Re: April still needs help with number of grams for Protein & Fat...

[Guest guest]

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I think I may have figured it out. I realize now after many attempts with

fitday and my own calculations, there are two options - to either have 60%

of fats and 20% protein *or* have 170g of fat with protein. These are two

different things because 170g of fat is not 60% to 68g protein. (Like you

said, 170g of fat is more like 80%).

It looks like a choice between doing the ratios or gram recommendations of

the optimal diet, but not both.

April

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:37 PM, kllaurvick <laurvick@...> wrote:

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> ***Hi April

>

> I went back and looked at your original post, which began:

>

> >>I'm increasing my fat intake so I can get to a good protein/fat ratio but

> I'm not sure if I've got the numbers right.

> Yesterday I had 8 tablespoons of fat, 4 oz of chicken, 4 oz of shrimp and 1

> egg drink (2 eggs) for protein. Fats came to 136g, protein was 76g and

> veggies came to only 35g of carb. Because of my height I should only have

> had 68g of protein (and aiming for 170 g of fat).<<

>

> If this is your question, then you want to follow the grams allowed (not

> being concerned with percentages) as per the ratios for you and me (5'6 " ):

>

> 68 grams of protein

> 170 to 238 grams of fats

> 54 grams of carbs

>

> But...I thought you were trying to figure out how much protein to have if

> you lowered your fat intake temporarily. You wrote:

>

> >If I reduce fats to slow down the detoxing, then I should have even less

> protein than that? With say 4 Tbsp of fat, would I be able to have something

> like 1 piece of chicken and 1 egg for the whole day? I think I'll be really

> hungry on only that amount of protein. I don't know if I'm figuring this out

> correctly.<

>

> I think that is where Bee's first response came in:

>

> >>+++20% protein to 60% fat is in calories, so you could enter only meats,

> eggs and fats into fitday.com and then scroll down and look at the calorie

> pie chart, which will indicate the percentages.<<

>

> Let's assume she did not mean 60% fat but higher, like 70-80%.

>

> I would enter as much fat as you plan on taking in a day then start

> entering your protein till the percentages (yes, no longer looking at grams)

> are in line w/what Bee is suggesting (20/80). Then, to keep you from being

> hungry, add in those veggies.

>

> I don't know that I can tell you to eat the full 10 cups of veggies, tho!

>

> Let's see what Bee says...

>

> , moderator

[Guest guest]

>

> ,

> I think I may have figured it out. I realize now after many attempts with

> fitday and my own calculations, there are two options - to either have 60%

> of fats and 20% protein *or* have 170g of fat with protein. These are two

> different things because 170g of fat is not 60% to 68g protein. (Like you

> said, 170g of fat is more like 80%).

>

> It looks like a choice between doing the ratios or gram recommendations of

> the optimal diet, but not both.

>

> April

*** Yes, that is correct. If you're able to consume the minimum amount of fat,

then you would use the gram measurement.

But if you need to drop fat back a bit, you'll want to use the percentages.

, moderator

[Guest guest]

>

> ,

> I think I may have figured it out. I realize now after many attempts with

> fitday and my own calculations, there are two options - to either have 60%

> of fats and 20% protein *or* have 170g of fat with protein. These are two

> different things because 170g of fat is not 60% to 68g protein. (Like you

> said, 170g of fat is more like 80%).

>

> It looks like a choice between doing the ratios or gram recommendations of

> the optimal diet, but not both.

+++Hi April,

Just do the grams, and not percentages by calorie count, since grams are more

accurate.

Bee