs information on osteoporosis, here is a huge collection

of on-line references for you:

<http://www.nlm.nih.gov/pubs/cbm/osteoporosis.html>

This website begins thus:

<Osteoporosis is a major threat for millions of Americans. In the U.S. today,

10 million individuals already have osteoporosis, and 18 million more have

low bone mass, placing them at increased risk for this disease. Osteoporosis

is characterized by low bone mass and structural deterioration of bone

tissue, leading to bone fragility and an increased susceptibility to

fractures-especially of the hip, spine, and wrist. It is the most prevalent

of the bone diseases that affect Americans, and women are four times more

likely to develop osteoporosis than men..

Osteoporosis, once acknowledged as a natural part of aging, does not need to

be a consequence of aging any longer. It is largely a preventable disease due

to the remarkable progress that has been made in the scientific understanding

of its causes, diagnosis, and treatment. >

[Guest guest]

Hi Violetta, I would read up on strontium. Great for helping severe weak bone problems. Progesterone is also implicated. Apex Energetics has a sublingual form - forget the creams. Also, check www.mercola.com for his write up on osteo. He recommends vitamin k and sells several months supply for not much money. I would also have her metabolic typing done. Her body's pH has to always be maintained otherwise it is stolen in the form of calcium from her bones. www.bloodph.com They can provide you with a practitioner in your area. Wish her and you the best. Tough to have a sick mom!.

Savinelli, MA, Naturopath

[Guest guest]

There is believed to be a connection between scoliosis itself and lower bone

density. The following link may be of help:

http://www.ctds.info/scoliosis_research.html

Given your Harrington rod surgery and back pain, I hope you've also been

evaluated (by a scoliosis specialist) for HARMS/flatback and/or pseudarthrosis.

Sharon in Southern New Hampshire

Congenital scoliosis w/ spina bifida and other vertebral anomalies

1971 Harrington rod fusion, T5-L4, flatback, L5-S1 degeneration, etc.

osteoporosis

Can anyone help me? I had harrington rods inserted for double

compensated scoliosis at age 16. Back pain started to become serious

in my forties and now at 52 I am diagnosed with osteoporosis. My back

pain is acute. I am wondering how common this is and whether any

study has ever been done on the effect of osteoporosis on women with

a history of this type of surgery?

[Guest guest]

As far as I know, there is no link between idiopathic scoliosis and

osteoporosis. There are, however, some neuromuscular syndromes where

both scoliosis and osteoporosis are symptoms. Also, people with

osteoporosis often develop scoliosis because of the degeneration of

the spine.

--

[Guest guest]

Dear Group,

During my last revision, at age43, my bone quality wasn't what it should be, and

the surgeon couldn't put screws in all the places he would have liked to. So now

I am dealing with osteoporosis, getting monthly Aredia I.V. treatments.

Basically they are treating me like a bone cancer patient. I wonder if anyone

else is doing this treatment, and if they have had success with it. I had a

hard time in the beginning getting sick, but the docs worked that out with anti

nausea drugs and more I.V. fluids. Thanks for your input!

Centennial,Co

osteoporosis

Can anyone help me? I had harrington rods inserted for double

compensated scoliosis at age 16. Back pain started to become serious

in my forties and now at 52 I am diagnosed with osteoporosis. My back

pain is acute. I am wondering how common this is and whether any

study has ever been done on the effect of osteoporosis on women with

a history of this type of surgery?

[Guest guest]

,

For those of us facing surgery, I wonder if you know if there is anyway your

bone quality can be determined before surgery other than a bone scan?

I pray things will improve for you in the future.

Thanks,

osteoporosis

Can anyone help me? I had harrington rods inserted for double

compensated scoliosis at age 16. Back pain started to become serious

in my forties and now at 52 I am diagnosed with osteoporosis. My back

pain is acute. I am wondering how common this is and whether any

study has ever been done on the effect of osteoporosis on women with

a history of this type of surgery?

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

I did have a bone scan prior to my first revision with Dr. Kumar, but during the

three years between first and third revisions I went into perimenopause, and

thats when you loose the greatest amount of bone. That is why it's imporant to

hopefully get revisions done before menopause and your bone quality goes down

hill. I don't know if there is another test other than a bone scan. I know that

Dr. Kumar has been unable to do surgery on patients who's bone quality was found

to be poor. This treatment I am doing drives the calcium I take into the bone,

and I'll find out what good it's done in April when I have my next bone scan.

