thyroid meds

February 24, 2011

Hi Bee

Thank's for the quick reply.

I wouldnt mind trying the combination that you are doing with the thyroid meds,

however the Army only carrys Synthroid, which is ashame, because I think that

the Natural dissicated would probably be a great addition. Three years ago, my

family rushed me to the hospital because I was having severe chest pains, after

numerous test, ekg's, echocardiograms, cardiac catherization. The doctor

diagnosed me with Myocarditis. He said that the left ventricular of my heart was

slightly enlarged, probably due to a virus. I had just recently gotten over a

severe case of Bronchitis. It had been so bad that I was having to prop myself

up at night in order to breathe properly.

My heart rate used to run around 80, but since the night I was rushed to the

hospital, it has been running anywhere from 90 to 110 even when sitting and

relaxed.

My blood pressure stays low at like 90/50 or 100/70 , but I always have a high

heart rate.

After going back and forth to the hospital a few times, he told me that although

the left ventricle looked better after sometime, that he thought that I would

always have abit of a heart problem, which I did not completely understand. I

was dealing with a German doctor, they lose patience very quickly with their

American patients because we ask questions, as to where the Germans don't, they

just take the advice of the doctor and go on. So I didnt get very far with all

of this.

I had to report to our Army clinic with the report from the hospital, and then

they ran only blood test, and one EKG and told me that I didnt have a heart

problem. Which I do not believe, as I have such a high heart rate from day to

day. And if I over do things I get very weak very fast and start breathing heavy

like Im gasping for air.

I'm 5 foot 6 inches in height and I weigh 150 lbs, so Im not like incredibly

overweight, I'm fairly active. The chest pains are usually in the center of my

chest between the boobs, just slightly to the left of the sternum. I also suffer

terribly and I do mean completely awful upper back pains which feels like its

behind the shoulder blades. Sometimes when Im sitting still I can feel like a

slight vibration back there like something is having a spasm. I've been to the

doctors so many times now. Have had so many different tests done now. I had them

do a xray on my spine, but they said it looked ok, apart from finding bone spurs

on my spine. Nothing was followed up from that. The Army clinic really does not

seem to care. I even had one doctor there tell me that it was all in my head,

this made me severly depressed, because I'm not some idiot that is imagining

things. I'm 47, A mom of four children, I used to be a very active woman, but

now I have so much going wrong with me, and yet every time I have seeked help I

have come up with no true help.

Sometimes I get my husband to rub our electric massage hand held unit over my

back when Im in severly intense pain, and I have noticed that when he goes over

a certain part just to the left of my spine towards the center between the two

shoulder blades that it feels like he's hitting something that sends like a

shock like feeling around the left side going towards under my left boob. Its

uncomfortable, but makes me wonder if this is all related. Do you know what I

mean?

The leg pain is usually the left leg, and the pain seems to come and go, like a

shooting type of pain, and then it will subside. Usually on the front just

slightly towards the right of the front of the shin. I know its not shin splints

because I know how they feel.

I do have one cup of coffee in the mornings, I used to drink it through out the

day, but since trying to be on your diet, I have cut it down to one cup a day,

which I'm proud of lol

the pain in the leg is definately not a charlie horse either. I used to get

those alot as a kid at night time in bed for some reason.

Hugs to you Bee,

Carol

From: beeisbuzzing2003@...

Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:42:18 +0000

Subject: [ ] Re: Thyroid Meds

>

> Hi Bee,

>

> I was wondering, I also am dependant on Synthroid everyday beings the Medical

world took mine out. Is there a natural alternative to taking Synthroid out

there besides Armour or any other prescription? As I absolutely hate the thought

of having to depend on a chemical drug for the rest of my life, and would love

to learn of a more natural way to replace the hormone that I need.

+++Hi Carol. I also do not have thyroid, so I take a combination of synthroid

and dessicated natural thyroid meds (I live in Canada so it isn't called

Armour). We don't have any choice other than these meds my friend. But you can

take a combination like I do, but I take a pill 3 times a day which keeps the

blood levels up, which are:

one 30 mg natural in the morning

one 0.025 mg synthroid noon or so

one 30 mg natural in the morning

Since I'd taken synthroid for so long I tried taking only natural dessicated

thyroid, but didn't do well, so I worked out the amounts above and my doctor

wrote the prescription for them. It has worked well for about 12 years. I've

seen endocrinologist too and they agree it is a perfect combination.

