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Meg,

I looked at some of your pictures. Can an MRI pick up synovitis? and is it a

fluild in the knee?

I assume your surgery will address that issue.

Happy New Year to you and all

Jen

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>

> Hello everyone,

>

> I am very new to this board but I need some information. I was

> injured in November 2006, where I landed directly on my left knee.

> It caused a huge hematoma. I was diagnosed with prepatellar bursitis

> as a result. I went threw a month of PT, 2 additional MRI, all same

> diagnosis. From March until about September I just lived with the

> discomfot and pain. I have a permanent " bruise " as well as

> occassional swelling and intermittent pain. I had another MRI done

> last week after doing another round of PT. The doctor initially

> recommended a bursectomy but said that surgery is a hard one to heal

> from, so we opted out of that. After the MRI results came back I was

> diagnosed with Chondromalacia grade 3 and Medial plica syndrome.

> Nothing mentioned of the prepatellar bursitis. My doctor has

> recommended surgery to " clean " it all up and this will eleviate the

> pain and swelling. Ok so now my question. Is all that connected to

> the accident? My doctor says it may have been there before and the

> injury has made it symptomatic. But wouldn't that have shown up on

> the other 2 MRI's previous to this last one? THe reason I am asking

> is that I am in litigation from this injury and I have to give a

> deposition this week as well as the defendants doctor's exam.

>

> I know that I did not have this pain prior to this injury. It has to

> be relevant. Thanks for anyone help that replies.

>

>

>

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I honestly don't know if it will or not. My OS didn't even do an MRI

because he said it wouldn't give him the information he needed ... he needed

to do a scope and see inside the knee himself. And I still don't have a

clear picture in my head of what the synovium is. I was thinking of it as

just the fluid in the knee, but I've read about synovectomies and damage to

the synovium membrane, so I guess I have been thinking of it wrong. I

haven't pulled down my A & P book to get a good idea of what it is.

Meg.

On Jan 1, 2008 1:59 PM, Jen Freeman <fjen37@...> wrote:

> Meg,

> I looked at some of your pictures. Can an MRI pick up synovitis? and is it

> a fluild in the knee?

> I assume your surgery will address that issue.

> Happy New Year to you and all

>

> Jen

>

>

> Knee Injury

> >

> > Hello everyone,

> >

> > I am very new to this board but I need some information. I was

> > injured in November 2006, where I landed directly on my left knee.

> > It caused a huge hematoma. I was diagnosed with prepatellar bursitis

> > as a result. I went threw a month of PT, 2 additional MRI, all same

> > diagnosis. From March until about September I just lived with the

> > discomfot and pain. I have a permanent " bruise " as well as

> > occassional swelling and intermittent pain. I had another MRI done

> > last week after doing another round of PT. The doctor initially

> > recommended a bursectomy but said that surgery is a hard one to heal

> > from, so we opted out of that. After the MRI results came back I was

> > diagnosed with Chondromalacia grade 3 and Medial plica syndrome.

> > Nothing mentioned of the prepatellar bursitis. My doctor has

> > recommended surgery to " clean " it all up and this will eleviate the

> > pain and swelling. Ok so now my question. Is all that connected to

> > the accident? My doctor says it may have been there before and the

> > injury has made it symptomatic. But wouldn't that have shown up on

> > the other 2 MRI's previous to this last one? THe reason I am asking

> > is that I am in litigation from this injury and I have to give a

> > deposition this week as well as the defendants doctor's exam.

> >

> > I know that I did not have this pain prior to this injury. It has to

> > be relevant. Thanks for anyone help that replies.

> >

> >

> >

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I " m thinking its inflammation of the tissues that are around the Knee. Hmm not

sure, maybe someone else can chime in on this.

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> >

> > Hello everyone,

> >

> > I am very new to this board but I need some information. I was

> > injured in November 2006, where I landed directly on my left knee.

