Guest guest Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Are you asking a question? Sorry I don't understand. Steph Thyroid Meds -For t-cell lymphoma on Gerson Threapy for the last 14 months pl suggest if the thyroid meds being taken are ok.Last test result: TSH 4.51 ul/mL (0.25-3.0 ul/mL), FT3 2.8pg/mL (1.8-3.9 pg/mL), FT4 0.6 ng/dl (0.8-1.7 ng/dL) Armour 2 grains/day and lugol half strength 6 drops/dayThanks.........AKP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Yes please ----whether the thyroid & lugol meds are ok as per the blood report. AKP > > Are you asking a question? Sorry I don't understand. > > Steph > > Thyroid Meds > > > - > For t-cell lymphoma on Gerson Threapy for the last 14 months pl suggest if the thyroid meds being taken are ok. > Last test result: TSH 4.51 ul/mL (0.25-3.0 ul/mL), FT3 2.8pg/mL (1.8-3.9 pg/mL), FT4 0.6 ng/dl (0.8-1.7 ng/dL) Armour 2 grains/day and lugol half strength 6 drops/day > Thanks.........AKP > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 I use the pink salt from Nepal. It also is all natural and is not cleaned with any chemicals. Fibrojay In a message dated 3/11/2009 2:32:01 P.M. Romance Standard Time, brdurham@... writes: Would Himalayan Salt work in place of the Celtic salt? ( It's a pink salt.) From: ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbeessbcglobal (DOT) net>Subject: Re: Re: Thyroid Medsiodine Date: Wednesday, March 11, 2009, 3:13 AM Yes your numbers are low. I would also consider 200-400 mcg Selenium, Vit C 2,000 - 4,000 mgs, Mg 200 mgs and celtic salt 1/2 - 1 tsp per day. Steph Thyroid Meds> > > -> For t-cell lymphoma on Gerson Threapy for the last 14 months pl suggest if the thyroid meds being taken are ok.> Last test result: TSH 4.51 ul/mL (0.25-3.0 ul/mL), FT3 2.8pg/mL (1.8-3.9 pg/mL), FT4 0.6 ng/dl (0.8-1..7 ng/dL) Armour 2 grains/day and lugol half strength 6 drops/day> Thanks...... ...AKP> A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Yes your numbers are low. I would also consider 200-400 mcg Selenium, Vit C 2,000 - 4,000 mgs, Mg 200 mgs and celtic salt 1/2 - 1 tsp per day. Steph Thyroid Meds> > > -> For t-cell lymphoma on Gerson Threapy for the last 14 months pl suggest if the thyroid meds being taken are ok.> Last test result: TSH 4.51 ul/mL (0.25-3.0 ul/mL), FT3 2.8pg/mL (1.8-3.9 pg/mL), FT4 0.6 ng/dl (0.8-1.7 ng/dL) Armour 2 grains/day and lugol half strength 6 drops/day> Thanks.........AKP> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Would Himalayan Salt work in place of the Celtic salt? ( It's a pink salt.) From: ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...>Subject: Re: Re: Thyroid Medsiodine Date: Wednesday, March 11, 2009, 3:13 AM Yes your numbers are low. I would also consider 200-400 mcg Selenium, Vit C 2,000 - 4,000 mgs, Mg 200 mgs and celtic salt 1/2 - 1 tsp per day. Steph Thyroid Meds> > > -> For t-cell lymphoma on Gerson Threapy for the last 14 months pl suggest if the thyroid meds being taken are ok.> Last test result: TSH 4.51 ul/mL (0.25-3.0 ul/mL), FT3 2.8pg/mL (1.8-3.9 pg/mL), FT4 0.6 ng/dl (0.8-1..7 ng/dL) Armour 2 grains/day and lugol half strength 6 drops/day> Thanks...... ...AKP> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Yes you just want unrefined salt. That can be celtic, himalayan or redmonds. But that being said many report feeling better on Celtic for some reason. Steph Thyroid Meds> > > -> For t-cell lymphoma on Gerson Threapy for the last 14 months pl suggest if the thyroid meds being taken are ok.> Last test result: TSH 4.51 ul/mL (0.25-3.0 ul/mL), FT3 2.8pg/mL (1.8-3.9 pg/mL), FT4 0.6 ng/dl (0.8-1..7 ng/dL) Armour 2 grains/day and lugol half strength 6 drops/day> Thanks...... ...AKP> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 Hi Katy: Here are some websites for you to check out, naturalthyroidchoices.com and stopthethyroidmadness.com Hoping will see this post and give you more advice. From: katylee53 <johnsonb@...>Subject: thyroid medsiodine Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 7:07 AM , I did not answer your question properly. I am on .88 levoyxl and 4 mg. compounded time release t3 every day. I have been on this awhile. My doctor just recently dropped my dosage due to my high Rt3. I just don't understand why all of the things I have t4ried for my adrenals and thyroid make me feel worse instead of better. It sounds like others here have good luck with all of these protocols.Katy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 See what? Sorry I am buried in work trying to get my herbology class done. I had a final exam today and I have one more project to complete by tomorrow. Steph thyroid medsiodine Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 7:07 AM , I did not answer your question properly. I am on .88 levoyxl and 4 mg. compounded time release t3 every day. I have been on this awhile. My doctor just recently dropped my dosage due to my high Rt3. I just don't understand why all of the things I have t4ried for my adrenals and thyroid make me feel worse instead of better. It sounds like others here have good luck with all of these protocols.Katy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Approximately 