The treatments are a pain, 5 to 6 hours hooked up to an I..V. once a month, I

hope it's been worth the time. I get treated at a Cancer Center, and after

seeing what those people go through, I realize that scoliosis- flatback at

least isn't fatal, and i have a lot to be thankful for. I thankyou for your

prayers, and keep a good thought for me in April with my bone scan. I'd like to

keep all those rods, screws and bolts in place!

osteoporosis

Can anyone help me? I had harrington rods inserted for double

compensated scoliosis at age 16. Back pain started to become serious

in my forties and now at 52 I am diagnosed with osteoporosis. My back

pain is acute. I am wondering how common this is and whether any

study has ever been done on the effect of osteoporosis on women with

a history of this type of surgery?

[Guest guest]

Hi Beck,

Dave Berg, at Hemex, suggested that I take " Strontium support " ,

which is strontium citrate. I don't have osteoporosis, but have

shown some signs of bone loss from either inactivity, or heparin

therapy. My MD suspects it's inactivity, and she also has advised

me to take strontium citrate.

The research has been done on a different compound, strontium

renalate, which is apparently not available here in the States. If

you do a search on Medline for " strontium renalate " you will find 26

results. Here is one

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uids=12730801 & dopt=Abstract

" Altogether, these pharmacologic results suggest that SR optimizes

bone metabolism by decreasing bone resorption and promoting bone

formation, which may be of potential value in the treatment of

osteoporosis. "

I wish I knew more about the effective difference between these two

compounds, maybe someone here can help with that. But, it could be

something for you to look into.

Laurie

[Guest guest]

Sorry, I mispelled that. On Medline, do a search for

" Strontium Ranelate " to see the research that's been done.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/PubMed/

Laurie

[Guest guest]

Hi Beck,

If you're open to something non-Rx, have you tried natural

progesterone cream? It would solve your doctor problem (b/c you can

buy it in any health food store) and your liver problem (b/c you

apply it topically so that it goes directly into the blood stream

without first being metabolised by your liver). It would also

balance the estrogen you take (estrogen dominance is supposedly one

contributor to osteoporosis).

You can read all about this in any book by Dr. R. Lee (I'd

probably opt for the menopause book over the other ones). My books

are in storage but I recall that his arguments were well researched

and argued. They also include a list of the " best " creams on the

market. I had the privilege of hearing Dr. Lee speak in Dallas a

few years ago. While the newer research that he cited was

impressive, I was even more amazed by the number of women who

attended the talk to thank him personally for the reversals in

health conditions -- including osteoporosis -- that they enjoyed as

a result of his books and using progesterone cream.

Hope that's of help to you. Happy Holidays!

Trish

--- Beck Spelce <hsbeck@a...> wrote:

> So far I have had no luck getting drugs to rebuild my spine, there

is only

> one endo here in Austin who uses the drug I need, Forteo, (b/c is

not

> processed by liver and I have HepC). I do take 300mg Vit D, along

with

> Estrogen, calcium and did manage to have only a small bone loss

this year.

> I am discouraged thinking I must find help outside U.S. but not

knowing

> where to start.

> Beck

[Guest guest]

For you herbal officinados (sp?) what would you recommend to a woman, age

65, recent bone density scan revealed " mild " osteoporosis? MD of course

prescribing medication that " tears up my stomach " . I am recommending

calcium, magnesium, vit D, ipriflavone, lactobacillus sporogenes and

methylcobalamin. Any recommendations? BTW Medicare is planning on

increasing the quarterly bonus paid to you folks working in health

physician shortage areas (HPSA) to 10% in Jan. 2005. Watch for a new

identifier code. The CMS website has more info on just who may be

eligible. Also folks, Medicare is giving us a raise in 2005 of a

whopping 1.5%. Hey, at least we aren't backing up...yet...One more

suggestion concerning Medicare. If you ever contact the Noridian call

center with a claim question request a written response. They must

provide if requested. This may help cover your posterior if a call

center rep happens to give you erroneous information (as impossible as

that may seem). Regards...

J. Holzapfel, D.C.

Albany, OR.

kjholzdc@...

http://docman.chiroweb.com

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

You've got a good formula. The only thing I could suggest is to add the

liquid minerals. When you need one of a group, you really need the whole

group in order for the one to work adequately.