> > It caused a huge hematoma. I was diagnosed with prepatellar bursitis

> > as a result. I went threw a month of PT, 2 additional MRI, all same

> > diagnosis. From March until about September I just lived with the

> > discomfot and pain. I have a permanent " bruise " as well as

> > occassional swelling and intermittent pain. I had another MRI done

> > last week after doing another round of PT. The doctor initially

> > recommended a bursectomy but said that surgery is a hard one to heal

> > from, so we opted out of that. After the MRI results came back I was

> > diagnosed with Chondromalacia grade 3 and Medial plica syndrome.

> > Nothing mentioned of the prepatellar bursitis. My doctor has

> > recommended surgery to " clean " it all up and this will eleviate the

> > pain and swelling. Ok so now my question. Is all that connected to

> > the accident? My doctor says it may have been there before and the

> > injury has made it symptomatic. But wouldn't that have shown up on

> > the other 2 MRI's previous to this last one? THe reason I am asking

> > is that I am in litigation from this injury and I have to give a

> > deposition this week as well as the defendants doctor's exam.

> >

> > I know that I did not have this pain prior to this injury. It has to

> > be relevant. Thanks for anyone help that replies.

> >

> >

> >

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The socks I use don't have a patella hole. I wore them 24 hours a day for the

first few days. After that, I just wore them during waking hours. I have been

wearing some type of compression for about 3 years straight. TEDS that you get

after surgery also work well for me. If you live near a large medical supply

house, your first stop might be there and try several different brands and get

sized.

Mike

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Hello everyone,

I am very new to this board but I need some information. I was

injured in November 2006, where I landed directly on my left knee.

It caused a huge hematoma. I was diagnosed with prepatellar bursitis

as a result. I went threw a month of PT, 2 additional MRI, all same

diagnosis. From March until about September I just lived with the

discomfot and pain. I have a permanent " bruise " as well as

occassional swelling and intermittent pain. I had another MRI done

last week after doing another round of PT. The doctor initially

recommended a bursectomy but said that surgery is a hard one to heal

from, so we opted out of that. After the MRI results came back I was

diagnosed with Chondromalacia grade 3 and Medial plica syndrome.

Nothing mentioned of the prepatellar bursitis. My doctor has

recommended surgery to " clean " it all up and this will eleviate the

pain and swelling. Ok so now my question. Is all that connected to

the accident? My doctor says it may have been there before and the

injury has made it symptomatic. But wouldn't that have shown up on

the other 2 MRI's previous to this last one? THe reason I am asking

is that I am in litigation from this injury and I have to give a

deposition this week as well as the defendants doctor's exam.

I know that I did not have this pain prior to this injury. It has to

be relevant. Thanks for anyone help that replies.

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Hi Mike,

I will need to find them on the web. No medical supply place near that I know

of.

Jen

Knee Injury

Hello everyone,

I am very new to this board but I need some information. I was

injured in November 2006, where I landed directly on my left knee.

It caused a huge hematoma. I was diagnosed with prepatellar bursitis

as a result. I went threw a month of PT, 2 additional MRI, all same

diagnosis. From March until about September I just lived with the

discomfot and pain. I have a permanent " bruise " as well as

occassional swelling and intermittent pain. I had another MRI done

last week after doing another round of PT. The doctor initially

recommended a bursectomy but said that surgery is a hard one to heal

from, so we opted out of that. After the MRI results came back I was

diagnosed with Chondromalacia grade 3 and Medial plica syndrome.

Nothing mentioned of the prepatellar bursitis. My doctor has

recommended surgery to " clean " it all up and this will eleviate the

pain and swelling. Ok so now my question. Is all that connected to

the accident? My doctor says it may have been there before and the

injury has made it symptomatic. But wouldn't that have shown up on

the other 2 MRI's previous to this last one? THe reason I am asking

is that I am in litigation from this injury and I have to give a

deposition this week as well as the defendants doctor's exam.

I know that I did not have this pain prior to this injury. It has to

be relevant. Thanks for anyone help that replies.

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The synovium is a membrane that encloses the knee joint and produces and

contains the hyaluronic acid that lubricates the joint.

Synovitis is inflammation of the synovium. My local doc told me I have it &

there's nothing you can do about it. You can't cut out part of it because the

whole synovium is usually affected. You can destroy the synovium (I've read in

med articles that the best way to do this is by radiation <shudder>, but they

can also do it by hand). My doc said that the membrane that grows back to

replace the synovium isn't " as good " as the original. I forgot to ask him what

that meant.

