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Hey Group,

Wow! I was awoken in the night to my stomach gurgling very loud! Very Loud!

What's up with that?

Also, I came across a soup yesterday that I ordered. It was cream of Onion

soup. Tasted very good. When it came, I looked at it and realized the

cream in it was real and very creamy like. I had to tastes of it and

decided not to eat for fear of dumping. I haven't had one dumping episide

so far (July 10th) or diarhea either. Will I ever be able to have such

things or is it just one of those things to always stay away from...dairy I

mean? I'm very lucky...I've been able to tolerate most things. Meat, even

beef, salad, some bread,...the only thing that really bothers me is

scrambled eggs. So what do you all think?

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Hi ,

I know that dairy is not my friend! I have no problems with cheeses but milk

and ice cream make me dump (it took me five times experiencing this before I

gave them up!) I have had cream soups like potato and broccoli with no

problems but I am also 2 yrs and 4 months post op. I would absolutely wait

until you are further out before attempting heavier soups.

I couldn't tolerate eggs for the first year but now I have them every

morning. It's amazing as time goes on how you can re-introduce your regular

foods. Actually I never was an egg eater before the surgery but now I crave

them every morning (great source of protein!)

I can't tolerate beef or rice, but I can eat beef from a Chinese restaurant

(is it really beef??). Hope this helps!

Take care,

RE: digestion

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> Hey Group,

>

> Wow! I was awoken in the night to my stomach gurgling very loud! Very

Loud!

> What's up with that?

>

> Also, I came across a soup yesterday that I ordered. It was cream of

Onion

> soup. Tasted very good. When it came, I looked at it and realized the

> cream in it was real and very creamy like. I had to tastes of it and

> decided not to eat for fear of dumping. I haven't had one dumping episide

> so far (July 10th) or diarhea either. Will I ever be able to have such

> things or is it just one of those things to always stay away from...dairy

I

> mean? I'm very lucky...I've been able to tolerate most things. Meat,

even

> beef, salad, some bread,...the only thing that really bothers me is

> scrambled eggs. So what do you all think?

>

>

> 7/10

> 278/242

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I would have gone ahead and tried it. Trial and error is really the

only way to know what you do well with and what you don't. If you

watch the list, the sky is really the limit. Most of us do great with

pretty much everything, dairy included, and some have problems. The

point is that the same things don't give all of us trouble.

Take care,

>

> Hey Group,

>

> Wow! I was awoken in the night to my stomach gurgling very loud!

Very Loud!

> What's up with that?

>

> Also, I came across a soup yesterday that I ordered. It was cream

of Onion

> soup. Tasted very good. When it came, I looked at it and realized the

> cream in it was real and very creamy like. I had to tastes of it and

> decided not to eat for fear of dumping. I haven't had one dumping

episide

> so far (July 10th) or diarhea either. Will I ever be able to have such

> things or is it just one of those things to always stay away

from...dairy I

> mean? I'm very lucky...I've been able to tolerate most things.

Meat, even

> beef, salad, some bread,...the only thing that really bothers me is

> scrambled eggs. So what do you all think?

>

>

> 7/10

> 278/242

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: Could you have milk pre-op? If so; you can try it in small amounts

at first and increase slowly. Different things make different people dump.

I am 21 months out and have only had one episode where I thought I dumped.

It is questionalble but I don't want to try it again to see if I were really

dumping. Milkshake was the culpret. I did have a small amount of ice cream

the other day and did fine. I have never been one who drank much milk.

Not lactose intolerant but just didnt sit well. Phyllis 11-29-2000

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, try it at home first. I don't have any problem with milk products

or dairy. How do you do with your yogurt? Good Luck, Audry

>>> lisadimusto@... 09/18/02 05:07AM >>>

Hey Group,

Wow! I was awoken in the night to my stomach gurgling very loud! Very

Loud!

What's up with that?

Also, I came across a soup yesterday that I ordered. It was cream of

Onion

soup. Tasted very good. When it came, I looked at it and realized the

cream in it was real and very creamy like. I had to tastes of it and

decided not to eat for fear of dumping. I haven't had one dumping

episide

so far (July 10th) or diarhea either. Will I ever be able to have such

things or is it just one of those things to always stay away

from...dairy I

mean? I'm very lucky...I've been able to tolerate most things. Meat,

even

beef, salad, some bread,...the only thing that really bothers me is

scrambled eggs. So what do you all think?