6 weeks - to be COMPLETELY gone because of the long half life of thyroxine. However, it depends on why you want to know Janet. Luv - Sheila Hi how long does it take for thyroid medication levothyroxine, nature-throid to be completely out of our systems. thanks jan No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2896 - Release Date: 05/25/10 18:26:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 > Approximately 6 weeks - to be COMPLETELY gone because of the long half life of > thyroxine. Sheila,, how does this work when we switch to erfa? I took LevoT for 6 weeks to give it a fair trial, and my TSH was the same as it had been on erfa, but I felt fuzzy and more important, put on 5 lbs. I say more important because at that rate I'd be obese within a year. So I've put myself back on the erfa dose I was prescribed in Canada (60) and in 5 days I've lost 2.5 of the pounds. I don't feel quite right, though -- a few joint aches, for example -- and I wonder what the lingering effect of the LevoT in my system might be. Maybe too much T4 at the moment? But as I said before, thank heavens I found this group and how to get the erfa that works for me or I'd be getting frantic. Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 Hi Jan, T4 has a half life of about 6 days so 6x6 is 36 days. > thyroid treatment > From: janettaylor44@...> Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 11:15:33 +0000> Subject: thyroid meds> > Hi > how long does it take for thyroid medication levothyroxine, nature-throid to be completely out of our systems.> thanks> jan > > > > ------------------------------------> > TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication.> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 Are you actually feeling the symptoms of being hyPERthyroid? i.e. palpitations, sweating, dizziness, feeling 'spaced-out' and fidgety. If so, reduce your Erfa by half a grain for a few days, and then increase it again by another quarter of a grain. With some people, stopping their levothyroxine on one day and starting thyroid extract on the next works fine - it did with me when I was taking 125mcgs levothyroxine and then stopped it to take half a grain (30mgs) of Armour. However, for others, you need to take it more slowly, but you cannot stop levothyroxine for the full six weeks before you start natural thyroid extract - you would be too ill. It is best to always check whether you have low adrenal reserve, and to start adrenal glandulars on their own, for a week if this is the case, before introducing more thyroid replacement. Luv - Sheila. I took LevoT for 6 weeks to give it a fair trial, and my TSH was the same as it had been on erfa, but I felt fuzzy and more important, put on 5 lbs. I say more important because at that rate I'd be obese within a year. So I've put myself back on the erfa dose I was prescribed in Canada (60) and in 5 days I've lost 2.5 of the pounds. I don't feel quite right, though -- a few joint aches, for example -- and I wonder what the lingering effect of the LevoT in my system might be. Maybe too much T4 at the moment? Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (3) Recent Activity: · New Members 17 · New Links 1 · New Files 2 Visit Your Group TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication. MARKETPLACE Stay on top of your group activity without leaving the page you're on - Get the Toolbar now. Get great advice about dogs and cats. Visit the Dog & Cat Answers Center. Hobbies & Activities Zone: Find others who share your passions! Explore new interests. Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use .. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2896 - Release Date: 05/25/10 18:26:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 >Patience! you know it will take 6 weeks for changes in T4 level >regardless whay type of med they originate from so it dose take time >for it to settle- you're obviously going in the right direction. Try >not to worry as you can't speed up the process that way;-) Jo, I have had a right year myself and not always too patient either. Although it takes 6 weeks to notice the full effects, I always find a gradual improvement, i.e. from week one. So chances are you may have a better weekend than you have had for a while, but in a few weeks, even better... Just relax and know that you will have a better few weeks ahead, you know in comparison to how you were. Fiona. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 Hi Sheila, Sorry it's taken me a few days to reply, been down south for a few days and had no access to internet. The reason i wanted to know how long it takes for thyroid meds to be completely out of our systems, because the nurse at GP surgery asked me to stop taking my thyroid medication for two weeks before had my bloods taken for what reason i dont know. As you know i have lost complete faith in the NSH but did as she asked but now i have started to feel quite weak, so today i have taken taken 1 grain of nature-throid, plus for a week or more i have been taking NAX, Q10, AND VIT C just in case my adrenals are a bit stressed out. I have an appointment with the gp today, and i am going to ask for me and my daughter be refered to doctor p to get well again so fingers crossed. luv jan -- On Wed, 26/5/10, Sheila <sheila@...