However, I've subsequently seen a doc in Seattle & he says he doesn't think it's

synovitis but more meniscal tears. Won't know till he goes in, I guess. What

doesn't make sense to me about his diagnosis is that I just had arthroscopic

surgery in May to " fix " tears in my meniscus and came out of the operation with

more pain than when I went in. And this pain didn't even start until I had an

operation a year before that to " fix " a meniscal tear. So the synovitis

diagnosis makes more sense to me (although I'd rather have meniscal tears,

because it seems that you can never fix chronic synovitis, but meniscal tears

can be removed till you don't have any meniscus left & then you can get a new

knee). I read that they keep the synovium when they do a knee replacement and I

can imagine my pain getting a lot worse if I did that.

Good luck. I hope you can find relief.

Ann

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> >

> > Hello everyone,

> >

> > I am very new to this board but I need some information. I was

> > injured in November 2006, where I landed directly on my left knee.

> > It caused a huge hematoma. I was diagnosed with prepatellar bursitis

> > as a result. I went threw a month of PT, 2 additional MRI, all same

> > diagnosis. From March until about September I just lived with the

> > discomfot and pain. I have a permanent " bruise " as well as

> > occassional swelling and intermittent pain. I had another MRI done

> > last week after doing another round of PT. The doctor initially

> > recommended a bursectomy but said that surgery is a hard one to heal

> > from, so we opted out of that. After the MRI results came back I was

> > diagnosed with Chondromalacia grade 3 and Medial plica syndrome.

> > Nothing mentioned of the prepatellar bursitis. My doctor has

> > recommended surgery to " clean " it all up and this will eleviate the

> > pain and swelling. Ok so now my question. Is all that connected to

> > the accident? My doctor says it may have been there before and the

> > injury has made it symptomatic. But wouldn't that have shown up on

> > the other 2 MRI's previous to this last one? THe reason I am asking

> > is that I am in litigation from this injury and I have to give a

> > deposition this week as well as the defendants doctor's exam.

> >

> > I know that I did not have this pain prior to this injury. It has to

> > be relevant. Thanks for anyone help that replies.

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

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Yes I have both of those. I attend a community college part time and the

elevators are often broken, so by the time I climb to the 3rd floor, its killing

me!

Knee Injury

Hello everyone,

I am very new to this board but I need some information. I was

injured in November 2006, where I landed directly on my left knee.

It caused a huge hematoma. I was diagnosed with prepatellar bursitis

as a result. I went threw a month of PT, 2 additional MRI, all same

diagnosis. From March until about September I just lived with the

discomfot and pain. I have a permanent " bruise " as well as

occassional swelling and intermittent pain. I had another MRI done

last week after doing another round of PT. The doctor initially

recommended a bursectomy but said that surgery is a hard one to heal

from, so we opted out of that. After the MRI results came back I was

diagnosed with Chondromalacia grade 3 and Medial plica syndrome.

Nothing mentioned of the prepatellar bursitis. My doctor has

recommended surgery to " clean " it all up and this will eleviate the

pain and swelling. Ok so now my question. Is all that connected to

the accident? My doctor says it may have been there before and the

injury has made it symptomatic. But wouldn't that have shown up on

the other 2 MRI's previous to this last one? THe reason I am asking

is that I am in litigation from this injury and I have to give a

deposition this week as well as the defendants doctor's exam.

I know that I did not have this pain prior to this injury. It has to

be relevant. Thanks for anyone help that replies.

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

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Here is some info;

http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/html/knee/knee_anatomy/capsule01.html

This site also has some good discussion groups.

also:

http://orthopedics.about.com/cs/arthritis/g/synovitis.htm

Synovitis caused by RA:

http://arthritis.about.com/od/arthritisbyanatomy/ss/causejointpain_3.htm

Mike

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> >

> > Hello everyone,

> >

> > I am very new to this board but I need some information. I was

> > injured in November 2006, where I landed directly on my left knee.