>> Also I have noticed that if I take too much Coconut oil my heart rate goes

way up which scares me because one of my many ailments is chest pains. And I'm

sure its my heart. Do you think that I should wait a few hours after taking the

Syntroid before I consume the Coconut oil?

+++Coconut oil does speed up metabolism so it can increase your heart rate,

which isn't a bad thing.

Could you describe your chest pains, i.e. where exactly is it located in your

chest, does it come and go, and how long have you had them? Also have you ever

had a diagnosis by the doctor you had heart troubles, and if so, when (in years

or months)?

Chest pains can be caused by stomach digestive issues, so that's why many people

end up in emergency thinking they are having a heart attack, but they don't. If

you are concerned get a diagnosis from your doctor so you don't have to worry

and wonder about it.

> Also another thing that I have noticed is that no matter how much I try to

adjust my Magnesium/ Calcium I keep getting lower leg pain, as soon as I consume

Magnesium. The same thing happens when I take the Sea salt. I am still taking

it, but just wish I knew how to stop the lower leg pain.

+++Is it pain, or do your muscles cramp, like a Charlie Horse, since the

difference is unmistakable. If it is pain it wouldn't be caused by an imbalance

of cal/mag or minerals, since it is caused by toxins. If you get muscle cramps,

which leg is it, left or right, or both?

+++Could you be having anything that is diuretic like caffeine, teas, lots of

green leafy vegetables, baking soda, green drinks, chlorophyll, etc.???

The best, Bee

February 24, 2011

Hi Carol,

I am a former massage therapist and this sounds to me like it might be a trigger

point in a muscle in your back. The definition of a trigger point is tight spot

in a muscle that will radiate pain to a different area of the body. Of course,

it's hard to say if that is causing this pain that you describe, but it might

worth a try to find a massage therapist who is knowledgeable about trigger

points in your area. Not all massage therapists know how to treat them, so it's

best to ask around.

Toxins are the cause of these trigger points, so Bee's diet alone will

eventually help, but having your trigger points treated might just relieve some

of your pain in the meantime.

Here is a link for you to take a look at some of the charted trigger point. I

haven't read that website and I don't endorse what they might say. I just

wanted to show you the charts. You have to scroll down the page a bit.

http://liveonearth.livejournal.com/805589.html

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> Sometimes I get my husband to rub our electric massage hand held unit over my

back when Im in severly intense pain, and I have noticed that when he goes over

a certain part just to the left of my spine towards the center between the two

shoulder blades that it feels like he's hitting something that sends like a

shock like feeling around the left side going towards under my left boob. Its

uncomfortable, but makes me wonder if this is all related. Do you know what I

mean?

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> Hugs to you Bee,

>

> Carol

>

February 25, 2011

>

> Hi Bee Thank's for the quick reply.

>

> I wouldnt mind trying the combination that you are doing with the thyroid

meds, however the Army only carrys Synthroid, which is ashame, because I think

that the Natural dissicated would probably be a great addition.

+++That's too bad you can get natural Carol.

Three years ago, my family rushed me to the hospital because I was having

severe chest pains, after numerous test, ekg's, echocardiograms, cardiac

catherization. The doctor diagnosed me with Myocarditis. He said that the left

ventricular of my heart was slightly enlarged, probably due to a virus. I had

just recently gotten over a severe case of Bronchitis. It had been so bad that I

was having to prop myself up at night in order to breathe properly.

> My heart rate used to run around 80, but since the night I was rushed to the

hospital, it has been running anywhere from 90 to 110 even when sitting and

relaxed. > My blood pressure stays low at like 90/50 or 100/70 , but I always

have a high heart rate.

> After going back and forth to the hospital a few times, he told me that

although the left ventricle looked better after sometime, that he thought that I

would always have abit of a heart problem, which I did not completely

understand. I was dealing with a German doctor, they lose patience very quickly

with their American patients because we ask questions, as to where the Germans

don't, they just take the advice of the doctor and go on. So I didnt get very

far with all of this. I had to report to our Army clinic with the report from

the hospital, and then they ran only blood test, and one EKG and told me that I

didnt have a heart problem. Which I do not believe, as I have such a high heart

rate from day to day. And if I over do things I get very weak very fast and

start breathing heavy like Im gasping for air.

> I'm 5 foot 6 inches in height and I weigh 150 lbs, so Im not like incredibly