7/10

278/242

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, My stomach gurgles very loud a lot! My husband and I giggle about it. I

have found this happens most at bedtime - go figure! Maybe it's because I'm

still and can hear it.

Sandy

7/31/02

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I call the gurgling we get " pipe sounds " . I still get them once in a while. But

after I had surgery I had rumbling and grumbling and gurgling noises a lot. I

just tried to imagine a long pipe and the food working it's way through the pipe

and going kerplunk into the tummy. That's not anatomically correct but it

suited my imagination.

Flo from land who still gets pipe sounds

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For digestion, you may need to take HCL and then a full specturm enzyme blend such as Allzyme by Rainbow Light and then a blend of intestonal flora such as Kyo-Dopholous ( sp?) by Wakunaga. There are other brands that may be stronger, but these are the basics to good digestion. You can face poor digestion if the food is not broken down to absorb in the stomach lining ( the HCL--I take Hydrozyme by biotics, but Solaray makes HCL with Pepsin). Once the food is broken down (usually take the HCl in the middle of your meal), then take the digestive enzymes after, or mid meal and then afterwards. Definitely take the intestonal flora. Changes are you need to take at leasst 2 per meal or more.

Jag

maybe unrelated to your questions, but millet is a thyroid blocker. Alsothe craving for carbs and aversion to meat suggests that your copper andzinc might be out of balance. This is seen when there is copperoverload. It may be connected to problems with yeast. A highcopper/mercury environment favours yeast growth - the yeast causes carbs craving.As well as Cordyceps, the herb Milk Thistle could help. It protects andnourishes both liver and kidneys.I'd also suggest digestive enzymes - the enzymes help with more thanjust digestion - there are used for healing wherever there is a problem.Gail

>> Hi everyone. I was hoping to get some more advice on my Iodine> journey. :0) This time about mercury detox and kidneys.>> I started Iodoral with supplements (from Steph's site) just over amonth> ago. I had horrible detox issues (dizzy, stomach aches, brain fog...).> I alternated clay/epsom salt/sea salt baths daily which really helped,> did coffee enemas and detox foot pads - all to help with the detox. I> think they all helped a lot.>> I feel much better now, but am having what I believe may be kidney> issues. Any form of magnesium almost immediately causes my lower back> (kidney area) to hurt. I have to eat a low

protein and low fat diet,> because otherwise I feel sick about 2 hours after eating. I am having> trouble finding what to eat, as I am hungry, but nothing seems to feel> good to eat. Not even fruit. I eat a lot of toast (millet and flax),> pasta (brown rice) and rice. I used to love meat and fruit and milk> (raw). Now don't feel like eating it much. I still try to eat a bit> of meat daily, but not much.>> I had a lot of mercury put in my mouth when I was 8 and it was> improperly/unsafely removed when I was 19. I then had more put in five> years later. What a mess. I still have some now. I must have had a> lot of mercury that is being detoxed by the iodine I am now taking.>> Question is, how to help my kidneys while detoxing mercury / taking> iodoral (2/day)? I remember having this lower back pain on and offwhen> ever taking any kind of vitamins

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thanks bee for answering my question about drinking with meals. i have been

told not to. i recently went on a veg juice fast and liver cleanse for 7 days

with colonics and after she wouldnt let me drink after juices or after meals

after fast, my nutritionist at present said no drinking but it i dont drink 2

glasses of water my food never moves. i also have a pancreatin deficiency so i

need lots digestive enzymes. i use the body ecolody assist veg enzymes and gi

small assist pancreatin enzymes and hcl and pepsin. is it ok to have green veg

juices in the morning. i only drink water or water with bit lemon and bit salt

in as i have a tendency for low sodium as i drink so much. i drink 5 litres

water day to keep hydrated as i have a history of bowel impaions and i get

paranoid. if i eat and drink 1 - 2 glasses how long after this should u

wait before u drink again. u say take hcl 40 mins after meals can u drink 1 - 2

glasses with this.

for some reason i am waking tasting supplements and food i have eaten. also

coco oil or oils seems to sit and dont digest. i started taking the nature

sunshine food enzymes but woke up tasting the ox bile not dissolving. any

ideas. nutritionist says upper pyloric splincter or ic valve and no to eat raw

food.

is it okj to take bitters before meals to stim digestion. also colosan or

oxypowder when needed.

some days i fast on water or just have veg juice, and fish and veg for lunch

and another veg juice for tea. is this ok

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