> > It caused a huge hematoma. I was diagnosed with prepatellar bursitis

> > as a result. I went threw a month of PT, 2 additional MRI, all same

> > diagnosis. From March until about September I just lived with the

> > discomfot and pain. I have a permanent " bruise " as well as

> > occassional swelling and intermittent pain. I had another MRI done

> > last week after doing another round of PT. The doctor initially

> > recommended a bursectomy but said that surgery is a hard one to heal

> > from, so we opted out of that. After the MRI results came back I was

> > diagnosed with Chondromalacia grade 3 and Medial plica syndrome.

> > Nothing mentioned of the prepatellar bursitis. My doctor has

> > recommended surgery to " clean " it all up and this will eleviate the

> > pain and swelling. Ok so now my question. Is all that connected to

> > the accident? My doctor says it may have been there before and the

> > injury has made it symptomatic. But wouldn't that have shown up on

> > the other 2 MRI's previous to this last one? THe reason I am asking

> > is that I am in litigation from this injury and I have to give a

> > deposition this week as well as the defendants doctor's exam.

> >

> > I know that I did not have this pain prior to this injury. It has to

> > be relevant. Thanks for anyone help that replies.

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> > Be a better friend, newshound, and

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> >

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when are you scheduled for the scope surgery? Did he tell you what he will do ?

Has he given you a success rate? Hope everything works out for you.

Keep us posted

thanks Jen

Knee Injury

Hello everyone,

I am very new to this board but I need some information. I was

injured in November 2006, where I landed directly on my left knee.

It caused a huge hematoma. I was diagnosed with prepatellar bursitis

as a result. I went threw a month of PT, 2 additional MRI, all same

diagnosis. From March until about September I just lived with the

discomfot and pain. I have a permanent " bruise " as well as

occassional swelling and intermittent pain. I had another MRI done

last week after doing another round of PT. The doctor initially

recommended a bursectomy but said that surgery is a hard one to heal

from, so we opted out of that. After the MRI results came back I was

diagnosed with Chondromalacia grade 3 and Medial plica syndrome.

Nothing mentioned of the prepatellar bursitis. My doctor has

recommended surgery to " clean " it all up and this will eleviate the

pain and swelling. Ok so now my question. Is all that connected to

the accident? My doctor says it may have been there before and the

injury has made it symptomatic. But wouldn't that have shown up on

the other 2 MRI's previous to this last one? THe reason I am asking

is that I am in litigation from this injury and I have to give a

deposition this week as well as the defendants doctor's exam.

I know that I did not have this pain prior to this injury. It has to

be relevant. Thanks for anyone help that replies.

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> I " m thinking its inflammation of the tissues that are around the

Knee. Hmm not sure, maybe someone else can chime in on this.

Here's my two cents.

Here is some info;

http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/html/knee/knee_anatomy/capsule01.html

This site also has some good discussion groups.

also:

http://orthopedics.about.com/cs/arthritis/g/synovitis.htm

Synovitis caused by RA:

http://arthritis.about.com/od/arthritisbyanatomy/ss/causejointpain_3.h

tm

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That was exactly what happened with me. According to the research, the

doctors cannot even begin to understand your pain unless you get at least 3

MRI's over an extended time period. Until you find a solution, I would

suggest doing like I am doing. Use RICE as it works best for your

situation---(rest, ice, compression, elevation). Exercise, but don't overdo

it-----medication that works for you----if medication works for you. After

four relatively minor surgeries, I am to the point rest and compression are

getting me by. I live a relatively normal life now, but am careful to not

overdo it. It was to the point four years ago I was virtually bedridden.

Mike

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How do you get a doc to order MRI's? Mine just won't do it. He thinks x-rays

are " good enough. " I'm done with him. I've never had an MRI and was

diagnosed with CP 25 years ago.

Joi

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Good luck. I went to 7 specialists until I felt comfortable with one.

Fortunately I had an understanding insurance company.

Mike

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That was exactly what happened with me. According to the research, the

doctors cannot even begin to understand your pain unless you get at least 3

MRI's over an extended time period. Until you find a solution, I would

suggest doing like I am doing. Use RICE as it works best for your

situation---(rest, ice, compression, elevation). Exercise, but don't overdo

it-----medication that works for you----if medication works for you. After

four relatively minor surgeries, I am to the point rest and compression are

getting me by. I live a relatively normal life now, but am careful to not

overdo it. It was to the point four years ago I was virtually bedridden.