If she has stomach problems that are ignited by the pharmaceutical, check

into her need for HCl. Not necessarily saying she needs to add the

pharmaceutical but you know how a low-level gastritis like that can get in

the way of metabolic health. The HCl will aid her digestion and her blood

production

Another tip is to teach her 'heel drops'. Dr. Christene Snow, Director of

the Bone Lab oh OHSU found that denisty can be measurable increased within

about 3 months using this technique: Standing with feet flat on the floor,

lift heels about 2 - 3 inches and drop back down on them with enough force

to 'jar' the body...not enough to smack the body, just enough to lightly jar

it. That will increase the stress onto the structure, activating Wolfe's

Law.

Good luck to her! Sunny ;'-)

Sunny Kierstyn, RN DC

Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon

59 Santa Clara St.,

Eugene, Oregon, 97404

541-689-0935

>From: KEVIN J HOLZAPFEL DC <kjholzdc@...>

>

>Subject: RE: Osteoporosis

>Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 11:40:13 -0700

>

>

>For you herbal officinados (sp?) what would you recommend to a woman, age

>65, recent bone density scan revealed " mild " osteoporosis? MD of course

>prescribing medication that " tears up my stomach " . I am recommending

>calcium, magnesium, vit D, ipriflavone, lactobacillus sporogenes and

>methylcobalamin. Any recommendations? BTW Medicare is planning on

>increasing the quarterly bonus paid to you folks working in health

>physician shortage areas (HPSA) to 10% in Jan. 2005. Watch for a new

>identifier code. The CMS website has more info on just who may be

>eligible. Also folks, Medicare is giving us a raise in 2005 of a

>whopping 1.5%. Hey, at least we aren't backing up...yet...One more

>suggestion concerning Medicare. If you ever contact the Noridian call

>center with a claim question request a written response. They must

>provide if requested. This may help cover your posterior if a call

>center rep happens to give you erroneous information (as impossible as

>that may seem). Regards...

>

> J. Holzapfel, D.C.

>Albany, OR.

>kjholzdc@...

>http://docman.chiroweb.com

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Walking and sunlight.

Terry Petty, D.C.

RE: Osteoporosis

For you herbal officinados (sp?) what would you recommend to a woman,

age

65, recent bone density scan revealed " mild " osteoporosis? MD of course

prescribing medication that " tears up my stomach " . I am recommending

calcium, magnesium, vit D, ipriflavone, lactobacillus sporogenes and

methylcobalamin. Any recommendations? BTW Medicare is planning on

increasing the quarterly bonus paid to you folks working in health

physician shortage areas (HPSA) to 10% in Jan. 2005. Watch for a new

identifier code. The CMS website has more info on just who may be

eligible. Also folks, Medicare is giving us a raise in 2005 of a

whopping 1.5%. Hey, at least we aren't backing up...yet...One more

suggestion concerning Medicare. If you ever contact the Noridian call

center with a claim question request a written response. They must

provide if requested. This may help cover your posterior if a call

center rep happens to give you erroneous information (as impossible as

that may seem). Regards...

J. Holzapfel, D.C.

Albany, OR.

kjholzdc@...

http://docman.chiroweb.com

[Guest guest]

Vitamin C. Bone is primarily made of type 1 collagen. Collagen is synthesized

from hydroxyproline. The chemical driving the production of hydroxyproline is

vitamin C. I am not sure why calcium gets all the attention, since osteoporosis

is the loss of bone matrix - not the loss of calcium. The loss of calcium from

bone is called either osteomalacia or rickets - which is caused by inadequate

dietary calcium or lack of vitamin D. Osteomalacia (loss of calcium) results in

bones that bend - bowed legs. But osteoporosis is the loss of bone matrix,

and results in brittle bones - like chalk - chalk is made up of pure calcium and

minerals and snaps in two very easily. Matrix (collagen) is proteinaceous and

flexible, resisting breaking,

Anglen

[Guest guest]

RE: RE: Osteoporosis

estroven ? regular bone density studies and jumping rope. needs the harder impact to stimulate bone density. sharron fuchs dc