> wrote: From: Sheila <sheila@...>Subject: RE: thyroid medsthyroid treatment Date: Wednesday, 26 May, 2010, 18:07 Approximately 6 weeks - to be COMPLETELY gone because of the long half life of thyroxine. However, it depends on why you want to know Janet. Luv - Sheila Hi how long does it take for thyroid medication levothyroxine, nature-throid to be completely out of our systems.thanksjan No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2896 - Release Date: 05/25/10 18:26:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 Jan - you don't need a referral to see Dr Peatfield. Where about in the UK do you live. Have a look at his clinic details in our web site www.tpa-uk.org.uk and see if there is one reasonably near to you. You will find details of these in the right hand column on the Home Page under TPA-UK News. No wonder you are feeling so bad, I would ask the nurse to give you a reference to the medical science to show that you should stop levothyroxine for 2 weeks before a blood draw to test your thyroid function. The recommendation is for 24 hours only. This would cause a lot of patients some distress, and it would take them some time again to get back to normal. The idea of doing thyroid function tests, is to see whether the dose of thyroid hormone you are taking is actually stabilising the levels of thyroid hormone in the body. Luv - Sheila Hi Sheila, Sorry it's taken me a few days to reply, been down south for a few days and had no access to internet. The reason i wanted to know how long it takes for thyroid meds to be completely out of our systems, because the nurse at GP surgery asked me to stop taking my thyroid medication for two weeks before had my bloods taken for what reason i dont know. As you know i have lost complete faith in the NSH but did as she asked but now i have started to feel quite weak, so today i have taken taken 1 grain of nature-throid, plus for a week or more i have been taking NAX, Q10, AND VIT C just in case my adrenals are a bit stressed out. I have an appointment with the gp today, and i am going to ask for me and my daughter be refered to doctor p to get well again so fingers crossed. luv jan No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2907 - Release Date: 05/31/10 18:25:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 > The reason i wanted to know how long it takes for thyroid meds to be completely out of our systems, because the nurse at GP surgery asked me to stop taking my thyroid medication for two weeks before had my bloods taken for what reason i dont know. What's all this stopping meds to do with? Is it because the GP thought you were borderline and worthy of a trial of Levothyroxine and wants to work out if you still need it? Or is it more like my prior sitaution, that I saw DR P and they didn't want to believe I had thyroid and adrenal problems based on the urine and saliva tests? I had to stop for a whole month and it was a nightmare last August! I queried it after two weeks because I was climbing the walls and couldn't cope on no meds, but was told to stick it out for a full month. Granted by then I did get official diagnosis and the whole month was enough time for the TSH to rise out of range. However during this month all the symptoms came back of course. I did carry on with the adrenal supplements, because I needed something to stop me going totally bed ridden again. However I expect taking nutri thyroid or similar would defeat the object. Therefore during these few weeks of no thyroid meds, I cancelled uncle's visit to stay with us, didn't do very much at all and operated on a basis of if it's urgent I would do it, but if not, it's left... Therefore on the basis of all the symptoms coming back, I wouldn't recommend to anybody stopping tablets for 2,4,6 weeks. However I have been through this crazy sitution, do have an official thyroid diagnosis and have just re-started some T3, granted not at my last year's dose, but it is official. I have found 3 stages to all this: Make myself very ill to prove a point: Be on Levothyroxine for a while and increase dose a few times Finally starting T3, which I had done before Final stage would be to get my functioning back, or even better it from a year ago. All this time, I have stuck with the adrenal supplements (apart from to do with synacthin test) because I know they help. It sounds like you have some sort of rigmarole going on, some sort of proving that you need help or something? Therefore if it is anything to do with fighting for help/proving a point to NHS doctors that you need help, then you might have to go with it. Eeek, I wouldn't really recommend it as I have had a poor 12 months through all this, but am getting there on the official recognition front. So what is your situation? Is stopping tablets really necessary? Have you asked the reason why it is necessary? Or is your situation similar to mine? Because if you don't have to make yourself ill, don't but if you do have to make yourself ill, as part of a fighting/proving something to GP then good luck! Fiona. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 Hi, My OH stopped taking his NDT and T3 before he had blood drawn. He wanted to prove to his GP that he did indeed have hypot. He was going to stop for 6 weeks but could only last 3 weeks. His TSH was 2.5 after almost 3 weeks off meds - which I think was high. He has not felt right since stopping but at least it eventually got him officially diagnosed and the NDT and T3 on prescription. I think it was a shock to his system when he went for three weeks without meds - I don't know what the long term effect would be but how else could his GP find out where his TSH was. B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 > My OH stopped taking his NDT and T3 before he had blood drawn. He wanted to prove to his GP that he did indeed have hypot. He was going to stop for 6 weeks but could only last 3 weeks. His TSH was 2.5 after almost 3 weeks off meds - which I think was high. He has not felt right since stopping but at least it eventually got him officially diagnosed and the NDT and T3 on prescription. > > I think it was a shock to his system when he went for three weeks without meds - I don't know what the long term effect would be but how else could his GP find out where his TSH was. > Hi ! This makes sense now. Actually looking back, I don't know how I did it, for a whole month in August you know! As for 6 weeks... It does defy common sense to have to come off tablets you know are working, make yourself ill and start again, just for official diagnosis and treatment. If there was official diagnosis and treatment in mainstream medicine in the first place, all this wouldn't be necessary as soon as the likes of us have got over the worst. I am glad it is not just me who has had to make myself ill to prove I needed thyroid meds (not glad he has gone through this rubbish, you know what I mean). With a month of no meds, my TSH was out of range. I agree about it being a shock to the system and I have not liked starting from scratch. But at least I have had a week back on some T3 now (one week out of 10 months). Is he offically on the same dose that he was doing on a private basis? Or is it slowly building up again? You know from scratch? Fiona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 Hi Fiona, After giving up the meds for three weeks - I made him start on one grain of NDT and after a week he added another. He then started with the T3 at 20mcg and slowly increased. Within a month he was back to his usual doses. Now that he has got his NHS prescription for NDT and T3 he is going to experiment with the doses as the endo said his T3 seemed low indicating he was under medicated. He may lower the NDT and increase the T3 - but the bottom line is how he feels and not necessarily the blood test results. B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 > " After giving up the meds for three weeks - I made him start on one grain of NDT and after a week he added another. He then started with the T3 at 20mcg and slowly increased. Within a month he was back to his usual doses. " > I see what you mean. In an ideal world, I would have liked to have done that. There are so many times when my husband has wondered why I couldn't have been officially started on equivalent dose, rather than starting from scratch. The endocrinologist that I have seen seems pro T3, but wanted to see if I would be OK on Levothyroxine first as I had never had it. It was only a couple of weeks after coming off the tablets for a month, when the referral came through and the GP was happy to prescribe Levothyroxine. Was it the endocrinologist that recommended to the GP to prescribe the NDT and the correct dose of this medication? Admittedly my endocrinologist said he would still monitor me if I wanted to go back to Armour, but clearly he hasn't exactly recommended it either, so I can imagine a sticky point as to what dose etc. So I am trying to get optimum T3 first on the NHS over the next appointment or two and take it from there. This is because T3 seems to be the easier of the two to get and is in the BNF. > " Now that he has got his NHS prescription for NDT and T3 he is going to experiment with the doses as the endo said his T3 seemed low indicating he was under medicated. He may lower the NDT and increase the T3 - but the bottom line is how he feels and not necessarily the blood test results. " > That's fair enough . I am all for trial and error, as long as he's heading in the right direction and not going worse at any point. I do wonder if somehow a really good dose of T3 is the key and a minimal amount of T4 to go with it. It sounds to me like your husband is getting somewhere. I am amazed that the consultant didn't mind him taking the NDT and it's all officially prescribed now. Clearly many wouldn't approve it or would say to patients that they can take what they want, but they are not prescribing it. That would have been all well and good, but it would have been back to self-funding, which isn't ideal in the long run. Had the latter happened, I guess he would have suffered those few weeks on no meds for nothing and it would have defeated the object. So all this must be a huge relief in the long run, knowing that it's about a spot of trial and error now, fine tuning perhaps. Fiona. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 MODERATED TO REMOVE PREVIOUS MESSAGES ALREADY READ. PLEASE LEAVE JUST A PORTION OF WHAT YOU ARE RESPONDING TO. LUV - SHEILA _________________________________ Hi Shelia and everyone, I am going to need your HELP and ADVISE please I went to the doctors yesterday it didnt go as well as i expected it to. He refused to refer me to see a dr on the NHS until he has read my notes as iam a fairly new to the surgery, and he is going to ring me and let me know so i will have to wait till he rings me back . He also said that i looked stressed and said that it could be something else thats making me feel like this and to focus on stress and depression Yes I admit I have been under a lot of stress of late due to family life and moving house, but I dont want to go on any depression tablets unless I really need to. PREVIOUS MEDICATION Eltroxin 75mgs 3 quarter grains nature thyroid I stopped taking all medication 2/3 weeks ago after nurse in surgery said i needed to for blood tests but started to feel weak and had internal shivering around abdomen Known medical conditions gallstones. Last week i started taking 1 nax 30 drps of ginsing vit c Q10 1 tablet daily Yesterday started taking 1 grain of nature-thyroid How long should I wait and how will I know if I need to take more nature- thyroid? In the past when I've taken it I have wanted to pee a lot and I get a pain in my groin usually on one sided which causes me to limp and pain in the lower back this usually comes on a few weeks after starting to take the nature Thyroid.i also get the pain in the groin after taking nax ginsing vit c Q 10. I am due to have bloods taken how long should i wait to have blood drawn baring in mind i only started 1 grain nature-thyroid yesterday. thanks luv Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Hi Janet, don't increase your dose of Armour until you have been taking it for at least 3 to 4 weeks. If no adverse reactions, you can add another half grain (30mgs) and stay on that for another 3 to 4 weeks, and then increase it in the same way again. Go to our FILES section which you will find on the Home Page of this forum web site and open the FOLDER on 'Armour' and then scroll down until you see the document " How to Use Thyroid Extract " and read all the information there. I can understand your GP not wishing to refer you until he has read your medical notes, he obviously wishes to familiarise himself with you before deciding what action needs to be taken. The FIRST things doctors seem to diagnose these days is depression, but they never seem to look into trying to find possible causes for the depression. There are clinical reasons, such as not enough thyroid hormone getting into the cells. The brain needs T3. Synthetic thyroxine is only one of the thyroid hormones and a mainly inactive one. It has to convert to the active hormone T3, but for a large minority, they are unable to convert, so their body and brain is not getting the active thyroid hormone it needs to make it function. Internal shivering as you describe could be due to you having adrenal fatigue, and you may well benefit from getting the 24 hour salivary adrenal profile done to see where your cortisol and DHEA lie at four specific times during the day, You can get this done through Genova Diagnostics where they give TPA members a discount. Again, go to our FILES section and click on 'Discounts' to find out how to get this and follow the instructions there. Whenever you get blood drawn to test your thyroid function, stop taking thyroid hormone replacement for at least 24 hours before the test. You were probably getting the pains you mentioned before because you were taking insufficient thyroid extract. We recommend increasing the dose by half a grain every 3 to 4 weeks until you DO start to get symptoms of hyperthyroidism - these are possibly palpitations, dizziness, sweating, feeling spaced out and generally hyper. This is a sign that your body has got enough thyroid hormone replacement, and you don't take any more that day, but the following day, you go back to the dose you were on before. This is how you find the amount of thyroid replacement your body actually needs, and the dose will likely be the dose you will need for the rest of your life. Luv - Sheila PREVIOUS MEDICATION Eltroxin 75mgs 3 quarter grains nature thyroid I stopped taking all medication 2/3 weeks ago after nurse in surgery said i needed to for blood tests but started to feel weak and had internal shivering around abdomen Known medical conditions gallstones. Last week i started taking 1 nax 30 drps of ginsing vit c Q10 1 tablet daily Yesterday started taking 1 grain of nature-thyroid How long should I wait and how will I know if I need to take more nature- thyroid? In the past when I've taken it I have wanted to pee a lot and I get a pain in my groin usually on one sided which causes me to limp and pain in the lower back this usually