Mike

MT

How do you get a doc to order MRI's? Mine just won't do it. He thinks x-rays

are " good enough. " I'm done with him. I've never had an MRI and was

diagnosed with CP 25 years ago.

Joi

Gizmo, Max, Jazzy, Artemis, Maui

<http://www.toolady.com/www/breeders/joyfulfeathers/index.html>

http://www.toolady.com/www/breeders/joyfulfeathers/index.html

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Good luck. I went to 7 specialists until I felt comfortable with one.

Fortunately I had an understanding insurance company.

Mike

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--- In chondromalacia treatment , " wildwest " > How do you

get a doc to order MRI's? Mine just won't do it. He thinks x-rays

> are " good enough. " I'm done with him. I've never had an MRI and was

> diagnosed with CP 25 years ago.

>

>

>

>

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> How do you get a doc to order MRI's? Mine just won't do it. He

thinks x-rays

> are " good enough. " I'm done with him. I've never had an MRI and was

> diagnosed with CP 25 years ago.

To your doctor's credit, the main thing multiple MRIs would show is

changes in your pain as far as synovitis goes. A good doctor can

gain most of this information by simply sitting with you, looking

into your eyes, and really listening to you. That was one of the

main deciding factors I used in choosing a surgeon. The two surgeons

who did surgery on me looked at my MRI first, but didn't derive

anything conclusive from the MRI. The technologist that did my first

MRI said they had never seen that much inflammation in the knee and

calf without a major injury.

Mike

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I am scheduled for surgery in March. And basically he will go in and check

things out and clean up what needs to be done. The success rate varies but he

said that about 85% have no pain afterwards, 10% have less pain and 5% no

change. Have you tried seeking a " Sports Medicine " OP? Sometimes they are more

inclined to investigage and really find out whats going on. I would point blank

tell them you want an MRI done so that you can be certain whats going on. xray

don't show everything, and MRI don't always either for that matter. But they do

show more than xrays.

My problem is that mine has been as a result of a personal injury it which I

slipped and fell on a wet surface. The liability in my case is low because they

say I should have seen the wet floor and walked around it. True I suppose but

alot of people were walking across it so I thought it to be safe. No one else

fell but me, so thats against me too. There were no " safety cones " out, but

they say there were. My lawyer has instructed me to settle because if we go to

trial and I lose they will ask the judge that I pay them back lititagtion cost,

I can't risk that. Its little old me, a middle class school employee against a

major world wide company. They offered me money, yet not at all what I would

expect. I have no choice but to take it and walk away. They aren't really

admitting fault, they just want to throw money at me in hopes I go away. Its

really discouraging. and all the while it hasn't been about money as much as

they need to make the

surface a non-skid surface. I have never sued anyone in my life and its

frustrating and embarrassing really. They make you feel you just want money.

Here I am 1000 miles away from home for a deposition that is never gonna happen

because I have no choice but to settle with them. On top of that I have a

terrible cold so I can't even enjoy this little trip as a vacation!

Sorry for the rant, but I am sure you will understand my frustration.

Knee Injury

Hello everyone,

I am very new to this board but I need some information. I was

injured in November 2006, where I landed directly on my left knee.

It caused a huge hematoma. I was diagnosed with prepatellar bursitis

as a result. I went threw a month of PT, 2 additional MRI, all same

diagnosis. From March until about September I just lived with the

discomfot and pain. I have a permanent " bruise " as well as

occassional swelling and intermittent pain. I had another MRI done

last week after doing another round of PT. The doctor initially

recommended a bursectomy but said that surgery is a hard one to heal

from, so we opted out of that. After the MRI results came back I was

diagnosed with Chondromalacia grade 3 and Medial plica syndrome.