-----Original Message-----From: Petty [mailto:jhp@...]Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 5:02 PM'KEVIN J HOLZAPFEL DC'; Subject: RE: RE: OsteoporosisWalking and sunlight.Terry Petty, D.C.-----Original Message-----From: KEVIN J HOLZAPFEL DC [mailto:kjholzdc@...] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 11:40 AM Subject: RE: OsteoporosisFor you herbal officinados (sp?) what would you recommend to a woman,age65, recent bone density scan revealed "mild" osteoporosis? MD of courseprescribing medication that "tears up my stomach". I am recommendingcalcium, magnesium, vit D, ipriflavone, lactobacillus sporogenes andmethylcobalamin. Any recommendations? BTW Medicare is planning onincreasing the quarterly bonus paid to you folks working in healthphysician shortage areas (HPSA) to 10% in Jan. 2005. Watch for a newidentifier code. The CMS website has more info on just who may beeligible. Also folks, Medicare is giving us a raise in 2005 of awhopping 1.5%. Hey, at least we aren't backing up...yet...One moresuggestion concerning Medicare. If you ever contact the Noridian callcenter with a claim question request a written response. They mustprovide if requested. This may help cover your posterior if a callcenter rep happens to give you erroneous information (as impossible asthat may seem). Regards... J. Holzapfel, D.C.Albany, OR. kjholzdc@...http://docman.chiroweb.comOregonDCs rules:1. Keep correspondence professional; the purpose of the listserve is to foster communication and collegiality. No personal attacks on listserve members will be tolerated.2. Always sign your e-mails with your first and last name.3. The listserve is not secure; your e-mail could end up anywhere. However, it is against the rules of the listserve to copy, print, forward, or otherwise distribute correspondence written by another member without his or her consent, unless all personal identifiers have been removed.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Yes, I have had success with Osteoporosis. By that I mean clients who have

had before and after bone density tests which have shown improvement.

Combined QXCI, nutrition and exercise (especially resistance training). On

the QXCI work with any panel with bone on it (sarcodes, timed treatments,

etc.) Type osteoporosis in search box on the test page and use Individual

Reaction. Work with minerals especially calcium, magnesium, manganese and

boron. Work with Vitamin K on Nutritional panel. My clients take a

supplement called Osteo B Plus which includes the 5 bone builders named

above. This product is available from Biotics. It is expensive, but not as

expensive as Fosamax (in more than one way).

Phil

OSTEOPOROSIS

If anyone has had success with treating OSTEOPOROSIS, I would

appreciate knowing your protocol or anything that you learned.

.............................................

[Guest guest]

Don't forget Vitamin D3 which many people are makedly deficient in this most important Vitamin. With out this Vitamin you will not build up bone regardless of how much of the neeeded minerals you need.

Castiglia, MD

[Guest guest]

In winter, it's likely that kidneys are involved. Water nourishes the

bones, and weak water, means weak bones.

Moe

At 07:11 PM 1/31/2005, you wrote:

>Hi,

>Yes, I have had success with Osteoporosis.

>Moe Webster offers cutting edge energetic coaching services, providing

>analysis of identifying hidden areas of deficiency and toxicity within

>healing systems. An energetic coach is able to identify missing energy

>and toxicities within body systems. Moe specializes in using products of

>the highest vibration available, while addressing root imbalances

>resulting from ancestral genetic miasms.

[Guest guest]

A good brand of coral calcium is really important as well as a heavy

metal detoxer like a predigested chlorella (Premier Reserach labs

800-325 7734). A lot of bone problems are caused by mercury that

downloads into the joints. They also have a good clay -- Medi Body

Packs for detoxing the downloads on soles and palms -- works really

well. Don't forget walking to build those osteoblasts. is

Rotella, M.Ac., Arnold, Md.

> Don't forget Vitamin D3 which many people are makedly deficient in

this most

> important Vitamin. With out this Vitamin you will not build up bone

> regardless of how much of the neeeded minerals you need.

>

> Castiglia, MD

[Guest guest]

jadespring2003 wrote:

A good brand of coral calcium is really important as well as a heavy

metal detoxer like a predigested chlorella (Premier Reserach labs

800-325 7734). A lot of bone problems are caused by mercury that

downloads into the joints. They also have a good clay -- Medi Body

Packs for detoxing the downloads on soles and palms -- works really

well. Don't forget walking to build those osteoblasts. is

Rotella, M.Ac., Arnold, Md.

Don't forget Vitamin D3 which many people are makedly deficient in

this most

important Vitamin. With out this Vitamin you will not build up bone regardless of how much of the neeeded minerals you need.

Castiglia, MD