comes on a few weeks after starting to take the nature Thyroid.i also get the pain in the groin after taking nax ginsing vit c Q 10. I am due to have bloods taken how long should i wait to have blood drawn baring in mind i only started 1 grain nature-thyroid yesterday. thanks luv Jan No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2911 - Release Date: 06/01/10 18:25:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Hi Jan, For T4 to totally leave the system takes about 25 days- it has a half life of 5 days,but it does depend slightly on who you read, so after 2 weeks there would be very little left, but it may not be long enough for TSH to respond- in some low thyroid states the body does not seem to be able to raise TSH for months if at all. Are you trying for a NHS diagnosis? I can think of no other reason for you to stop thyroid meds for so long. usually no meds on day of test until after blood has been drawn is sufficient. You do not need a referral to see Dr. P thyroid treatment From: janettaylor44@...Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 10:47:55 +0000Subject: RE: thyroid meds Hi Sheila, Sorry it's taken me a few days to reply, been down south for a few days and had no access to internet. The reason i wanted to know how long it takes for thyroid meds to be completely out of our systems, because the nurse at GP surgery asked me to stop taking my thyroid medication for two weeks before had my bloods taken for what reason i dont know. As you know i have lost complete faith in the NSH but did as she asked but now i have started to feel quite weak, so today i have taken taken 1 grain of nature-throid, plus for a week or more i have been taking NAX, Q10, AND VIT C just in case my adrenals are a bit stressed out. I have an appointment with the gp today, and i am going to ask for me and my daughter be refered to doctor p to get well again so fingers crossed. Get a free e-mail account with Hotmail. Sign-up now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Hi, If you have stopped your thyroid meds then of course you would look stressed- being ill is stress!. don't delay too long letting him read your notes. you obviously need to be back on your thyroid meds! Get a free e-mail account with Hotmail. Sign-up now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 > > Hi Bee, > > I was wondering, I also am dependant on Synthroid everyday beings the Medical world took mine out. Is there a natural alternative to taking Synthroid out there besides Armour or any other prescription? As I absolutely hate the thought of having to depend on a chemical drug for the rest of my life, and would love to learn of a more natural way to replace the hormone that I need. +++Hi Carol. I also do not have thyroid, so I take a combination of synthroid and dessicated natural thyroid meds (I live in Canada so it isn't called Armour). We don't have any choice other than these meds my friend. But you can take a combination like I do, but I take a pill 3 times a day which keeps the blood levels up, which are: one 30 mg natural in the morning one 0.025 mg synthroid noon or so one 30 mg natural in the morning Since I'd taken synthroid for so long I tried taking only natural dessicated thyroid, but didn't do well, so I worked out the amounts above and my doctor wrote the prescription for them. It has worked well for about 12 years. I've seen endocrinologist too and they agree it is a perfect combination. >> Also I have noticed that if I take too much Coconut oil my heart rate goes way up which scares me because one of my many ailments is chest pains. And I'm sure its my heart. Do you think that I should wait a few hours after taking the Syntroid before I consume the Coconut oil? +++Coconut oil does speed up metabolism so it can increase your heart rate, which isn't a bad thing. Could you describe your chest pains, i.e. where exactly is it located in your chest, does it come and go, and how long have you had them? Also have you ever had a diagnosis by the doctor you had heart troubles, and if so, when (in years or months)? Chest pains can be caused by stomach digestive issues, so that's why many people end up in emergency thinking they are having a heart attack, but they don't. If you are concerned get a diagnosis from your doctor so you don't have to worry and wonder about it. > Also another thing that I have noticed is that no matter how much I try to adjust my Magnesium/ Calcium I keep getting lower leg pain, as soon as I consume Magnesium. The same thing happens when I take the Sea salt. I am still taking it, but just wish I knew how to stop the lower leg pain. +++Is it pain, or do your muscles cramp, like a Charlie Horse, since the difference is unmistakable. If it is pain it wouldn't be caused by an imbalance of cal/mag or minerals, since it is caused by toxins. If you get muscle cramps, which leg is it, left or right, or both? +++Could you be having anything that is diuretic like caffeine, teas, lots of green leafy vegetables, baking soda, green drinks, chlorophyll, etc.??? The best, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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