Nothing mentioned of the prepatellar bursitis. My doctor has

recommended surgery to " clean " it all up and this will eleviate the

pain and swelling. Ok so now my question. Is all that connected to

the accident? My doctor says it may have been there before and the

injury has made it symptomatic. But wouldn't that have shown up on

the other 2 MRI's previous to this last one? THe reason I am asking

is that I am in litigation from this injury and I have to give a

deposition this week as well as the defendants doctor's exam.

I know that I did not have this pain prior to this injury. It has to

be relevant. Thanks for anyone help that replies.

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Hi

So basically he will just clean it up. Will he be doing a latarl release? Is

there a medical term that he gave you as to what he will do?

Thanks you

Jen

Knee Injury

Hello everyone,

I am very new to this board but I need some information. I was

injured in November 2006, where I landed directly on my left knee.

It caused a huge hematoma. I was diagnosed with prepatellar bursitis

as a result. I went threw a month of PT, 2 additional MRI, all same

diagnosis. From March until about September I just lived with the

discomfot and pain. I have a permanent " bruise " as well as

occassional swelling and intermittent pain. I had another MRI done

last week after doing another round of PT. The doctor initially

recommended a bursectomy but said that surgery is a hard one to heal

from, so we opted out of that. After the MRI results came back I was

diagnosed with Chondromalacia grade 3 and Medial plica syndrome.

Nothing mentioned of the prepatellar bursitis. My doctor has

recommended surgery to " clean " it all up and this will eleviate the

pain and swelling. Ok so now my question. Is all that connected to

the accident? My doctor says it may have been there before and the

injury has made it symptomatic. But wouldn't that have shown up on

the other 2 MRI's previous to this last one? THe reason I am asking

is that I am in litigation from this injury and I have to give a

deposition this week as well as the defendants doctor's exam.

I know that I did not have this pain prior to this injury. It has to

be relevant. Thanks for anyone help that replies.

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Re: Knee Injury

Can you get another doctor? Yours is trying to save money at your expense.

And don't let them substitute a CT scan for an MRI, another money saver -- the

radiation from a CT scan is very high. There's been a lot of discussion in med

journals lately about the dangers of using CT vs. MRI, esp. for soft tissue

scanning.

Sometimes we'll run up against a doctor who's forgotten the Hippocratic Oath &

we have to be strong to resist their unhelpful help.

Ann

How do you get a doc to order MRI's? Mine just won't do it. He thinks x-rays

are " good enough. " I'm done with him. I've never had an MRI and was

diagnosed with CP 25 years ago.

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>

> Hi Bee,

>

> First of all I just want to tell you that you, your mother and your whole

family are in my thoughts and prayers. So sorry to hear you're going through

that.

>

> I went to the doctor on Tuesday and had some xrays even though I know xrays

are bad...I just knew something wasn't right. My dr believes I have a meniscus

cartilage tear from the pain I described in my right knee but feel some pain in

my left knee so I might have a minor tear in that one also. Xrays can't detect

this type of tear so I have to get an MRI next Friday. Are MRIs also really bad?

>

> She prescribed pain pills but I haven't even filled them. I've been putting

oil of oregano on it once a day and keeping it elevated throughout the day. The

pain is very unbearable at times though.

>

> I've also been having horrible detox reactions from cheating at times over the

holidays, getting the xrays and also I think stress from the injury. I can just

tell my body is going through a really hard time.

>

> I had the egg drink this morning and had diarehha 8 times just while drinking

it. Horrible headaches, liver pain and red, itchy skin.

>

> I've taken a few epsom salt baths and was going to do a few coffee enemas in

the next few weeks to help my body detox. I would dry skin brush but it's hard

for me to stand right now.

>

> Is there anything else I should do to help me through this hard time? What if

I have to have surgery on my knee or both knees? I really don't want to because

of the drugs they'll give me but I don't know what to do I'm in so much pain.

>

> Thanks for all your advice and again you are in my thoughts and prayers.

+++Hi ,

Thank you for your prayers for me and my Mom.

This program helps your body get rid of the bad effects of x-rays and MRIs. It

is possible you'll need surgery. I've known others on this program who had

similar kinds of surgery and they are doing well, but they don't take

antibiotics recommended, and only take pain killers to get through the worst

pain after surgery.

You will detoxify more, and your knee will be worse when you cheat.

All the best, Bee

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